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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16305</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Washington Post

    Friday 14 March 2008

    A plan by the Environmental Protection Agency to close several of its 26 research libraries did not fully account for the impact on government staffers and the public, who rely on the libraries for hard-to-find environmental data, congressional investigators reported yesterday.

    The report by the Government Accountability Office found that the EPA effort, begun in 2006 to comply with a $2 million funding cut sought by the White House, may have hurt access to materials and services in the 37-year-old library network.

    Rep. Bart Gordon (D-Tenn.), chairman of the House Science and Technology Committee, said the report reveals a &quot;grim picture&quot; of mismanagement at the EPA. The panel&#039;s oversight and investigations subcommittees held a hearing on the reorganization yesterday.

    The libraries provide technical information and documentation for enforcement cases and help EPA staff members track new environmental technologies and the health risks associated with dangerous chemicals.

    They also are repositories of scientific information that is used to back up the agency&#039;s positions on new regulations and environmental reports and data that are tapped by people such as developers and state and local officials. The collections include hard-to-find copies of documents on federal Superfund hazardous waste sites, water-quality data and the health of regional ecosystems.
   
We have work to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Washington Post</p>
<p>    Friday 14 March 2008</p>
<p>    A plan by the Environmental Protection Agency to close several of its 26 research libraries did not fully account for the impact on government staffers and the public, who rely on the libraries for hard-to-find environmental data, congressional investigators reported yesterday.</p>
<p>    The report by the Government Accountability Office found that the EPA effort, begun in 2006 to comply with a $2 million funding cut sought by the White House, may have hurt access to materials and services in the 37-year-old library network.</p>
<p>    Rep. Bart Gordon (D-Tenn.), chairman of the House Science and Technology Committee, said the report reveals a &#8220;grim picture&#8221; of mismanagement at the EPA. The panel&#8217;s oversight and investigations subcommittees held a hearing on the reorganization yesterday.</p>
<p>    The libraries provide technical information and documentation for enforcement cases and help EPA staff members track new environmental technologies and the health risks associated with dangerous chemicals.</p>
<p>    They also are repositories of scientific information that is used to back up the agency&#8217;s positions on new regulations and environmental reports and data that are tapped by people such as developers and state and local officials. The collections include hard-to-find copies of documents on federal Superfund hazardous waste sites, water-quality data and the health of regional ecosystems.</p>
<p>We have work to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16304</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opeluboy we have work to do I like that let&#039;s see if we can move that forward.  I am serious I like that I am going to use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opeluboy we have work to do I like that let&#8217;s see if we can move that forward.  I am serious I like that I am going to use it.</p>
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		<title>By: opeluboy</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16300</link>
		<dc:creator>opeluboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole story is a distraction, causing too many to lose focus on more important issues, like a war that&#039;s still going on. Who Spitzer shares his dick with means nothing to me. If he broke the law, charge him. We have work to do.

One thing, though, that does bother me is that the wife always has to be dragged before the press and the public to &quot;stand by her man.&quot; I would not ask this of my wife were I to find myself in Spitzer&#039;s position.

It would be embarrassing to have the entire world see her kick the living shit out of me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole story is a distraction, causing too many to lose focus on more important issues, like a war that&#8217;s still going on. Who Spitzer shares his dick with means nothing to me. If he broke the law, charge him. We have work to do.</p>
<p>One thing, though, that does bother me is that the wife always has to be dragged before the press and the public to &#8220;stand by her man.&#8221; I would not ask this of my wife were I to find myself in Spitzer&#8217;s position.</p>
<p>It would be embarrassing to have the entire world see her kick the living shit out of me.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16260</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, SS.  I only had to read it to know you don&#039;t have a cover-name and participated in the hitting on Evie, above.  (Which is not to say her/his comments were not distinctly interesting.)

