Comments on: How to Build a Human Bomb http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/how-to-build-a-human-bomb/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: John Wilkinson http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/how-to-build-a-human-bomb/#comment-20528 John Wilkinson Thu, 15 May 2008 22:24:54 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1999#comment-20528 "have u considered that Israel may be US’ 51st state. thus, occupation of palestine being an occupation by US?" again, how many times do i have to repeat this, israel is not the 51st state but the first and only state that matters. no other state really matters. how many times do you hear the word israel in congress, every hour on the hour, and how many times do you hear oregon or wisconsin. each and every one of our traitor politicians has to go over there and pledge allegiance to israel -- how many pledge allegiance to ny or delaware? we are their colony, that's all there is to it. and maybe we should start thinking about resistance in this occupied country. “have u considered that Israel may be US’ 51st state. thus, occupation of palestine being an occupation by US?”

again, how many times do i have to repeat this, israel is not the 51st state but the first and only state that matters. no other state really matters. how many times do you hear the word israel in congress, every hour on the hour, and how many times do you hear oregon or wisconsin. each and every one of our traitor politicians has to go over there and pledge allegiance to israel — how many pledge allegiance to ny or delaware? we are their colony, that’s all there is to it. and maybe we should start thinking about resistance in this occupied country.

]]> By: hp http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/how-to-build-a-human-bomb/#comment-20454 hp Wed, 14 May 2008 22:00:32 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1999#comment-20454 bozhidar, whether they resist passively or not, those rockets will keep flying and landing in Israeli grave yards and empty lots. Right on schedule..(wink wink) bozhidar, whether they resist passively or not, those rockets will keep flying and landing in Israeli grave yards and empty lots.
Right on schedule..(wink wink)

]]> By: evie http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/how-to-build-a-human-bomb/#comment-20450 evie Wed, 14 May 2008 21:15:01 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1999#comment-20450 As far as any of us know Al-Ajmi could also have been a jihadist from the git-go, or he may not have existed anywhere but in the minds of the War on Terror script writers. But orgasm is hard to come by when "journalism" includes fourth, third, and secondhand quotes from an anonymous goon "source" .... ooh aaah. As far as any of us know Al-Ajmi could also have been a jihadist from the git-go, or he may not have existed anywhere but in the minds of the War on Terror script writers.

But orgasm is hard to come by when “journalism” includes fourth, third, and secondhand quotes from an anonymous goon “source” …. ooh aaah.

]]> By: bozhidar balkas http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/how-to-build-a-human-bomb/#comment-20444 bozhidar balkas Wed, 14 May 2008 19:43:54 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1999#comment-20444 i am somewhat surprised that none of the commenters have written ab. the probability that US fears passive resistance more than military resistance of iraqi people? Israel also may fear a strong, unified passive resistance by pals more than military one!? i am basing my preferance for passive resistance on the fact that US has not lost a war yet. even in s.e. asia, the harvest was in ratio of 57td dead US soldiers to an estimated 3-6mn dead asians. i also have concluded that US will be a winner in iraq, regardless of what kind resistance by iraqis. by US, i mean a few million people will have amassed fortunes and important piece of real estate. and who do u think will write history of iraqi invasion/occupation? and who will teach it to children in schools? and who owns schools/education? and i do not think even for a second that ruling class regrets loss of soldiers. has anyone considered a possibility/probability that the ruling class is displeased with own soldiers for not having done da job? or even officers for not pushing soldiers to do more? and can we expect the rulers to shout all this from rooftops? thanx i am somewhat surprised that none of the commenters have written ab. the probability that US fears passive resistance more than military resistance of iraqi people?
Israel also may fear a strong, unified passive resistance by pals more than military one!?
i am basing my preferance for passive resistance on the fact that US has not lost a war yet.
even in s.e. asia, the harvest was in ratio of 57td dead US soldiers to an estimated 3-6mn dead asians.
i also have concluded that US will be a winner in iraq, regardless of what kind resistance by iraqis. by US, i mean a few million people will have amassed fortunes and important piece of real estate.
and who do u think will write history of iraqi invasion/occupation?
and who will teach it to children in schools?
and who owns schools/education?
and i do not think even for a second that ruling class regrets loss of soldiers.
has anyone considered a possibility/probability that the ruling class is displeased with own soldiers for not having done da job? or even officers for not pushing soldiers to do more?
and can we expect the rulers to shout all this from rooftops? thanx

]]> By: Chris Crass http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/how-to-build-a-human-bomb/#comment-20435 Chris Crass Wed, 14 May 2008 18:41:15 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1999#comment-20435 This isn't making an excuse, it's drawing a conclusion: Concentration camps tend to upset people to the point of reciprocal action. As far as I know, Al-Ajmi was just some guy the CIA decided they didn't like. Hell, the article includes this quote from some DIA goon: “maybe the guy who goes into Guantanamo was a farmer who got swept along and did very little. He’s going to come out a fully fledged jihadist.” This isn’t making an excuse, it’s drawing a conclusion: Concentration camps tend to upset people to the point of reciprocal action.
As far as I know, Al-Ajmi was just some guy the CIA decided they didn’t like.
Hell, the article includes this quote from some DIA goon: “maybe the guy who goes into Guantanamo was a farmer who got swept along and did very little. He’s going to come out a fully fledged jihadist.”

]]> By: hp http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/how-to-build-a-human-bomb/#comment-20414 hp Wed, 14 May 2008 16:45:24 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1999#comment-20414 The 'right' tells a man; 'if we see you walking down the road we'll run you over.' Then they run him over. The 'left' tells a man; 'if we see you walking down the road we won't run you over.' Then they run him over. The ‘right’ tells a man; ‘if we see you walking down the road we’ll run you over.’
Then they run him over.

