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	<title>Comments on: Congress&#8217;s $3.5 million &#8220;Bake Sale&#8221; for the Boy Scouts</title>
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		<title>By: Big Pappa</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-22364</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Pappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure the BSA has done a lot of good for this country. Did I mention that I have been trying to get my son involved, but the BSA is activly discriminating against him for religious reasons? This is, clearly, an un-American policy.

The thing is, fathers, were the shoe on the other foot, and I am assuming that many posting here in support of the BSA are Christian, and an organization were operating inside of the public school system that excluded Christians from membership, you would be as fighting mad as I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure the BSA has done a lot of good for this country. Did I mention that I have been trying to get my son involved, but the BSA is activly discriminating against him for religious reasons? This is, clearly, an un-American policy.</p>
<p>The thing is, fathers, were the shoe on the other foot, and I am assuming that many posting here in support of the BSA are Christian, and an organization were operating inside of the public school system that excluded Christians from membership, you would be as fighting mad as I.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-21962</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also an Eagle Scout and currently volunteering to help other boys become better than they would otherwise be. 

The fundemental principle of the Scouting movement is serving others:

&quot;On my Honor I will do my best, to do my duty to God and  and to obey the Scout Law; to ; to keep myself physically fit, mentally awake and morally straight.&quot; 

On top of  that both the Star and Life Ranks require:

&quot;While a Star (or First Class) Scout, take part in service projects totaling at least six hours of work. These projects must be approved by your Scoutmaster.&quot;

The Boy Scouts of America has created a morally stable environment for boys to grow up in. It keeps them off the streets, it teaches them to make smart decisions about life, and most of all: it teaches them to help other people. 

Let me pose a question: When was the last time you had a boy, aged 10-17, help you in anyway and not ask for compensation? 

Anybody that wishes to have a negative opinion of the BSA is welcome to that opinion, but before making baseless accusations, research a bit more on what impact Scouting has had on America in the last 100 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also an Eagle Scout and currently volunteering to help other boys become better than they would otherwise be. </p>
<p>The fundemental principle of the Scouting movement is serving others:</p>
<p>&#8220;On my Honor I will do my best, to do my duty to God and  and to obey the Scout Law; to ; to keep myself physically fit, mentally awake and morally straight.&#8221; </p>
<p>On top of  that both the Star and Life Ranks require:</p>
<p>&#8220;While a Star (or First Class) Scout, take part in service projects totaling at least six hours of work. These projects must be approved by your Scoutmaster.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Boy Scouts of America has created a morally stable environment for boys to grow up in. It keeps them off the streets, it teaches them to make smart decisions about life, and most of all: it teaches them to help other people. </p>
<p>Let me pose a question: When was the last time you had a boy, aged 10-17, help you in anyway and not ask for compensation? </p>
<p>Anybody that wishes to have a negative opinion of the BSA is welcome to that opinion, but before making baseless accusations, research a bit more on what impact Scouting has had on America in the last 100 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-21631</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Tom F. who won&#039;t touch this coin: that&#039;s OK, I&#039;ll buy two extras to give my sons just for you, the same reason I bought 3 SKS &quot;evil&quot; guns for no other reason than Clinton banning them (still new in boxes- really would never have bought them without the ban).  To any thinkers it&#039;s clear that the U.S. is making my money back before Scouting gets a dime, so we&#039;re not establishing religion that way.  To any who think it&#039;s somehow BAD that adults who guide and help mold our youth should believe in God and not be homosexual- feel free to back a commemorative coin to support that alternative national organization that donates thousands of man-weeks of labor per year to civic projects  and teaches morals and citizenship but DOESN&#039;T have any connection whatsoever with God.  Help me out- I can&#039;t seem to remember the NAME of that other organization...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Tom F. who won&#8217;t touch this coin: that&#8217;s OK, I&#8217;ll buy two extras to give my sons just for you, the same reason I bought 3 SKS &#8220;evil&#8221; guns for no other reason than Clinton banning them (still new in boxes- really would never have bought them without the ban).  To any thinkers it&#8217;s clear that the U.S. is making my money back before Scouting gets a dime, so we&#8217;re not establishing religion that way.  To any who think it&#8217;s somehow BAD that adults who guide and help mold our youth should believe in God and not be homosexual- feel free to back a commemorative coin to support that alternative national organization that donates thousands of man-weeks of labor per year to civic projects  and teaches morals and citizenship but DOESN&#8217;T have any connection whatsoever with God.  Help me out- I can&#8217;t seem to remember the NAME of that other organization&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tom johnson</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-21184</link>
		<dc:creator>tom johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 00:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, folks.. for all of those of you that are complainig about an insignificant offset of 3.5 Million going to the Boy Scouts of America...
hmm. to all of those of you who think it&#039;s &quot;inmoral&quot; for BSA to recieve these funds..
Do you want to pay for the 100 million hours of community servie Scouting has given so freely to our country for the last 100 years??


