Comments on: Why Will No One Hear Our Voice? http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ekosmo http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15684 Ekosmo Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:40:38 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15684 I'll be brief too, after all, we’ve seen it all before... plenty of times... back to the 1940s... "There was a world of difference in the Waffen SS' response to attacks from the "terrorist bandits" in the ghetto of Warsaw -- who refused to come out and tango with Brigadefuhrer Stroop's mechanized SS armor divisions -- but instead chose to "deliberately sacrifice" their own people by "Hiding Behind" their "Civilian population." [ref. Mark Regev 3 days ago -- or indeed, see any old Zionist Hasbara-speak issued over the last 60 years] "The "International Juden-Bolshevik-Banking House Conspiracy" also deliberately used and sacrificed all of Europe's people as cover for attacks on Germany in 1914. It was assymetrical warfare. If not for the Versailles Treaty, the Luftwaffe wouldn’t have flown over Europe 15 years later." [meaning you can use any old excuse to engineer a land-heist and its accompanying bloodbaths -- see e.g. Moshe Sharrett's 'Diary' re. early 1950s Zionist plans for the region -- especially Lebanon.] "No other country would put up with being attacked like that on their borders. Unless of course rabid Anti-Aryans condemn the rights of Deutschland 1. -- to Defend Itself, 2. -- to gather all Germans, dispersed across Europe -- indeed dispersed all across the World -- into ONE Reich, under ONE flag, 3. -- and, by pouring forth thereafter and conquering Her own unique "Lebensraum" at the expense of all those "lesser breeds" standing in Our way, finally realize the glorious destiny that Gawd has harbored in Our Nations' soul for the last 2000 years..." ----------------------------------------------------------- PS: -- I'm paraphrasing a post above, at 6:22 pm [natch] the sane can make the usual substitutions and draw the obvious comparisons... I’ll be brief too,
after all, we’ve seen it all before… plenty of times…

back to the 1940s…

“There was a world of difference in the Waffen SS’ response to attacks from the “terrorist bandits” in the ghetto of Warsaw — who refused to come out and tango with Brigadefuhrer Stroop’s mechanized SS armor divisions — but instead chose to “deliberately sacrifice” their own people by “Hiding Behind” their “Civilian population.”

[ref. Mark Regev 3 days ago -- or indeed, see any old Zionist Hasbara-speak issued over the last 60 years]

“The “International Juden-Bolshevik-Banking House Conspiracy” also deliberately used and sacrificed all of Europe’s people as cover for attacks on Germany in 1914. It was assymetrical warfare. If not for the Versailles Treaty, the Luftwaffe wouldn’t have flown over Europe 15 years later.”

[meaning you can use any old excuse to engineer a land-heist and its accompanying bloodbaths -- see e.g. Moshe Sharrett's 'Diary' re. early 1950s Zionist plans for the region -- especially Lebanon.]

“No other country would put up with being attacked like that on their borders. Unless of course rabid Anti-Aryans condemn the rights of Deutschland
1. — to Defend Itself,
2. — to gather all Germans, dispersed across Europe — indeed dispersed all across the World — into ONE Reich, under ONE flag,
3. — and, by pouring forth thereafter and conquering Her own unique “Lebensraum” at the expense of all those “lesser breeds” standing in Our way, finally realize the glorious destiny that Gawd has harbored in Our Nations’ soul for the last 2000 years…”

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PS: — I’m paraphrasing a post above, at 6:22 pm [natch]

