Comments on: Questions That Obama and Clinton Were Not Asked in the Debate http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mike McNiven http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-19111 Mike McNiven Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:16:50 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-19111 next question: Mr.Obama, why hedge fund "Citadel" is doing fundraising for you? what is the quid pro quo in this case? next question:

Mr.Obama, why hedge fund “Citadel” is doing fundraising for you? what is the quid pro quo in this case?

]]> By: Jerry D. Rose http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18969 Jerry D. Rose Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:08:19 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18969 Max Shields, "The Myth of Sisyphus" my friend. Although "critical thinking" is exceptional, can we as devotees to its promotion do other than continue to roll that stone to the top of the hill? Max Shields, “The Myth of Sisyphus” my friend. Although “critical thinking” is exceptional, can we as devotees to its promotion do other than continue to roll that stone to the top of the hill?

]]> By: Max Shields http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18967 Max Shields Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:00:50 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18967 Jerry Rose, in the end we can pierce the veil but most are still very much wrapped in it. Seeing through the obvious does not seem to get us past it. The triteness of "having a beer" with candidates as the singular connection with the American people is case in point. Critical thinking, after all, is the exception. Jerry Rose, in the end we can pierce the veil but most are still very much wrapped in it.

Seeing through the obvious does not seem to get us past it. The triteness of “having a beer” with candidates as the singular connection with the American people is case in point.

Critical thinking, after all, is the exception.

]]> By: Jerry D. Rose http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18919 Jerry D. Rose Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:11:08 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18919 Very intriguing interpretation, TS Drageath, of the vapid content of the questions asked at that "debate." It's entirely possible that each candidate is sticking out his/her chin and saying "hit me" so that the "victim" of attack journalism can use that to play on public sympathy. The post-debate complaints of numerous Obama supporters that their guy had been unfairly used---and a similar comment of Bill Clinton about the long-term pilloring of Hillary--gives some credence to this interpretation. The totally sad and sick thing is that this kind of self-defined victimization may actually WORK in this electorate which can't seem to get much beyond their sympathetic feelings about the candidates. Didn't Clinton win because she "cried" about her mis-treatment in New Hampshire, just as Ed Muskie lost all those years ago because the CRIED in the same state? (Real men don't cry, real women do). Maybe we're getting the kind of candidates and media coverage we deserve if which case...God help us! Very intriguing interpretation, TS Drageath, of the vapid content of the questions asked at that “debate.” It’s entirely possible that each candidate is sticking out his/her chin and saying “hit me” so that the “victim” of attack journalism can use that to play on public sympathy. The post-debate complaints of numerous Obama supporters that their guy had been unfairly used—and a similar comment of Bill Clinton about the long-term pilloring of Hillary–gives some credence to this interpretation. The totally sad and sick thing is that this kind of self-defined victimization may actually WORK in this electorate which can’t seem to get much beyond their sympathetic feelings about the candidates. Didn’t Clinton win because she “cried” about her mis-treatment in New Hampshire, just as Ed Muskie lost all those years ago because the CRIED in the same state? (Real men don’t cry, real women do). Maybe we’re getting the kind of candidates and media coverage we deserve if which case…God help us!

]]> By: TS Draegeth http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18913 TS Draegeth Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:55:00 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18913 Do not be fooled by Obama and/or Hillary's "upset" at being asked silly questions. If they were honest people, they could have answered the questions honestly and directly, then used the inanity of the question to segue to a serious statement/discussion about the real issues that matter. Their "offense" is as staged and predictable as the whole "debate" setup was that spawned that same "offense." Do not be fooled by Obama and/or Hillary’s “upset” at being asked silly questions. If they were honest people, they could have answered the questions honestly and directly, then used the inanity of the question to segue to a serious statement/discussion about the real issues that matter. Their “offense” is as staged and predictable as the whole “debate” setup was that spawned that same “offense.”

]]> By: Trish Popovitch http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18822 Trish Popovitch Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:01:23 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18822 I'm just starting to wonder if its all too late, again. I agree with Hawkins regarding the 4th party candidate. At this point I feel we'll be choosing the best of a bad lot; politicians chosen for their screen time abilities and not their economic polices. In regard to the article great but I got side tracked: why on earth should Israel be an umbrella country of the United States? This one side support of an extremely complicated issue is simply making things worse. If Israel puts down its nuclear weapons and learns to share, why would it even need US support to stay safe? As Israel remains in violation of international boundary laws I get really sick and tired of feeling bad for them. I'm sorry but there it is. Of course, its not everyone over there, just a few politicians elected for their screen time abilities and not their peaceful policies. Small world huh? I’m just starting to wonder if its all too late, again. I agree with Hawkins regarding the 4th party candidate. At this point I feel we’ll be choosing the best of a bad lot; politicians chosen for their screen time abilities and not their economic polices.

