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		<title>By: Tennessee-Socialist</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22474</link>
		<dc:creator>Tennessee-Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lloyd: I agree with you.  I mean we have to be logical, how can Ralph Nader with a political campaign in his shoulders have even a minute of his time to log on to the internet and reply all the posts.   Ralph Nader is just like Obama, and Mccain in that they are in a political campaign, a very tasking thing.  So we have use our common sense and understand why Ralph Nader doesn&#039;t reply to comments in this website</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lloyd: I agree with you.  I mean we have to be logical, how can Ralph Nader with a political campaign in his shoulders have even a minute of his time to log on to the internet and reply all the posts.   Ralph Nader is just like Obama, and Mccain in that they are in a political campaign, a very tasking thing.  So we have use our common sense and understand why Ralph Nader doesn&#8217;t reply to comments in this website</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22466</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7463288.stm

Oil company Royal Dutch Shell says it has temporarily stopped production at its main offshore oilfield in Nigeria, following a militant attack. 

The raid took place overnight on the Bonga oil platform about 120km (75 miles) off the coast of the Niger Delta, the company said.  It is the first attack on the oilfield, which normally produces about 200,000 barrels a day. Attacks in the inshore Niger Delta have helped drive up the world oil prices.  Nigeria&#039;s valuable offshore oilfields had always been considered difficult for most militants to attack, the BBC&#039;s Alex Last reports from Lagos.</description>
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<p>Oil company Royal Dutch Shell says it has temporarily stopped production at its main offshore oilfield in Nigeria, following a militant attack. </p>
<p>The raid took place overnight on the Bonga oil platform about 120km (75 miles) off the coast of the Niger Delta, the company said.  It is the first attack on the oilfield, which normally produces about 200,000 barrels a day. Attacks in the inshore Niger Delta have helped drive up the world oil prices.  Nigeria&#8217;s valuable offshore oilfields had always been considered difficult for most militants to attack, the BBC&#8217;s Alex Last reports from Lagos.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22464</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is we&#039;ll see 100 bucks/tank of gas before November, Tennessee.  But you can never tell, gas may stay about 140/barrell, or may even be down on election day.  Presumably, those latter alternatives would cause a more drastic bulge elsewhere in the system, and the word &quot;system&quot; can&#039;t be forgot.  &quot;The system IS working.&quot;

In any case, it&#039;s a breath of fresh air to read extensive quotations in Dissident Voice from socialists and even frrom leftys further to the left.   MAYBE the mix of comments will draw Nader out, but for you posters who are not regular DV readers: Ralph Nader does not comment on his articles and the posts to them put up at Dissident Voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is we&#8217;ll see 100 bucks/tank of gas before November, Tennessee.  But you can never tell, gas may stay about 140/barrell, or may even be down on election day.  Presumably, those latter alternatives would cause a more drastic bulge elsewhere in the system, and the word &#8220;system&#8221; can&#8217;t be forgot.  &#8220;The system IS working.&#8221;</p>
<p>In any case, it&#8217;s a breath of fresh air to read extensive quotations in Dissident Voice from socialists and even frrom leftys further to the left.   MAYBE the mix of comments will draw Nader out, but for you posters who are not regular DV readers: Ralph Nader does not comment on his articles and the posts to them put up at Dissident Voice.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22463</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deadbeat.  I agree about enviornmentalist being racist, IF you&#039;re speaking about the movement in the United States.  In Cuba, you know, there&#039;s been an extensive move toward environmentalism in agriculture --  referred to by most of the &quot;responsible&quot; left in America as &quot;authoritarian&quot; and &quot;a failure&quot; -- over the last decade.  And as Castro said in his new spoken autobiography, &quot;For us revolutionaries, fighting racial discrimination has been a sacred principle.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deadbeat.  I agree about enviornmentalist being racist, IF you&#8217;re speaking about the movement in the United States.  In Cuba, you know, there&#8217;s been an extensive move toward environmentalism in agriculture &#8212;  referred to by most of the &#8220;responsible&#8221; left in America as &#8220;authoritarian&#8221; and &#8220;a failure&#8221; &#8212; over the last decade.  And as Castro said in his new spoken autobiography, &#8220;For us revolutionaries, fighting racial discrimination has been a sacred principle.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Carson</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22459</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corporate capitalists often do support the regulatory state.   The coalition behind FDR&#039;s economic agenda, as Thomas Ferguson and G. William Domhoff have both argued, centered on capital-intensive, export-oriented industry.   Since labor costs were a relatively small part of their total cost package, but their long planning horizons required internal stability, they were more than willing to trade higher wages and benefits in return for the help of union bureaucrats in enforcing contracts and maintaining labor discipline.  FDR&#039;s economic policy team was overrun by corporate lawyers, investment bankers and CEOs (just Google &quot;Gerard Swope&quot; or &quot;Business Advisory Council&quot;).

