I disagree. It is because there is still a “viable” middle class is the reason why there is no movement in the U.S. When this middle class become less and less viable then you’ll see movement. This is one of the key reasons you are seeing such energy behind Obama. Mind you I not saying it is the kind the movement that lead to any substantive change but it is energy nonetheless due to current conditions.

One of the main reason they are actively recruited is that yes they can “make more money” but are usually paid less than American workers of comparable skills. Since many educated workers are NOT unionized it is easy for companies to maintain lower wages by recruiting foreign workers. Also recruiting foreign workers is also due to “shortages” because advanced degrees are too expensive to achieve in the U.S. Therefore recruiting foreign workers whose education is in many cases subsided by their home countries taxpayers tantamount to “thief” especially when the U.S. refuses to fully subsidize the education and training of their citizens or establish criteria that prevents taxpayers from receiving that needed education or training or employ.

“Educated” workers nearly always come to the US on an H1-B visa with hopes of staying permanently. Some may be b/c of US involvement in their own countries, but most simply b/c they can make more money in the US than they can at home – often from countries the US has not invaded – China, India, the old Soviet Socialist countries. Educated workers are actively recruited by large corporations.

The spin from the “right” is the US needs foreign workers to do the jobs Americans won’t do or are too lazy to do, or in the words of President Fox – “Mexicans do jobs not even blacks will do”. The spin from the “left” is they’re all refugees b/c of US imperialism. Both bullshit.

It’s empire’s way of breaking unions and the middle class b/c revolutions are usually instigated and lead by the middle classes – and for those who cannot connect dots, the lack of a viable middle class may be why there are no genuine “movements” in the US today.

What’s truly ignorant is the same mass immigration do-gooders would be extremely pissed off if there were 12-20,000,000 illegal BLACK folks crossing the border every few years. They would NOT be translating everything in town into Swahili or Zulu and creating “sanctuary cities” or demanding rights and amnesty for their new found friends. The US will arrest, detain, and deport illegal black immigrants without sympathy from any quarter.

And I got news for you honey – if anyone deserves immigrating to the US it is Africans.

Those who defend expanding the number of field hands on the USA plantation through illegal immigrants, hence making wage slaves of nearly all citizens, are the “agents.” Or are the new arrivals, lighter skinned, who feel it’s great to bitch about the same “empire” they demand the right to live and work in.

Oops, is it politically correct to say “illegal immigrants” ? I believe there’s a bumper sticker that says something about no humans are illegal. I’m pretty sure “illegal aliens” is no longer p.c.

Ignorant “working citizens” who have worked as a US agent in other countries to gather information on citizens of other countries have learned nothing about reason behind immigration. These ignorant agents must know that no one wants to leave their countries of origin but due to Modern slavery system, neolibral capitalism, with the leadership of the United States since WWII, people have been forced to leave their roots behind in search of jobs to avoid war and hunger at home which has been spread all over the world. Many people have become refugees due to invasion and mass killing of the population by the empire mercenaries, the soldiers, to occupy new territories and steal their resources such as Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan, Iraq, where Iraq has more than 4.5 million people as refugees and over a million and half as displaced people within the country yet these ignorant US agents are not able to understand that these victims of the US imperialism are not here for “WHITE WOMEN”, they are here because survival of the system is based on an army of poor and unemployed who own nothing and therefore have to work to survive since their Natural resources are shipped to rich countries to support the status quo and keep the rich and poor scenario unchanged providing those ignorant agents and mercenaries jobs, spying and killing, to expand their influence and power through war economy with the support of ignorant citizens. These ignorant people think that capitalism is WORKING and that’s why the empire wants s to expand the wealth to others. In fact, the situation is reverse. Since the wealth is based on cheap LABOR and NATURAL RESOURCES and human capital, the empire constantly creating destabilization in the targeted countries to make life unbearable for the population and therefore to push these countries’ educated workers to immigrate. This situation is very desirable because the rich countries have constant pool of educated workers, the human capital, without spending a penny available to them to have the upper hand over others.

When we defend the human rights of such folks, we are acknowledging that the US is complicit in creating the very conditions which created that desperation.

The people of Guatemala, for example, are still affected by the thrity-year civil war which was largely funded by the United States.

