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	<title>Comments on: Slaughterhouse Raid Shows Price of Cheap Meat</title>
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		<title>By: Bea Elliott</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/slaughterhouse-raid-shows-price-of-cheap-meat/#comment-31452</link>
		<dc:creator>Bea Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a look back at how Agriprocessor&#039;s abuses began and where they&#039;ve ended now... bankrupt, convicted and jailed... For the abuses to workers.  I&#039;m longing for the punishments of the crimes against the animals as well.

Iit&#039;s all so distasteful. It&#039;s an unforgiving cycle of victims - that the &quot;meat&quot; product puts us in. Man would do himself (and the animals) a world of good to evaluate the losses - and to go Vegan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a look back at how Agriprocessor&#8217;s abuses began and where they&#8217;ve ended now&#8230; bankrupt, convicted and jailed&#8230; For the abuses to workers.  I&#8217;m longing for the punishments of the crimes against the animals as well.</p>
<p>Iit&#8217;s all so distasteful. It&#8217;s an unforgiving cycle of victims &#8211; that the &#8220;meat&#8221; product puts us in. Man would do himself (and the animals) a world of good to evaluate the losses &#8211; and to go Vegan.</p>
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		<title>By: Bea Elliott</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/slaughterhouse-raid-shows-price-of-cheap-meat/#comment-22751</link>
		<dc:creator>Bea Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the cherry on the vegan cake regarding Agri-processor:
http://www.dsjv.com:80/2008/06/nation-file-agriprocessors-hires.html

They are currently recruiting replacement workers from the homeless population in Amerillo, Texas.  http://www.dsjv.com:80/2008/06/nation-file-agriprocessors-hires.html

Of course they will be offered the standard min wage of $6.00 an hour to do the most horrific of jobs that has a record of employee alcholism, depression, suicide and time spent in prisons.  I understand offering a hand up..... but with Agri-processor&#039;s past history of human and animal rights violations, it&#039;s exploitation and abuses - this whole &quot;hiring of the homeless&quot; leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the cherry on the vegan cake regarding Agri-processor:<br />
<a href="http://www.dsjv.com:80/2008/06/nation-file-agriprocessors-hires.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dsjv.com:80/2008/06/nation-file-agriprocessors-hires.html</a></p>
<p>They are currently recruiting replacement workers from the homeless population in Amerillo, Texas.  <a href="http://www.dsjv.com:80/2008/06/nation-file-agriprocessors-hires.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dsjv.com:80/2008/06/nation-file-agriprocessors-hires.html</a></p>
<p>Of course they will be offered the standard min wage of $6.00 an hour to do the most horrific of jobs that has a record of employee alcholism, depression, suicide and time spent in prisons.  I understand offering a hand up&#8230;.. but with Agri-processor&#8217;s past history of human and animal rights violations, it&#8217;s exploitation and abuses &#8211; this whole &#8220;hiring of the homeless&#8221; leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: anthony innes</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/slaughterhouse-raid-shows-price-of-cheap-meat/#comment-21498</link>
		<dc:creator>anthony innes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 00:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illegals  .IMPEACH  shrub and those in congress who take the corporate $  . Follow the money , IMPEACH the criminal management class if you want to eat and get your jobs back . The Corporation / Banksta filth are leading all of us to the slaughter house .Are you a nation of sheep being herded by the dogs of war . Defend your Constitution  . IMPEACH . 
ANY CANDIDATE NOT CALLING FOR IMPEACHMENT IS A TRAITOR WORKING FOR FOREIGN  BANKS AND THEIR CORPORATE FLUNKEYS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illegals  .IMPEACH  shrub and those in congress who take the corporate $  . Follow the money , IMPEACH the criminal management class if you want to eat and get your jobs back . The Corporation / Banksta filth are leading all of us to the slaughter house .Are you a nation of sheep being herded by the dogs of war . Defend your Constitution  . IMPEACH .<br />
ANY CANDIDATE NOT CALLING FOR IMPEACHMENT IS A TRAITOR WORKING FOR FOREIGN  BANKS AND THEIR CORPORATE FLUNKEYS.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim M</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/slaughterhouse-raid-shows-price-of-cheap-meat/#comment-21453</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 11:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad fact is that businesses and government, both ours and foreign governments, are conspiring to destroy the American middle class.