Friedrich Engels pointed out over a century ago that the Junker/Fabian model of &quot;socialism&quot; involves nationalizes infrastructures and resources (coal, oil, railroads, etc.) of central importance to the corporate economy, so that the state (as ExCom of the ruling class) can administer them in the joint interests of big business.  Probably not by coincidence, those have been the very types of industries targeted by antitrust action in the U.S. (e.g., Standard Oil and AT&amp;T).  

Gabriel Kolko argued that the Progressive regulatory state was created largely under pressure from big business, and was aimed at cartelizing the economy and making stable oligopoly markets possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corporate capitalists often do support the regulatory state.   The coalition behind FDR&#8217;s economic agenda, as Thomas Ferguson and G. William Domhoff have both argued, centered on capital-intensive, export-oriented industry.   Since labor costs were a relatively small part of their total cost package, but their long planning horizons required internal stability, they were more than willing to trade higher wages and benefits in return for the help of union bureaucrats in enforcing contracts and maintaining labor discipline.  FDR&#8217;s economic policy team was overrun by corporate lawyers, investment bankers and CEOs (just Google &#8220;Gerard Swope&#8221; or &#8220;Business Advisory Council&#8221;).</p>
<p>Friedrich Engels pointed out over a century ago that the Junker/Fabian model of &#8220;socialism&#8221; involves nationalizes infrastructures and resources (coal, oil, railroads, etc.) of central importance to the corporate economy, so that the state (as ExCom of the ruling class) can administer them in the joint interests of big business.  Probably not by coincidence, those have been the very types of industries targeted by antitrust action in the U.S. (e.g., Standard Oil and AT&amp;T).  </p>
<p>Gabriel Kolko argued that the Progressive regulatory state was created largely under pressure from big business, and was aimed at cartelizing the economy and making stable oligopoly markets possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Tennessee-Socialist</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22449</link>
		<dc:creator>Tennessee-Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>synicab12: You are right on the MONEY !! The crisis is a capitalist crisis, not an oil crisis.  AMericans need to read the paper by Lenin about the last stage of capitalism &#039;Imperialism&#039;.  And this is so true, we are living in turmoil times, meanwhile most people go about their personal little lives, but just wait for the gasolin prices to get to about 10 dollars per gallon.  I dont know what american citizens will do when they will have to get 100 dollars to fill up their tanks, in a country where wages are down like this one, and where unemployment and small businesses are collapsing.  My sister and her husband just opened a small Computer store, and they are really doing bad, real bad.  Small businesses in this country are being eaten up by the big fish.  Even good old K-Mart got shoved by Wal Mart, like comrade Bob Avakian said in one of his talks in http://www.bobavakian.com  Man the situation that the american middle and lower classes are facing is real bad, like a third world country, but again just wait for that Milk to get to 12 dollars a gallon and gas about 10.  The question raised by many americans will be: &quot;Now what do we do?&quot;  


