Comments on: “Complicit Enablers”: UK Media Ignores US Whistleblowers http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/%e2%80%9ccomplicit-enablers%e2%80%9d-uk-media-ignores-us-whistleblowers/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:12:24 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Lloyd Rowsey http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/%e2%80%9ccomplicit-enablers%e2%80%9d-uk-media-ignores-us-whistleblowers/#comment-22295 Lloyd Rowsey Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:51:03 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2158#comment-22295 *delete "pervasive and" The "media" has been over-analysed to death, hysperia. The left's critique of the broader, secrecy problem however is as moribund as it was in the 1970's. The major areas for systematic investigation and reportage are international affairs, of course, corporate secrecy, the criminal justice system, and electoral politics. The question is not whether this is a virtually impossible-sounding task; it is whether progressive change CAN occur before the task is undertaken. More later. lloydrowsey@hotmail.com *delete “pervasive and”

The “media” has been over-analysed to death, hysperia. The left’s critique of the broader, secrecy problem however is as moribund as it was in the 1970’s. The major areas for systematic investigation and reportage are international affairs, of course, corporate secrecy, the criminal justice system, and electoral politics. The question is not whether this is a virtually impossible-sounding task; it is whether progressive change CAN occur before the task is undertaken.

More later.

lloydrowsey@hotmail.com

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/%e2%80%9ccomplicit-enablers%e2%80%9d-uk-media-ignores-us-whistleblowers/#comment-22239 Lloyd Rowsey Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:31:22 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2158#comment-22239 the problem, hysperia, is not the political economy of the media. it is the political economy of secrecy. but if you think it is the narrower problem, you might mosey over to Monthly Review and purchase Robert W. McChesney's new "The Political Economy of the Media." conglomerated in one book, thirty years of ignoring the pervasive and doctrinal secrecy pervading free enterprise capitalism and focusing instead on The Media. and guess what. now, the media's a joke too. the problem, hysperia, is not the political economy of the media. it is the political economy of secrecy. but if you think it is the narrower problem, you might mosey over to Monthly Review and purchase Robert W. McChesney’s new “The Political Economy of the Media.” conglomerated in one book, thirty years of ignoring the pervasive and doctrinal secrecy pervading free enterprise capitalism and focusing instead on The Media.

and guess what. now, the media’s a joke too.

]]> By: hysperia http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/%e2%80%9ccomplicit-enablers%e2%80%9d-uk-media-ignores-us-whistleblowers/#comment-22165 hysperia Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:29:14 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2158#comment-22165 Why is it not critical, in fact, to determine the mechanism of control of the media? If it really is some kind of totalitarian thought control, that might mean that we simply have to get rid of the controllers and their subjects. The corporate media and their employees then. But if it isn't actual thought control, if it's just the logical result of a much wider system of exploitative and coercive control and legitimation, then surely much more profound,radical transformation is called for? Why is it not critical, in fact, to determine the mechanism of control of the media? If it really is some kind of totalitarian thought control, that might mean that we simply have to get rid of the controllers and their subjects. The corporate media and their employees then. But if it isn’t actual thought control, if it’s just the logical result of a much wider system of exploitative and coercive control and legitimation, then surely much more profound,radical transformation is called for?

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/%e2%80%9ccomplicit-enablers%e2%80%9d-uk-media-ignores-us-whistleblowers/#comment-22085 Lloyd Rowsey Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:03:48 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2158#comment-22085 What's really chilling? Hitler tried to keep the extermination camps secret from the German public, a homocidal maniac's gesture to the possibility of effective protest. No such worries concern the homocidal maniacs running the present Administration. What’s really chilling? Hitler tried to keep the extermination camps secret from the German public, a homocidal maniac’s gesture to the possibility of effective protest. No such worries concern the homocidal maniacs running the present Administration.

]]> By: hp http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/%e2%80%9ccomplicit-enablers%e2%80%9d-uk-media-ignores-us-whistleblowers/#comment-22047 hp Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:14:43 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2158#comment-22047 How many times (look at Clinton's body count) have whistle blowers and potential whistle blowers ended up, as the old saying goes, not just "whistling by the graveyard", but in the graveyard? How many times (look at Clinton’s body count) have whistle blowers and potential whistle blowers ended up, as the old saying goes, not just “whistling by the graveyard”, but in the graveyard?

]]> By: bozhidar balkas http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/%e2%80%9ccomplicit-enablers%e2%80%9d-uk-media-ignores-us-whistleblowers/#comment-22034 bozhidar balkas Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:37:41 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2158#comment-22034 US had no right to invade iraq. it is, to me, irrelevant what US thought/felt/said ab iraq. saddam was a war criminal. but has US the right to collectively punish iraqis because iraqi gov't was responsible for crimes? don't we have ICTY to deal w. war criminals? had ICTY issued warrant for his arrest and a ransom put on his head of bns, what would saddam have done having 'only' ab 6bn enemies? he would have run to world court for protection. but US knew or ought to have known (US is not a moron) this. however, by avoiding this legality and desirability, US obtains an enormously important real estate. so, why r amers still talking ab iran as they thought/felt/said ab iraq. cannot US get the world court to deal w. alleged crimes by ahmadin, et al? why again punish colllectively innocents? thank u that was obvious to most peoples and except americans. or, was everyone in US delibarately played stupid? the iraq invasion is not a blunder/mistake but a serious crime. and iraq invasion was based on truth. the truth being, Get iraq and not saddam. thank u US had no right to invade iraq. it is, to me, irrelevant what US thought/felt/said ab iraq.
saddam was a war criminal. but has US the right to collectively punish iraqis because iraqi gov’t was responsible for crimes?
don’t we have ICTY to deal w. war criminals?
had ICTY issued warrant for his arrest and a ransom put on his head of bns, what would saddam have done having ‘only’ ab 6bn enemies?
he would have run to world court for protection.
but US knew or ought to have known (US is not a moron) this.
however, by avoiding this legality and desirability, US obtains an enormously important real estate.
so, why r amers still talking ab iran as they thought/felt/said ab iraq.
cannot US get the world court to deal w. alleged crimes by ahmadin, et al? why again punish colllectively innocents? thank u
that was obvious to most peoples and except americans. or, was everyone in US delibarately played stupid?
the iraq invasion is not a blunder/mistake but a serious crime.
and iraq invasion was based on truth. the truth being, Get iraq and not saddam. thank u

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