Now I&#039;m getting the drift, as it were, of Spitzer&#039;s situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, SS.  I only had to read it to know you don&#8217;t have a cover-name and participated in the hitting on Evie, above.  (Which is not to say her/his comments were not distinctly interesting.)</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m getting the drift, as it were, of Spitzer&#8217;s situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Sherman</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16221</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David A. Smith: what surveys are you referring to?  The most extensive survey about American sexual habits found about 15% of Americans admitted to having affairs.  I&#039;ve never heard a higher figure backed by survey data, although investigating this question obviously poses immense challenges to researchers.  The number of men who admitted to buying sex from prostitutes--which is what we are talking about here, in Spitzer&#039;s case--was quite a bit lower.   Prostitution is a space of disgusting exploitation.  That is the reality more or less around the world.  Stating it has little to do with American Puritanism.  What to do about it can be a complicated question.  But Spitzer&#039;s attitude--prosecute publicly, partake privately--was reprehensible.  That is why no one rallied to his side.  An adequate sense of the reality of prostitution can be gained by asking the simple question of how would you feel to learn that a family member was a prostitute.  Most people (whatever their politics) would probably be gravely concerned for her (or his, I suppose, although there are some differences between the working conditions for men and women) safety--fear of diseases, violence from clients and employers, lasting psychological damage.  This, for me, makes prostitution a whole different category than if we were to learn that Spitzer once &#039;got some on the side&#039; while at some political conference.  To me, that would simply fall into the category of &#039;too much information&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David A. Smith: what surveys are you referring to?  The most extensive survey about American sexual habits found about 15% of Americans admitted to having affairs.  I&#8217;ve never heard a higher figure backed by survey data, although investigating this question obviously poses immense challenges to researchers.  The number of men who admitted to buying sex from prostitutes&#8211;which is what we are talking about here, in Spitzer&#8217;s case&#8211;was quite a bit lower.   Prostitution is a space of disgusting exploitation.  That is the reality more or less around the world.  Stating it has little to do with American Puritanism.  What to do about it can be a complicated question.  But Spitzer&#8217;s attitude&#8211;prosecute publicly, partake privately&#8211;was reprehensible.  That is why no one rallied to his side.  An adequate sense of the reality of prostitution can be gained by asking the simple question of how would you feel to learn that a family member was a prostitute.  Most people (whatever their politics) would probably be gravely concerned for her (or his, I suppose, although there are some differences between the working conditions for men and women) safety&#8211;fear of diseases, violence from clients and employers, lasting psychological damage.  This, for me, makes prostitution a whole different category than if we were to learn that Spitzer once &#8216;got some on the side&#8217; while at some political conference.  To me, that would simply fall into the category of &#8216;too much information&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16196</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Turn out the lights, the party&#039;s over.&quot;
No more shopping for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Turn out the lights, the party&#8217;s over.&#8221;<br />
No more shopping for you!</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16193</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Written by Dewey Bunnell, ©1976
Found on Hideaway, America Live, and Highway. 

Amber cascades all over today 
Then we walk on a crooked catwalk 
Only to be delayed 
Bubbles of blue burst into two 
Eaten up by the incoming tide 
Of the new 

Then we call to the man who walks on the water 
We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view 
It&#039;s in view 

Granite charades are played in the rain 
Till we fall through a sand castle window 
To avoid the pain 
Summer canoe paddles up to you 
&#039;Cause it&#039;s time for another beer run 
Or something that&#039;s equally true 

Then we call to the man who walks on the water 
We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view 

Then we call to the man who walks on the water 
We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view 
It&#039;s in view</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Written by Dewey Bunnell, ©1976<br />
Found on Hideaway, America Live, and Highway. </p>
<p>Amber cascades all over today<br />
Then we walk on a crooked catwalk<br />
Only to be delayed<br />
Bubbles of blue burst into two<br />
Eaten up by the incoming tide<br />
Of the new </p>
<p>Then we call to the man who walks on the water<br />
We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view<br />
It&#8217;s in view </p>
<p>Granite charades are played in the rain<br />
Till we fall through a sand castle window<br />
To avoid the pain<br />
Summer canoe paddles up to you<br />
&#8216;Cause it&#8217;s time for another beer run<br />
Or something that&#8217;s equally true </p>
<p>Then we call to the man who walks on the water<br />
We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view </p>
<p>Then we call to the man who walks on the water<br />
We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view<br />
It&#8217;s in view</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16178</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TRY to remember good folks. Amerika watches court-tv and judge judy. which makes Amerikans The Judge. They need entertainment this summer. Spitzer ought to make a more formidable opponent than most of Judge Judy’s. And all the Judges at-large, who might otherwise be attending the national circus, will be so very, very meaningfully distracted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TRY to remember good folks. Amerika watches court-tv and judge judy. which makes Amerikans The Judge. They need entertainment this summer. Spitzer ought to make a more formidable opponent than most of Judge Judy’s. And all the Judges at-large, who might otherwise be attending the national circus, will be so very, very meaningfully distracted.</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16175</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lord have mercy Kyle. The criminal Spitzer didn&#039;t become mayor of New York City, by being a fucking choir boy running around with a bible in one hand and healing the sick with the other.
Rather his dick in one hand and stolen money in the other. If he had ten hands they would also be filled with the fruits of vice, no doubt.
And please spare me the I&#039;m not any better crap, we&#039;re all sinners bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lord have mercy Kyle. The criminal Spitzer didn&#8217;t become mayor of New York City, by being a fucking choir boy running around with a bible in one hand and healing the sick with the other.<br />
Rather his dick in one hand and stolen money in the other. If he had ten hands they would also be filled with the fruits of vice, no doubt.<br />
And please spare me the I&#8217;m not any better crap, we&#8217;re all sinners bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16173</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d feel sorry for Spitzer were it not for the fact that he prosecuted prostitution rings. Just desserts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d feel sorry for Spitzer were it not for the fact that he prosecuted prostitution rings. Just desserts.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle foley</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16172</link>
		<dc:creator>kyle foley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have just witnessed the resignation 
of the governor of new york, Lord.
although only in office for a year,
as attorney general
he courageously attacked the wealthy,
he wrangled their greed in razor-coil,
and he punished their gluttony of cattle.
rather than become captive to luxury&#039;s spice,
and wholly subject to its intoxo-junk,
he instead fought for the poor&#039;s falcon-freedom,
their lot striving to uplift and illumobellish.

