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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23373</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not personal bozhidar. I like you and your thoughts. 
Just a small attention getter.
Come to think of it, fairness and justice ARE radical thoughts.
Always have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not personal bozhidar. I like you and your thoughts.<br />
Just a small attention getter.<br />
Come to think of it, fairness and justice ARE radical thoughts.<br />
Always have been.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23365</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hp&#039;
 i&#039;m glad u spotted  the word  &quot;radical&quot;   in my statement ab. radical voices for justice/fairness,
i see now  word  &quot;radical&quot;  is  a redundancy
thanx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hp&#8217;<br />
 i&#8217;m glad u spotted  the word  &#8220;radical&#8221;   in my statement ab. radical voices for justice/fairness,<br />
i see now  word  &#8220;radical&#8221;  is  a redundancy<br />
thanx</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23346</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shabnam wrote:

Quote: I know it is too much to ask but wouldn’t you at least try it first before rejecting it. If obama and Ron Paul could collect millions of dollars through the internet why not us do the same and mobilize people around the message ‘make peace not war’.  End Quote

Well, I wish you well with this but realistically I don&#039;t see it going anywhere. The reason I rejected it is because people have been calling for this type of thing and things like it since 2000, and look where we are.  For example, there have been---at last count---three &quot;National Strikes&quot; called in this nation. They were all failures. Most people went to work.  No one shut down anything. Most people couldn&#039;t be bothered or didn&#039;t know about the National Strikes and even if they did know about them, they apparently went to work.  So, my point is that the idea of 3 National Strikes so far has gone nowhere.

The reason Obama and Paul were able to collect millions through the Internet is because they are &quot;celebrity&quot; politicians in congress with a D or R behind their name.

You wrote...
Quote: The current situation can not be tolerated anymore.  End Quote.

Well, unfortunately it will continue.

Since 2000, I&#039;ve been advocating that millions and millions need/must take to the streets in every city and town across this nation and especially in the District of Columbia when these international war criminals and their enablers are there (White House and Capitol Hill).  It ain&#039;t happened and it&#039;s not about to happen, unfortunately.  Many/most people could care less.  In fact, when I took part in protesting the 2000 stolen &quot;election,&quot; I was told to &quot;get over it&quot; by other people in this nation.  2004 came and no one protested that stolen &quot;election.&quot; In fact, John Kerry couldn&#039;t get to the microphone fast enough to concede to George Bush after Edwards had said that every vote would be counted.
Yeah.

And no, at this point, I don&#039;t have any suggestions other than to leave the country.  That&#039;s about it.  Lately, I&#039;ve been hearing more and more people say that&#039;s exactly what they are planning to do.  Some have already left.

Pretty soon, México will be putting up fences to keep the undocumented people from the States out of their country.  Turn about is fair play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shabnam wrote:</p>
<p>Quote: I know it is too much to ask but wouldn’t you at least try it first before rejecting it. If obama and Ron Paul could collect millions of dollars through the internet why not us do the same and mobilize people around the message ‘make peace not war’.  End Quote</p>
<p>Well, I wish you well with this but realistically I don&#8217;t see it going anywhere. The reason I rejected it is because people have been calling for this type of thing and things like it since 2000, and look where we are.  For example, there have been&#8212;at last count&#8212;three &#8220;National Strikes&#8221; called in this nation. They were all failures. Most people went to work.  No one shut down anything. Most people couldn&#8217;t be bothered or didn&#8217;t know about the National Strikes and even if they did know about them, they apparently went to work.  So, my point is that the idea of 3 National Strikes so far has gone nowhere.</p>
<p>The reason Obama and Paul were able to collect millions through the Internet is because they are &#8220;celebrity&#8221; politicians in congress with a D or R behind their name.</p>
<p>You wrote&#8230;<br />
Quote: The current situation can not be tolerated anymore.  End Quote.</p>
<p>Well, unfortunately it will continue.</p>
<p>Since 2000, I&#8217;ve been advocating that millions and millions need/must take to the streets in every city and town across this nation and especially in the District of Columbia when these international war criminals and their enablers are there (White House and Capitol Hill).  It ain&#8217;t happened and it&#8217;s not about to happen, unfortunately.  Many/most people could care less.  In fact, when I took part in protesting the 2000 stolen &#8220;election,&#8221; I was told to &#8220;get over it&#8221; by other people in this nation.  2004 came and no one protested that stolen &#8220;election.&#8221; In fact, John Kerry couldn&#8217;t get to the microphone fast enough to concede to George Bush after Edwards had said that every vote would be counted.<br />
Yeah.</p>
<p>And no, at this point, I don&#8217;t have any suggestions other than to leave the country.  That&#8217;s about it.  Lately, I&#8217;ve been hearing more and more people say that&#8217;s exactly what they are planning to do.  Some have already left.</p>
<p>Pretty soon, México will be putting up fences to keep the undocumented people from the States out of their country.  Turn about is fair play.</p>
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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23340</link>
		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam:

