Comments on: “Socialist” Republican Wins in Montana http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/socialist-republican-wins-in-montana/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:30:43 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Lloyd Rowsey http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/socialist-republican-wins-in-montana/#comment-21961 Lloyd Rowsey Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:41:12 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2142#comment-21961 Very nicely put, Chris. But she was, what, 14 years older? And a child of the late 19th century and Kolko's famous Conservative Triumph in America, not a fortunate grandchild. Very nicely put, Chris. But she was, what, 14 years older? And a child of the late 19th century and Kolko’s famous Conservative Triumph in America, not a fortunate grandchild.

]]> By: Chris Crass http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/socialist-republican-wins-in-montana/#comment-21956 Chris Crass Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:48:40 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2142#comment-21956 Not to mention Mencken being a racist sack of shit. I imagine that Emma would disapprove. Not to mention Mencken being a racist sack of shit. I imagine that Emma would disapprove.

]]> By: hp http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/socialist-republican-wins-in-montana/#comment-21949 hp Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:24:30 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2142#comment-21949 Well you can bet he'd have an answer to a charge of misogyny. Well you can bet he’d have an answer to a charge of misogyny.

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/socialist-republican-wins-in-montana/#comment-21930 Lloyd Rowsey Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:56:06 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2142#comment-21930 I recall a famous "what if they had met?" that social scientists posed to their students a few decades ago, naming Max Weber and Sigmund Freud. How much better and doubtless mittenze fireworks, if HL Mencken and Emma Goldman had met. I recall a famous “what if they had met?” that social scientists posed to their students a few decades ago, naming Max Weber and Sigmund Freud. How much better and doubtless mittenze fireworks, if HL Mencken and Emma Goldman had met.

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/socialist-republican-wins-in-montana/#comment-21926 Lloyd Rowsey Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:22:24 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2142#comment-21926 I recall a famous "what if they had met?" that social scientists posed to their students a few decades ago, naming Max Weber and Sigmund Freud. How much better, and doubtless mittenze fireworks, if HL Mencken and Emma Goldman had met. I recall a famous “what if they had met?” that social scientists posed to their students a few decades ago, naming Max Weber and Sigmund Freud. How much better, and doubtless mittenze fireworks, if HL Mencken and Emma Goldman had met.

]]> By: Giorgio http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/socialist-republican-wins-in-montana/#comment-21897 Giorgio Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:02:22 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2142#comment-21897 “Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good.” Mencken “If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal.” -Emma Goldman ....and a palliative for the voter feel that he is in control... I like this Kelleher ....what about a Paul/kelleher candidacy? Anything to rock the boat is good for me... “Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good.”
Mencken

“If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal.”
-Emma Goldman

….and a palliative for the voter feel that he is in control…

I like this Kelleher ….what about a Paul/kelleher candidacy?
Anything to rock the boat is good for me…

]]> By: Chris Crass http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/socialist-republican-wins-in-montana/#comment-21879 Chris Crass Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:36:02 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2142#comment-21879 "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." -Emma Goldman “If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal.”
-Emma Goldman

]]> By: hp http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/socialist-republican-wins-in-montana/#comment-21869 hp Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:58:19 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2142#comment-21869 "Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good." Mencken “Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good.”
Mencken