Make no mistake: they know that there will be a backlash against these immigrants.  In fact, they&#039;re counting on it.  It&#039;s the same control technique that has been used for thousands of years by the elite: keep people focused on an external threat so that they don&#039;t lay the blame on the internal threat, that being the elites.

Working class people from other countries come here because they are desperate.  Mexico is a failed modern state.  The government is a kleptocracy that stifles legitimate business and encourages crime and corruption.

People must realize that our common enemy is the rich bankers and the powerful investment houses in New York, London, and Brussels.  The only way for the people to regain power is to decentralize, remove themselves from dependence on bankers, develop barter systems, localize agriculture and return to heirloom seeds for biodiversity.  

Guerrilla gardening, energy self-sufficiency, promotion of mass transit, creation of community-based currency, like the Ithaca work-hours system, and other means of decentralization offer hope that we can divorce ourselves from this tragic, abusive system.

Think globally, act locally.  Start working within your community.  The banker&#039;s grand system is coming to a rapid halt very shortly.  The housing bust and the derivatives crisis are going to explode the world economy.  In the wake of this fiasco, the elites plan a massive, homicidal depopulation program and a martial law police state to sweep away the last vestiges of the U.S. constitutional republic.

Be prepared!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad fact is that businesses and government, both ours and foreign governments, are conspiring to destroy the American middle class.</p>
<p>Make no mistake: they know that there will be a backlash against these immigrants.  In fact, they&#8217;re counting on it.  It&#8217;s the same control technique that has been used for thousands of years by the elite: keep people focused on an external threat so that they don&#8217;t lay the blame on the internal threat, that being the elites.</p>
<p>Working class people from other countries come here because they are desperate.  Mexico is a failed modern state.  The government is a kleptocracy that stifles legitimate business and encourages crime and corruption.</p>
<p>People must realize that our common enemy is the rich bankers and the powerful investment houses in New York, London, and Brussels.  The only way for the people to regain power is to decentralize, remove themselves from dependence on bankers, develop barter systems, localize agriculture and return to heirloom seeds for biodiversity.  </p>
<p>Guerrilla gardening, energy self-sufficiency, promotion of mass transit, creation of community-based currency, like the Ithaca work-hours system, and other means of decentralization offer hope that we can divorce ourselves from this tragic, abusive system.</p>
<p>Think globally, act locally.  Start working within your community.  The banker&#8217;s grand system is coming to a rapid halt very shortly.  The housing bust and the derivatives crisis are going to explode the world economy.  In the wake of this fiasco, the elites plan a massive, homicidal depopulation program and a martial law police state to sweep away the last vestiges of the U.S. constitutional republic.</p>
<p>Be prepared!</p>
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		<title>By: duaner</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/slaughterhouse-raid-shows-price-of-cheap-meat/#comment-21425</link>
		<dc:creator>duaner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRS: geez, you seem awfully convinced that justice was done in the Rosenberg case. Her brother recanted, did you know that? Mind you, he was kind of old when he did, so maybe it was just senility. 

However, the larger question of treason is one that I&#039;d like to address. What is treason, anyway? In this case, these people allegedly sold information to another country that allowed it to develop the atom bomb much quicker than it otherwise might have. Is it treason to undermine your country if you are convinced that your country is doing wrong? 

I don&#039;t know for sure what the motivation was for the Rosenbergs: it might have been simply cash, or it might have also included the dreaded &quot;communist sympathies&quot;. If they seriously believed that Communism was the way to go, and that by helping the USSR to get the atom bomb they were keeping the hopes of world communism alive, then their act was more a political one than a military one.

Execution should never be an option for political crimes like treason, as one man&#039;s treason is another man&#039;s daring response to the perceived villainy of one&#039;s own country. To say that the Rosenbergs were punished appropriately is a gross overstatement. Killing is rarely ever the appropriate response, especially to a political act.

