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	<title>Comments on: Why All of Our Efforts Won’t Stop the Attack on Iran</title>
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		<title>By: Mike McNiven</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/why-all-of-our-efforts-won%e2%80%99t-stop-the-attack-on-iran/#comment-20453</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McNiven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the latest from an anti-imperialist/anti-zionist friend of Peoples of Iran, who is also a very serious Presidential candidate:

http://www.counterpunch.org/nader05142008.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the latest from an anti-imperialist/anti-zionist friend of Peoples of Iran, who is also a very serious Presidential candidate:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/nader05142008.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.counterpunch.org/nader05142008.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: D.R. Munro</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/why-all-of-our-efforts-won%e2%80%99t-stop-the-attack-on-iran/#comment-20421</link>
		<dc:creator>D.R. Munro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam Pieniazek,

I like your lofty ideals, but that is all they are.  The time for hopeful wishes and goodwill has passed, they had their chance and failed.

Here is the real deal.  YOU may be done fighting, and declaring peace all you want . . . but that doesn&#039;t mean your enemy is going to.  So while you are declaring peace, they are running over you with a tank.

We are humans.  We kill each other.  We kill other things.  This is what we do, better to just get used to it.  Trying to save the world will slowly destroy you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam Pieniazek,</p>
<p>I like your lofty ideals, but that is all they are.  The time for hopeful wishes and goodwill has passed, they had their chance and failed.</p>
<p>Here is the real deal.  YOU may be done fighting, and declaring peace all you want . . . but that doesn&#8217;t mean your enemy is going to.  So while you are declaring peace, they are running over you with a tank.</p>
<p>We are humans.  We kill each other.  We kill other things.  This is what we do, better to just get used to it.  Trying to save the world will slowly destroy you.</p>
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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/why-all-of-our-efforts-won%e2%80%99t-stop-the-attack-on-iran/#comment-20419</link>
		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baboo:
Thank you very much for your suggestion, a consumer strike focused against companies is a good one. We can target COFFEE HOUSES and other companies that people think is good as target to send a message that the world is not going to accept a corrupt system based on TERROR anymore and demand the war criminals who are sitting in certain capitals to be removed from power and brought  to justice.
Other people have raised the same concern about labor strike and one has given this suggestion:

In light of the terrible economic situation in the US, and the fact that many employees may be salaried, a labor strike may not go down too well.
 Something that worked well, from a social movement study course I took, was peaceful ‘anarchy’.   On a given day/date, city, many, many people went to Best Buys (this is one of the examples, Home Depot and other stores could be targeted), dressed in a dark blue T-Shirt and Tan shorts and just hung around for hours.  This caused a great deal of confusion as each time a customer wanted help, they would go to one of these ‘protestors’ , and find that they were just another customer.  The store was in virtual lockdown, yet they could not ask these people to leave simply for wearing dark blue shirts and shorts!
 The same could be done with Home Depot, OSH and other places.  
 With the help from the internet, this can be done worldwide.  Even 3-4 hour window is good, a day that is  ripe for shopping. 

Please give your suggestions and I am looking forward to see your input as soon as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baboo:<br />
Thank you very much for your suggestion, a consumer strike focused against companies is a good one. We can target COFFEE HOUSES and other companies that people think is good as target to send a message that the world is not going to accept a corrupt system based on TERROR anymore and demand the war criminals who are sitting in certain capitals to be removed from power and brought  to justice.<br />
Other people have raised the same concern about labor strike and one has given this suggestion:</p>
<p>In light of the terrible economic situation in the US, and the fact that many employees may be salaried, a labor strike may not go down too well.<br />
 Something that worked well, from a social movement study course I took, was peaceful ‘anarchy’.   On a given day/date, city, many, many people went to Best Buys (this is one of the examples, Home Depot and other stores could be targeted), dressed in a dark blue T-Shirt and Tan shorts and just hung around for hours.  This caused a great deal of confusion as each time a customer wanted help, they would go to one of these ‘protestors’ , and find that they were just another customer.  The store was in virtual lockdown, yet they could not ask these people to leave simply for wearing dark blue shirts and shorts!<br />
 The same could be done with Home Depot, OSH and other places.<br />
 With the help from the internet, this can be done worldwide.  Even 3-4 hour window is good, a day that is  ripe for shopping. </p>
<p>Please give your suggestions and I am looking forward to see your input as soon as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/why-all-of-our-efforts-won%e2%80%99t-stop-the-attack-on-iran/#comment-20416</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about animals?
Are &#039;they&#039; still expendable?
Before we can claim a rise to the nobility of human decency, we had better stop killing. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about animals?<br />
Are &#8216;they&#8217; still expendable?<br />
Before we can claim a rise to the nobility of human decency, we had better stop killing. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Pieniazek</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/why-all-of-our-efforts-won%e2%80%99t-stop-the-attack-on-iran/#comment-20401</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Pieniazek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 11:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tired of hearing, so I&#039;m just doing from now.

