Comments on: Who Gets Totally Obliterated, Iran Or the US?

By: Robert Bennett

Robert Bennett — Wed, 07 May 2008 16:26:42 +0000

I fear any more “discussion” since the whole notion of the USA and UK being destroyed to save any one group is so filled with horror, how can anyone “discuss” this rationally? Our Anglo-American history does not
allow this nightmare as a possibility…What has gone wrong here? Talk about the tail wagging the dog! “Discission” at this level is insane and treason against the American people and the UK.

By: hp

hp — Sun, 04 May 2008 22:10:08 +0000

‘Evidence linking these Israelis to 911 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It is classified information.’

By: Al

Al — Sun, 04 May 2008 20:33:05 +0000

“The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight and die,” Mr. Clinton told the crowd at a fund- raising event for a Toronto Jewish charity Monday.

This from a draft dodger, who refused to fight for his own country.

By: denk

denk — Sun, 04 May 2008 02:26:41 +0000

hp
**Denk, yes they do. This is often highlighted by their conspicuous silence.**

hp,
me and you against the world

By: Mike McNiven

Mike McNiven — Sat, 03 May 2008 19:57:04 +0000

Catherine, please see the following site too:

http://www.globalwomenstrike.net

By: hp

hp — Sat, 03 May 2008 15:07:57 +0000

Denk, yes they do. This is often highlighted by their conspicuous silence.

By: denk

denk — Sat, 03 May 2008 14:47:41 +0000

Bizzy
**Why defend at all cost a country that disregards international law, ignores even the most weak attempts at peace with its neighbors, continues to expand it’s borders, constructs illegal open air prisons for palestinians, while submitting the people to countless atrocities and selective punishment? **

why — dont birds of the same feathers flock together ?

By: Giorgio

Giorgio — Sat, 03 May 2008 03:05:14 +0000

“GOOD LUCK, AMERICA !!!
ENJOY THE RIDE FOR AS LONG AS IT LASTS…..”

And may it LAST (as the Serfs of Zion), not for 100 years as McCain envisions, but for ONE THOUNSAND YEARS !!!

By: Giorgio

Giorgio — Sat, 03 May 2008 02:47:56 +0000

“That reminds me of the “five dancing Israelis” arrested when caught filming the 911 events as they happened. Jumping up and down celebrating.”

…and America and the world is already dancing to the zionist’s tune led by its cheerleader the present US government and Congress.

STILL HAVING DOUBTS ABOUT NOT SUPPORTING TO THE HILT RON PAUL???

Just an eye-opener for you: a few weeks ago I noticed on an European TV channel a documentary showing the HUGE underground bunkers the Israelis are building to “protect” them from a possible nuclear attack. A tunnel in it dwarfed in size a man walking along it. The fact mentioned about this was they kept absolutely secret its COST
(generously, I presume, subsidized by the American tax-payer) and the DEPTH below surface of these structures. Now one does not need to be a genius to see that what can be used “preventively” can also be used “offensively”…with a relatively small population a significant number of them can be sheltered in these bunkers. Can you imagine the advantages in power wielding this can bring?
OK, may be I’m overstreching the point…but DON’T underestimate these zionists: They smart, too smart, in fact, and very, very focussed… with personalities oozing out with loads and loads of chutzpath!!!

GOOD LUCK, AMERICA !!!
ENJOY THE RIDE FOR AS LONG AS IT LASTS…..

By: hp

hp — Fri, 02 May 2008 21:41:22 +0000

“Evidence linking these Israelis to 911 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It is classified.”

“Investigators within the DEA, INS and FBI have all told Fox news that to pursue or even suggest Israeli spying…is considered career suicide.”

All told, more than one hundred Israelis were arrested and sent back to Israel.
No trial, no Guantanamo, no nothing.

By: hp

hp — Fri, 02 May 2008 21:29:23 +0000

That reminds me of the “five dancing Israelis” arrested when caught filming the 911 events as they happened. Jumping up and down celebrating.
Know who released them back home to Israel?
Why none other than Federal Judge Michael Mukasey, now our US Attorney General.
An Israeli citizen.
There ought to be a law.

By: Shabnam

Shabnam — Fri, 02 May 2008 19:48:23 +0000

Mary:

