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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/another-blow-to-the-nwo/#comment-27920</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and Don... I wish you luck but feel that the N.A.U will come whatever... The US won&#039;t stop just because the people don&#039;t want it... You guys are in far more trouble than we are currently.  Least it seems that way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and Don&#8230; I wish you luck but feel that the N.A.U will come whatever&#8230; The US won&#8217;t stop just because the people don&#8217;t want it&#8230; You guys are in far more trouble than we are currently.  Least it seems that way?</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/another-blow-to-the-nwo/#comment-27919</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God... Now we just need to start undoing all of these other constraints on our liberty and national sovereignty...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God&#8230; Now we just need to start undoing all of these other constraints on our liberty and national sovereignty&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/another-blow-to-the-nwo/#comment-22563</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The proud Irish can stand tall.  Hopefully we in the U.S. can stand tall and somehow block the N.A.U.</description>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/another-blow-to-the-nwo/#comment-22400</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI,  Sunil et al.

&quot;Juneteenth, also known as Freedom Day or Emancipation Day, is an annual holiday or holiday observance in 26 states of the United States. Celebrated on June 19, it commemorates the announcement of the abolition of slavery in Texas. The holiday originated in Galveston, Texas; for more than a century, the state of Texas was the primary home of Juneteenth celebrations.&quot;

Wikipedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI,  Sunil et al.</p>
<p>&#8220;Juneteenth, also known as Freedom Day or Emancipation Day, is an annual holiday or holiday observance in 26 states of the United States. Celebrated on June 19, it commemorates the announcement of the abolition of slavery in Texas. The holiday originated in Galveston, Texas; for more than a century, the state of Texas was the primary home of Juneteenth celebrations.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>By: D.R. Munro</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/another-blow-to-the-nwo/#comment-22397</link>
		<dc:creator>D.R. Munro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a case of the battle has been won, but clearly not the war.

So, for today, well done Irish public.  For tomorrow, though, we&#039;ll have to see.  &quot;Capitalist gangsters&quot; are not known to take defeat likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a case of the battle has been won, but clearly not the war.</p>
<p>So, for today, well done Irish public.  For tomorrow, though, we&#8217;ll have to see.  &#8220;Capitalist gangsters&#8221; are not known to take defeat likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/another-blow-to-the-nwo/#comment-22370</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, the idea that the Lisbon Treaty had anything to do with creating “an EU Superstate” is utterly absurd, although the underlying idea of squaring up to the US is undoubtedly positive. US neocon propaganda (which US “progressives” always seem to swallow unquestioningly!) has presented the thing as such, but even if the Constution, never mind Lisbon, had been adopted, it would have changed very little. 90% of what was in the treaty is already in effect or will come into effect very shortly by virtue of earlier treaties. 90%of the rest can be enacted into law without the need for a treaty. About the only thing we will not have is the presidency, his superfluous excellency, as Ben Franklin said. The only loser there is Tony Blair, who had his eye on the presidency! And, of course, since all the EU institutions are functioning very smoothly, it’s hard to see why any “reform” is needed at all.

Beyond that preliminary point, what Mr Whitney says is essentially correct but he only vaguely grasps the “own goal” that US neocons have scored against themselves. Let me count the ways.

- The whole idea of meddling in the vote was to hamstring the EU, but that has not happened. The defeat of the Constitution had no negative effect, so why should the watered down version cause any problem?
- The Lisbon Treaty was the brainchild of Sarkoky, “pro-American” in neocon mythology. It was supported by Blair, Brown, Merkel and others of the same ilk. The neocons have humiliated every EU politician who was even vaguely friendly to the US!
- The Irish were opposed principally to the US-imposed militarisation of the EU and, like the French, to US-imposed globalisation. A referendum in almost any other Member State would have gone the same way. Thus, the idea the Irish are “isolated” is just not true. Thus, instead of suppressing opposition, the Irish “no” has re-animated it, and on the very themes that the neocons were trying to avoid! 
- Libertas, the main “no” organisation, and its leader, a certain Declan Ganley, born in England (sic!), resident in NY (sic!) and a US military contractor (sic!), are in serious trouble with the law for refusing to reveal the sources of Libertas’s financing, contrary to Irish law. Rumour has it that the money came from US military and intelligence sources and that Ganley is a man of straw for some nasty neocon (if you’ll pardon the redundancy!) think tank. He is also said to have connections to some very nasty people in Russia. Libertas is currently being investigated and the whole thing will probably end up in court but if even a fraction of this is true, the US will be seriously discredited in Europe and, on top of all that, Vladimir Putin will be proved right as regards the sinister activities of US-funded NGOs, meddling in European democracy and openly flouting our laws!
- The new Irish PM, Brian Cowan, has been humiliated and he will want to shift the blame for the debacle. The obvious victim is Ganley and his American backers. Rich foreigners steamrolling us and, even worse, Irishmen who take the foreigners’ money are old themes in Irish politics. The “yes” camp, Cowan in the lead, will jump at it, many of the “no” people will be furious at the idea that they were manipulated. It will take years for the current investigation to play out, with the full gamut of hearings and court cases.