the sane can make the usual substitutions and draw the obvious comparisons…

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15682 Mulga Mumblebrain Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:46:19 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15682 You see Ray, that for the Judeofascist elect, the lives of non-Jews have no value. For the likes of jaime, the hundreds of Gazans, and not a few on the West Bank, slaughtered since the boycott of the democratically electedHamas government was imposed, simply are of no account. As Rabbi Kook the Elder, and a veritable menagerie of other fundamentalist Rabbis, have told us, the Jews are a different order of creation to non-Jews. Thus for the jaimes of this world, the one or two Jews killed by Qassams, are a Universe shaking tragedy, while the obliteration, evisceration, burning to death or simple extermination of Gazan goyim is a matter of utter indifference. No, a matter for celebration, as God ordains the extermination of his enemies down to the last baby. It is, as the Rabbis of the Yesha Council said during the slaughter in Lebanon, a mitzvah, a good deed, to slaughter civilians in time of war. No wonder the words of these crazed monsters are kept from the world public. The reality of what Israel has become, and the mass slaughter its rulers, secular and religious, plan to unleash on the Arab Middle East, must be hidden from the public. While there are many Israelis such as the estimable B'tselem, who vigorously resist their country's descent into Nazism, they are relatively powerless. A grim future looms. Israel has become a cancer, not only in the Middle East, but throughout the world, its brutality and contempt for International Law, an incitement to fascist, racist monsters everywhere. You see Ray, that for the Judeofascist elect, the lives of non-Jews have no value. For the likes of jaime, the hundreds of Gazans, and not a few on the West Bank, slaughtered since the boycott of the democratically electedHamas government was imposed, simply are of no account.
As Rabbi Kook the Elder, and a veritable menagerie of other fundamentalist Rabbis, have told us, the Jews are a different order of creation to non-Jews. Thus for the jaimes of this world, the one or two Jews killed by Qassams, are a Universe shaking tragedy, while the obliteration, evisceration, burning to death or simple extermination of Gazan goyim is a matter of utter indifference. No, a matter for celebration, as God ordains the extermination of his enemies down to the last baby. It is, as the Rabbis of the Yesha Council said during the slaughter in Lebanon, a mitzvah, a good deed, to slaughter civilians in time of war.
No wonder the words of these crazed monsters are kept from the world public. The reality of what Israel has become, and the mass slaughter its rulers, secular and religious, plan to unleash on the Arab Middle East, must be hidden from the public. While there are many Israelis such as the estimable B’tselem, who vigorously resist their country’s descent into Nazism, they are relatively powerless. A grim future looms. Israel has become a cancer, not only in the Middle East, but throughout the world, its brutality and contempt for International Law, an incitement to fascist, racist monsters everywhere.

]]> By: Ray Ralph http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15679 Ray Ralph Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:00:35 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15679 There is a "world of difference" between Hamas and the Palestinians? I agree. The IDF are racists, illegal occupiers of land that does not belong to them and war criminals. The Palestinians, including Hamas, are allowed under international law to resist illegal occupation. I personally disapprove of all violence and would like to see both sides lay down their arms and wage peace instead of war. But blaming the victim and pretending that the victimizer is really the victim, as you do, is unconscionable. There is a “world of difference” between Hamas and the Palestinians? I agree. The IDF are racists, illegal occupiers of land that does not belong to them and war criminals. The Palestinians, including Hamas, are allowed under international law to resist illegal occupation. I personally disapprove of all violence and would like to see both sides lay down their arms and wage peace instead of war. But blaming the victim and pretending that the victimizer is really the victim, as you do, is unconscionable.

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15678 jaime Wed, 05 Mar 2008 01:22:12 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15678 Ashkenazi bombardiers eh? I know that this explanation is lost on you, so I'll be brief. There's a world of difference in the IDF responding to attacks from Hamas. And it's assymetrical warfare. The Hamas guys deliberately use and sacrifice their own people as cover for attacks. The IDF wouldn't be flying over Gaza if not for the rocket and mortar attacks. No other country would put up with being attacked like that across their borders. Unless of course you're rabidly antisemitic and condemn the rights of Jews to defend themselves. We've seen that before here too. Plenty of times. Ashkenazi bombardiers eh?

I know that this explanation is lost on you, so I’ll be brief. There’s a world of difference in the IDF responding to attacks from Hamas.

And it’s assymetrical warfare. The Hamas guys deliberately use and sacrifice their own people as cover for attacks.

The IDF wouldn’t be flying over Gaza if not for the rocket and mortar attacks.

No other country would put up with being attacked like that across their borders.
Unless of course you’re rabidly antisemitic and condemn the rights of Jews to defend themselves.

We’ve seen that before here too. Plenty of times.

]]> By: Ray Ralph http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15672 Ray Ralph Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:45:24 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15672 The problem, Jaime, is that when IDF bombadiers (how many of them are Ashkanazi immigrants from Europe?) fly over Palestinian homes and villages and drop bombs which kill innocent men, women, children and even babies, you do think that these barbaric war crimes are both "civilized" and an "intelligent expression" of social justice. For shame! The problem, Jaime, is that when IDF bombadiers (how many of them are Ashkanazi immigrants from Europe?) fly over Palestinian homes and villages and drop bombs which kill innocent men, women, children and even babies, you do think that these barbaric war crimes are both “civilized” and an “intelligent expression” of social justice. For shame!