If someone sabotaged the war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, would that be a case of treason? Considering that both of these wars are basically illegal wars of agression, wouldn&#039;t &quot;treason&quot; of the sort that could lead to the end of these wars be the &quot;appropriate&quot; resonse? Should the perpetrators of such treason be executed for it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRS: geez, you seem awfully convinced that justice was done in the Rosenberg case. Her brother recanted, did you know that? Mind you, he was kind of old when he did, so maybe it was just senility. </p>
<p>However, the larger question of treason is one that I&#8217;d like to address. What is treason, anyway? In this case, these people allegedly sold information to another country that allowed it to develop the atom bomb much quicker than it otherwise might have. Is it treason to undermine your country if you are convinced that your country is doing wrong? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know for sure what the motivation was for the Rosenbergs: it might have been simply cash, or it might have also included the dreaded &#8220;communist sympathies&#8221;. If they seriously believed that Communism was the way to go, and that by helping the USSR to get the atom bomb they were keeping the hopes of world communism alive, then their act was more a political one than a military one.</p>
<p>Execution should never be an option for political crimes like treason, as one man&#8217;s treason is another man&#8217;s daring response to the perceived villainy of one&#8217;s own country. To say that the Rosenbergs were punished appropriately is a gross overstatement. Killing is rarely ever the appropriate response, especially to a political act.</p>
<p>If someone sabotaged the war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, would that be a case of treason? Considering that both of these wars are basically illegal wars of agression, wouldn&#8217;t &#8220;treason&#8221; of the sort that could lead to the end of these wars be the &#8220;appropriate&#8221; resonse? Should the perpetrators of such treason be executed for it?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Bubo</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/slaughterhouse-raid-shows-price-of-cheap-meat/#comment-21424</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Bubo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illegal immigration helps business increase profits, but those profits are not passed down to the consumer.  You can buy a pair of Nike sports shoes made for pennies per pair, but the retail cost puts a fabulous profit into the account of Mr. Knight.