Scouting only requires it&#039;s members to a belief in a Supreme Being..
sounds reasonable to me.

also consider...

How about the sale of War Bonds, sold by the Boy Scouts, during WW I and WWII? 

They sold over I BILLION DOLLARS of  War Bonds to pay for your right to complain  about them!!!

With over 50 million Scouts in this country, over the past 100 years, and with 26 astronauts as Eagle Scouts, ( who by the way, paved the way for your to enjoy the technology of your computer right now)- lighten up, and start recognizing Scouting for the Billions of dollars they have given to you, before you were even born.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, folks.. for all of those of you that are complainig about an insignificant offset of 3.5 Million going to the Boy Scouts of America&#8230;<br />
hmm. to all of those of you who think it&#8217;s &#8220;inmoral&#8221; for BSA to recieve these funds..<br />
Do you want to pay for the 100 million hours of community servie Scouting has given so freely to our country for the last 100 years??</p>
<p>Scouting only requires it&#8217;s members to a belief in a Supreme Being..<br />
sounds reasonable to me.</p>
<p>also consider&#8230;</p>
<p>How about the sale of War Bonds, sold by the Boy Scouts, during WW I and WWII? </p>
<p>They sold over I BILLION DOLLARS of  War Bonds to pay for your right to complain  about them!!!</p>
<p>With over 50 million Scouts in this country, over the past 100 years, and with 26 astronauts as Eagle Scouts, ( who by the way, paved the way for your to enjoy the technology of your computer right now)- lighten up, and start recognizing Scouting for the Billions of dollars they have given to you, before you were even born.</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-21038</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 16:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On one hand there&#039;s tax money funding the scouts who demand an oath to God and on the other hand there&#039;s tax money funding artists who put God in a bottle of piss.
What&#039;s a boy to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On one hand there&#8217;s tax money funding the scouts who demand an oath to God and on the other hand there&#8217;s tax money funding artists who put God in a bottle of piss.<br />
What&#8217;s a boy to do?</p>
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		<title>By: Big Pappa</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-20977</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Pappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 21:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to get my 6-year-old  son into the Scouts right now, but yes, they do discriminate on religious grounds. I told the local troop leader, who had distributed a flyer to my son in his public school, that we do not take oaths to anyone&#039;s gods. He told me, in no uncertain terms, that my son could not participate. And they are using my tax dollars? In my son&#039;s pulic school? And now the federal Government is raising funds to support the BSA? 

This seems to violate the First Amendment.

As does this:
http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/boyscouts.html

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. 

Congress is now passing laws respecting the establishment of religion in public schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to get my 6-year-old  son into the Scouts right now, but yes, they do discriminate on religious grounds. I told the local troop leader, who had distributed a flyer to my son in his public school, that we do not take oaths to anyone&#8217;s gods. He told me, in no uncertain terms, that my son could not participate. And they are using my tax dollars? In my son&#8217;s pulic school? And now the federal Government is raising funds to support the BSA? </p>
<p>This seems to violate the First Amendment.</p>
<p>As does this:<br />
<a href="http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/boyscouts.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/boyscouts.html</a></p>
<p>Amendment I<br />
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. </p>
<p>Congress is now passing laws respecting the establishment of religion in public schools.</p>
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		<title>By: evie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-20947</link>
		<dc:creator>evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 12:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim
I wanna know where is our cut for my sons in Iraq protecting global oil interests at taxpayer expense. If you want recompense - forget the BS - go after the really big profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim<br />
I wanna know where is our cut for my sons in Iraq protecting global oil interests at taxpayer expense. If you want recompense &#8211; forget the BS &#8211; go after the really big profits.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-20936</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 06:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not so much about the alleged discrimination.  I don&#039;t really care about that.  It&#039;s just that....look:  If the government is going to invest taxpayer dollars in this business venture, then the taxpayers are shareholders as far as I&#039;m concerned.  As such, each taxpayer is entitled to a cut of the profit.