Thank you for your attention.  I am so concerned about what Bush and associates might do next that urge me to find ways that might raise awareness and build unity among American people. Majority of the people in the Middle East and Asia are against the war.  If you go to other sites that are dominated by Arabs you will see majorities of the Arab population are supporting Iran and are opposed to any aggression against Iran.  This is quite significant knowing that Arabs and Persians did not have a good relationship due to propaganda of the establishment of both cultures.  Now the situation is quite different.  Thanks to George Bush and the neocons  
Your questions are fair and deserve to be answered.  When I wrote this suggestion I was hoping everyone does her/his share to pass this message to someone else and hopefully in a few days millions of people will get this message and follow it through and thus we will have millions of people going to work and walking in the streets of North American cities with Green T-shirts on the designated days which might carry “Make peace not war” message.  I chose Green because it is sign of ‘fertility and life’ in Iranian culture.   You write:
“These war criminals must expect to be overthrown by “our” unified actions should they deny our demands? Really? Who is this “our” that you’re referring to? Who exactly is supposedly going to overthrow these war criminals?”
I am referring to American people and other population of North America as “our” to overthrow  the veil of ignorance responsible for survival of the war criminals through protest.
I know it is too much to ask but wouldn’t you at least try it first before rejecting it.  If  obama and Ron Paul could collect millions of dollars through the internet why not us do the same and mobilize people around the message ‘make peace not war’.  I hope Americans have the courage to do this much.  Anti War movement should get involve  as well.  Do you have other suggestions?  People of the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa are paying a heavy price for American peoples’ ignorance, inactivity and obedience.  The current situation can not be tolerated anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam:</p>
<p>Thank you for your attention.  I am so concerned about what Bush and associates might do next that urge me to find ways that might raise awareness and build unity among American people. Majority of the people in the Middle East and Asia are against the war.  If you go to other sites that are dominated by Arabs you will see majorities of the Arab population are supporting Iran and are opposed to any aggression against Iran.  This is quite significant knowing that Arabs and Persians did not have a good relationship due to propaganda of the establishment of both cultures.  Now the situation is quite different.  Thanks to George Bush and the neocons<br />
Your questions are fair and deserve to be answered.  When I wrote this suggestion I was hoping everyone does her/his share to pass this message to someone else and hopefully in a few days millions of people will get this message and follow it through and thus we will have millions of people going to work and walking in the streets of North American cities with Green T-shirts on the designated days which might carry “Make peace not war” message.  I chose Green because it is sign of ‘fertility and life’ in Iranian culture.   You write:<br />
“These war criminals must expect to be overthrown by “our” unified actions should they deny our demands? Really? Who is this “our” that you’re referring to? Who exactly is supposedly going to overthrow these war criminals?”<br />
I am referring to American people and other population of North America as “our” to overthrow  the veil of ignorance responsible for survival of the war criminals through protest.<br />
I know it is too much to ask but wouldn’t you at least try it first before rejecting it.  If  obama and Ron Paul could collect millions of dollars through the internet why not us do the same and mobilize people around the message ‘make peace not war’.  I hope Americans have the courage to do this much.  Anti War movement should get involve  as well.  Do you have other suggestions?  People of the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa are paying a heavy price for American peoples’ ignorance, inactivity and obedience.  The current situation can not be tolerated anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23337</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kosovo did it for me.</description>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23327</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dan e wrote:

Quote: I myself have stopped Coalitioning, socializing, participating in events featuring Democrats, including those who claim to be “progressive” (of America or anywhere else;)  End Quote

Me too.  I stopped after the Judicial Coup of 2000.  And on some issues (immigration comes to mind) some so-called &quot;progressives&quot; sound no differently than the rabid haters who spew the Michael Savage/Limbaugh hate.  Many people---including some so-called &quot;progressives&quot;---need somebody to hate and try to feel superior to, it seems.

Especially at this point in time, the word Democrat is as repugnant to me as the word Republican. That&#039;s why I outright dismiss suggestions from others that people waste their time/money and call, write, e-mail, fax or visit these Republicrat senators or representatives who don&#039;t represent me whatsoever or have any intention of doing so.  Period. We see how much good calling, faxing, e-mails and visits have done since 2000!. Zero. These people in congress don&#039;t care what “we” think whatsoever and I suppose some people will never come to realize that. Now, if I were a lobbyist or CEO at some war-profiteering or military industrial complex corporation these Bush-enablers in congress would welcome me, have lunch with me, party with me and get all snuggly because I would be what they are all about, but these congressional people don&#039;t care what &quot;we&quot; think...the few of us that &quot;we&quot; are in the big scheme of things. These Republicrats just give the illusion at election time that they care what “we” think, and many people still fall for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dan e wrote:</p>
<p>Quote: I myself have stopped Coalitioning, socializing, participating in events featuring Democrats, including those who claim to be “progressive” (of America or anywhere else;)  End Quote</p>
<p>Me too.  I stopped after the Judicial Coup of 2000.  And on some issues (immigration comes to mind) some so-called &#8220;progressives&#8221; sound no differently than the rabid haters who spew the Michael Savage/Limbaugh hate.  Many people&#8212;including some so-called &#8220;progressives&#8221;&#8212;need somebody to hate and try to feel superior to, it seems.</p>
<p>Especially at this point in time, the word Democrat is as repugnant to me as the word Republican. That&#8217;s why I outright dismiss suggestions from others that people waste their time/money and call, write, e-mail, fax or visit these Republicrat senators or representatives who don&#8217;t represent me whatsoever or have any intention of doing so.  Period. We see how much good calling, faxing, e-mails and visits have done since 2000!. Zero. These people in congress don&#8217;t care what “we” think whatsoever and I suppose some people will never come to realize that. Now, if I were a lobbyist or CEO at some war-profiteering or military industrial complex corporation these Bush-enablers in congress would welcome me, have lunch with me, party with me and get all snuggly because I would be what they are all about, but these congressional people don&#8217;t care what &#8220;we&#8221; think&#8230;the few of us that &#8220;we&#8221; are in the big scheme of things. These Republicrats just give the illusion at election time that they care what “we” think, and many people still fall for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23326</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shabnam  wrote:

Quote: Please wear a “GREEN” T-shirt or something else in Green on July 14 and on until July 25th continually to protest against any military aggression on Iran. This is a warning against those who violate the International law for their expansion of power and influence around the world. These war criminals must expect to be overthrown by our unified actions if should they deny our demands. End Quote


How is a purely symbolic gesture of wearing a green t-shirt a warning against anyone and who will know what a green t-shirt means?

These war criminals must expect to be overthrown by &quot;our&quot; unified actions should they deny our demands?  Really? Who is this &quot;our&quot; that you&#039;re referring to? Who exactly is supposedly going to overthrow these war criminals? 