In other words, US neocons have shot themselves in the foot several times over! 

What will happen now? Well, nothing, in fact! Everybody is shouting their heads off for the moment but when they cool down, they’ll realise that all the various suggestions are cures worse than the disease. It took three years to get from the French to the Irish referendum. I would guess little enough will happen for a few years. Anything that can be enacted by legislation will be (quietly!) and the rest will be left to one side.

One thing it does prove though: the EU is VERY democratic! Ireland is inside and it stops the EU in its tracks. Serbia is outside and it gets crushed under the American jackboot! Q.E.D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, the idea that the Lisbon Treaty had anything to do with creating “an EU Superstate” is utterly absurd, although the underlying idea of squaring up to the US is undoubtedly positive. US neocon propaganda (which US “progressives” always seem to swallow unquestioningly!) has presented the thing as such, but even if the Constution, never mind Lisbon, had been adopted, it would have changed very little. 90% of what was in the treaty is already in effect or will come into effect very shortly by virtue of earlier treaties. 90%of the rest can be enacted into law without the need for a treaty. About the only thing we will not have is the presidency, his superfluous excellency, as Ben Franklin said. The only loser there is Tony Blair, who had his eye on the presidency! And, of course, since all the EU institutions are functioning very smoothly, it’s hard to see why any “reform” is needed at all.</p>
<p>Beyond that preliminary point, what Mr Whitney says is essentially correct but he only vaguely grasps the “own goal” that US neocons have scored against themselves. Let me count the ways.</p>
<p>- The whole idea of meddling in the vote was to hamstring the EU, but that has not happened. The defeat of the Constitution had no negative effect, so why should the watered down version cause any problem?<br />
- The Lisbon Treaty was the brainchild of Sarkoky, “pro-American” in neocon mythology. It was supported by Blair, Brown, Merkel and others of the same ilk. The neocons have humiliated every EU politician who was even vaguely friendly to the US!<br />
- The Irish were opposed principally to the US-imposed militarisation of the EU and, like the French, to US-imposed globalisation. A referendum in almost any other Member State would have gone the same way. Thus, the idea the Irish are “isolated” is just not true. Thus, instead of suppressing opposition, the Irish “no” has re-animated it, and on the very themes that the neocons were trying to avoid!<br />
- Libertas, the main “no” organisation, and its leader, a certain Declan Ganley, born in England (sic!), resident in NY (sic!) and a US military contractor (sic!), are in serious trouble with the law for refusing to reveal the sources of Libertas’s financing, contrary to Irish law. Rumour has it that the money came from US military and intelligence sources and that Ganley is a man of straw for some nasty neocon (if you’ll pardon the redundancy!) think tank. He is also said to have connections to some very nasty people in Russia. Libertas is currently being investigated and the whole thing will probably end up in court but if even a fraction of this is true, the US will be seriously discredited in Europe and, on top of all that, Vladimir Putin will be proved right as regards the sinister activities of US-funded NGOs, meddling in European democracy and openly flouting our laws!<br />
- The new Irish PM, Brian Cowan, has been humiliated and he will want to shift the blame for the debacle. The obvious victim is Ganley and his American backers. Rich foreigners steamrolling us and, even worse, Irishmen who take the foreigners’ money are old themes in Irish politics. The “yes” camp, Cowan in the lead, will jump at it, many of the “no” people will be furious at the idea that they were manipulated. It will take years for the current investigation to play out, with the full gamut of hearings and court cases.</p>
<p>In other words, US neocons have shot themselves in the foot several times over! </p>
<p>What will happen now? Well, nothing, in fact! Everybody is shouting their heads off for the moment but when they cool down, they’ll realise that all the various suggestions are cures worse than the disease. It took three years to get from the French to the Irish referendum. I would guess little enough will happen for a few years. Anything that can be enacted by legislation will be (quietly!) and the rest will be left to one side.</p>
<p>One thing it does prove though: the EU is VERY democratic! Ireland is inside and it stops the EU in its tracks. Serbia is outside and it gets crushed under the American jackboot! Q.E.D.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/another-blow-to-the-nwo/#comment-22369</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is happening to us, the unwashe,  would have  never happened had  yahweh  not  slai n  baal, the best god  one could ever have.
instead  we  r  stuck  w. yahweh   god,  and  the devil.
i do not know which of the 3  gods  is  nuttier, vainglorious, stupid, bloodthirsty  but  all  3  r  cauisng us  much  trouble. thanx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is happening to us, the unwashe,  would have  never happened had  yahweh  not  slai n  baal, the best god  one could ever have.<br />
instead  we  r  stuck  w. yahweh   god,  and  the devil.<br />
i do not know which of the 3  gods  is  nuttier, vainglorious, stupid, bloodthirsty  but  all  3  r  cauisng us  much  trouble. thanx</p>
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		<title>By: Arch Stanton</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/another-blow-to-the-nwo/#comment-22367</link>
		<dc:creator>Arch Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think globally, act Irishly (?)</description>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/another-blow-to-the-nwo/#comment-22366</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who grew up milking cows on a dairy farm in Pa. can&#039;t be all bad.</description>
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		<title>By: Giorgio</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/another-blow-to-the-nwo/#comment-22365</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that huge tome of jargon, the Lisbon Treaty, got a body blow from the Irish!