I agree that the Boy Scouts should be entitled to a larger share of the profit for the usage of their name and likeness.  But still: where&#039;s my cut?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not so much about the alleged discrimination.  I don&#8217;t really care about that.  It&#8217;s just that&#8230;.look:  If the government is going to invest taxpayer dollars in this business venture, then the taxpayers are shareholders as far as I&#8217;m concerned.  As such, each taxpayer is entitled to a cut of the profit.</p>
<p>I agree that the Boy Scouts should be entitled to a larger share of the profit for the usage of their name and likeness.  But still: where&#8217;s my cut?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-20935</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 05:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!  &quot;Dr. No&quot; Ron Paul sure dropped the ball on this one!  Where does it say &quot;Boy Scouts&quot; in the Constitution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!  &#8220;Dr. No&#8221; Ron Paul sure dropped the ball on this one!  Where does it say &#8220;Boy Scouts&#8221; in the Constitution?</p>
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		<title>By: evie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-20910</link>
		<dc:creator>evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 23:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some folks wouldn&#039;t know real discrimination if it bit them in the ass.</description>
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		<title>By: The Wholly None</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-20900</link>
		<dc:creator>The Wholly None</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 20:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facts: for whatever reasons they have, the Boy Scouts discriminate against atheists and against homosexuals, both of which categories are United States citizens and taxpayers.  They discriminate against both children and adults.

So why should the United States government support such a bigoted and discriminatory organization?  Let them get their operating funds elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facts: for whatever reasons they have, the Boy Scouts discriminate against atheists and against homosexuals, both of which categories are United States citizens and taxpayers.  They discriminate against both children and adults.</p>
<p>So why should the United States government support such a bigoted and discriminatory organization?  Let them get their operating funds elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-20897</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 19:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The foundation of religion is a simple belief in a moral imperative to do what&#039;s right, as opposed to simply what&#039;s legal.  Atheists decrying the conduct of the Boy Scouts and the &quot;unrightness&quot; of the legality of minting the coins display their own belief that there is &quot;right&quot; beyond &quot;legal.&quot;  It&#039;s just that they want to control any definition of &quot;right&quot; and ensure it excludes God.

To me it indicates not that they fervently believe there is no God, but that they fervently believe they are individually and collectively more important.  They aren&#039;t.   They proselytize their fervent disbelief at every perceived slight, hoping that someone cares.  I don&#039;t.  However, I do support their right to their own (albeitly strange) religion.

Maybe they do enough good in the world to merit a coin of their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The foundation of religion is a simple belief in a moral imperative to do what&#8217;s right, as opposed to simply what&#8217;s legal.  Atheists decrying the conduct of the Boy Scouts and the &#8220;unrightness&#8221; of the legality of minting the coins display their own belief that there is &#8220;right&#8221; beyond &#8220;legal.&#8221;  It&#8217;s just that they want to control any definition of &#8220;right&#8221; and ensure it excludes God.</p>
<p>To me it indicates not that they fervently believe there is no God, but that they fervently believe they are individually and collectively more important.  They aren&#8217;t.   They proselytize their fervent disbelief at every perceived slight, hoping that someone cares.  I don&#8217;t.  However, I do support their right to their own (albeitly strange) religion.</p>
<p>Maybe they do enough good in the world to merit a coin of their own.</p>
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		<title>By: evie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-20873</link>
		<dc:creator>evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 12:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another example of the phony &quot;left&quot; trying to create outrage where there is none.</description>
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		<title>By: Confused</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-20862</link>
		<dc:creator>Confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 05:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand the argument that congress is spending tax dollars supporting BSA. I don&#039;t understand the outrage over misappropriation of tax dollars. Apparently people aren&#039;t reading the article carefully. As stated in the article:
  &quot;Current law requires that the mint ensure that it will not lose any money before transferring any surcharges to the recipient organization.&quot;
Any money that does go to BSA will be after costs are paid and will be money coming from purchasers of the coins, not from the government. Clearly those purchasing the coins will know where the proceeds are going and are willingly donating money to that organization.

This is simply an act commemorating the founding of scouting and acknowledging the good that organization has done in our country. Those &quot;outraged&quot; by this are clearly more upset about scouts than about &quot;misappropriation of tax dollars.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand the argument that congress is spending tax dollars supporting BSA. I don&#8217;t understand the outrage over misappropriation of tax dollars. Apparently people aren&#8217;t reading the article carefully. As stated in the article:<br />
  &#8220;Current law requires that the mint ensure that it will not lose any money before transferring any surcharges to the recipient organization.&#8221;<br />
Any money that does go to BSA will be after costs are paid and will be money coming from purchasers of the coins, not from the government. Clearly those purchasing the coins will know where the proceeds are going and are willingly donating money to that organization.</p>
<p>This is simply an act commemorating the founding of scouting and acknowledging the good that organization has done in our country. Those &#8220;outraged&#8221; by this are clearly more upset about scouts than about &#8220;misappropriation of tax dollars.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: scoutingmaniac</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-20839</link>
		<dc:creator>scoutingmaniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is absolutely ridiculous. I am a strong supporter of scouting and the BSa and find it absolutely sad that it would come to this ridcule again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is absolutely ridiculous. I am a strong supporter of scouting and the BSa and find it absolutely sad that it would come to this ridcule again.</p>
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		<title>By: Cody in America</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-20837</link>
		<dc:creator>Cody in America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not a support of religion.  This is support of an organization that supports growth in boys. 