If it&#039;s the 10-20 people  (who comment on some message boards) or 100-200 people who comment on other message boards...is that the &quot;us&quot; you&#039;re referring to? If so, I don&#039;t think that is going to cut it and won&#039;t overthrow anybody.  Instead, that group will end up in one of the Bush Regime&#039;s already-in-place concentration camps.

Since protests in general are getting smaller and smaller especially here in the States, the group that I can think of who would likely be interested in what you&#039;re talking about is very, very small in the big scheme of things. Most people couldn&#039;t be bothered. They are more interested in the dumb-downed stupidity shows on television and whether they have a job to go to and home foreclosures. And most people are too overweight to even walk one block or even walk out to the car and wouldn&#039;t dream of overthrowing anybody, and couldn&#039;t do so even if they tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shabnam  wrote:</p>
<p>Quote: Please wear a “GREEN” T-shirt or something else in Green on July 14 and on until July 25th continually to protest against any military aggression on Iran. This is a warning against those who violate the International law for their expansion of power and influence around the world. These war criminals must expect to be overthrown by our unified actions if should they deny our demands. End Quote</p>
<p>How is a purely symbolic gesture of wearing a green t-shirt a warning against anyone and who will know what a green t-shirt means?</p>
<p>These war criminals must expect to be overthrown by &#8220;our&#8221; unified actions should they deny our demands?  Really? Who is this &#8220;our&#8221; that you&#8217;re referring to? Who exactly is supposedly going to overthrow these war criminals? </p>
<p>If it&#8217;s the 10-20 people  (who comment on some message boards) or 100-200 people who comment on other message boards&#8230;is that the &#8220;us&#8221; you&#8217;re referring to? If so, I don&#8217;t think that is going to cut it and won&#8217;t overthrow anybody.  Instead, that group will end up in one of the Bush Regime&#8217;s already-in-place concentration camps.</p>
<p>Since protests in general are getting smaller and smaller especially here in the States, the group that I can think of who would likely be interested in what you&#8217;re talking about is very, very small in the big scheme of things. Most people couldn&#8217;t be bothered. They are more interested in the dumb-downed stupidity shows on television and whether they have a job to go to and home foreclosures. And most people are too overweight to even walk one block or even walk out to the car and wouldn&#8217;t dream of overthrowing anybody, and couldn&#8217;t do so even if they tried.</p>
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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23316</link>
		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please wear a “GREEN” T-shirt or something else in Green on July 14 and on until July 25th continually to protest against any military aggression on Iran.  This is a warning against those who violate the International law for their expansion of power and influence around the world.  These war criminals must expect to be overthrown by our unified actions if should they deny our demands.  All options are on the table to save humanity from criminal acts.   Iranian people who have been under attack since the Iranian revolution, militarily and economically, are fed up with double standard policy where the violators are rewarded and those who have followed the UN rules are punished.  Iran will not abandon her rights to enrichment which is protected under the NPT where Iran is a signatory and demands that the war criminals recognize Iran’s right. 