The ‘left’ tells a man; ‘if we see you walking down the road we won’t run you over.’
Then they run him over.

]]> By: evie http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/how-to-build-a-human-bomb/#comment-20411 evie Wed, 14 May 2008 16:30:01 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1999#comment-20411 Nelson Mandela spent most of his 27 years illegally and brutally confined to a small cell, the floor his bed, a bucket for a toilet, and forced to do hard labor in a quarry. He was allowed one visitor a year for 30 minutes. He could write and receive one letter every six months. He did not become a killer on release. Nor did the doddering McCain return from a foreign prison to blow anyone up. Nor have hundreds if not thousands of Americans at home wrongly convicted and abused in prison murder others after eventually gaining their freedom. Making excuses for Abdallah Salih al-Ajmi is as repugnant as those who would torture. The only thing that has become clear to me is the "left" is as full of shit as the "right." Nelson Mandela spent most of his 27 years illegally and brutally confined to a small cell, the floor his bed, a bucket for a toilet, and forced to do hard labor in a quarry. He was allowed one visitor a year for 30 minutes. He could write and receive one letter every six months. He did not become a killer on release.

Nor did the doddering McCain return from a foreign prison to blow anyone up. Nor have hundreds if not thousands of Americans at home wrongly convicted and abused in prison murder others after eventually gaining their freedom.

Making excuses for Abdallah Salih al-Ajmi is as repugnant as those who would torture. The only thing that has become clear to me is the “left” is as full of shit as the “right.”

]]> By: bozhidar balkas http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/how-to-build-a-human-bomb/#comment-20405 bozhidar balkas Wed, 14 May 2008 13:58:34 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1999#comment-20405 mulga, hezbo's have the right to resist militarily israel's invasions. hezbos have shown that they can defeat or drive the invaders out. and i gladhand that. but israel is occupying most of palestine. u must have been awful angry to have equated an invasion with an occupation. actually, i affirm, that pals are morally and legally obligated to resist the occupation by any means whatsoever. but a resistance must of have a scintilla of hope to oust the occupiers or beat back invasions. czech have not resisted german invasion. russians have; justifiably so. i'm not condemning pals. i cannot urge them to resist occupation by military means; unless, of course they had wmd. have u considered that Israel may be US' 51st state. thus, occupation of palestine being an occupation by US? and u think pals can oust US/IOF? thank u mulga,
hezbo’s have the right to resist militarily israel’s invasions. hezbos have shown that they can defeat or drive the invaders out. and i gladhand that.
but israel is occupying most of palestine. u must have been awful angry to have equated an invasion with an occupation.
actually, i affirm, that pals are morally and legally obligated to resist the occupation by any means whatsoever.
but a resistance must of have a scintilla of hope to oust the occupiers or beat back invasions.
czech have not resisted german invasion. russians have; justifiably so.
i’m not condemning pals. i cannot urge them to resist occupation by military means; unless, of course they had wmd.
have u considered that Israel may be US’ 51st state. thus, occupation of palestine being an occupation by US?
and u think pals can oust US/IOF? thank u

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/how-to-build-a-human-bomb/#comment-20378 Mulga Mumblebrain Wed, 14 May 2008 01:10:14 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1999#comment-20378 bozhidar's analysis is, in my opinion, pure bunk. Passively resist violent, aggressive, racists like the Israelis and the US and they will simply massacre you the more readily. The first intifada showed that clearly enough. Arm and fight as Hezbollah and the resistance in Iraq have shown, and you have a chance. Imagine anyone advocating that the Soviets had 'passively resisted' the Nazi occupation? It is to laugh! bozhidar’s analysis is, in my opinion, pure bunk. Passively resist violent, aggressive, racists like the Israelis and the US and they will simply massacre you the more readily. The first intifada showed that clearly enough. Arm and fight as Hezbollah and the resistance in Iraq have shown, and you have a chance. Imagine anyone advocating that the Soviets had ‘passively resisted’ the Nazi occupation? It is to laugh!

]]> By: bozhidar balkas http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/how-to-build-a-human-bomb/#comment-20369 bozhidar balkas Tue, 13 May 2008 19:19:15 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1999#comment-20369 thanx george monbiot, i have been urging pals for yrs and iraqis since '03 not to resist militarily their respective occupations. as we now know, pals resistance has uttelry failed; their state all but gone. passive resistance might have also failed but may have been a better way to go. what US/IOF may fear the most is massive passive resistance; thus, continuous violence by IOF in order to provoke pals into any militancy. iraqi resistance will also fail. their resistance cannot be compared with partisan resistance. partisan resistance succeeded because empires also fought germans/italians. nobody is fighting US. thus, US cannot lose in iraq; if for no other reason than that of US ruling class writing the history and not a hobo, a housewife. actually, bush may yet receive accolades. thank u thanx george monbiot,
i have been urging pals for yrs and iraqis since ’03 not to resist militarily their respective occupations.
as we now know, pals resistance has uttelry failed; their state all but gone.
passive resistance might have also failed but may have been a better way to go.
what US/IOF may fear the most is massive passive resistance; thus, continuous violence by IOF in order to provoke pals into any militancy.
iraqi resistance will also fail. their resistance cannot be compared with partisan resistance. partisan resistance succeeded because empires also fought germans/italians.
nobody is fighting US. thus, US cannot lose in iraq; if for no other reason than that of US ruling class writing the history and not a hobo, a housewife.
actually, bush may yet receive accolades. thank u

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