The Constitution allows freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.  

Religion is simply a belief system in which the adherents use faith to support items that may or may not be supported by facts of truth.

Some of the most influential religions today are those who believe in Global Warming, Human Rights, Gay Privilege, and Evolution all these religions make ME the god of their religion.  

The only religions that are not allowed to be worshiped are those whose God created the world, created a better way, created freedom and created this country.

It is clear that a coin is not the issue.  It is an issue of people not wanting to submit themselves to something greater than themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not a support of religion.  This is support of an organization that supports growth in boys. </p>
<p>The Constitution allows freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.  </p>
<p>Religion is simply a belief system in which the adherents use faith to support items that may or may not be supported by facts of truth.</p>
<p>Some of the most influential religions today are those who believe in Global Warming, Human Rights, Gay Privilege, and Evolution all these religions make ME the god of their religion.  </p>
<p>The only religions that are not allowed to be worshiped are those whose God created the world, created a better way, created freedom and created this country.</p>
<p>It is clear that a coin is not the issue.  It is an issue of people not wanting to submit themselves to something greater than themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-20828</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so the Boy Scouts discriminate, get over it.  So does just about every group in the world.   When the government spends money to &quot;protect&quot; a class of citizens, be it gay, minority, athiests or the elderly, then should I not be able to complain that I&#039;m being discriminated against??  Because I choose not to be an athiest, or my preference is a heterosexual lifestyle, I happened to not be born into a minority race and I&#039;m not quite old enough for the elderly programs,  then I should complain that the government is spending money and discriminating against me because I can&#039;t participate in any of those programs??

I&#039;m an Eagle Scout and an adult volunteer and I&#039;m proud of what I&#039;ve accomplished in my life and the opportunities for the kids I&#039;ve worked with to do things they never would have had the opportunity to do.  And Tim, and &quot;Corvette-bearing Scoutmaster&quot; would be financially savvy on his or her own as those adult volunteers are just that, they don&#039;t get paid for the hours they spend working with the kids.  Their reward is seeing the youth grow into adulthood and become productive members of scociety.  Some of the kids have money to burn growing up and some don&#039;t have two nickles to rub together, bu through Scouting they can both have opportunityes to learn and succeed.  Some of them turn out great, and some fail misserably, but the Boy Scouts are there to offer them the chance to learn and grow.  

As for the coin, I&#039;m looking to buy a few, but I&#039;m happy to hear that the BSA won&#039;t see anything in profit until the Mint covers it&#039;s cost.  That&#039;s the only fair way to do it, and I&#039;m certain there are enough people out there that feel like I do and will ensure the that government isn&#039;t &quot;out&quot; anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so the Boy Scouts discriminate, get over it.  So does just about every group in the world.   When the government spends money to &#8220;protect&#8221; a class of citizens, be it gay, minority, athiests or the elderly, then should I not be able to complain that I&#8217;m being discriminated against??  Because I choose not to be an athiest, or my preference is a heterosexual lifestyle, I happened to not be born into a minority race and I&#8217;m not quite old enough for the elderly programs,  then I should complain that the government is spending money and discriminating against me because I can&#8217;t participate in any of those programs??</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an Eagle Scout and an adult volunteer and I&#8217;m proud of what I&#8217;ve accomplished in my life and the opportunities for the kids I&#8217;ve worked with to do things they never would have had the opportunity to do.  And Tim, and &#8220;Corvette-bearing Scoutmaster&#8221; would be financially savvy on his or her own as those adult volunteers are just that, they don&#8217;t get paid for the hours they spend working with the kids.  Their reward is seeing the youth grow into adulthood and become productive members of scociety.  Some of the kids have money to burn growing up and some don&#8217;t have two nickles to rub together, bu through Scouting they can both have opportunityes to learn and succeed.  Some of them turn out great, and some fail misserably, but the Boy Scouts are there to offer them the chance to learn and grow.  </p>
<p>As for the coin, I&#8217;m looking to buy a few, but I&#8217;m happy to hear that the BSA won&#8217;t see anything in profit until the Mint covers it&#8217;s cost.  That&#8217;s the only fair way to do it, and I&#8217;m certain there are enough people out there that feel like I do and will ensure the that government isn&#8217;t &#8220;out&#8221; anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Wondering...</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-20822</link>
		<dc:creator>Wondering...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BSA was granted a federal charter long ago.  Almost all of the various Boy Scout logos are trademarked and/or copyrighted and have to be licensed for use.  The surcharge simply may be the fee for using a BSA logo on the coin....  Sounds like typical business practices used when other corporations deal with the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BSA was granted a federal charter long ago.  Almost all of the various Boy Scout logos are trademarked and/or copyrighted and have to be licensed for use.  The surcharge simply may be the fee for using a BSA logo on the coin&#8230;.  Sounds like typical business practices used when other corporations deal with the government.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott in Dc</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-20821</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott in Dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a Boy Scout so many years ago. I don&#039;t remember being pushed into a religious conviction one way or another from anyone associated with the Scouts, except from my parents. We were never told to proselytize nor encourage to do so. We were taught to have respect for our religious beliefs and for those of others. While your mileage may vary, I have never witnessed Scouts being pushed into a religious corner.

