Comments on: Tightening a Belt with No Notches Left

By: Jack

Jack — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 03:23:07 +0000

“Libertarian are not “facists”. They just want people to accept responsibility for their behavior and often laziness and inaction. The “facists “are the people who want to take from the hard working, frugal and educated (people who want to learn-whether its through experience or some other education) and give it to the lazy whiners.
You should`nt have kids if you can`t afford to feed them. If you look at Japan-there is no welfare net and people generally only have children when they know they will be able to support them through to adulthood. The Japanese don`t pander to the whining neither should we.” ~ HarryA

“Libertarians are anarchists who want police protection from their slaves.” – KS Robinson.

The American LP party is a beast created by the fascist Koch brothers. Their agenda is forthright: kill the government beast, so that the more “efficient” corporate one can replace it, and with higher profits.

By: Harry A

Harry A — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:13:19 +0000

Libertarian are not “facists”. They just want people to accept responsibility for their behavior and often laziness and inaction. The “facists “are the people who want to take from the hard working, frugal and educated (people who want to learn-whether its through experience or some other education) and give it to the lazy whiners.
You should`nt have kids if you can`t afford to feed them. If you look at Japan-there is no welfare net and people generally only have children when they know they will be able to support them through to adulthood. The Japanese don`t pander to the whining neither should we.

By: Edwin Pell

Edwin Pell — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:19:06 +0000

A mass starvation is coming. I feel no obligation to go down with the ship. Close the U.S. borders. For the purpose of saving ourselves. If you feel you must give every penny you have to save people outside the U.S. go ahead. I will not be joining you (expect for my contributions to “Save the Children” directed to Egypt).

By: brs

brs — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:51:52 +0000

I would favor that freedom from regulation and honest competition if it were truly so. But the libertarians want regulations. The debate is only about the degree and kind. Will we eliminate all laws or just the ones that do not favor the corporations and rich? Laws against armed robbery will be maintained but not against corporate fraud and theft by deception? How about honest competition. Are some people allowed a huge leg up from Mummy and daddy while others have to work for what they get? I hear so called libertarians supporting a national sales or flat tax but not an inheritance tax. A person who believed in earning your own way would eliminate all income and sales taxes because they discourage productive activity. Inheritance taxes should be one hundred percent; the heirs have done nothing to earn their fortunes. Let the rich boyos and girlies make it on their own; I did it, they can too. But the libertarians are just another variety of the fascists in the republican party who want to favor an inherited wealthy class much like the one from Europe.

By: Giorgio

Giorgio — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:43:20 +0000

Well, Hue, good luck to you on your support elsewhere…but my gut feeling is that you will rue the day for not having done so.

As for Carol’s,
” there is a republican infrastructure behind ron paul and he does owe favors to the party…”
that may be so but he’s not likely to dance all the time to their tune if it’s against his principles. He’s the least likely to grovel at AIPAC’s feet or anybody elses as the likes of Clinton, Obama and McCain have done…if you’re looking for a saint to earn your support then you better sit around and wait for the ‘Second Coming of Jesus Christ’….

As for making “a poor person’s life worse under the guise of “freedom””
that’s a long debatable point. The ‘poor’ have been the horse the social engineers of this world have loved to ride claiming that they alone would reduce their plight. But history has shown otherwise. Perhaps by just giving them back some of their ‘freedom’ would by itself improve their lot.

By: Hue Longer

Hue Longer — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:49:29 +0000

Giorgio,
Of course I’ve looked at his views…it’s why I’d never support him

By: Giorgio

Giorgio — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:35:53 +0000

Hue,
Just as an afterthought, I would like to add that in a video interview it had been found that his campaign had received a $500 contribution from an extreme right-winger. He was asked, now that he knows the source of this contribution, whether he would return that money.
Paul’s answer was an emphatic NO. His reasons why were reasonable and coherent which I don’t go into now. But this is a clear example of attempts to smear this principled man with cheap shots at his character…..

By: carol

carol — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:32:08 +0000

party does matter… there is a republican infrastructure behind ron paul and he does owe favors to the party…

Take a good look at Ron Paul and you will see a lot of things that will actually make a poor person’s life worse under the guise of “freedom”. He has no real plan to put food in front of the people that this article is about.