@Brian Koontz &amp; mike wegrzyn

I&#039;m right there with the both of you.

We &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adampieniazek.com/personal-achievements/war-on-terror-ends/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ended the War on Terror &lt;/a&gt;a few days ago by declaring we are not terrified. Up next is instituting world peace by declaring we are not at war. My allegiance is owed to a moral goodness, not a country built on killing Native Americans, Mexicans, blacks and now Muslims. The jig is up America, stop killing people.

What we need is one global government, a &lt;b&gt;new world order&lt;/b&gt; and we need to start and implement one before “they” [the current power-elite] beat us to it.

Next week, we&#039;re declaring world peace. Let it be known, if you&#039;re killing human beings, it&#039;s not for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tired of hearing, so I&#8217;m just doing from now.</p>
<p>@Brian Koontz &amp; mike wegrzyn</p>
<p>I&#8217;m right there with the both of you.</p>
<p>We <a href="http://www.adampieniazek.com/personal-achievements/war-on-terror-ends/" rel="nofollow">ended the War on Terror </a>a few days ago by declaring we are not terrified. Up next is instituting world peace by declaring we are not at war. My allegiance is owed to a moral goodness, not a country built on killing Native Americans, Mexicans, blacks and now Muslims. The jig is up America, stop killing people.</p>
<p>What we need is one global government, a <b>new world order</b> and we need to start and implement one before “they” [the current power-elite] beat us to it.</p>
<p>Next week, we&#8217;re declaring world peace. Let it be known, if you&#8217;re killing human beings, it&#8217;s not for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Baboo</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/why-all-of-our-efforts-won%e2%80%99t-stop-the-attack-on-iran/#comment-20380</link>
		<dc:creator>Baboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 02:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO a consumer strike focused against paricular companies would be more effective and realistic than a labor strike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO a consumer strike focused against paricular companies would be more effective and realistic than a labor strike.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McNiven</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/why-all-of-our-efforts-won%e2%80%99t-stop-the-attack-on-iran/#comment-20373</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McNiven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor Leupp,