Please everyone ask other people to wear GREEN T – shirt starting July 14, 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please wear a “GREEN” T-shirt or something else in Green on July 14 and on until July 25th continually to protest against any military aggression on Iran.  This is a warning against those who violate the International law for their expansion of power and influence around the world.  These war criminals must expect to be overthrown by our unified actions if should they deny our demands.  All options are on the table to save humanity from criminal acts.   Iranian people who have been under attack since the Iranian revolution, militarily and economically, are fed up with double standard policy where the violators are rewarded and those who have followed the UN rules are punished.  Iran will not abandon her rights to enrichment which is protected under the NPT where Iran is a signatory and demands that the war criminals recognize Iran’s right. </p>
<p>Please everyone ask other people to wear GREEN T – shirt starting July 14, 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23310</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems ironic to say voices for justice and fairness are radical.
A sign of the times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems ironic to say voices for justice and fairness are radical.<br />
A sign of the times.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23303</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to me, US  invasion of  iraq was not  a catastrophic mistake nor  is US  governing class  stupid.
governing class  knows  what it wants. judging  by much evidence, rulling class  is  satisfied  w. the sit&#039;ns in iraq, afgh&#039;n, and palestine.
if  it wasn&#039;t satisfied what it is doing now it wd  do some changing.
the war  against  iraqis is and will forever  be willful crime for landgrab and in no way can  this crime can be called &quot;mistake&quot;.
&quot;mistakes&quot;  r forgiven;ie, not punishable by law;  people who do crimes  r  or ought to be prosecuted.
people who call  US  crimes &quot;mistakes&quot;  undermine work by cucinic.
and i thought that  most DV&#039;s commenters  were radical  voices  for justice/fairness. thank u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to me, US  invasion of  iraq was not  a catastrophic mistake nor  is US  governing class  stupid.<br />
governing class  knows  what it wants. judging  by much evidence, rulling class  is  satisfied  w. the sit&#8217;ns in iraq, afgh&#8217;n, and palestine.<br />
if  it wasn&#8217;t satisfied what it is doing now it wd  do some changing.<br />
the war  against  iraqis is and will forever  be willful crime for landgrab and in no way can  this crime can be called &#8220;mistake&#8221;.<br />
&#8220;mistakes&#8221;  r forgiven;ie, not punishable by law;  people who do crimes  r  or ought to be prosecuted.<br />
people who call  US  crimes &#8220;mistakes&#8221;  undermine work by cucinic.<br />
and i thought that  most DV&#8217;s commenters  were radical  voices  for justice/fairness. thank u</p>
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		<title>By: Masih Ghorbani</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23271</link>
		<dc:creator>Masih Ghorbani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I presume a war on Iran is quite possible given the new irresponsible war threats against Iran by Israel and the US government. Another war in the region means total chaos and insecurity not only in the region but also in the entire world. With the influence Iran wields in the region, the Muslims will unite under one umbrella to combat war against Iran. The Shia Muslims in Iraq will surely play a very important part in paralyzing the warmongering efforts of the US or Isreali regime. But the question is why should they attack Iran? Is it really a threat to world peace? If there is any real threat, that is Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I presume a war on Iran is quite possible given the new irresponsible war threats against Iran by Israel and the US government. Another war in the region means total chaos and insecurity not only in the region but also in the entire world. With the influence Iran wields in the region, the Muslims will unite under one umbrella to combat war against Iran. The Shia Muslims in Iraq will surely play a very important part in paralyzing the warmongering efforts of the US or Isreali regime. But the question is why should they attack Iran? Is it really a threat to world peace? If there is any real threat, that is Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23270</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil,

We are already in a recession, not on the brink of one. We are on the brink of a depression:

http://www.housingpredictor.com/depression.html

You wrote that you are skeptical about the Bush regime&#039;s intent to attack Iran.  Have you read PNAC?

As for Bush/Cheney, even if they leave office in January 2009 (which I&#039;ll believe when I see it...I don&#039;t think they have any intent of going anywhere), their regime will not be coming to an end by any means. The entire Bush Republicrat Crime Family will still be in place.  And phony Hope/Change Obama is already talking about using some of the operatives from the Bush regime in his own regime, should he be allowed to occupy the White House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil,</p>
<p>We are already in a recession, not on the brink of one. We are on the brink of a depression:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.housingpredictor.com/depression.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.housingpredictor.com/depression.html</a></p>
<p>You wrote that you are skeptical about the Bush regime&#8217;s intent to attack Iran.  Have you read PNAC?</p>
<p>As for Bush/Cheney, even if they leave office in January 2009 (which I&#8217;ll believe when I see it&#8230;I don&#8217;t think they have any intent of going anywhere), their regime will not be coming to an end by any means. The entire Bush Republicrat Crime Family will still be in place.  And phony Hope/Change Obama is already talking about using some of the operatives from the Bush regime in his own regime, should he be allowed to occupy the White House.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Benson</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23267</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 04:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I would never under estimate the current administration&#039;s stupidity and arrogance, I&#039;m still a little skeptical that it would launch an unprovoked attack against Iran.  The administration and this country look so foolish having invaded Iraq under false evidence.  We would have no support, outside of Israel, anywhere in the world.  We are in the brink of a recession that could easily turn into a depression with $200+a barrel plus oil if we could even get it.  Fear mongering, hate mongering, and a whole host of negative emotions pervade the nation as one of the least popular and least effective presidential regimes can&#039;t come quickly enough to an end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I would never under estimate the current administration&#8217;s stupidity and arrogance, I&#8217;m still a little skeptical that it would launch an unprovoked attack against Iran.  The administration and this country look so foolish having invaded Iraq under false evidence.  We would have no support, outside of Israel, anywhere in the world.  We are in the brink of a recession that could easily turn into a depression with $200+a barrel plus oil if we could even get it.  Fear mongering, hate mongering, and a whole host of negative emotions pervade the nation as one of the least popular and least effective presidential regimes can&#8217;t come quickly enough to an end.</p>
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		<title>By: evie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23258</link>
		<dc:creator>evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True Hue, true.</description>
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		<title>By: Hue Longer</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23257</link>
		<dc:creator>Hue Longer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Today it seems that it is generally agreed that the Iraq invasion and subsequent occupation were catastrophic mistakes&quot;.