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15659 jaime Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:05:25 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15659 Y'know, all kinds of immigrant groups and come through Paris and France. There were numbers of Russians in the aftermath of the Russian Revolution and WW1, Vietnamese in the mid 20th century, but none are remembered to have been as ethnically divisive or as restive as the North Africans, Berbers and Arabs, or more particularly their descendants. Maybe you think that burning cars and rioting is intelligent expression and "social justice." I don't. Neither do the French. Y’know, all kinds of immigrant groups and come through Paris and France.
There were numbers of Russians in the aftermath of the Russian Revolution and WW1, Vietnamese in the mid 20th century, but none are remembered to have been as ethnically divisive or as restive as the North Africans, Berbers and Arabs, or more particularly their descendants.

Maybe you think that burning cars and rioting is intelligent expression and “social justice.”

I don’t.

Neither do the French.

]]> By: maryb http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15655 maryb Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:38:30 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15655 Got you - you failed to copy the important bit. Muslim people corralled into ghettoes, massive unemployment, police oppression and yes your crowning glory Mr Sarkozeeeeeeeeeeeeee (ex Mossad operative and of Jewish stock) is falling in the popularity stakes and municipal elections are looming. Sounds very much a police state to me and who is setting the fireworks off? ___________________________________________________ THIS IS THE REST OF THE ARTICLE LINKED ABOVE GOOD PEOPLE ___________________________________________________ ................... Violence flared in Villiers-le-Bel and surrounding towns on November 25 after two teenagers died in a motorbike crash with a police car. During three nights of rioting, some officers were hit by gunfire and the clashes left 119 police officers injured, five seriously, according to justice ministry figures. No figure has been given for casualties among the young rioters. In December, police handed out leaflets in the area calling for witnesses to the shots fired. The leaflets offered rewards, going up to several thousand euros (dollars), for information and said sources could remain anonymous. Sources close to the inquiry, said at least three people came forward to give information that pointed to the role of two brothers in Villiers-le-Bel. President Nicolas Sarkozy said immediately after the riots that everything would be done to find those responsible for the attacks. "That cannot rest unpunished, it is an absolute priority," he said. Tensions have run high in France's high-immigration suburbs since the country's worst civil unrest in decades in 2005. Sarkozy this month launched an aid programme for France's poor suburbs, where the populations have a high proportion of African immigrants and where youth unemployment runs around 40 percent. But the president also vowed a "war without mercy" against crime. Segolene Royal, the Socialist candidate who lost to Sarkozy in the presidential election, criticised the raids as a "police operation for the media" just before municipal elections in France. ends Got you – you failed to copy the important bit. Muslim people corralled into ghettoes, massive unemployment, police oppression and yes your crowning glory Mr Sarkozeeeeeeeeeeeeee (ex Mossad operative and of Jewish stock) is falling in the popularity stakes and municipal elections are looming. Sounds very much a police state to me and who is setting the fireworks off?
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THIS IS THE REST OF THE ARTICLE LINKED ABOVE GOOD PEOPLE
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Violence flared in Villiers-le-Bel and surrounding towns on November 25 after two teenagers died in a motorbike crash with a police car.

During three nights of rioting, some officers were hit by gunfire and the clashes left 119 police officers injured, five seriously, according to justice ministry figures. No figure has been given for casualties among the young rioters.

In December, police handed out leaflets in the area calling for witnesses to the shots fired.

The leaflets offered rewards, going up to several thousand euros (dollars), for information and said sources could remain anonymous.

Sources close to the inquiry, said at least three people came forward to give information that pointed to the role of two brothers in Villiers-le-Bel.

President Nicolas Sarkozy said immediately after the riots that everything would be done to find those responsible for the attacks. “That cannot rest unpunished, it is an absolute priority,” he said.

Tensions have run high in France’s high-immigration suburbs since the country’s worst civil unrest in decades in 2005.

Sarkozy this month launched an aid programme for France’s poor suburbs, where the populations have a high proportion of African immigrants and where youth unemployment runs around 40 percent.

But the president also vowed a “war without mercy” against crime.