By: Giorgio

Giorgio — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:56:14 +0000

Hue,
I bet my bottom $ that Ron Paul will NEVER endorse that snarling ’shitty pilot’! He is aware that he will not get the nomination, but as he says his Revolution, given the momentum and as long as people support him, is to go on well past the Nov 2008 elections and beyond…
Have you really had a good look at him, the man and his views, or is it just your socialist knee-jerk reaction to a label, the Republican label?

“Ron Paul may talk a lot about war, but every time I see anything from his supporters, it’s this bizarre (?) mix of immigrant bashing(?), constitution waving…”

Well don’t blame Ron Paul for what his supporters think or do…his supporters are a reflection of the general American mindset. If war mongering is part of their way of life and thinking, it’s likely that Paul’s stand on this issue will be less appealing than his stand on controlled immigration, where immigration ‘bashing’ is exactly right up their street.
Remember he has often stated that his campaign is also to educate and enlighten his supporters which is a very commendable aim of a true, genuine leader. So I wouldn’t be too worried about some of his worped minded supporters. They are geting in the process their ’socializing’ Education freely.

By: Hue Longer

Hue Longer — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:35:45 +0000

Giorgio,

My take on Paul was that he was a gatekeeper to the truly pissed of the Republicans. Watch for his upcoming endorsement of that shitty pilot

No man owns the truth, so when a lunatic starts speaking parts of it, it shouldn’t mean that we should accept the lunacy that goes with him. I would love to have the debate between libertarians and socialists, but unfortunately, the pigs in power are so bad that they make Ron Paul’s capitalism and xenophobic wave (he may not have technically created that wave, but he’s riding it) look sane in comparison.

To the rest of the Ron Paul Supporters…party loyalty to the end–so much so that immigration and tax cuts were put in front of you as things that were more important than perpetual war. Ron Paul may talk a lot about war, but every time I see anything from his supporters, it’s this bizarre mix of immigrant bashing, constitution waving and bleeding for the “self made” millionaire.

By: Brian Koontz

Brian Koontz — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 04:21:17 +0000

“The moral of the story is not to have kids unless you prepare for it (save money).”

Capitalism will be screwed if poor people stop having children.

By: Giorgio

Giorgio — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:56:37 +0000

* 20% of ‘useful’ rapacious gluttons of the world…

By: Giorgio

Giorgio — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:37:32 +0000

“Overpopulation. Time to close the borders.”
writes one,

“Thank you, NAFTA and uncontrolled immigration!”
writes another…

Now it’s the rabble, the uneducated Latinos and others that can’t even speak the master’s race Lingo and have invaded the US that are at fault !
They are the source of ALL of America’s present problems…

So here is my advice:
Join Ron Paul’s REVOLUTION!
It’s his agenda to control immigration into the States. He says instead of policing the borders of nations thousand of miles way, rather bring them home to control the US own borders!
And I fully agree with Ron Paul because I know he is an honourable Man and that he would do it with understanding and HUMANELY….

Then the “80% of the world’s “useless eaters”” would be able to have off their backs the other 20% of rapacious gluttons of the world, and get on unmolested with their own lives….

By: Edwin Pell

Edwin Pell — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:56:07 +0000

Corylus how do you figure I am racist. I favor ending all immigration regardless of skin color. For the benefits of all Americans regardless of skin color. Race has nothing to do with overpopulation. Overpopulation is caused by too many people (regardless of skin color).

By: Jack D

Jack D — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:39:30 +0000

I don’t usually enter a second reply, but do so with respect for
Ms. Colson’s timely article . My take on immigration issues, errors in
logic notwithstanding, are informed by my having “immigrated” to
CA, PA, NY, NJ, VA, and TN, from my base in OH ( dreadful place,sorry )
I have lived in the homes of several Spanish families. Most of my
immigrant friends (and girlfriends ) hail from throughout South and
Central America.Enough said about that.This country was built on immigration. When a wave becomes a tsunami, however, and, at least in
the Southwest, much of the tsunami appears to be antithetical ( Nation
of Aztlan ) towards the current non-Latino populace, it’s an issue.
But only incidental to this article, which is about food.
So now I’m going to say some things that are going to make some folks
angry. Excellent. Anger motivates , or at least it should.
Alot of people in America DESERVE to be hungry ( Gee, I hope I”M not
one of them!) Not that I concur with Kissinger infamously branding
80% of the world as “useless eaters”. Actually, the sooner Henry stops
eating, and breathing, the better for all of us.
It’s just that we sat on our fucking asses, for so many years, watching
OTHER people starve and die, on TV. TV! Not even in person. If we had
been there in person, our gut reaction would have been to help, right
now, somehow, someway. And unfortunately, for those kind souls who
do donate money or essentials, their largesse often winds up in the pockets of some miserable little fascist bureaucrat, ours or theirs.
Much of America’s tax dollars goes to accomplish genocide. Either
overtly, through outright illegal military invasion, or covertly, through
the satanic machinations of the C.I.A. , Americans have financed
the Apocalypse.
So now, perhaps, the chickens of a blase, mindless, flag-waing Americas’
ambitions have come home to roost. Maybe God just saves the white people for last. Whatever. But as I mentioned in my prior reply,
individuals, and nations, do not just walk away from their Karma. It must be met. Lived through. After all, America, you always said you
can run, but….