Do you think readers of this site are that stupid not knowing what are the Zionists doing around the world? Do you think readers of this site are not aware of the Zionist advantages in holding so many platforms under their control for propaganda purposes?
The media Mogul, Rupert Murdoch, is on Zionist’s side. Do you think people do not know what is said on the Zionist media including FOX? The conventional media in Western and other countries are committed to spread Zionist propaganda.
You should be concerned about those limited platform remained stays for the alternative media and not to be used by the crypto Zionists. Majorities of the “left” in the west were under heavy influence of the Zionist “left” up to present and still are influent ional as “progressive” in the “peace” movements. Look at the neocon that all were from Trotskyite camp. While the “left” in the past was mainly under the Stalin umbrella in Iran now days are mainly under Trotskyite protection and have left the Zionst fight and in many cases have joined with Zionists, organization such as Kurdish Komoleh, the Communist workers party of Iran, the communist youth of Iran, the Hekmatist to fight on behalf of the Zionist against others and they have been accused of being in the pocket of Israel who receive funding from Israel.
If you want to surprise the reader of this site, I think the following is more suited and that is the decision made by “anti apartheid” South African Jewish Nobel Laureate, Nadine Gordimer, who has decided to attend the International Writer’s Festival in Jerusalem next month, despite intense pressure to boycott the event. She likes Jean Paul Sartre, might be against the oppression and massacre of other group but when it comes to the Zionst apartheid state they fail to deliver.

http://www.israelforum.com/blog_article.php?aid=1421528

By: mary

mary — Fri, 02 May 2008 16:36:32 +0000

I put it that article to give you some idea of how much of this venom is being spewed out in the UK press and media by journalists and commentators sympathetic to Israel and by politicians of all shades and at all levels, many of whom belong to Friends of Israel lobby groups inside the Houses of Parliament. A supine and sleeping population here is absorbing these views and there is little evidence of opposition or resistance to them. I think we are entering an extremely dangerous time with the risk of conflagration.

By: Shabnam

Shabnam — Fri, 02 May 2008 14:56:04 +0000

I don’t understand the reason behind mary’s “add to the discussion” post. This is not mary’s opinion rather a Zionist piece against Iran from ‘Jewish Chronicle’ which has been copied and pasted here to influence opinion. Don’t you think people can search for Zionist trash themselves? Or do you think Zionists don’t have enough propaganda platforms to neutralize the more balanced informative post of the
“left.”? I don’t understand why does dissidentvoice post such a piece full of lies here? Mary could have simply given the site instead of full length article for propaganda purposes. Does “Mary” think readers of this site are so naïve to let this happens? This is against “add to the discussion.” spirit. Please don’t abuse it and we expose Zionists who pose as a “progressive Jew.”
The Jewish Chronicle piece tries to keep the Zionist influence on American foreign policy intact using fears and propaganda tactics to wage another war in which Americans are actively involved in killing millions of innocent Iraqi, Somali, Pakistani, Afghani and many other peoples around the globe with their missiles Israeli style, “targeted assassination.” These atrocities should not and will not be easily forgotten and the victims definitely do the same when the opportunity arises. People of the world are fed up with the uncivilized actions and cooperation of the ignorant Americans, the racist Zionist Jews and their petty servants to kill millions of innocent people around the world and expect no reactions. People of the world are fed up with a foolish politician who is willing to obliterate more than 72 million Iranians to gain a few votes from the racist Zionists worst than fascists. Hillary thinks obliteration of Iranian people is a small price to pay to gain votes of those racists who designed and sold the destruction and massacre of Iraqi people during both administrations, Bush and Clinton, in which in the latter the Zionists pro Israel concentrated on strengthening US economic sanctions against Iran. In this pursuit, Martin Indyk, the head of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, an Israeli think tank, became instrumental. The rise of Martin Indyk to power in the Clinton Administration allowed him to carry on the policy of dual containment, which he took credit for devising, primarily by means of increasing sanctions against Iran and Iraq which caused more than 650,000 deaths in Iraq alone of whom majorities were children. This “small” price was worth it, the Zionist Secretary of States, Mad Albright told the world, to weaken both countries for the benefit of the apartheid state, not for the interest of American people, to set the stage for invasion and partition in these countries to create satellite state, such as “Kurdistan”, to help Israel to set the stage for Israel to expand its influence and power in the region with the help of the Kurdish terrorists as servants. The killing of Iraqi people was a small price to pay for the most pro Zionist administration, Clinton, to have full support of the Zionist lobby, the fifth column, on their side to help Hillary to be selected as servant of the Zionist for the senate from New York to support amendments beneficial to the Zionist interest such as Lieberman-Kyle amendment which labeled an army of a sovereign state, Iran, as a terrorist but leaves the apartheid state where is daily engaged in targeted assassination off the hook.
Why the AIPAC GIRL should make such a stupid remarks which is not in the interest of the United States especially when the US gives more than $4 billions each year to Israel and Israel has a strong influence on US foreign policy?
If Israel with advanced military equipments and several hundred, up to 600, bombs and strong financial support from wealthy Jews all over the world and strong political support from the “democratic” west including Sarkozy,Bernard Kouchner, Milliband and Bush can not defend herself against a country with no bomb, no arsenal matched with the Zionist’s weapons of mass destruction, WMD, no influence on the foreign policy of the empire, then why Hillary helps to transfer so many resources to an apartheid states to make her strong enough to have the upper hand to be engaged in daily killing of the indigenous population where these resources are urgently needed at home? How stupid one can get and expects to be elected? Now, it is very clear that to keep American population uninformed through shopping and breast augmentation or pines elongation is part of the deal to keep the status quo meaning constant supply of ignorant citizens for the implement- ation of the policy.
Thus it is American responsibility to be informed and politically active to prevent another Zionist war with their active participation, otherwise they will face the consequences of their government’s policy if they choose to remain silent. People of the world will not sit idle against the war crimes committed by a hegemonic power, Zionist Lobby and its ignorant citizens trying to satisfy the Zionist Jew’s appetite for blood , “71 percent of Israelis believe that the United States should launch a military attack on Iran…” and majority of the Zionist Jews in the US who are actively engaged in selling an attack on Iran through a campaign of lies and misinformation to remove obstacles against “the greater Israel” to be erected on ruins and death bodies of Muslims all over the globe. People will defend themselves, if that means the destruction of their enemies to survive.