Segolene Royal, the Socialist candidate who lost to Sarkozy in the presidential election, criticised the raids as a “police operation for the media” just before municipal elections in France.

ends

]]> By: Ekosmo http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15654 Ekosmo Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:28:59 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15654 ...on the other hand, if one recalls what occurred one night in Germany -- Nov. 9, 1938 -- one can just about imagine Reinhard Heydrich [Sicherheitspolizei chief of staff] intoning words rather similar to the...er... 'sentiments' expressed above... viz: "Expect more and similar events like this to come, as the Germans continue to learn to appreciate the cultural benefits of these nice folks from Belorussia, Ukraine, Latvia etc." …on the other hand,

if one recalls what occurred one night in Germany — Nov. 9, 1938

– one can just about imagine Reinhard Heydrich [Sicherheitspolizei chief of staff] intoning words rather similar to the…er… ‘sentiments’ expressed above…

viz:

“Expect more and similar events like this to come, as the Germans continue to learn to appreciate the cultural benefits of these nice folks from Belorussia, Ukraine, Latvia etc.”

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15647 jaime Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:00:42 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15647 Expect more and similar events like this to come, as the French continue to learn to appreciate the cultural benefits of these nice folks from Algeria, Morocco etc. http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hAbAjjswntrIqxsmUHe2pe1cMFmQ French police swoop on Paris riot town Feb 17, 2008 VILLIERS-LE-BEL, France, Feb 18, 2008 (AFP) — Hundreds of French police, including special forces, raided a troubled Paris suburb at dawn Monday to round up suspected ringleaders of riots last year. Police said they had detained 33 of the 38 people on their target list during one of the biggest operations of its kind ever staged in France. Members of the RAID special police force, led the operation on about 10 apartment blocks in Villiers-le-Bel and surrounding districts, north of the capital, which was the focus of three nights of serious riots from November 25. A column of armoured vehicles brought the police into the town under cover of dark. While some guarded the building entrances, groups of 30 police then raided each apartment, according to an AFP correspondent at the scene. A special "anti-gang" armoured car, bullet- and firebomb-proof, was used as the command centre as police headed for different apartments searching for suspects and evidence. "I have never seen a police operation of this scope," prosecutor Marie-Therese de Givry told a press conference staged at the town's McDonald's burger restaurant. "I hope that the inhabitants will understand that we are there to re-establish order and peace," she added.... Expect more and similar events like this to come, as the French continue to learn to appreciate the cultural benefits of these nice folks from Algeria, Morocco etc.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hAbAjjswntrIqxsmUHe2pe1cMFmQ

French police swoop on Paris riot town

Feb 17, 2008

VILLIERS-LE-BEL, France, Feb 18, 2008 (AFP) — Hundreds of French police, including special forces, raided a troubled Paris suburb at dawn Monday to round up suspected ringleaders of riots last year.

Police said they had detained 33 of the 38 people on their target list during one of the biggest operations of its kind ever staged in France.

Members of the RAID special police force, led the operation on about 10 apartment blocks in Villiers-le-Bel and surrounding districts, north of the capital, which was the focus of three nights of serious riots from November 25.

A column of armoured vehicles brought the police into the town under cover of dark.

While some guarded the building entrances, groups of 30 police then raided each apartment, according to an AFP correspondent at the scene.

A special “anti-gang” armoured car, bullet- and firebomb-proof, was used as the command centre as police headed for different apartments searching for suspects and evidence.

“I have never seen a police operation of this scope,” prosecutor Marie-Therese de Givry told a press conference staged at the town’s McDonald’s burger restaurant.

“I hope that the inhabitants will understand that we are there to re-establish order and peace,” she added….

]]> By: maryb http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15633 maryb Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:27:51 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15633 'A book fair in Paris has become the subject of controversy with several Muslim countries announcing boycotts because the guest of honour is Israel. Saudi Arabia has become the latest to withdraw, following Iran, Lebanon, Yemen, Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria. The Islamic Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (Isesco) has also urged its 50 members to pull out from the fair, which starts on 14 March. Isesco said Israel had committed crimes against humanity in Palestinian areas. The organisers of the book fair have said their aim is to honour literature and promote dialogue between cultures'. _______________________________________________________This has been reported on BBC News today. ‘A book fair in Paris has become the subject of controversy with several Muslim countries announcing boycotts because the guest of honour is Israel. Saudi Arabia has become the latest to withdraw, following Iran, Lebanon, Yemen, Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria.