US foreign policy is an extension of its sexist/ racist  inhumane domestic policies! You need to demand from your government, as a minimum, an immediate and full implementation of the Universal Declarations of the Human Rights in the US! At the same time, you need to campaign for a Mc Kinney/ Nader presidential ticket!  ( a Libertarian just entered the race, which means that it is not too late YET! ) The whole planet is suffering! 
Justice at home/ Justice abroad NOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Leupp,</p>
<p>US foreign policy is an extension of its sexist/ racist  inhumane domestic policies! You need to demand from your government, as a minimum, an immediate and full implementation of the Universal Declarations of the Human Rights in the US! At the same time, you need to campaign for a Mc Kinney/ Nader presidential ticket!  ( a Libertarian just entered the race, which means that it is not too late YET! ) The whole planet is suffering!<br />
Justice at home/ Justice abroad NOW!</p>
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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/why-all-of-our-efforts-won%e2%80%99t-stop-the-attack-on-iran/#comment-20363</link>
		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ali:
Thank you for your attention.  Labor Strike must be organized by labor movement, anti war movement and other social and political organization nationwide as soon as possible.   These criminals know that they have taken the world population hostage through economic arrangements, misinformation, terrorism,  support of individuals with no memory of their own history and culture through trash entertainment and “education” at  elite schools  in the west to establish the dominant culture as “universal”, to bring different groups under the same umbrella to use their language skills  to overthrow governments around the world to strengthen GLOBALIZATION which is nothing but hegemony of elites over lives of other people in the world to divide the world population into two groups: elite group as the “producer” and the rest of us as consumers if people can afford it.  This is not a religious war.  Masonic or not, everyone must know the fight is for expansion of economic power and control of resources through map change and therefore, to have cultural and political advantages.  To have hegemony over the world population they are willing to use any means possible to bring the world under control after they obliterate those who resist modern slavery system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ali:<br />
Thank you for your attention.  Labor Strike must be organized by labor movement, anti war movement and other social and political organization nationwide as soon as possible.   These criminals know that they have taken the world population hostage through economic arrangements, misinformation, terrorism,  support of individuals with no memory of their own history and culture through trash entertainment and “education” at  elite schools  in the west to establish the dominant culture as “universal”, to bring different groups under the same umbrella to use their language skills  to overthrow governments around the world to strengthen GLOBALIZATION which is nothing but hegemony of elites over lives of other people in the world to divide the world population into two groups: elite group as the “producer” and the rest of us as consumers if people can afford it.  This is not a religious war.  Masonic or not, everyone must know the fight is for expansion of economic power and control of resources through map change and therefore, to have cultural and political advantages.  To have hegemony over the world population they are willing to use any means possible to bring the world under control after they obliterate those who resist modern slavery system.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/why-all-of-our-efforts-won%e2%80%99t-stop-the-attack-on-iran/#comment-20360</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never ceased to be amazed at these websites! I&#039;ve heard some good ideas from time to time for taking back our country and our freedom. But the one thing I&#039;ve never seen, the one vitally necessary thing, is for someone to say: &quot;You are right about that, so let&#039;s plan to gather with others who agree on this course of action as soon as possible and begin taking it to the streets! The game is on--no more discussion--it&#039;s time to move! Where should we meet?&quot;
The rulers know that isn&#039;t going to happen. They can afford to let us bitch until doomsday (literally!) Talk is cheap. I&#039;m guilty and so are you. So until we&#039;re all ready to begin agreeing and then acting on a plan, nothing changes. The closest we ever get to a concerted effort is voting for president. You&#039;d think they would die from laughter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never ceased to be amazed at these websites! I&#8217;ve heard some good ideas from time to time for taking back our country and our freedom. But the one thing I&#8217;ve never seen, the one vitally necessary thing, is for someone to say: &#8220;You are right about that, so let&#8217;s plan to gather with others who agree on this course of action as soon as possible and begin taking it to the streets! The game is on&#8211;no more discussion&#8211;it&#8217;s time to move! Where should we meet?&#8221;<br />
The rulers know that isn&#8217;t going to happen. They can afford to let us bitch until doomsday (literally!) Talk is cheap. I&#8217;m guilty and so are you. So until we&#8217;re all ready to begin agreeing and then acting on a plan, nothing changes. The closest we ever get to a concerted effort is voting for president. You&#8217;d think they would die from laughter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/why-all-of-our-efforts-won%e2%80%99t-stop-the-attack-on-iran/#comment-20356</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shabnam:
I really appreciate you have the courage to write all this in detail with referecnce. Definitely we (all sensible people living in US) should hand together to strike and force these axis of evil to stop. But remember this is masonic agenda or something else and they are dying to achive their goals............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shabnam:<br />
I really appreciate you have the courage to write all this in detail with referecnce. Definitely we (all sensible people living in US) should hand together to strike and force these axis of evil to stop. But remember this is masonic agenda or something else and they are dying to achive their goals&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hope  that  educating  people is  not  a failure.  i&#039;m somewhat disappointed  ab. labeling   education  &quot;bitching&quot;, etc.
education along with  accurate/adequate information  is  important.
in this connection, may be all wars  start  with words. thus, in order  to have  fewer wars; less  child molesting, raping, lying , etc., perforce, we must begin the trek with the words.
&quot;exposing  wrongs  is not enough&quot;  some say.  but exposing (elucidating a sit&#039;n)  is more than of zero value. it has  some value.  
slavery  had been abolished. words were spoken  against it
we now want  better  governance. just saying this  for the first  time ever  in such numbers (what, 5mn, 2mn in US) is  a resounding success
for the first  time in US  history  a man  is  running for  presidency  who  is going  to represent   working class.
and  nader  might just  get  5-10%   od the votes. what  an   awsome begining. thank u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hope  that  educating  people is  not  a failure.  i&#8217;m somewhat disappointed  ab. labeling   education  &#8220;bitching&#8221;, etc.<br />
education along with  accurate/adequate information  is  important.<br />
in this connection, may be all wars  start  with words. thus, in order  to have  fewer wars; less  child molesting, raping, lying , etc., perforce, we must begin the trek with the words.<br />
&#8220;exposing  wrongs  is not enough&#8221;  some say.  but exposing (elucidating a sit&#8217;n)  is more than of zero value. it has  some value.<br />
slavery  had been abolished. words were spoken  against it<br />
we now want  better  governance. just saying this  for the first  time ever  in such numbers (what, 5mn, 2mn in US) is  a resounding success<br />
for the first  time in US  history  a man  is  running for  presidency  who  is going  to represent   working class.<br />
and  nader  might just  get  5-10%   od the votes. what  an   awsome begining. thank u</p>
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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/why-all-of-our-efforts-won%e2%80%99t-stop-the-attack-on-iran/#comment-20347</link>
		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Majority of people here believe that ENOUGH is ENOUGH and we must do something. Then why don’t we arrange nationwide labor (working people) strike to bring the axis of evil, US – Israel – Britain down once and for all.  Financial loss is the only weapon we  have and the most powerful.  If we stop working and demand the US and Britain forces get out of the Middle East including Iraq what are we going to lose?  I’m sure nothing but our CHAINs.  This can be done through Internet.  The strike should be arranged in Britain who started the evil empire 500 years ago and their extension the United States.  Please hurry up. We have to stop these war criminals at once and put them out of their misery with the same method these criminals have used to take out their puppet at one time who turned enemy at later time, SADDAM.  They must get the same medicine as they have given to so many people for the last 500 years.  If we don’t bring them down they will kill us all.  The condition of the world shows it all.  There is nothing but HUNGER and WAR.  We need different arrangement other than the current
world system which is nothing but MODERN SLAVERY. Down with the evil empire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Majority of people here believe that ENOUGH is ENOUGH and we must do something. Then why don’t we arrange nationwide labor (working people) strike to bring the axis of evil, US – Israel – Britain down once and for all.  Financial loss is the only weapon we  have and the most powerful.  If we stop working and demand the US and Britain forces get out of the Middle East including Iraq what are we going to lose?  I’m sure nothing but our CHAINs.  This can be done through Internet.  The strike should be arranged in Britain who started the evil empire 500 years ago and their extension the United States.  Please hurry up. We have to stop these war criminals at once and put them out of their misery with the same method these criminals have used to take out their puppet at one time who turned enemy at later time, SADDAM.  They must get the same medicine as they have given to so many people for the last 500 years.  If we don’t bring them down they will kill us all.  The condition of the world shows it all.  There is nothing but HUNGER and WAR.  We need different arrangement other than the current<br />
world system which is nothing but MODERN SLAVERY. Down with the evil empire.</p>
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		<title>By: BumperSticker</title>
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		<dc:creator>BumperSticker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 08:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have reached a point where simply &#039;exposing&#039; anything is not enough.  I&#039;ve listened to Mr. Nader talk in the past about this being why he runs for President.  Because once he could accomplish good by simply exposing what was wrong.  From that, the press and the machinery of a democratic government would tackle the problem.  That stopped being true, probably back in the nineties somewhere.  &quot;Exposing&quot; a problem is no longer enough, as the various agencies of the society no longer work to solve problems that are &#039;exposed&#039;.