In regard to the article great but I got side tracked: why on earth should Israel be an umbrella country of the United States? This one side support of an extremely complicated issue is simply making things worse. If Israel puts down its nuclear weapons and learns to share, why would it even need US support to stay safe? As Israel remains in violation of international boundary laws I get really sick and tired of feeling bad for them. I’m sorry but there it is. Of course, its not everyone over there, just a few politicians elected for their screen time abilities and not their peaceful policies.

Small world huh?

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18820 Don Hawkins Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:38:22 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18820 Point number 8 By Rhaydz B. Barcia, Correspondent LEGAZPI CITY: Scientists warned the Philippines could experience famine by 2020, as the adverse impact of global warming takes its toll on natural resources. One of those scientists was Lourdes Tibig, climate data chief of the central office of the national weather agency, the Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration (Pag-asa). She and others attended the roundtable discussion of scientists and community development practitioners on disaster and climate risk reduction and climate change adaptation, organized by the Center for Initiatives and Research on Climate Adaptation, of the Albay provincial government. Tibig said the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) fourth assessment report showed global warming is unequivocal, causing ice caps to melt and sea levels to rise. “We have pumped enough greenhouse gases into the atmosphere to warm the planet for many decades to come. The earth’s natural system will be affected for decades even if greenhouse gas emissions are reduced now,” she said. “There are projected increases from 1.1 degrees Celsius to 6.4 degrees Celsius during the 21st century, and for the next two decades, a warming of about 0.2 degrees Celsius per decade is projected, meaning severe drought occurrences and frequent flooding are expected to happen in the Philippines,” Tibig told participants here. “The impact of climate change on agriculture will be very bad,” she added. Glacial melting threatens disastrous floods in Bhutan, one of the world's most environmentally vigilant nations. By Henry Chu, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer April 20, 2008 PUNAKHA, BHUTAN -- High in the Himalayas, above this peaceful valley where farmers till a patchwork of emerald-green fields, an icy lake fed by melting glaciers waits to become a "tsunami from the sky." The lake is swollen dangerously past normal levels, thanks to the global warming that is causing the glaciers to retreat at record speed. But no one knows when the tipping point will come and the lake can take no more, bursting its banks and sending torrents of water crashing into the valley below. Alternatine news how about just the news not people talking about nothing and then more people who talk about the people who just talked about nothing. Point number 8

By Rhaydz B. Barcia, Correspondent
LEGAZPI CITY: Scientists warned the Philippines could experience famine by 2020, as the adverse impact of global warming takes its toll on natural resources.
One of those scientists was Lourdes Tibig, climate data chief of the central office of the national weather agency, the Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration (Pag-asa). She and others attended the roundtable discussion of scientists and community development practitioners on disaster and climate risk reduction and climate change adaptation, organized by the Center for Initiatives and Research on Climate Adaptation, of the Albay provincial government.
Tibig said the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) fourth assessment report showed global warming is unequivocal, causing ice caps to melt and sea levels to rise.
“We have pumped enough greenhouse gases into the atmosphere to warm the planet for many decades to come. The earth’s natural system will be affected for decades even if greenhouse gas emissions are reduced now,” she said.
“There are projected increases from 1.1 degrees Celsius to 6.4 degrees Celsius during the 21st century, and for the next two decades, a warming of about 0.2 degrees Celsius per decade is projected, meaning severe drought occurrences and frequent flooding are expected to happen in the Philippines,” Tibig told participants here.
“The impact of climate change on agriculture will be very bad,” she added.
Glacial melting threatens disastrous floods in Bhutan, one of the world’s most environmentally vigilant nations.
By Henry Chu, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
April 20, 2008
PUNAKHA, BHUTAN — High in the Himalayas, above this peaceful valley where farmers till a patchwork of emerald-green fields, an icy lake fed by melting glaciers waits to become a “tsunami from the sky.”

The lake is swollen dangerously past normal levels, thanks to the global warming that is causing the glaciers to retreat at record speed. But no one knows when the tipping point will come and the lake can take no more, bursting its banks and sending torrents of water crashing into the valley below.

Alternatine news how about just the news not people talking about nothing and then more people who talk about the people who just talked about nothing.