The Islamic Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (Isesco) has also urged its 50 members to pull out from the fair, which starts on 14 March. Isesco said Israel had committed crimes against humanity in Palestinian areas.

The organisers of the book fair have said their aim is to honour literature and promote dialogue between cultures’.
_______________________________________________________This has been reported on BBC News today.

]]> By: Ray Ralph http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15631 Ray Ralph Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:55:11 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15631 Which Israeli babies (or other Israeli civilians) were killed last week by bombs dropped by Iranians or even by Arabs? The answer is : NONE. How many Palestinian babies were killed by bombs dropped by Israelis last week? The answer: 4. How many other Palestinians were killed by bombs dropped by Israelis last week? The answer: over a hundred. And you have the effrontery to ask me if I'm kidding. Am I correct in assuming that you could not keep a straight face when you were posing the question? Such obtuseness, Jaime, does not speak well for your intellectual and critical abilities and only makes you look bad. Which Israeli babies (or other Israeli civilians) were killed last week by bombs dropped by Iranians or even by Arabs? The answer is : NONE. How many Palestinian babies were killed by bombs dropped by Israelis last week? The answer: 4. How many other Palestinians were killed by bombs dropped by Israelis last week? The answer: over a hundred. And you have the effrontery to ask me if I’m kidding. Am I correct in assuming that you could not keep a straight face when you were posing the question? Such obtuseness, Jaime, does not speak well for your intellectual and critical abilities and only makes you look bad.

]]> By: maryb http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15620 maryb Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:56:43 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15620 Read and learn, read and learn Jaime. This is a brand new article by Felicity Arbuthnot called Advancing the Peace which is published on Global Research. Unlike you, she has a deep concern and love for humanity which shines out like a light. She also shows a complete understanding of Middle East politics acquired from her long experience and personal observations in Iraq. Therefore she speaks with great knowledge. Do not attempt to denigrate her or her work - she would be way above all that pettiness. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8250 Read and learn, read and learn Jaime.

This is a brand new article by Felicity Arbuthnot called Advancing the Peace which is published on Global Research. Unlike you, she has a deep concern and love for humanity which shines out like a light. She also shows a complete understanding of Middle East politics acquired from her long experience and personal observations in Iraq. Therefore she speaks with great knowledge. Do not attempt to denigrate her or her work – she would be way above all that pettiness.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8250

]]> By: Ray Ralph http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15608 Ray Ralph Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:37:47 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15608 Jaime (being his typical racist self) says "It's the Arabs and Iranians who kill the gays who get outed." Matthew Shepherd, I suppose, was killed by Iranians! I wonder if Sephardi chief rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu has yet found a justification in Jewish ethics for stoning gays to death. I'm sure he is looking for one. Jaime forgets to say that it's the Israelis who kill babies because of their "collectively guilt" for the deeds of adults. And yes, rabbi Eliyahu has found justification in Jewish ethics for this evil deed. And despite this we are supposed to think that Israelis are somehow more moral and civilized than Arabs and Iranians, neither of whom have dropped bombs on any babies this week. Jaime (being his typical racist self) says “It’s the Arabs and Iranians who kill the gays who get outed.” Matthew Shepherd, I suppose, was killed by Iranians! I wonder if Sephardi chief rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu has yet found a justification in Jewish ethics for stoning gays to death. I’m sure he is looking for one.
Jaime forgets to say that it’s the Israelis who kill babies because of their “collectively guilt” for the deeds of adults. And yes, rabbi Eliyahu has found justification in Jewish ethics for this evil deed. And despite this we are supposed to think that Israelis are somehow more moral and civilized than Arabs and Iranians, neither of whom have dropped bombs on any babies this week.