sadly he was also intensely suffocated
by lust&#039;s merchants of night-death,
his spirit cruelly hijacked by its oven,
ever his self by its onslaught flooded. 
unfortunately the femme&#039;s eyes of diamomazement,
her hair-silk and lips of merlot
eviscerated his reason and robbed him
of the elysian serenity of rationality.

lust kills, Lord, it ostracizes the spirit to fen,
it enmaggots the soul with howl,
and it inspires dissonance and cacophony within.
had i an abundance of luxo-wealth and rave-power, Lord,
it could very easily have been me
who was just now bludgeoned and decapitated,
me who was encompassed by the shadow,
me who was subsumed in night-thunder.

i pray more free from lust&#039;s talons to be,
less surrounded by its paratroopers of slice,
its noxio-annoyo siren reduced to a whisper, 
rather than an ocean-defeaned roar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have just witnessed the resignation<br />
of the governor of new york, Lord.<br />
although only in office for a year,<br />
as attorney general<br />
he courageously attacked the wealthy,<br />
he wrangled their greed in razor-coil,<br />
and he punished their gluttony of cattle.<br />
rather than become captive to luxury&#8217;s spice,<br />
and wholly subject to its intoxo-junk,<br />
he instead fought for the poor&#8217;s falcon-freedom,<br />
their lot striving to uplift and illumobellish.</p>
<p>sadly he was also intensely suffocated<br />
by lust&#8217;s merchants of night-death,<br />
his spirit cruelly hijacked by its oven,<br />
ever his self by its onslaught flooded.<br />
unfortunately the femme&#8217;s eyes of diamomazement,<br />
her hair-silk and lips of merlot<br />
eviscerated his reason and robbed him<br />
of the elysian serenity of rationality.</p>
<p>lust kills, Lord, it ostracizes the spirit to fen,<br />
it enmaggots the soul with howl,<br />
and it inspires dissonance and cacophony within.<br />
had i an abundance of luxo-wealth and rave-power, Lord,<br />
it could very easily have been me<br />
who was just now bludgeoned and decapitated,<br />
me who was encompassed by the shadow,<br />
me who was subsumed in night-thunder.</p>
<p>i pray more free from lust&#8217;s talons to be,<br />
less surrounded by its paratroopers of slice,<br />
its noxio-annoyo siren reduced to a whisper,<br />
rather than an ocean-defeaned roar.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16169</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you, Evie.  I&#039;m not so mush-minded I can&#039;t recognize a compliment.  And a fellow...believer that God does roll dice, if (s) he exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you, Evie.  I&#8217;m not so mush-minded I can&#8217;t recognize a compliment.  And a fellow&#8230;believer that God does roll dice, if (s) he exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Evie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16168</link>
		<dc:creator>Evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Lloyd.