Working people in the US can either react to the right-wing analysis that migrants are lowering wages and destroying the fabric of US society, or find common cause with other exploited subjects of neoliberal capitalism.

When workers with citizenship scapegoat workers without it, obviously we have taken our eyes off the real problem.

More and more workers in the US are looking for common cause with migrants now. The May 1 West Coast actions this year consciously brought together dockworkers and migrant workers in a broad anti-war and pro-migrant and workers’ rights action.

I don’t believe we have a genuine political body for and by the people in the US, or anywhere for that matter.

You said “So, when the “left” or liberals or whatever they’re called, chant there are no illegal humans and demand sympathy and support for millions of immigrants, I gotta wonder if Joe Do-gooder realizes he’s helping to put one more nail in his own coffin. ”
I agree with you 100%. That was my opinion too.
You are right too pointing out that the influx of illegal immigrants will weaken the working class and rediret their energy from struggling for their rights to struggling with illegal immigrants for jobs and resources.
Now I am wondering if those “leftists” and “liberals” are nothing but
agents provocateurs for for the super rich. Most of those “liberals” and
“leftists” adore Israel which is he epitome of reaction, exclusion and
oppression. They are what I call the phony left.
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Yes, ruling class, dem/rep.

Another reason I believe this influx has happened is it dilutes the cohesion of the masses and has been another method to strip established working class Americans of power. Millions of new arrivals and first generation, are in no position, nor do they feel a need, to make political change – other than perhaps amnesty for themselves, friends, family.

Down the road from me are 5 Guatemalan men who live together. They stop for a beer with me sometimes and I can practice my Spanish. Having lived in Guatemala I know where they’re coming from. They all have families back home they miss a lot, they are all in their 30s. They could care less about what’s going on politically in the US, the wars, etc. and would like to see an open border. Two of them have a baby by white girls – they seem to have a thing for white women. They party a lot every weekend but stop the music at a decent hour. I hold no ill-will for them.

I don’t think my 5 friends are exceptions but are typical of millions of immigrants. It occurred to me that what may seem politically oppressive/repressive to Joe Blow still feels like freedom to Jose – considering his reference point.

So, when the “left” or liberals or whatever they’re called, chant there are no illegal humans and demand sympathy and support for millions of immigrants, I gotta wonder if Joe Do-gooder realizes he’s helping to put one more nail in his own coffin. The “left”/liberals like to point to BushCo as a tinpot dictator and compare his reign to a banana republic – but they go right along in bananacizing the social fabric under the guise of feel-good big-heartedness.

If the corrupt governments south of the border would get out of bed with the US and work for their own citizens – most immigrants would not leave home.

Of course, what I’ve said may not be politically correct, so Bob Kneejerk can say I’m a bigot, racist, mean, etc., in an attempt to whip me back into the herd.

“One thing they can usually count on is the average American does not want to admit to the rung of the social ladder he’s standing on – especially the lower rungs. Snob appeal.”

That’s not true. It’s only elite propaganda that “informs” the American populace of their greatness – the average American is quite aware that those “high on the social ladder” are largely criminals and/or complicit with a criminal system.

The truth about the “social ladder” is closer to the inverse of what the elite say it is.

Those “low on the social ladder” for the most part want to be there. What they don’t want, however, is poverty and the many repercussions of such.

That is to say, they want education, empowered work, socialist wealth, and a moral society to surround them.

In the present society, they want to exist “low on the social ladder” since that is the farthest distance from the criminals who define the ladder.

Snob appeal appeals only to snobs.

I’d say it’s about a stand-off btw trailer trash (stereotyped as all white) and liberals, made-into-scapegoats-wise. Or do I confuse liberals with “the left?”

No, I haven’t read Redneck Manifesto. I’m DV-challenged, for proper knives and fork’s sake!

To evie,
Actually the privliged rich class and the Republicans who want to open the border for mass iflux of immigrants. That will guarantee an endless supply of cheap and intimidated labour for businesses.

To evie,
Actuall the privliged rich class and the Republicans who want to open the border for the mass iflux of immigrants. That will guarantee an endless supply of cheap and intimidated labour for businesses.