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15603 Mulga Mumblebrain Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:08:41 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15603 Good onya, Ray. It's reminiscent of the Yesha Council of Torah Sages and Rabbis during the war against Lebanon in 2006. The good Rabbis announced that the prohibition on killing civilians in time of war was 'Christian morality'. In Jewish religious law killing civilians during conflict was , they decreed,actually a mitzvah, or good act. Now, of course, I'm not saying every Israeli or Jew is a slavering child-murderer. Indeed many decent Israelis and other Jews resolutely resist their country and their people's descent into neo-Nazi brutality. But, as our little mate jaime, visibly chafing at the lack of opportunity to demonstrate his martial valour, but gallantly leading, from the rear, in his bunker in a steam-bath near you, shows, some Jews and many Israelis get a definite buzz from killing basically defenseless civilians. This coming from a people so recently treated in similar fashion, if even worse degree, is an infamy and moral tragedy at the same time. Speaking of jaime, the Kook quote was from Israel Shahak's revealing ' JewishReligious Fundamentalism in Israel', and the exact quote is,' The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews-all of them in all different levels- is greater and deeper then the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle'. No doubt jaime will now demand a tape-recording.Now, no-one is suggesting this attitude is omnipresent in Israel, but it certainly is widespread. I guess I must ask jaime if he himself holds such an opinion, and what is his opinion on the views of Jewish religious extremists who, apart from believing that the killing of civilians is a 'good deed', also advocate the death penalty for homosexuality. Ouch! Good onya, Ray. It’s reminiscent of the Yesha Council of Torah Sages and Rabbis during the war against Lebanon in 2006. The good Rabbis announced that the prohibition on killing civilians in time of war was ‘Christian morality’. In Jewish religious law killing civilians during conflict was , they decreed,actually a mitzvah, or good act. Now, of course, I’m not saying every Israeli or Jew is a slavering child-murderer. Indeed many decent Israelis and other Jews resolutely resist their country and their people’s descent into neo-Nazi brutality. But, as our little mate jaime, visibly chafing at the lack of opportunity to demonstrate his martial valour, but gallantly leading, from the rear, in his bunker in a steam-bath near you, shows, some Jews and many Israelis get a definite buzz from killing basically defenseless civilians. This coming from a people so recently treated in similar fashion, if even worse degree, is an infamy and moral tragedy at the same time. Speaking of jaime, the Kook quote was from Israel Shahak’s revealing ‘ JewishReligious Fundamentalism in Israel’, and the exact quote is,’ The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews-all of them in all different levels- is greater and deeper then the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle’. No doubt jaime will now demand a tape-recording.Now, no-one is suggesting this attitude is omnipresent in Israel, but it certainly is widespread. I guess I must ask jaime if he himself holds such an opinion, and what is his opinion on the views of Jewish religious extremists who, apart from believing that the killing of civilians is a ‘good deed’, also advocate the death penalty for homosexuality. Ouch!

]]> By: Ray Ralph http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15601 Ray Ralph Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:31:00 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15601 Right now, Jaime, it is not Hamas, but the vicious and murderous IDF that is deliberately and indiscriminately targeting civilian populations in Gaza. They slaughtered over 100 innocents last week alone, several of whom were babies. Following the suggestion of chief rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu (whose name will live forever in infamy along with those of Himmler and Eichmann), the IDF is even killing babies for the alleged crime of being "collectively guilty" of firing Kassam rockets. What evil and horror the wretched Zionist enterprise has loosed upon the earth. And you defend the evil of the Zionist pariah state, Jaime. Shame on you!!! Right now, Jaime, it is not Hamas, but the vicious and murderous IDF that is deliberately and indiscriminately targeting civilian populations in Gaza. They slaughtered over 100 innocents last week alone, several of whom were babies. Following the suggestion of chief rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu (whose name will live forever in infamy along with those of Himmler and Eichmann), the IDF is even killing babies for the alleged crime of being “collectively guilty” of firing Kassam rockets. What evil and horror the wretched Zionist enterprise has loosed upon the earth. And you defend the evil of the Zionist pariah state, Jaime. Shame on you!!!