I am a coin collector but not a commemorative coin collector. I don&#039;t know if I will collect this coin. But if I do, I have no reservations with this coin.

As for the design, the British issued a great design for a 50 pence commemorative for the 100 anniversary of the surrounding the founding of Scouting last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a Boy Scout so many years ago. I don&#8217;t remember being pushed into a religious conviction one way or another from anyone associated with the Scouts, except from my parents. We were never told to proselytize nor encourage to do so. We were taught to have respect for our religious beliefs and for those of others. While your mileage may vary, I have never witnessed Scouts being pushed into a religious corner.</p>
<p>I am a coin collector but not a commemorative coin collector. I don&#8217;t know if I will collect this coin. But if I do, I have no reservations with this coin.</p>
<p>As for the design, the British issued a great design for a 50 pence commemorative for the 100 anniversary of the surrounding the founding of Scouting last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Murray</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/congresss-35-million-bake-sale-for-the-boy-scouts/#comment-20818</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 13:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that creating a commemorative coin for an organization that promotes positive ideals is fantastic.  With respect to profits from the coins, that is something Congress set up and if the coins are not all sold, not all the money is given to whatever organization the coin represents.

With respect to religious beliefs, the only bottom line requirement is that one cannot be an atheist.   You do not have to be a Christian, you can be a Pantheist for example; someone who believes that the universe and nature are one.

One of the requirements to be an Eagle Scout, the top award in the Boy Scout program, is that you do a community service project.  And the project cannot directly benefit scouting.  The exact requirement reads as:

“While a Life Scout, plan, develop, and give leadership to others in a service project helpful to any religious institution, school, or community. (The project should benefit an organization other than Boy Scouting.) The project idea must be approved by the organization benefiting from the effort, your Scoutmaster and troop committee and the council or district before you start. You must use the Eagle Scout Leadership Service Project Workbook, BSA publication No. 18-927, in meeting this requirement.”

As the requirements state, the scout has to use leadership skills.  Not only are others benefiting but the boy is also benefiting from learning and using leadership skills.  This and the outdoor experience is what scouting is all about.  For the boys and leaders, scouting is mostly about fun.  

Promoting positive ideals can only benefit society and this is what Boy Scout is for the boys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that creating a commemorative coin for an organization that promotes positive ideals is fantastic.  With respect to profits from the coins, that is something Congress set up and if the coins are not all sold, not all the money is given to whatever organization the coin represents.</p>
<p>With respect to religious beliefs, the only bottom line requirement is that one cannot be an atheist.   You do not have to be a Christian, you can be a Pantheist for example; someone who believes that the universe and nature are one.</p>
<p>One of the requirements to be an Eagle Scout, the top award in the Boy Scout program, is that you do a community service project.  And the project cannot directly benefit scouting.  The exact requirement reads as:</p>
<p>“While a Life Scout, plan, develop, and give leadership to others in a service project helpful to any religious institution, school, or community. (The project should benefit an organization other than Boy Scouting.) The project idea must be approved by the organization benefiting from the effort, your Scoutmaster and troop committee and the council or district before you start. You must use the Eagle Scout Leadership Service Project Workbook, BSA publication No. 18-927, in meeting this requirement.”</p>
<p>As the requirements state, the scout has to use leadership skills.  Not only are others benefiting but the boy is also benefiting from learning and using leadership skills.  This and the outdoor experience is what scouting is all about.  For the boys and leaders, scouting is mostly about fun.  </p>
<p>Promoting positive ideals can only benefit society and this is what Boy Scout is for the boys.</p>
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