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	<title>Comments on: Reproductive Rights: The Abortion Conversation We Should Be Having</title>
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		<title>By: Arch Stanton</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/reproductive-rights-the-abortion-conversation-we-should-be-having/#comment-19113</link>
		<dc:creator>Arch Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And the truth is, despite Roe v. Wade, “choice”, like so many other choices is a right of privilege.&quot;


The truth is that a bunch of high sounding rhetoric and pop-psyche platitudes are not going to affect the 800 billion ton military-corporate vampire that&#039;s sucking all the blood out of social services the world over.  You want a conversation?  An excellent place to start would be a well-reasoned and researched analysis of the priorities states place on the right and left hands of government, and the ability of popular organizing to have an effect on both.


&quot;Are we going to start preaching it is our human right to kill as well?&quot;

I assume by &quot;our&quot; you mean the US of A of which you hold citizenship.  The facts in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the US, indicate the affirmative.  You might be advised to lose the &quot;pro-life&quot; hypocrisy, unless you&#039;re claiming to be a Jain or Buddhist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And the truth is, despite Roe v. Wade, “choice”, like so many other choices is a right of privilege.&#8221;</p>
<p>The truth is that a bunch of high sounding rhetoric and pop-psyche platitudes are not going to affect the 800 billion ton military-corporate vampire that&#8217;s sucking all the blood out of social services the world over.  You want a conversation?  An excellent place to start would be a well-reasoned and researched analysis of the priorities states place on the right and left hands of government, and the ability of popular organizing to have an effect on both.</p>
<p>&#8220;Are we going to start preaching it is our human right to kill as well?&#8221;</p>
<p>I assume by &#8220;our&#8221; you mean the US of A of which you hold citizenship.  The facts in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the US, indicate the affirmative.  You might be advised to lose the &#8220;pro-life&#8221; hypocrisy, unless you&#8217;re claiming to be a Jain or Buddhist.</p>
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		<title>By: evie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/reproductive-rights-the-abortion-conversation-we-should-be-having/#comment-19108</link>
		<dc:creator>evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m woman.

At the end of the day, (quoted from Raven) hopefully our daughters have learned responsibility and self-respect and are not in need of abortion services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m woman.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, (quoted from Raven) hopefully our daughters have learned responsibility and self-respect and are not in need of abortion services.</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/reproductive-rights-the-abortion-conversation-we-should-be-having/#comment-19100</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Golly gee, the last time I offered my opinion on matters of birth/children and persona responsibility, I was practically run out of town on a rail, after being branded and tarred...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golly gee, the last time I offered my opinion on matters of birth/children and persona responsibility, I was practically run out of town on a rail, after being branded and tarred&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/reproductive-rights-the-abortion-conversation-we-should-be-having/#comment-19098</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when&#039;s the end of the day, evie?  BTB, are you a man or a woman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when&#8217;s the end of the day, evie?  BTB, are you a man or a woman?</p>
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		<title>By: evie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/reproductive-rights-the-abortion-conversation-we-should-be-having/#comment-19078</link>
		<dc:creator>evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;At the end of the day, it comes down to what we are teaching our daughters.&quot; Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;At the end of the day, it comes down to what we are teaching our daughters.&#8221; Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/reproductive-rights-the-abortion-conversation-we-should-be-having/#comment-19077</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like many of the things I have read on this blog but as a woman and a human rights activist, I feel ALL humans have rights born and unborn. When a heart starts beating, that person, yes person, has rights as well. Are we going to start preaching it is our human right to kill as well?

Why do we have a choice to kill a child but not our next door neighbor who plays loud music?  Moreover, The slavery argument offered in the above post is poor and subjective. If we feel marriage is slavery, do we have the right to kill our husband? I think work is slavery but I am not about to murder my boss and think it was my right to do so.

Unborn children can&#039;t make choices so we shouldn&#039;t be allowed to make them for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like many of the things I have read on this blog but as a woman and a human rights activist, I feel ALL humans have rights born and unborn. When a heart starts beating, that person, yes person, has rights as well. Are we going to start preaching it is our human right to kill as well?</p>
<p>Why do we have a choice to kill a child but not our next door neighbor who plays loud music?  Moreover, The slavery argument offered in the above post is poor and subjective. If we feel marriage is slavery, do we have the right to kill our husband? I think work is slavery but I am not about to murder my boss and think it was my right to do so.</p>
<p>Unborn children can&#8217;t make choices so we shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to make them for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/reproductive-rights-the-abortion-conversation-we-should-be-having/#comment-19049</link>
		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the end of the day, it comes down to what we are teaching our daughters. We, as parents, should not be giving our daughters options on how to escape from their mistakes- they should be taught to avoid making the mistake in the first place. That &quot;compassion&quot; is needed beforehand- not after they&#039;ve done the deed and have to deal with the consequences. Abortion and birth control are choices- but they should be dealt with and taught to our daughters as medical options, not a way to get out of a bad deal with a guy that didn&#039;t want to deal with them. Abortion should be made legal to deal with medical emergencies that could harm mother and/or child. 

We do have a right to bear our children, and we do have the right to stand up and say whether we want them or not. But, this is a right that comes with a responsibility. As a woman contemplating abortion, you have the right to terminate that pregnancy- but you also have the responsibility of making that decision that says whether the person you have living within you  is gonna have the opportunity to see the world and breathe its first breath. That is a heavy responsibility, and one that a teenager, or a busy woman, or even a rape victim is going to have to live with for the rest of her life. 

We need to teach our daughters the gravity of this kind of decision. They need to learn what a privilege it is to have a child, and a miracle it is to have a healthy one. They need to understand that having an abortion is killing a baby, and while they do have a choice, they need to understand what consequences will come with the choice they make. 

At the end of the day- TEACH YOUR DAUGHTERS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of the day, it comes down to what we are teaching our daughters. We, as parents, should not be giving our daughters options on how to escape from their mistakes- they should be taught to avoid making the mistake in the first place. That &#8220;compassion&#8221; is needed beforehand- not after they&#8217;ve done the deed and have to deal with the consequences. Abortion and birth control are choices- but they should be dealt with and taught to our daughters as medical options, not a way to get out of a bad deal with a guy that didn&#8217;t want to deal with them. Abortion should be made legal to deal with medical emergencies that could harm mother and/or child. </p>
<p>We do have a right to bear our children, and we do have the right to stand up and say whether we want them or not. But, this is a right that comes with a responsibility. As a woman contemplating abortion, you have the right to terminate that pregnancy- but you also have the responsibility of making that decision that says whether the person you have living within you  is gonna have the opportunity to see the world and breathe its first breath. That is a heavy responsibility, and one that a teenager, or a busy woman, or even a rape victim is going to have to live with for the rest of her life. </p>
<p>We need to teach our daughters the gravity of this kind of decision. They need to learn what a privilege it is to have a child, and a miracle it is to have a healthy one. They need to understand that having an abortion is killing a baby, and while they do have a choice, they need to understand what consequences will come with the choice they make. </p>
<p>At the end of the day- TEACH YOUR DAUGHTERS!</p>
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