]]> By: Ray Ralph http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15600 Ray Ralph Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:20:55 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15600 Back in May 2007 former Sephardi chief rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu advocated carpet bombing Gaza. Eliyahu maintained that there was absolutely no prohibition in Jewish ethics against the indiscriminate killing of civilians during a potential massive military offensive on Gaza. Eliyahu maintained that the entire population of Gaza was "collectively responsible" for the firing of Kassam rockets on Sderot. The chief rabbi advocated carpet bombing Gaza "regardless of the price in Palestinian life." To justify his position, Eliyahu quoted from Psalms: "I will pursue my enemies and apprehend them and I will not desist until I have eradicated them." Eliyahu's son, Shmuel Eilyahu, the chief rabbi of Safed, was quoted as saying: "If they do not stop after we kill 100, then we must kill a thousand. And if they do not stop after 1,000 then we must kill 10,000. If they still do not stop we must kill 100,000, even a million. Whatever it takes to make them stop." The position of Orthodox Jewry is clear: Palestinians must be eradicated. The Shoah has begun!!! The source of these quotations is the Jerusalem Post, May 30, 2007. It was widely quoted elsewhere as well (except in the Zionist controlled American mainstream press). Back in May 2007 former Sephardi chief rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu advocated carpet bombing Gaza. Eliyahu maintained that there was absolutely no prohibition in Jewish ethics against the indiscriminate killing of civilians during a potential massive military offensive on Gaza. Eliyahu maintained that the entire population of Gaza was “collectively responsible” for the firing of Kassam rockets on Sderot. The chief rabbi advocated carpet bombing Gaza “regardless of the price in Palestinian life.” To justify his position, Eliyahu quoted from Psalms: “I will pursue my enemies and apprehend them and I will not desist until I have eradicated them.” Eliyahu’s son, Shmuel Eilyahu, the chief rabbi of Safed, was quoted as saying: “If they do not stop after we kill 100, then we must kill a thousand. And if they do not stop after 1,000 then we must kill 10,000. If they still do not stop we must kill 100,000, even a million. Whatever it takes to make them stop.” The position of Orthodox Jewry is clear: Palestinians must be eradicated. The Shoah has begun!!! The source of these quotations is the Jerusalem Post, May 30, 2007. It was widely quoted elsewhere as well (except in the Zionist controlled American mainstream press).

]]> By: Ekosmo http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15593 Ekosmo Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:23:10 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15593 who the F*ck mentioned Rabbi Kook...? dontcha know that gits him all agitated an upset...??? For Chrissakes, somebody go get him a "source"..... an while you're there, ask Nurse Ratchetstein tuh come an change his diaper He's startin' to stink the place out agin... who the F*ck mentioned Rabbi Kook…?

dontcha know that gits him all agitated an upset…???

For Chrissakes, somebody go get him a “source”…..
an while you’re there, ask Nurse Ratchetstein tuh come an change his diaper

He’s startin’ to stink the place out agin…

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15586 jaime Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:41:54 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15586 This is utter bullshit too: Another of Mulga's sick and racist fantasies. The Hamas purposely sacrifice their own people as human shields as they wage war. They're the ones guilty of war crimes if anybody. Plus, they deliberately target civilian populations with these random missile and mortar attacks. This is utter bullshit too: Another of Mulga’s sick and racist fantasies.
The Hamas purposely sacrifice their own people as human shields as they wage war. They’re the ones guilty of war crimes if anybody. Plus, they deliberately target civilian populations with these random missile and mortar attacks.

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15580 jaime Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:09:46 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15580 Blah blah blah.... Show us a bona fide source for your disgusting quote for Rabbi Kook, Mulga. That's OK, I'll wait. Blah blah blah…. Show us a bona fide source for your disgusting quote for Rabbi Kook, Mulga.
That’s OK, I’ll wait.