We&#039;ve all been &#039;exposed&#039; to plenty.  We all know what&#039;s going on.  Now its time do something.  A much better title for the piece would have been.  &quot;Why doing the same things we&#039;ve been doing before won&#039;t stop the attack on Iran.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have reached a point where simply &#8216;exposing&#8217; anything is not enough.  I&#8217;ve listened to Mr. Nader talk in the past about this being why he runs for President.  Because once he could accomplish good by simply exposing what was wrong.  From that, the press and the machinery of a democratic government would tackle the problem.  That stopped being true, probably back in the nineties somewhere.  &#8220;Exposing&#8221; a problem is no longer enough, as the various agencies of the society no longer work to solve problems that are &#8216;exposed&#8217;.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all been &#8216;exposed&#8217; to plenty.  We all know what&#8217;s going on.  Now its time do something.  A much better title for the piece would have been.  &#8220;Why doing the same things we&#8217;ve been doing before won&#8217;t stop the attack on Iran.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BumperSticker</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/why-all-of-our-efforts-won%e2%80%99t-stop-the-attack-on-iran/#comment-20344</link>
		<dc:creator>BumperSticker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 08:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I read this, a message from a bumper sticker came to mind .... &quot;Quit bitching, and start a revolution!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read this, a message from a bumper sticker came to mind &#8230;. &#8220;Quit bitching, and start a revolution!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/why-all-of-our-efforts-won%e2%80%99t-stop-the-attack-on-iran/#comment-20335</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 02:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Halle you&#039;re so right.  I think most writers of politics succeed in presenting a text that is not about themselves, and that&#039;s just  success enough in these times.   The blank content can be filled from one end of the political spectrum to the other.    But the point is to change the world, not be able to remove yourself from a piece of writing.