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/socialist-republican-wins-in-montana/#comment-21867 Don Hawkins Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:53:07 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2142#comment-21867 Men might as well project a voyage to the Moon as attempt to employ steam navigation against the stormy North Atlantic Ocean. - Dr. Dionysus Lardner (1793-1859 Well informed people know it is impossible to transmit the voice over wires and that were it possible to do so, the thing would be of no practical value. - Editorial in the Boston Post (1865) [Television] won't be able to hold on to any market it captures after the first six months. People will soon get tired of staring at a plywood box every night. - Darryl F. Zanuck, head of 20th Century-Fox, 1946. Rail travel at high speed is not possible because passengers, unable to breathe, would die of asphyxia. - Dr. Dionysus Lardner (1793-1859 The dangers are obvious. Stores of gasoline in the hands of people interested primarily in profit would constitute a fire and explosive hazard of the first rank. Horseless carriages propelled by gasoline might attain speeds of 14 or even 20 miles per hour. The menace to our people of vehicles of this type hurtling through our streets and along our roads and poisoning the atmosphere would call for prompt legislative action even if the military and economic implications were not so overwhelming... [T]he cost of producing [gasoline] is far beyond the financial capacity of private industry... In addition the development of this new power may displace the use of horses, which would wreck our agriculture. - U. S. Congressional Record, 1875. There is not the slightest indication that [nuclear energy] will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will. - Albert Einstein, 1932. There is not in sight any source of energy that would be a fair start toward that which would be necessary to get us beyond the gravitative control of the earth. - Forest Ray Moulton (1872-1952), Computers in the future may...perhaps only weigh 1.5 tons. - Popular Mechanics, 1949. It is difficult to say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow. - Robert Goddard (1882-1945) "If God had intended that man should fly, he would have given him wings". George melville "Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You're crazy Drillers This morning on one of the financial channels there was talk of energy and oil. One man said that clean energy will never work. So I sent them this Men might as well project a voyage to the Moon as attempt to employ steam navigation against the stormy North Atlantic Ocean.
- Dr. Dionysus Lardner (1793-1859
Well informed people know it is impossible to transmit the voice over wires and that were it possible to do so, the thing would be of no practical value.
- Editorial in the Boston Post (1865)
[Television] won’t be able to hold on to any market it captures after the first six months. People will soon get tired of staring at a plywood box every night.
- Darryl F. Zanuck, head of 20th Century-Fox, 1946.
Rail travel at high speed is not possible because passengers, unable to breathe, would die of asphyxia.
- Dr. Dionysus Lardner (1793-1859
The dangers are obvious. Stores of gasoline in the hands of people interested primarily in profit would constitute a fire and explosive hazard of the first rank. Horseless carriages propelled by gasoline might attain speeds of 14 or even 20 miles per hour. The menace to our people of vehicles of this type hurtling through our streets and along our roads and poisoning the atmosphere would call for prompt legislative action even if the military and economic implications were not so overwhelming… [T]he cost of producing [gasoline] is far beyond the financial capacity of private industry… In addition the development of this new power may displace the use of horses, which would wreck our agriculture.

- U. S. Congressional Record, 1875.
There is not the slightest indication that [nuclear energy] will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will.
- Albert Einstein, 1932.
There is not in sight any source of energy that would be a fair start toward that which would be necessary to get us beyond the gravitative control of the earth.
- Forest Ray Moulton (1872-1952),
Computers in the future may…perhaps only weigh 1.5 tons.
- Popular Mechanics, 1949.
It is difficult to say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow.
- Robert Goddard (1882-1945)
“If God had intended that man should fly, he would have given him wings”.
George melville
“Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You’re crazy
Drillers
This morning on one of the financial channels there was talk of energy and oil. One man said that clean energy will never work. So I sent them this

]]> By: Hatuxka http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/socialist-republican-wins-in-montana/#comment-21866 Hatuxka Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:19:52 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2142#comment-21866 In Montana for the primary, you get both R and D ballots. I left the bubble next to Baucus blank. He is awful. I noticed the name Kelleher on the R ballot, but had never heard of him and knew nothing about him. Now I wish I had voted the R ballot to say I voted for the Montana socialist. In Montana for the primary, you get both R and D ballots. I left the bubble next to Baucus blank. He is awful. I noticed the name Kelleher on the R ballot, but had never heard of him and knew nothing about him. Now I wish I had voted the R ballot to say I voted for the Montana socialist.

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/socialist-republican-wins-in-montana/#comment-21862 Lloyd Rowsey Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:05:31 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2142#comment-21862 Well, here we go again. I get picky about definitions, someone lambasts me for being educated. I go along with others' definitions, someone lambasts me (unknowingly) for the very reason I'd decided not to get picky. But honestly. "Socialism"? Where, pray tell, on the face of the earth has there ever been a socialist government? Or has capitalism in some nation -- or internationally -- at some time actually been so helpless that a "socialist" majority controlled a parliament? I ask this seriously, and I would not be insulted -- only informed -- to learn there has been a bare socialist majority somewhere, probably during wartime. Well, here we go again. I get picky about definitions, someone lambasts me for being educated. I go along with others’ definitions, someone lambasts me (unknowingly) for the very reason I’d decided not to get picky.

But honestly. “Socialism”? Where, pray tell, on the face of the earth has there ever been a socialist government? Or has capitalism in some nation — or internationally — at some time actually been so helpless that a “socialist” majority controlled a parliament? I ask this seriously, and I would not be insulted — only informed — to learn there has been a bare socialist majority somewhere, probably during wartime.

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