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15577 Mulga Mumblebrain Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:17:41 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-will-no-one-hear-our-voice/#comment-15577 jaime, the exact position of orthodox Jewry was pithily summed up by Rabbi Kook the Elder, who stated, 'There is a greater difference between the soul of a Jew and a non-Jew than there is between the soul of a non-Jew and an animal'. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. The Israeli state has no compunction in targeting children, bombing mosques, schools, hospitals, shops, fleeing and terrorised, civilians waving white flags; we know the wretched reality . Civilian targets are bombed on the fraudulent excuse that a 'terrorwist' was somewhere in vicinity. Murder by reckless negligence is still murder. And then they lie, with fiendish relish and practised accomplishment. As various Israeli rabbinical authorities have stated over and over again, the murder of civilians in time of war is not only acceptable, once again illustrating Judaic contempt for international law, and the religious conviction that Jews are above mere human law, but is in fact a mitzvah, or good deed. Still, opposition to Israeli Nazism is not merely a matter of rescuing the Palestinians from monsters of sadism and cowardly cruelty. We must rescue the Israelis and Jews themselves from evil. Despite the lurid phantasies, or cynical lies, of the jaimes, no-one wishes to exterminate the Jews. Indeed the use of the victims of the Judeocide in this manner, as some type of justification for the barbaric mistreatment of another people, is a moral crime of incalculable infamy. As Israel and Jewry slip deeper and deeper into neo-Nazi crimes, as more and more transmogrify into creatures like jaime, who exult in cruelty and murder, a ghastly process of transference is at work. I don't for a second doubt that the God-ordained cruelty of the Torah, with its endless admonitions to kill the enemy to the last woman and child play their part. Just Google Arabs as Amalek, and you can see that calls for outright extermination of the Palestinians are common in Israel, rarely criticised, and justified by allusion to the Torah story, and fable is certainly is, of God's enemy Amalek, upon whose head and that of his people, another genocide must fall. Nor do I doubt that fear and hatred born of the Judeocide play a part. But at base I feel this is a human, rather than a Jewish problem. Israel and Jews like jaime, have, in my opinion, simply become more and yet more wicked because they have got away with it. And conversely, as they are extreme racists, resistance from human beings they regard as mere animals, makes the anger the greater. Precisely as with the Nazis, or the English after the First Indian War of Independence. Even worse is the rage after the Arab 'scum' actually flog 'em, as Hezbollah did in 2006. That really gets their racial supremacist egos in a lather. Which reminds me-jaime, if you're such a little Jewish hero, boasting endlessly of turning Gaza into a parking-lot, and, supposedly, fearful that the wounded and damaged Gazan children intend marching the Jews into the sea, how is it that you luxuriate in safety, steaming yourself slowly, in complete safety. No bottle, eh? jaime, the exact position of orthodox Jewry was pithily summed up by Rabbi Kook the Elder, who stated, ‘There is a greater difference between the soul of a Jew and a non-Jew than there is between the soul of a non-Jew and an animal’. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. The Israeli state has no compunction in targeting children, bombing mosques, schools, hospitals, shops, fleeing and terrorised, civilians waving white flags; we know the wretched reality . Civilian targets are bombed on the fraudulent excuse that a ‘terrorwist’ was somewhere in vicinity. Murder by reckless negligence is still murder. And then they lie, with fiendish relish and practised accomplishment. As various Israeli rabbinical authorities have stated over and over again, the murder of civilians in time of war is not only acceptable, once again illustrating Judaic contempt for international law, and the religious conviction that Jews are above mere human law, but is in fact a mitzvah, or good deed.
Still, opposition to Israeli Nazism is not merely a matter of rescuing the Palestinians from monsters of sadism and cowardly cruelty. We must rescue the Israelis and Jews themselves from evil. Despite the lurid phantasies, or cynical lies, of the jaimes, no-one wishes to exterminate the Jews. Indeed the use of the victims of the Judeocide in this manner, as some type of justification for the barbaric mistreatment of another people, is a moral crime of incalculable infamy. As Israel and Jewry slip deeper and deeper into neo-Nazi crimes, as more and more transmogrify into creatures like jaime, who exult in cruelty and murder, a ghastly process of transference is at work. I don’t for a second doubt that the God-ordained cruelty of the Torah, with its endless admonitions to kill the enemy to the last woman and child play their part. Just Google Arabs as Amalek, and you can see that calls for outright extermination of the Palestinians are common in Israel, rarely criticised, and justified by allusion to the Torah story, and fable is certainly is, of God’s enemy Amalek, upon whose head and that of his people, another genocide must fall. Nor do I doubt that fear and hatred born of the Judeocide play a part. But at base I feel this is a human, rather than a Jewish problem. Israel and Jews like jaime, have, in my opinion, simply become more and yet more wicked because they have got away with it. And conversely, as they are extreme racists, resistance from human beings they regard as mere animals, makes the anger the greater. Precisely as with the Nazis, or the English after the First Indian War of Independence. Even worse is the rage after the Arab ‘scum’ actually flog ‘em, as Hezbollah did in 2006. That really gets their racial supremacist egos in a lather. Which reminds me-jaime, if you’re such a little Jewish hero, boasting endlessly of turning Gaza into a parking-lot, and, supposedly, fearful that the wounded and damaged Gazan children intend marching the Jews into the sea, how is it that you luxuriate in safety, steaming yourself slowly, in complete safety. No bottle, eh?

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