I started blinking my headlights when overtaking and passing long-haul truckers in the daytime two months ago, because I read somewhere that it was a &quot;Support the Union &quot; signal.  And I  tried for several months last year to convince the military obituary department of the Los Angeles Times to include in their obits SOMEthing about whether the deceased had spoken to his/her family about opposition to the Iraq War or had belonged to an organization opposing the war.   I approached five of my adjacent neighbors last year with literature about Black Agenda Report, and intended to do a journalistic piece about that experience, but realized journalists have to Know Things in order to get people to be forthcoming.    And just last week, I blew a fuse with &quot;my&quot; primary care physician before noticing he&#039;d left the door open, and I passed through a very quiet waiting room of mainly more elderly and ill people than myself on the way out.  

Considering the manifest failures of associative endeavors to accomplish anything, I feel almost proud of these totally individualistic efforts and that one loss of temper (among many).   And what&#039;s really galling is the realization that -- just like there&#039;s a radical story under EVERYthing, which can be discovered, there&#039;s radical potential all around us all the time.  MORE radical potential than ever before in many, many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Halle you&#8217;re so right.  I think most writers of politics succeed in presenting a text that is not about themselves, and that&#8217;s just  success enough in these times.   The blank content can be filled from one end of the political spectrum to the other.    But the point is to change the world, not be able to remove yourself from a piece of writing.</p>
<p>I started blinking my headlights when overtaking and passing long-haul truckers in the daytime two months ago, because I read somewhere that it was a &#8220;Support the Union &#8221; signal.  And I  tried for several months last year to convince the military obituary department of the Los Angeles Times to include in their obits SOMEthing about whether the deceased had spoken to his/her family about opposition to the Iraq War or had belonged to an organization opposing the war.   I approached five of my adjacent neighbors last year with literature about Black Agenda Report, and intended to do a journalistic piece about that experience, but realized journalists have to Know Things in order to get people to be forthcoming.    And just last week, I blew a fuse with &#8220;my&#8221; primary care physician before noticing he&#8217;d left the door open, and I passed through a very quiet waiting room of mainly more elderly and ill people than myself on the way out.  </p>
<p>Considering the manifest failures of associative endeavors to accomplish anything, I feel almost proud of these totally individualistic efforts and that one loss of temper (among many).   And what&#8217;s really galling is the realization that &#8212; just like there&#8217;s a radical story under EVERYthing, which can be discovered, there&#8217;s radical potential all around us all the time.  MORE radical potential than ever before in many, many years.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 01:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just in, Yahooo News:
&quot;Bush says world leaders should condemn......Myanmar junta&quot;  (my dots).

All right, folks, I give up.  The Israeli tail wags the dog.  Or is that not chutzpah in the Nth degree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just in, Yahooo News:<br />
&#8220;Bush says world leaders should condemn&#8230;&#8230;Myanmar junta&#8221;  (my dots).</p>
<p>All right, folks, I give up.  The Israeli tail wags the dog.  Or is that not chutzpah in the Nth degree?</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hp
thanx for explanation of   ur statement , &quot;We r not  russians&quot;.
russia  is wrong in keeping chechnya. i do not think russia is right in hounding  these people for  over  70yrs.  it  has  commited crimes against  humanity.
but i uphold russian right to be independent and free of  US  threats.
if one is to believe reports, russia has declared that it&#039;ll  use NW if attacked.  i don&#039;t blame her.  thanx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hp<br />
thanx for explanation of   ur statement , &#8220;We r not  russians&#8221;.<br />
russia  is wrong in keeping chechnya. i do not think russia is right in hounding  these people for  over  70yrs.  it  has  commited crimes against  humanity.<br />
but i uphold russian right to be independent and free of  US  threats.<br />
if one is to believe reports, russia has declared that it&#8217;ll  use NW if attacked.  i don&#8217;t blame her.  thanx</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are not going to drive far with gas at $4 a gallon and food prices soaring. They&#039;ll stay home (if they have one anymore) and watch American Idol and Entertainment Tonight and be further corrupted. Our government will now commence even more travesties in the unholy name of Zion.
I call on everyone to not do a dam thing for the Federal Government -- no taxes, no help, ignore anyone or anything that works for them in any capacity. Tell everyone and talk openly!
--INCOG MAN
http://incogman.wordpress.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are not going to drive far with gas at $4 a gallon and food prices soaring. They&#8217;ll stay home (if they have one anymore) and watch American Idol and Entertainment Tonight and be further corrupted. Our government will now commence even more travesties in the unholy name of Zion.<br />
I call on everyone to not do a dam thing for the Federal Government &#8212; no taxes, no help, ignore anyone or anything that works for them in any capacity. Tell everyone and talk openly!<br />
&#8211;INCOG MAN<br />
<a href="http://incogman.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://incogman.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: D.R. Munro</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.R. Munro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I leave for a little while and come back . . . and the rhetoric is still the same.