By: corylus

corylus — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:06:30 +0000

Closing borders? Saving money years in advance to buy food just because you have a kid or two? Andy and Edwin, misanthropes and racists. Go to hell, both of you!

By: anonymous

anonymous — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:34:38 +0000

The last sounds like an idea for the next TV game show. After all, we’ve already got ‘are you smarter than a 5th grader?’ Maybe it will be Univision that does ‘are you smarter than an American?’

Of course, the only way the Americans have a chance is if all the questions are trivia about American Idol contestants.

By: Hue Longer

Hue Longer — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:00:15 +0000

Jack,

“Some nationalities are
just better educated than others, typically. Indians and Asians are
assimilated into almost any small town today as easily as a metro area.
The generally less-educated Latinos ( certainly not all, of course)”

India does not border the US….the Indians going there do not represent the millions of others. You are making some logic errors in your assumptions. There are plenty of folks in the US from South and Central America who are better educated than the average US cit.

By: Jack D

Jack D — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:44:10 +0000

And even hungry people still desperately cling to the belief that a
Democratic Congress/President will somehow(magically) save them
(from themselves).A Democratic president signed NAFTA, not that it
matters. Any president will sign ANYTHING he/she is told to sign by
their Keepers. So, as the jobs flowed OUT of the country, the immigrants
flowed IN.It doen’t really matter if they’re legal or not, their impact on
a rapidly dwindling job supply sjould be obvious. Some nationalities are
just better educated than others, typically. Indians and Asians are
assimilated into almost any small town today as easily as a metro area.
The generally less-educated Latinos ( certainly not all, of course) must
congregate in metro areas mainly, where unscrupulous contractors will
pick them up from the throng that gathers daily at 7-Eleven, for cheap
day labor, and no benefits costs.The fading availability of jobs in the
Midwest precludes their participation in that market, unless folks who
can’t speak English want to do telemarketing.
So what’s this got to do with all the people dining at the Market St.Family
Rescue Mission tonight ? Alot. In the not-too-distant past, Americans
who were willing to hustle could find work. Climb the economic ladder.
Now, in more and more places in the U.S., these same Americans and
their children CAN”T FIND WORK. Thank you, NAFTA and uncontrolled
immigration! Do you self-righteously proclaim that the millions who
have lost their homes were either gluttonous consumers of uneeded
crap at Circuit City, or imprudent real estate speculators? No, actually
the bulk of them will ultimately prove to be folks who could not foresee
they would lose their job, and now they CAN”T FIND WORK.
Human nature, as a defense mechanism, shields itself from the harsh
realities that we witness crushing other human beings, here and around the world. Not all, but most of us ignore, even ridicule the plight
of the other, until, of course, we become they.Until we lose our job.
Until we can’t afford the essentials. Until we find ourselves surrounded
by people who may not speak English, but who can somehow find a job,
and can afford the essentials.
This grotesque and even deadly situation in America today is no accident.Years of carefull planning and political manipulation by our
Keepers has borne fruit for them.And yet the Zombie Nation sits
staring at their TV”s like it’s still 1953. The pod people religiously march
in lock-step to the lies of their barking dog Republocrat or Demopublican ( Manchurian) Candidate. And we paid for all this
present and future horror with our taxes.
In light of just this small bit of revelation of our mountainous ignorance,
and if Karma is a reality ( It is), should the surprise be so terrible if we
too, soon find ourselves munching on Spam, with moldy pastry
for dessert ?

By: Edwin Pell

Edwin Pell — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:03:06 +0000

Overpopulation. Time to close the borders.