]]> By: Max Shields http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18807 Max Shields Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:03:58 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18807 Good questions requiring two things: 1. alternative news to ask them 2. 3 and 4th party candidates to answer them. Good questions requiring two things: 1. alternative news to ask them 2. 3 and 4th party candidates to answer them.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18789 Don Hawkins Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:14:19 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18789 Point number seven. For those of us that don't live in dreamland or are part of the Matrix that many have come to know as there friend. Here is just a few questions. 85 million barrels of oil a day Worldwide and could add 5 million more in a few years. The economies Worldwide number one on the list to keep going and at all cost move forward more, more. Right now the World is using 30% more resources than the Earth can reproduce and of course climate change that for my kids and there kids on this present course the future is no future. Can somebody please tell me who the hell is in charge? Because it sure looks like nobody is in charge. Has there been a decision made by the so called deciders that there is no answer to these problems and to do nothing the problems will solve themselves? In 1988 this planet passed 350 ppm of CO 2 in the atmosphere and is now at about 384 ppm. Many thinking people feel that in just a few years because of drought and flooding crops and food could be a bit of a problem. Many thinking people also feel that say the economy's Worldwide do get cookin again just how the hell is that suppose to work. Wait don't tell me technology will save us. Many thinking people know the numbers on what is being done and what needs to be done and we are only off by about 95%. Who would like to go first? Obama starts with, "have hope", Clinton Say's, "when the phone rings I will answer", McCain say's, "think long term" and I say, " cut the crap this is war and the word is getting out, yes many still live in matrixland but everyday more and more humans are starting to unplug. 350, 350, 350, 350 is the day we passed a point that playing games as usually is far beyond stupid. More and more people are starting to understand that hard choices are going to be needed if my kids and there kids are going to have a fighting chance". Would anybody like to comment on these points as the camera pans to the potential leaders of the free World and they all are just looking straight ahead with there mouths half open in sort of a dream state. Point number seven.
For those of us that don’t live in dreamland or are part of the Matrix that many have come to know as there friend. Here is just a few questions. 85 million barrels of oil a day Worldwide and could add 5 million more in a few years. The economies Worldwide number one on the list to keep going and at all cost move forward more, more. Right now the World is using 30% more resources than the Earth can reproduce and of course climate change that for my kids and there kids on this present course the future is no future. Can somebody please tell me who the hell is in charge? Because it sure looks like nobody is in charge. Has there been a decision made by the so called deciders that there is no answer to these problems and to do nothing the problems will solve themselves? In 1988 this planet passed 350 ppm of CO 2 in the atmosphere and is now at about 384 ppm. Many thinking people feel that in just a few years because of drought and flooding crops and food could be a bit of a problem. Many thinking people also feel that say the economy’s Worldwide do get cookin again just how the hell is that suppose to work. Wait don’t tell me technology will save us. Many thinking people know the numbers on what is being done and what needs to be done and we are only off by about 95%. Who would like to go first? Obama starts with, “have hope”, Clinton Say’s, “when the phone rings I will answer”, McCain say’s, “think long term” and I say, ” cut the crap this is war and the word is getting out, yes many still live in matrixland but everyday more and more humans are starting to unplug. 350, 350, 350, 350 is the day we passed a point that playing games as usually is far beyond stupid. More and more people are starting to understand that hard choices are going to be needed if my kids and there kids are going to have a fighting chance”. Would anybody like to comment on these points as the camera pans to the potential leaders of the free World and they all are just looking straight ahead with there mouths half open in sort of a dream state.

]]> By: lee from Florida http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18785 lee from Florida Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:17:36 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18785 You got my support... What I saw on ABC Wednesday night, was not by no means a debate, I had all I could do holding myself back from flinging my ice tea at the TV set... You got my support…
What I saw on ABC Wednesday night, was not by no means a debate, I had all I could do holding myself back from flinging my ice tea at the TV set…

]]> By: Rich Griffin http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18781 Rich Griffin Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:26:05 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/questions-that-obama-and-clinton-were-not-asked-in-the-debate/#comment-18781 This is why it is so important that Ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinney be in the debates in the fall - I believe that they will raise these ethical questions in a way that the mainstream media is incable of doing - because of their own ethical problems with cheerleading rather than reporting the news. Those questions are terrific - there are many more, such as what can you do as President to help consumers with soaring food prices? Gas prices? Runaway taxes on their phone, electric, cable, and heating bills?? This is why it is so important that Ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinney be in the debates in the fall – I believe that they will raise these ethical questions in a way that the mainstream media is incable of doing – because of their own ethical problems with cheerleading rather than reporting the news. Those questions are terrific – there are many more, such as what can you do as President to help consumers with soaring food prices? Gas prices? Runaway taxes on their phone, electric, cable, and heating bills??

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