As for Willie Shakespear - what a funkster. Life has been quite a wondrous journey, even with the low valleys and pits and sometimes a little luck and pluck, I wish I had another 60 years - but maybe such sounds/words  makes me an idiot, full of furious nothing.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lloyd.</p>
<p>As for Willie Shakespear &#8211; what a funkster. Life has been quite a wondrous journey, even with the low valleys and pits and sometimes a little luck and pluck, I wish I had another 60 years &#8211; but maybe such sounds/words  makes me an idiot, full of furious nothing.</p>
<p>;)</p>
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		<title>By: kyle foley</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16167</link>
		<dc:creator>kyle foley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is obvious, Lord, what happened.
in attacking greed&#039;s worm-wench,
in confronting wall street&#039;s lash-vultures,
always their wrath-foam profligate,
his name fabulo-glittered in the press
he undoubtedly eclipsed in narcìssum,
him the bloom-flashing arbiter of justice, 
his self the new empire state building,
comet-diamond from his mind arising. 

undoubtedly he was the best 
attorney general in the nation,
no reason to believe that he would
not have become our most effective governor,
the sloth-merchants swine butchering,
their platmo-flash to smut-gold morphing.
a sudden tsunami of justice crashing,
a weird freak of sunshine 
amid an oil-ocean of savàjo.

instead the ego&#039;s wrath-talons 
his soul dispossessed, obesified,
the gremlins of arrogance surrounding him,
all sorts of warlocks of pride gunning him.

please, Lord, heal this one of our leading politicians,
guide him back into the lumino-flash of mind-treasure,
return him to the fold of beato-bliss,
the flash-beacons surrounding him,
rather than the heinous lust-warts,
cherub-blithe, moon-kiss, and silverado,
instead of junk-jaws, witch-death and gash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is obvious, Lord, what happened.<br />
in attacking greed&#8217;s worm-wench,<br />
in confronting wall street&#8217;s lash-vultures,<br />
always their wrath-foam profligate,<br />
his name fabulo-glittered in the press<br />
he undoubtedly eclipsed in narcìssum,<br />
him the bloom-flashing arbiter of justice,<br />
his self the new empire state building,<br />
comet-diamond from his mind arising. </p>
<p>undoubtedly he was the best<br />
attorney general in the nation,<br />
no reason to believe that he would<br />
not have become our most effective governor,<br />
the sloth-merchants swine butchering,<br />
their platmo-flash to smut-gold morphing.<br />
a sudden tsunami of justice crashing,<br />
a weird freak of sunshine<br />
amid an oil-ocean of savàjo.</p>
<p>instead the ego&#8217;s wrath-talons<br />
his soul dispossessed, obesified,<br />
the gremlins of arrogance surrounding him,<br />
all sorts of warlocks of pride gunning him.</p>
<p>please, Lord, heal this one of our leading politicians,<br />
guide him back into the lumino-flash of mind-treasure,<br />
return him to the fold of beato-bliss,<br />
the flash-beacons surrounding him,<br />
rather than the heinous lust-warts,<br />
cherub-blithe, moon-kiss, and silverado,<br />
instead of junk-jaws, witch-death and gash.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16164</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ATLANTA (AP) — Under pressure from Congress, the government released a controversial draft report Wednesday that suggests pollution is causing health problems in some parts of the Great Lakes states, including cancer and premature births.

The document was produced by scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But CDC administrators quickly distanced themselves from the work, saying that some of the science is weak, and that they released it after accusations of a cover-up.

CDC officials also said they have asked an independent scientific advisory organization — the Institute of Medicine — to review the drafts and give its own assessment of the work&#039;s quality.

&quot;We&#039;re sending it to the best scientific body in the country. They can tell us whether we were justified or not&quot; in having misgivings about the science, said Dr. Henry Falk, who oversees CDC research on environmental health hazards.

It&#039;s unusual — but not unheard of — for the institute to review CDC research. It is expected to finish its assessment by the end of June, CDC officials said.

The CDC had been under fire from some congressmen for withholding the documents and for reassigning the scientist in charge of the project, Christopher De Rosa, to lesser duties.

Some lawmakers said they believe De Rosa was reassigned because he pushed for release of important information.

