While the article raises many true and important points, it progresses like a politician selling a war, who starts with an insistence that we only want peace, only to end with a demand for blood and pain.

First, it says, quite correctly, that there is no “normal,” and that targeting the abnormal will only make things worse. It then throws out a sloppy laundry list of traits that could easily describe any number of well intentioned people who fall outside a rather narrow definition of normalcy. The remainder of the article then hammers away at the notion that these people need to be singled out and ghettoized, and that “normal” people (didn’t you say there was no such thing) should be protected from them.

Apparently, the assumption is that, without a psychopath to lead it, an angry mob will stop short of outright lynching, and that the educated and forewarned populace will scrupulously target only the truly dangerous, and not the more harmlessly deviant. I am not so optimistic.

I absolutely have a conscience, but fall well outside the psychological mean. If this article were taken as a guide by society at large, I would fear for my life.

Hare once said: Two Pyschopaths cannot work together for long for their can be only one star.

This is in reference to the Pyschopath’s pathological Narcissism, there can only be one in power, one Alpha to them and that is the indivual Pyschopath.

Oh yes, stop using buzzwords. Manipulate has a meaning, it’s “control” and pathology has a meaning it is “study of disease”, pyschopathology also has a definition it is “study of mental illness”.

The abuse of these words by lunatic fringers is disgusting, they know the words but not the meaning.

I suggest you go to hare.org, they have a ton of links, I suggest you actually READ them and COMPREHEND them, if you want a good insight into real Pyschopathy, not the imagined “demon beings” you make up.

Also for a glimpse into the Pyschopathic mind, I suggest you go to http://www.acolumbinesite.com/ and read Eric Harris’ personal diary. It’s like reading the personal diary of the “Joker” from Batman or “Kefka” from Final Fantasy VI.

Recommended Topics for reading:

Story of Narcissus
Narcissism (From Pro’s, not Loons)
Pyschopathy (From Pro’s, not Loons)

Use your heads, 2+2=4, the world is round, the world revolves around the sun.

It goes, in my opinion, beyond any of this. We EXALT psychopaths. Movies, TV, political theater, all elevate psychopaths social status. Bad education, lack of parenting skills, poor nutrition, environmental toxins, etc. etc. all contribute. To try to establish etiology is impossible. We need to each address our interactions and our pro-activeness (or lack thereof) in shaping society.

http://www.healingmagic.org/articles/Narcissism.pdf

Psychopathia isn’t about being some mystical being. It cosist of several differerent traits. Most people have at least some of those traits and since you don’t have to ‘collect the whole set’ to be a psychopath you are unlikely to find a ‘cure’ anytime soon. In my opinion stupidity is far more dangerous and if you manage to combine stupidity with psychopathia you have a real problem.

Also not all psychopaths are murderers and not all murderers are psychopaths. It could just be the person who is cruel to you, indifferent and even enjoys the pains of others could qualify I think. There are other types too that can follow such people.

BS. How to prove such a surmise? What is the definition of civilization?

The inventor of civilization was almost certainly a woman who talked
with others and planted seeds.

Only if you choose to be a victim….

http://www.sonic.net/~taryfast/destruction.html

It is evident that we are lead by psycopaths but we could have only allowed them such latitude if we, ourselves, had the same tendencies.
So, here we have the truth out. We are ALL capable of hideous behaviour.
Have we never questioned WHY we follow those who GIVE themselves “authority”? Could it be that we are enamoured of the prestige and affluence that is the capstone of power and “authority”?

Could it be that we desire the very things that these psycopaths possess? Perhaps we “covet “their lifestyles, and, through this means we are dispossessed of our reasoning but most of all our ability to discern dysfunction?

We are ALL complicit in this ‘Prison Planet’ mentality starting from the very roots of our tribal beginnings. Just take a look at our history through the writings of the Sumerians. We accept the psychology of the psychopath because we hope that by our obediance we will be rewarded in either this life or the next.

It is a dangerous game this finger pointing and can only hinder our collective evolution.

While I disagree with HOW we arrived at this Epoc I agree that we must stop supporting the current paradigm. It is as simple an act that one could do yet the one with the greatest impact for all humans.

“Perspective, Brian..
If neighbor Joe’s deception results in the same suffering for Jim as Rush’s deception results in for millions, then the crime is still equal.
Just ask Jim.”

Killing a single human is much less of a crime than killing a million humans, and the analogy holds for deceiving a million people versus deceiving one.

George W. Bush and Co. are some of the worst mass murderers in history. In terms of global effect they’ve certainly killed more people than did Hitler. The number of people Bush and Co. kills is important – the number they impoverish is important. That’s not the same crime as Joe getting angry and stabbing Jim to death.

Right now in the world power rules, not justice. That’s why noone even bothers to press charges against the Neoconservatives. No court has the *power* to try them, even though their crimes are obvious, well documented, extremely heinous, ongoing, and even *accelerating*. It would be like if Ted Bundy had immunity from law and we had to just stand by and watch him (or fight against him without substantial effect) kill, and kill, and kill, and kill. Between murders he gets on television and condescendingly “explains” the world to us. What I still don’t understand is why the left pays attention to Bush, yet they can’t stomach Hitler. Free Market Fundamentalism is hardly less damaging than Eugenics. I guess it’s the same reason the German left stomached Hitler – they were being paid by him. Those American university salaries don’t pay themselves.

The weak exist under the rule of law. The powerful exist under their own rules, and even those don’t apply when they don’t want them to. The world will not be a good one while the powerful make up their own rules.

The trouble is we run on a system that is like the bizarro superman world.
Robbing one man at gun point gets you twenty years.
Robbing ten million at pen point gets you a fine and probation.

Also, didn’t one high court or another rule that the NYT is under no obligation, by law, to tell the truth?
As far as a moral obligation of the NYT to tell the truth, well, am I laughing yet?

The Court of Law should be *fact-based*. Therefore, prove something is a lie and the liar is punished under the law. Right now the courts are partially fact-based, partially clever-based, and partially money-based. And of course they are political monsters.

I wonder if the concept of “kali yuga” is a reference to psychopathy. A time when the nature of man becomes vicious and immoral, rulers are a danger to their people, etc.

I’ve been thinking of them as “type 2 humans”. You could call us normals “co-operators”, as our emotional responses kind of force us to get on with each other (the hardwired inability to lie convincingly, guilt, the desire for agreement, etc). This creates a niche for a creature that can invoke these mechanisms in others, but has no such mechanisms itself. “Controller” or “dominator” might be an appropriate term.