But this won&#039;t stop the relentless march of that  Zer0 POINT. Zero Zer0 Zero Zero Zero ONE per CENT, the world&#039;s Super  Elites, to eventually turn the infinitely lage majority of this word&#039;s Humankind into their abject playground: to exploit, abuse and nuke to their heart&#039;s content by whichever means is the most profitable.... 

This is the Grand Democracy being shoved down one&#039;s throat  where One Elitist vote has the weight of  TEN MILLION votes from the rest of us.

This is why I&#039;m a great admirer of that medical doctor and congressman
Ron Paul who is dead against such megalomaniac schemes. As an obstetrician he has delivered over 4000 babies.

 MAY HE NOW DELIVER US FROM THIS EVIL

Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that huge tome of jargon, the Lisbon Treaty, got a body blow from the Irish!</p>
<p>But this won&#8217;t stop the relentless march of that  Zer0 POINT. Zero Zer0 Zero Zero Zero ONE per CENT, the world&#8217;s Super  Elites, to eventually turn the infinitely lage majority of this word&#8217;s Humankind into their abject playground: to exploit, abuse and nuke to their heart&#8217;s content by whichever means is the most profitable&#8230;. </p>
<p>This is the Grand Democracy being shoved down one&#8217;s throat  where One Elitist vote has the weight of  TEN MILLION votes from the rest of us.</p>
<p>This is why I&#8217;m a great admirer of that medical doctor and congressman<br />
Ron Paul who is dead against such megalomaniac schemes. As an obstetrician he has delivered over 4000 babies.</p>
<p> MAY HE NOW DELIVER US FROM THIS EVIL</p>
<p>Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/another-blow-to-the-nwo/#comment-22363</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it had  been  noticeably to me  that  the plutocrats  in europe have  been striving  to do  to own  and alien people  what  US had been  doing for a long time.
i&#039;m very  glad  irish  said no  to  these bastards. i&#039;m  both  the Leftist and the Rightist.
since  we  will  always have  more talented  people  than others i  think it is  ok for  them to make  more money as long  as they don&#039;t  become politically  stronger  than  the rest  of us.
nat., i&#039;d  prefer  we  all  make  same  money, but we can&#039;t  force  more talented  to accept  this  premise.
so, in this regard,  i&#039;m  a rightist. thank u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it had  been  noticeably to me  that  the plutocrats  in europe have  been striving  to do  to own  and alien people  what  US had been  doing for a long time.<br />
i&#8217;m very  glad  irish  said no  to  these bastards. i&#8217;m  both  the Leftist and the Rightist.<br />
since  we  will  always have  more talented  people  than others i  think it is  ok for  them to make  more money as long  as they don&#8217;t  become politically  stronger  than  the rest  of us.<br />
nat., i&#8217;d  prefer  we  all  make  same  money, but we can&#8217;t  force  more talented  to accept  this  premise.<br />
so, in this regard,  i&#8217;m  a rightist. thank u</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Parvey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/another-blow-to-the-nwo/#comment-22361</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Parvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only Americans had the balls of the Irish we could stop this fascist trend and hold these creeps accountable for the damage they have already done. When did the U.S. lose it&#039;s capacity for critical thought?
Wow! &quot;America&#039;s got Talent&quot; is sure to be a hit.
still hopeful,
a disgruntled american</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only Americans had the balls of the Irish we could stop this fascist trend and hold these creeps accountable for the damage they have already done. When did the U.S. lose it&#8217;s capacity for critical thought?<br />
Wow! &#8220;America&#8217;s got Talent&#8221; is sure to be a hit.<br />
still hopeful,<br />
a disgruntled american</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin Pell</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/another-blow-to-the-nwo/#comment-22358</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwin Pell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, three cheers for the Irish. 

Why doesn&#039;t the EU just cut out Ireland and continue on their merry way? 

Or they could do the U.S. thing and impose sanctions on Ireland and no fly zones, freeze their bank accounts, limit the amount of food they can import, do some random bombing, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, three cheers for the Irish. </p>
<p>Why doesn&#8217;t the EU just cut out Ireland and continue on their merry way? </p>
<p>Or they could do the U.S. thing and impose sanctions on Ireland and no fly zones, freeze their bank accounts, limit the amount of food they can import, do some random bombing, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rjones2818</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjones2818</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God(s) love the Irish!</description>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
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		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three cheers for the Irish!</description>
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