All you people calling for &quot;million man marches,&quot; and &quot;massive populist uprisings&quot; - fucking do something, or please just stop talking about it.  This idea grows weary, and the empty rhetoric even more so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I leave for a little while and come back . . . and the rhetoric is still the same.</p>
<p>All you people calling for &#8220;million man marches,&#8221; and &#8220;massive populist uprisings&#8221; &#8211; fucking do something, or please just stop talking about it.  This idea grows weary, and the empty rhetoric even more so.</p>
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		<title>By: John Halle</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Halle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Chomskyed out&quot; is an excellent term for what is essentially a clinical diagnosis. Namely, the completely irrational belief that merely &quot;exposing&quot; this or that official lie or covert program (0r even the entire panoply of them) will have any impact on a U.S. foreign policy committed to military aggression as a first resort. 

Unfortunately, the above contains only a single phrase which indicates that Leupp has given any thought as to what is required to combat, as opposed to merely critique the elite agenda, and it is precisely that which has massively failed: namely the &quot;mobiliz(ation) of mass demonstrations.&quot; As Leupp himself notes, the &quot;millions in the streets, peacefully demonstrating as the system encourages, didn’t prevent the assault on Iraq over five years ago.&quot;    

While he bemoans the comatose state of the movement now he seems oblivious to a good part of the explanation for it which is the movement leadership having recommended tactics-street protest and supporting Democratic candidates-which could and should have been predicted in advance to fail. Hence the widespread disillusionment and apathy.

Leupp is surely right that we are not now in a position to do anything about U.S. widening the score of its aggression into Iran.  If we don&#039;t begin focussing on the question of what the movement can do to rebuild its effectiveness, it is a sure bet that a Bush, and probably Obama administration will continue on its current catastrophic course.

I would hope that Mr. Leupp turn his formidable powers of analysis to the question of what is to be done to combat and not merely critique the elite agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Chomskyed out&#8221; is an excellent term for what is essentially a clinical diagnosis. Namely, the completely irrational belief that merely &#8220;exposing&#8221; this or that official lie or covert program (0r even the entire panoply of them) will have any impact on a U.S. foreign policy committed to military aggression as a first resort. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, the above contains only a single phrase which indicates that Leupp has given any thought as to what is required to combat, as opposed to merely critique the elite agenda, and it is precisely that which has massively failed: namely the &#8220;mobiliz(ation) of mass demonstrations.&#8221; As Leupp himself notes, the &#8220;millions in the streets, peacefully demonstrating as the system encourages, didn’t prevent the assault on Iraq over five years ago.&#8221;    </p>
<p>While he bemoans the comatose state of the movement now he seems oblivious to a good part of the explanation for it which is the movement leadership having recommended tactics-street protest and supporting Democratic candidates-which could and should have been predicted in advance to fail. Hence the widespread disillusionment and apathy.</p>
<p>Leupp is surely right that we are not now in a position to do anything about U.S. widening the score of its aggression into Iran.  If we don&#8217;t begin focussing on the question of what the movement can do to rebuild its effectiveness, it is a sure bet that a Bush, and probably Obama administration will continue on its current catastrophic course.</p>
<p>I would hope that Mr. Leupp turn his formidable powers of analysis to the question of what is to be done to combat and not merely critique the elite agenda.</p>
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