Generally agreed upon by those believing  the given mission statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Today it seems that it is generally agreed that the Iraq invasion and subsequent occupation were catastrophic mistakes&#8221;.</p>
<p>Generally agreed upon by those believing  the given mission statements.</p>
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		<title>By: dan e</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23253</link>
		<dc:creator>dan e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said, Sam.

I myself have stopped Coalitioning, socializing, participating in events featuring Democrats, including those who claim to be &quot;progressive&quot; (of America or anywhere else;) 

I think we need to start discussing how to implement a Boycott of all these Demo Pty phonies, and all their enablers. But where to draw the line? Clearly all officeholders &amp; candidates shld get the cold shoulder, the silent trtmnt. So should professional Demockrat operatives, County Cmte members etc. 

It gets tricky, because to apply the boycott across the bd means you have to boycott, for instance, the Latino members of the local school board, who have a better record than most in opposing &quot;charter school&quot; scams etc.  On the other hand, these Latino activists are among those who need to hear the message the most, who cd benefit the most from having the whole deal explained to them, that is assuming they aren&#039;t really vendido cynical about the whole game. 

Same thoughts apply to LBGT, other minorities, Women&#039;s Rts, even Welfare Rts is a timber in the edifice erected by the USZIPC.

I realize I&#039;m personally not competitive, but having understood the basic principles of The Game what I CAN do is refuse to participate in any more mummery. 

If you have any better/clearer ideas, I&#039;m all ears. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said, Sam.</p>
<p>I myself have stopped Coalitioning, socializing, participating in events featuring Democrats, including those who claim to be &#8220;progressive&#8221; (of America or anywhere else;) </p>
<p>I think we need to start discussing how to implement a Boycott of all these Demo Pty phonies, and all their enablers. But where to draw the line? Clearly all officeholders &amp; candidates shld get the cold shoulder, the silent trtmnt. So should professional Demockrat operatives, County Cmte members etc. </p>
<p>It gets tricky, because to apply the boycott across the bd means you have to boycott, for instance, the Latino members of the local school board, who have a better record than most in opposing &#8220;charter school&#8221; scams etc.  On the other hand, these Latino activists are among those who need to hear the message the most, who cd benefit the most from having the whole deal explained to them, that is assuming they aren&#8217;t really vendido cynical about the whole game. </p>
<p>Same thoughts apply to LBGT, other minorities, Women&#8217;s Rts, even Welfare Rts is a timber in the edifice erected by the USZIPC.</p>
<p>I realize I&#8217;m personally not competitive, but having understood the basic principles of The Game what I CAN do is refuse to participate in any more mummery. </p>
<p>If you have any better/clearer ideas, I&#8217;m all ears. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23249</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article says:

Quote: It is disappointing that the Democrats who came to power in 2006 by purporting to be antiwar, are proving yet again that just as they have been incapable of stopping the Bush/Cheney debacle in Iraq, they are equally ineffectual in opposing the looming next war, the one with Iran.  End quote.