&quot;So now you&#039;re a dragon killer, that&#039;s not even original.  It was in a wheat field just south of Coffeyville, Kansas,  it was late November, it&#039;s a month of mist and we were caught in the open.  The sun was setting behind us, there was nowhere to run, twice it came in on us and twice it missed the heart of us, and that&#039;s when I had an epiphany.  You see, they have great vision in the day and they have even better vision at night.  But in the failing light they can&#039;t focus; magic hour.  Coffeyville: it&#039;s etched in American history because the outlaw Dalton boys were killed there, ordinary townsfolk rose up and took &#039;em down.  So maybe you&#039;re the Dalton boys.  No, no, we&#039;re the townsfolk.&quot;  -Reign of Fire</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>synicab12: You are right on the MONEY !! The crisis is a capitalist crisis, not an oil crisis.  AMericans need to read the paper by Lenin about the last stage of capitalism &#8216;Imperialism&#8217;.  And this is so true, we are living in turmoil times, meanwhile most people go about their personal little lives, but just wait for the gasolin prices to get to about 10 dollars per gallon.  I dont know what american citizens will do when they will have to get 100 dollars to fill up their tanks, in a country where wages are down like this one, and where unemployment and small businesses are collapsing.  My sister and her husband just opened a small Computer store, and they are really doing bad, real bad.  Small businesses in this country are being eaten up by the big fish.  Even good old K-Mart got shoved by Wal Mart, like comrade Bob Avakian said in one of his talks in <a href="http://www.bobavakian.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bobavakian.com</a>  Man the situation that the american middle and lower classes are facing is real bad, like a third world country, but again just wait for that Milk to get to 12 dollars a gallon and gas about 10.  The question raised by many americans will be: &#8220;Now what do we do?&#8221;  </p>
<p>&#8220;So now you&#8217;re a dragon killer, that&#8217;s not even original.  It was in a wheat field just south of Coffeyville, Kansas,  it was late November, it&#8217;s a month of mist and we were caught in the open.  The sun was setting behind us, there was nowhere to run, twice it came in on us and twice it missed the heart of us, and that&#8217;s when I had an epiphany.  You see, they have great vision in the day and they have even better vision at night.  But in the failing light they can&#8217;t focus; magic hour.  Coffeyville: it&#8217;s etched in American history because the outlaw Dalton boys were killed there, ordinary townsfolk rose up and took &#8216;em down.  So maybe you&#8217;re the Dalton boys.  No, no, we&#8217;re the townsfolk.&#8221;  -Reign of Fire</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22444</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph is correct and I agree with him.  Ralph has been a leader on the call for renewables for over 30 years.  It is also ironic too to listen to a speech by Jimmy Carter on this subject in 1978 that you can find on You Tube.

There is also a good article on CounterPunch on the topic of the current rise in oil prices

&lt;a&gt;Parvez Ahmed&lt;/a&gt;

IMO the &quot;Peak Oil&quot; claim is dubious.  There is clearly a problem with the United States consuming 30% of the world&#039;s oil and then go and blame it on China and India.  Also the problem with &quot;environmentalism&quot; is that it is tacitly racist.  There is a tendency among &quot;environmentalist &quot; to blame &quot;overpopulation&quot; and ignore U.S. consumption.

What is true is that much of U.S. consumption of oil is due to the overextension of U.S. Militarism.  I find many of the &quot;environmentalist&quot; dubious when they seem to blame the poor, the brown, and the weak and ignore how spending on the military and on wars causes environmental havoc.

Again, by challenging Zionism, and you&#039;ll be challenging the WAR machine and you not only save lives but the environment as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph is correct and I agree with him.  Ralph has been a leader on the call for renewables for over 30 years.  It is also ironic too to listen to a speech by Jimmy Carter on this subject in 1978 that you can find on You Tube.</p>
<p>There is also a good article on CounterPunch on the topic of the current rise in oil prices</p>
<p><a>Parvez Ahmed</a></p>
<p>IMO the &#8220;Peak Oil&#8221; claim is dubious.  There is clearly a problem with the United States consuming 30% of the world&#8217;s oil and then go and blame it on China and India.  Also the problem with &#8220;environmentalism&#8221; is that it is tacitly racist.  There is a tendency among &#8220;environmentalist &#8221; to blame &#8220;overpopulation&#8221; and ignore U.S. consumption.</p>
<p>What is true is that much of U.S. consumption of oil is due to the overextension of U.S. Militarism.  I find many of the &#8220;environmentalist&#8221; dubious when they seem to blame the poor, the brown, and the weak and ignore how spending on the military and on wars causes environmental havoc.</p>
<p>Again, by challenging Zionism, and you&#8217;ll be challenging the WAR machine and you not only save lives but the environment as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogwood</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22442</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to Ralph, as always, for his on-the-money assessments.

Far and away, the person we should ALL be supporting - and for whom we should all be out there working;  get him on the ballots, into the debates, and then, finally, a president of, by and for the people.