By: Tony S.

Tony S. — Fri, 02 May 2008 14:35:04 +0000

I’ve always thought about those 150,000 American troops in Iraq. If the United States bombs Iran, might as well write those 150,000 troops off as dead, because they will be.

By: Alex

Alex — Fri, 02 May 2008 14:14:54 +0000

To Mary, thanks for your last post – my comments are below:

The Jewish state’s elder statesman, President Shimon Peres, implored the world to stop the eruption of a nuclear war before it began, saying turning a blind eye to Hitler in the 1930s had been a grave mistake.

“In my heart I am terrified when I recall there existed the possibility that Hitler might obtain a nuclear weapon,” he said.

“A leader who destroyed masses with a weapon of mass destruction, combined. What would have been left of our world then?”

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Yes, I am VERY concerned that a young 60 year old Middle Eastern nation, with a very aggressive history has WMDs and nukes at that. I can only hope that the respectable President Shimon Peres will ensure the world that his country will not start or instigate in any way a nuclear holocaust. This hope includes that Hillary Clinton and Israeli radical-right leaders stop threatening to ‘wipe out’ Iran, a peaceful nation that has not attacked anyone in over 250 years.

By: Alex

Alex — Fri, 02 May 2008 13:59:04 +0000

I have no access to the halls of power. But, feel free to walk with me a moment…

If you understand the rise and fall of Empires, or even played the game Civilization, Risk or even Chess, you will better understand the notion or why nations go to war. In other words, the world is one big chess board ‘the leaders’ are the chess masters and ‘the people’ are the chess pieces. The name of the game is to control the board. Thus, most of the world is actually color coded to be apart of one Empire or another either Russian, Anglo-American, Franco-German, China, etc. There are very few truly independant nations almost ever nation ‘belongs’ to an Empire.

Now, given this Empire mindset, let’s see how our American leaders are playing the game in a place on the board called the Middle East. If you look at the main players, they are from the Anglo-American Empire – that is how the nations in the Middle East are color coded. There was a military white paper after WW2 that entailed the Anglo-American Empires plan on dominating the Middle East one piece or country at a time. The only countries that have yet to be dominated as per this military white paper are Syria, Iran and Southern Lebanon. Everything else went according to the plan in the white paper with the exception of ‘losing’ Iran in 1979 when the Iranians took back their country.

Does this clear up any confusion as to the intend of American policy in the Middle East? How many countries does the Anglo-American Empire ‘control’?

By: bozhidar balkas

bozhidar balkas — Fri, 02 May 2008 12:22:11 +0000

i thank my devil that sephardim are not raping palestinian women. i think they are forbidden to do that because they are arabushim; i.e., vile, primitive, etc., in the eyes of blue-eyed euro-khazaro-semitic people.
i wish i had more good news for u.

By: mary

mary — Fri, 02 May 2008 10:35:35 +0000

This was in The Australian yesterday:

“Who would have believed that 63 years later, hatred of Jews and Israelis would rear its ugly head in so many different places around the globe, provocatively and venomously, inciting hatred?” he said.

“In my heart I am terrified when I recall there existed the possibility that Hitler might obtain a nuclear weapon,” he said.

“A leader who destroyed masses with a weapon of mass destruction, combined. What would have been left of our world then?”

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23630051-2703,00.html
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Words cannot describe my contempt for Israeli politicians, here cynically using the holocaust for political purposes, while they themselves are committing a holocaust on the Palestinians and are provoking a similar fate for the Iranians.

By: bozhidar balkas

bozhidar balkas — Thu, 01 May 2008 23:19:10 +0000

sadly that alsomuch of christian and european world eggs on US/IOF to attack iran.
iran has had time to buy a nuclear bomb. if it did acquire one or several, then the question arises can iran use them if atacked by nuclear weapons? surely, russians knows there is no more natinalism; no laws; there is now question of surviaval. and what cornerd ‘rat’ might do, nobody dares even talk about.
this euro-khazaro-semitic people are holding us hostages; its dream, becoming our nightmare.
iran can aslo close hormuz strait by sinking tankers.
it’s just too risky to attack iran. it’s also cowardly/immoral/ilegal. thank u