The Dems are not &quot;incapable&quot; of stopping Bush/Cheney, if they wanted to.  The Dems have no intention or interest in stopping Bush/Cheney, because the Dems work for them.  That&#039;s why &quot;impeachment is off the table&quot; and has been since before 2006.  The Dems have worked FOR the Bush Regime since 2000. And to say that they are &quot;incapable&quot; gives the impression that the Dems are somehow opposed to Bush when actually just the opposite is the case. The Dems have helped Bush accomplish most of what he has accomplished, examples: Alito, Roberts, USAPATRIOT ACT, 2 illegal wars/occupations, illegal spying, torture, &quot;impeachment off the table&quot;...the list goes on.)

Also, many months ago (since the Dems became the majority in power) they gave Bush authority to attack Iran **without** seeking congressional approval. They did the same thing again recently. Pelosi (that Bush-enabling woman who thinks the US Constitution---what&#039;s left of it---belongs to her) removed language from a bill requiring Bush to seek congressional approval for attacking Iran. 

Anyone surprised? You shouldn&#039;t be at this point.

When the day comes that people FINALLY see the Dems for who and what they really are (as opposed to what people want them to be), people will stop asking why there is so little opposition from the Dems.  At this point it is very clear to those who want to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article says:</p>
<p>Quote: It is disappointing that the Democrats who came to power in 2006 by purporting to be antiwar, are proving yet again that just as they have been incapable of stopping the Bush/Cheney debacle in Iraq, they are equally ineffectual in opposing the looming next war, the one with Iran.  End quote.</p>
<p>The Dems are not &#8220;incapable&#8221; of stopping Bush/Cheney, if they wanted to.  The Dems have no intention or interest in stopping Bush/Cheney, because the Dems work for them.  That&#8217;s why &#8220;impeachment is off the table&#8221; and has been since before 2006.  The Dems have worked FOR the Bush Regime since 2000. And to say that they are &#8220;incapable&#8221; gives the impression that the Dems are somehow opposed to Bush when actually just the opposite is the case. The Dems have helped Bush accomplish most of what he has accomplished, examples: Alito, Roberts, USAPATRIOT ACT, 2 illegal wars/occupations, illegal spying, torture, &#8220;impeachment off the table&#8221;&#8230;the list goes on.)</p>
<p>Also, many months ago (since the Dems became the majority in power) they gave Bush authority to attack Iran **without** seeking congressional approval. They did the same thing again recently. Pelosi (that Bush-enabling woman who thinks the US Constitution&#8212;what&#8217;s left of it&#8212;belongs to her) removed language from a bill requiring Bush to seek congressional approval for attacking Iran. </p>
<p>Anyone surprised? You shouldn&#8217;t be at this point.</p>
<p>When the day comes that people FINALLY see the Dems for who and what they really are (as opposed to what people want them to be), people will stop asking why there is so little opposition from the Dems.  At this point it is very clear to those who want to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Harris</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23244</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is urgent that we do all we can to stop 362.  It is not because it would be immediately followed by the naval blockade that it urges  President Bush to implement. But because it sets in motion yet another provocation to Iran, with the aim being to goad Iran to take some action that would provide a political cover for a US military attack. 
Read more:
http://stopaipac.org/iranresolution.htm
Contact your congressperson. NOW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is urgent that we do all we can to stop 362.  It is not because it would be immediately followed by the naval blockade that it urges  President Bush to implement. But because it sets in motion yet another provocation to Iran, with the aim being to goad Iran to take some action that would provide a political cover for a US military attack.<br />
Read more:<br />
<a href="http://stopaipac.org/iranresolution.htm" rel="nofollow">http://stopaipac.org/iranresolution.htm</a><br />
Contact your congressperson. NOW.</p>
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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23240</link>