Due to all in our lives that is corporatized and corrupted - this should be our primary focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to Ralph, as always, for his on-the-money assessments.</p>
<p>Far and away, the person we should ALL be supporting &#8211; and for whom we should all be out there working;  get him on the ballots, into the debates, and then, finally, a president of, by and for the people.</p>
<p>Due to all in our lives that is corporatized and corrupted &#8211; this should be our primary focus.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22439</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah.  Wherever you come out on &quot;climate change&quot; -- the new secular religion I hear is &quot;environmentalism&quot;, not climate change for which there is a lack of scientific evidence (and scientific supporters) -- OIL is pretty indisputably a major problem.   Politically.  Whereas Freeman Dyson in the latest NYR says that ALTHOUGH environmentlism can be agreed upon by scientists and non-scientists alike, even us folks concerned with nuclear weapons and world peace DESERVE A HEARING.  

Now.  Is everyone -- Naderites and non-Naderites? -- cheered up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.  Wherever you come out on &#8220;climate change&#8221; &#8212; the new secular religion I hear is &#8220;environmentalism&#8221;, not climate change for which there is a lack of scientific evidence (and scientific supporters) &#8212; OIL is pretty indisputably a major problem.   Politically.  Whereas Freeman Dyson in the latest NYR says that ALTHOUGH environmentlism can be agreed upon by scientists and non-scientists alike, even us folks concerned with nuclear weapons and world peace DESERVE A HEARING.  </p>
<p>Now.  Is everyone &#8212; Naderites and non-Naderites? &#8212; cheered up?</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22433</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long range energy problem facing us have you lost your mind completely.  Plato talked of reality in many of his writings and as we all know reality is not high on the list these day&#039;s but moving up fast.  Let&#039;s pick a number 8 years to get some of the biggest projects we have ever done well on there way.  These floods in the Midwest well in 1993 big floods and talk of fixing the levees and as we see just talk.  Much more important things to do like make money for the short term.  We are all in big trouble and I have to go now as wheel of fortune is on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long range energy problem facing us have you lost your mind completely.  Plato talked of reality in many of his writings and as we all know reality is not high on the list these day&#8217;s but moving up fast.  Let&#8217;s pick a number 8 years to get some of the biggest projects we have ever done well on there way.  These floods in the Midwest well in 1993 big floods and talk of fixing the levees and as we see just talk.  Much more important things to do like make money for the short term.  We are all in big trouble and I have to go now as wheel of fortune is on.</p>
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		<title>By: synicab12</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22431</link>
		<dc:creator>synicab12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Michael Dawson,

What  Nader is saying is that the CURRENT crisis in oil is the result
of speculations and gaming the system so the immediate solution should address this angel.
He is not saying there is no long range energy problem facing us and he
is not saying do not plan for solutions to it. His immediate attention
is on the current artificial crisis .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Michael Dawson,</p>
<p>What  Nader is saying is that the CURRENT crisis in oil is the result<br />
of speculations and gaming the system so the immediate solution should address this angel.<br />
He is not saying there is no long range energy problem facing us and he<br />
is not saying do not plan for solutions to it. His immediate attention<br />
is on the current artificial crisis .</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22429</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Along the lines of hp&#039;s post.

Doesn&#039;t it bother you fellow posters, in the least, that El Politico Nader doesn&#039;t stoop to reply to comments at Dissident Voice?  That you&#039;re just writing words on a wall? 

Well, concerning long- and short-range political goals, for those of you who subscribe to Monthly Review and receive a hardcopy in the mail, there is presently a wonderful article you can read:  Remembering Andre Gunder Frank While Thinking About the Future, by Immanuel Wallerstein.

Personally, I don&#039;t understand why the current issue of MR is not available online, and needless to add, there is no public posting at their websites.   

Maybe Ralpho or a spokesperson for him would like to comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Along the lines of hp&#8217;s post.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t it bother you fellow posters, in the least, that El Politico Nader doesn&#8217;t stoop to reply to comments at Dissident Voice?  That you&#8217;re just writing words on a wall? </p>
<p>Well, concerning long- and short-range political goals, for those of you who subscribe to Monthly Review and receive a hardcopy in the mail, there is presently a wonderful article you can read:  Remembering Andre Gunder Frank While Thinking About the Future, by Immanuel Wallerstein.</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t understand why the current issue of MR is not available online, and needless to add, there is no public posting at their websites.   </p>
<p>Maybe Ralpho or a spokesperson for him would like to comment?</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22421</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of the moon, ever hear of helium-3?