Latin American immigrants lower wages for others.  White people do not want to room with six strangers to a bedroom and split the rent.   They want good wages to support families in an American lifestyle.   The immigrants make it impossible because they put downward pressure on salaries and benefits for everyone.  They bring their poverty with them and happily share it with the American public by lowering the lifestyle of the working class.  And then they exploit the stupid provision of the U.S. Constitution by having babies who are automatically US citizens and then they REALLY clamor to stay with their citizen children.  It is getting more and more difficult to even remove them from the country!   Americans better look across the border at Mexico and understand that that  is what we are becoming, and fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illegal immigration helps business increase profits, but those profits are not passed down to the consumer.  You can buy a pair of Nike sports shoes made for pennies per pair, but the retail cost puts a fabulous profit into the account of Mr. Knight.</p>
<p>Latin American immigrants lower wages for others.  White people do not want to room with six strangers to a bedroom and split the rent.   They want good wages to support families in an American lifestyle.   The immigrants make it impossible because they put downward pressure on salaries and benefits for everyone.  They bring their poverty with them and happily share it with the American public by lowering the lifestyle of the working class.  And then they exploit the stupid provision of the U.S. Constitution by having babies who are automatically US citizens and then they REALLY clamor to stay with their citizen children.  It is getting more and more difficult to even remove them from the country!   Americans better look across the border at Mexico and understand that that  is what we are becoming, and fast.</p>
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		<title>By: BRS</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/slaughterhouse-raid-shows-price-of-cheap-meat/#comment-21417</link>
		<dc:creator>BRS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both of my grandfathers, one uncle and many friends worked packing house jobs in Iowa prior to the 1980&#039;s.  In 1980 packing house wages were over ten dollars per hour.  Today they are far less than that.  Yet meat prices have risen all that time and continue to rise.  The cost of labor in the packing houses has nothing to do with the cost of meat.  It only enables higher profits and salaries for the executives.  The raids at Postville and Swift were long overdue.  All of the Iowa communities which have packing houses today have large numbers of illegal workers.  They also have high crime as these people do what they think they have to to live  and send money to their families.  People who break immigration laws break other laws as well.  This has been hard for me to accept but it is a fact.  The only problem with the raids is that they were fifteen years too late and have not extended to the executives of Swift, Tysons, Smithfield, Agri Processors and other companies who knowingly ignore the law.  These companies do not employ 60 percent or more illegal workers without the executives being aware or wilfully ignorant.  Just because I do not look at my speedometer does not make me innocent of speeding nor should it make the CEO&#039;s of these companies innocent of employing illegal workers.  They need to face long prison terms and the companies face huge fines.   The have sold out this country for profit and are just as much traitors as the Rosenberg&#039;s who sold the atomic bomb for money.  The Rosenberg&#039;s were punished appropriately.  These executives have not been.  The illegal immigrants should be sent back where they came from and fair and honest wages paid to people from this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both of my grandfathers, one uncle and many friends worked packing house jobs in Iowa prior to the 1980&#8242;s.  In 1980 packing house wages were over ten dollars per hour.  Today they are far less than that.  Yet meat prices have risen all that time and continue to rise.  The cost of labor in the packing houses has nothing to do with the cost of meat.  It only enables higher profits and salaries for the executives.  The raids at Postville and Swift were long overdue.  All of the Iowa communities which have packing houses today have large numbers of illegal workers.  They also have high crime as these people do what they think they have to to live  and send money to their families.  People who break immigration laws break other laws as well.  This has been hard for me to accept but it is a fact.  The only problem with the raids is that they were fifteen years too late and have not extended to the executives of Swift, Tysons, Smithfield, Agri Processors and other companies who knowingly ignore the law.  These companies do not employ 60 percent or more illegal workers without the executives being aware or wilfully ignorant.  Just because I do not look at my speedometer does not make me innocent of speeding nor should it make the CEO&#8217;s of these companies innocent of employing illegal workers.  They need to face long prison terms and the companies face huge fines.   The have sold out this country for profit and are just as much traitors as the Rosenberg&#8217;s who sold the atomic bomb for money.  The Rosenberg&#8217;s were punished appropriately.  These executives have not been.  The illegal immigrants should be sent back where they came from and fair and honest wages paid to people from this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/slaughterhouse-raid-shows-price-of-cheap-meat/#comment-21413</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is total garbage that &quot;they do the jobs that we won&#039;t do&quot;!!! When I was a teenager, the local slaughterhouse was one of the higher paying jobs in town. My adult children would LOVE to start a Lawn business, but illegals charge far less than they could afford to. Same thing for construction, I know quite a few construction workers who can&#039;t make a living at it anymore because they can&#039;t live on the lower wages that bosses can pay illegals. They aren&#039;t asking for enough money to buy a new corvette, but enough to make the mortgage without taking a second job would be nice. It&#039;s time to tell the truth: the illegal workers get jailed or deported, but the companies pay a fine smaller than the money they save by paying their next illegal work crew minimal wages. Jail the owners of the companies that hire them and see what happens! Why do you think there&#039;s no serious effort to close our borders? Because if the borders were closed then companies would start having to pay living wages again! Please note I didn&#039;t say any specific ethnic group, just people in our country ILLEGALLY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is total garbage that &#8220;they do the jobs that we won&#8217;t do&#8221;!!! When I was a teenager, the local slaughterhouse was one of the higher paying jobs in town. My adult children would LOVE to start a Lawn business, but illegals charge far less than they could afford to. Same thing for construction, I know quite a few construction workers who can&#8217;t make a living at it anymore because they can&#8217;t live on the lower wages that bosses can pay illegals. They aren&#8217;t asking for enough money to buy a new corvette, but enough to make the mortgage without taking a second job would be nice. It&#8217;s time to tell the truth: the illegal workers get jailed or deported, but the companies pay a fine smaller than the money they save by paying their next illegal work crew minimal wages. Jail the owners of the companies that hire them and see what happens! Why do you think there&#8217;s no serious effort to close our borders? Because if the borders were closed then companies would start having to pay living wages again! Please note I didn&#8217;t say any specific ethnic group, just people in our country ILLEGALLY!</p>
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