		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahmadinejad is not stupid.  &quot;Any attack on Iran now would actually suit Iran!&quot; Michael Kenny: I never heard such a stupid and irresponsible statement anywhere on this site.  You must be either an enemy of Iran or totally ignorant of international affairs to say such a thing.  Iran has suffered greatly by Iraq war beyond your narrow imagination.  Iraq war was encouraged by the US and her allies and supported by Arab financial aid.  The war left more than 700,000 death bodies and thousands of cripples and destruction of number of cities.  Who wants that? The US – Israel – Britain, the real axis of evil, have been busy to apply the game of the imperialism and Zionism, divide and rule, to destabilize Iran for the past few years.  The Kurds, Ahwazi and Baloch are trained by the US – Israel and Britain to kill authorities and conduct terrorist activities inside and near the Iranian border to create terror and fear to speed up the destabilization process for final act. The Kurds are given military training and are considered enablers and as a result they have presented themselves as enemy and no one trust them  We need people to shake their behind and stop shopping and start acting to make a lot of noise that send a fearful message to the fifth columnists in the WH, senate and the congress that if you attack Iran we will set your place of authority on FIRE.  If you are impotent to impeach the war criminals then stop Cheney’s medical care or give him the same medical care that ordinary American people have so he soon enough says GOOD BYE.  Why do you want to extent his criminal activities to Iran on Israel behalf?  Everyone must be mobilized to stop these war criminals to commit another crime against humanity.  People should stop talking in such a way that attack on Iran is “unavoidable” or it can not happen.  Act like a grown up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahmadinejad is not stupid.  &#8220;Any attack on Iran now would actually suit Iran!&#8221; Michael Kenny: I never heard such a stupid and irresponsible statement anywhere on this site.  You must be either an enemy of Iran or totally ignorant of international affairs to say such a thing.  Iran has suffered greatly by Iraq war beyond your narrow imagination.  Iraq war was encouraged by the US and her allies and supported by Arab financial aid.  The war left more than 700,000 death bodies and thousands of cripples and destruction of number of cities.  Who wants that? The US – Israel – Britain, the real axis of evil, have been busy to apply the game of the imperialism and Zionism, divide and rule, to destabilize Iran for the past few years.  The Kurds, Ahwazi and Baloch are trained by the US – Israel and Britain to kill authorities and conduct terrorist activities inside and near the Iranian border to create terror and fear to speed up the destabilization process for final act. The Kurds are given military training and are considered enablers and as a result they have presented themselves as enemy and no one trust them  We need people to shake their behind and stop shopping and start acting to make a lot of noise that send a fearful message to the fifth columnists in the WH, senate and the congress that if you attack Iran we will set your place of authority on FIRE.  If you are impotent to impeach the war criminals then stop Cheney’s medical care or give him the same medical care that ordinary American people have so he soon enough says GOOD BYE.  Why do you want to extent his criminal activities to Iran on Israel behalf?  Everyone must be mobilized to stop these war criminals to commit another crime against humanity.  People should stop talking in such a way that attack on Iran is “unavoidable” or it can not happen.  Act like a grown up.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/iran-in-the-crosshairs/#comment-23227</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interesting thing about all this is that any attack on Iran now would actually suit Iran! That Bush and his crew might be too stupid to see that, I can well imagine, but it would surprise me if the Israelis were that stupid. Sabre rattling suits the Israels very well. An actual attack would discredit them and their sole surviving protector, the US. Are the Israelis panicking as US power collapses? If I was Ahmadinejad, I would simply say &quot;bring &#039;em on&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interesting thing about all this is that any attack on Iran now would actually suit Iran! That Bush and his crew might be too stupid to see that, I can well imagine, but it would surprise me if the Israelis were that stupid. Sabre rattling suits the Israels very well. An actual attack would discredit them and their sole surviving protector, the US. Are the Israelis panicking as US power collapses? If I was Ahmadinejad, I would simply say &#8220;bring &#8216;em on&#8221;!</p>
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