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/helium3_000630.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the moon, ever hear of helium-3?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/helium3_000630.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/helium3_000630.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dawson</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22415</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, Don Hawkins.

The deeper question is &quot;Why is Ralph Nader focusing on oil speculation rather than Peak Oil?&quot;

We are up against the wall on energy, and Nader is being massively unhelpful with his petty talk about cutting oil prices.

We need real leadership, not short-sighted demagoguery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Don Hawkins.</p>
<p>The deeper question is &#8220;Why is Ralph Nader focusing on oil speculation rather than Peak Oil?&#8221;</p>
<p>We are up against the wall on energy, and Nader is being massively unhelpful with his petty talk about cutting oil prices.</p>
<p>We need real leadership, not short-sighted demagoguery.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22408</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we&#039;v been ruled  by patricians  for at  least  10td yrs.  american patricians  have been ruling US  for just  2 cent&#039;s.
once one experiences  being  more noble, powerful, respected, or even adored/idolized, one  never gives  that up.
revolution or any kind  of  resistance  will  not, i conclude, change feelings/mind  of  a member of  the ruling class.
who wd  give up  pleasant feelings ab self?  i wouldn&#039;t.  when i feel  good, which is  not often,  i&#039;m the richest man  in the world.
one bed, wife, pair of shoes, pants, shirt,  and 3 meals will do.
on the other hand, evolution/education may  change  minds of the plutocrats.
maybe, nature  might change its mind and render us all  equal? 
who knows?  or, there   may  be  god(s)?  thank u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we&#8217;v been ruled  by patricians  for at  least  10td yrs.  american patricians  have been ruling US  for just  2 cent&#8217;s.<br />
once one experiences  being  more noble, powerful, respected, or even adored/idolized, one  never gives  that up.<br />
revolution or any kind  of  resistance  will  not, i conclude, change feelings/mind  of  a member of  the ruling class.<br />
who wd  give up  pleasant feelings ab self?  i wouldn&#8217;t.  when i feel  good, which is  not often,  i&#8217;m the richest man  in the world.<br />
one bed, wife, pair of shoes, pants, shirt,  and 3 meals will do.<br />
on the other hand, evolution/education may  change  minds of the plutocrats.<br />
maybe, nature  might change its mind and render us all  equal?<br />
who knows?  or, there   may  be  god(s)?  thank u</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/plutocracy-inc/#comment-22405</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are like people looking for something they have in their hands all the time; we’re looking in all directions except at the thing we want, which is probably why we haven’t found it.(Plato, 380BC
 
   Now many will say but look how far we have come.  Yes in some things.  The way forward if it is short term thinking because it is easy will not work out well.  People looking for something they have in their hands all the time.  I have watched the Senate in action the last few months and sorry they are people but are looking for nothing.  The way forward will not be easy and we need to stop hiding from reality and get started.  Again the working together is the hard part but we don&#039;t know if it will work unless we try.  In just five years life is not going to be easy to late but still time to slow this down.  For me to watch people talk about the future and say in five years or ten years and do that with the same thinking that has got us to this point is far beyond nuts.  Last night on CNN the head man from Chevron was on and his bottom line was we need more supply.  Sorry we need to start thinking in real terms and make hard choices.  The changes are coming one way or the other so stuck on stupid or see what we have in our hands all the time and try.  By 2030 the World will need 45% more energy and the moon is made of green cheese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are like people looking for something they have in their hands all the time; we’re looking in all directions except at the thing we want, which is probably why we haven’t found it.(Plato, 380BC</p>
<p>   Now many will say but look how far we have come.  Yes in some things.  The way forward if it is short term thinking because it is easy will not work out well.  People looking for something they have in their hands all the time.  I have watched the Senate in action the last few months and sorry they are people but are looking for nothing.  The way forward will not be easy and we need to stop hiding from reality and get started.  Again the working together is the hard part but we don&#8217;t know if it will work unless we try.  In just five years life is not going to be easy to late but still time to slow this down.  For me to watch people talk about the future and say in five years or ten years and do that with the same thinking that has got us to this point is far beyond nuts.  Last night on CNN the head man from Chevron was on and his bottom line was we need more supply.  Sorry we need to start thinking in real terms and make hard choices.  The changes are coming one way or the other so stuck on stupid or see what we have in our hands all the time and try.  By 2030 the World will need 45% more energy and the moon is made of green cheese.</p>
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