  I wonder what are the numbers of men ,wife&#039;s, daughters, son&#039;s living along those lakes?  Who told the CDC to hold this information?  “Life is a tale told by an idiot — full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”  Especially when trying to tell truth to power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATLANTA (AP) — Under pressure from Congress, the government released a controversial draft report Wednesday that suggests pollution is causing health problems in some parts of the Great Lakes states, including cancer and premature births.</p>
<p>The document was produced by scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But CDC administrators quickly distanced themselves from the work, saying that some of the science is weak, and that they released it after accusations of a cover-up.</p>
<p>CDC officials also said they have asked an independent scientific advisory organization — the Institute of Medicine — to review the drafts and give its own assessment of the work&#8217;s quality.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re sending it to the best scientific body in the country. They can tell us whether we were justified or not&#8221; in having misgivings about the science, said Dr. Henry Falk, who oversees CDC research on environmental health hazards.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s unusual — but not unheard of — for the institute to review CDC research. It is expected to finish its assessment by the end of June, CDC officials said.</p>
<p>The CDC had been under fire from some congressmen for withholding the documents and for reassigning the scientist in charge of the project, Christopher De Rosa, to lesser duties.</p>
<p>Some lawmakers said they believe De Rosa was reassigned because he pushed for release of important information.</p>
<p>  I wonder what are the numbers of men ,wife&#8217;s, daughters, son&#8217;s living along those lakes?  Who told the CDC to hold this information?  “Life is a tale told by an idiot — full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”  Especially when trying to tell truth to power.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16163</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DR.  It depends on what you mean by &quot;judge.&quot;  I personally think &quot;it&#039;s all luck.&quot;  And I could explain why I also think this viewpoint is so unacceptable to people today, but it would be just be more historico-scientific blah blah.  The point is, because each us lives a life determined by luck, it&#039;s absurd to &quot;judge&quot; each other in the sense you sound like you attribute to me.  I don&#039;t judge people in a juridical, philosophical, religious or moral sense.  Only in terms of what I, needless to say I, consider to be the social consequences of their behaviors.  Or, to put it another way, Hitler&#039;s only punishment or reward for his actions, like that of all of us, resides in the impact his life has had and will have on mankind.   Ditto for Jesus.  

I do think everyone&#039;s actions and thoughts have real world consequences, and they act and think in ways that have real world consequences in terms of life, death, and suffering.  Moreover, it&#039;s almost trite to say, taking no position is equivalent to deferring to the powers that be. 

Now,  I honestly don&#039;t know if I&#039;ve finished with this post.  It&#039;s quite a while past my rigorous-thinking time, and I have to go.   I do know, usually when I re-read my posts after 24 hours or more have passed, they seem far less extreme or unjustified.  I hope they seem that way to others.

Smiley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DR.  It depends on what you mean by &#8220;judge.&#8221;  I personally think &#8220;it&#8217;s all luck.&#8221;  And I could explain why I also think this viewpoint is so unacceptable to people today, but it would be just be more historico-scientific blah blah.  The point is, because each us lives a life determined by luck, it&#8217;s absurd to &#8220;judge&#8221; each other in the sense you sound like you attribute to me.  I don&#8217;t judge people in a juridical, philosophical, religious or moral sense.  Only in terms of what I, needless to say I, consider to be the social consequences of their behaviors.  Or, to put it another way, Hitler&#8217;s only punishment or reward for his actions, like that of all of us, resides in the impact his life has had and will have on mankind.   Ditto for Jesus.  </p>
<p>I do think everyone&#8217;s actions and thoughts have real world consequences, and they act and think in ways that have real world consequences in terms of life, death, and suffering.  Moreover, it&#8217;s almost trite to say, taking no position is equivalent to deferring to the powers that be. </p>
<p>Now,  I honestly don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;ve finished with this post.  It&#8217;s quite a while past my rigorous-thinking time, and I have to go.   I do know, usually when I re-read my posts after 24 hours or more have passed, they seem far less extreme or unjustified.  I hope they seem that way to others.</p>
<p>Smiley</p>
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		<title>By: D. R. Munro</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16159</link>
		<dc:creator>D. R. Munro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lloyd, if you can show me a perfect person, then it will be a ponitification.

You know the old cliche of the glass house and the stone - well, I know that I personally have wronged people and done some awful things in my time . . . so I feel that I have NO right to judge anyone else, for it would be blatant hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lloyd, if you can show me a perfect person, then it will be a ponitification.</p>
<p>You know the old cliche of the glass house and the stone &#8211; well, I know that I personally have wronged people and done some awful things in my time . . . so I feel that I have NO right to judge anyone else, for it would be blatant hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: synicab12</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16160</link>
		<dc:creator>synicab12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evie,

I agree with every word you wrote, and by the way I am an atheist
and not a religious zealot.    Iam  left of center too.
Spitzer has built his reputation and career as morality and propriety
crusader and took pride and gloated about busting prostituion rings
and puting  prostitutes in jail.    What a hyprocite and pretender he is.
What about his humiliated wife and daughters ??   What about the average citizens who thought they had an honest  clean leader??!!
If  he was setup or singled out then he deserved it because he displayed
an utter arrogance and poor judgement and .  He thought himself invincible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evie,</p>
<p>I agree with every word you wrote, and by the way I am an atheist<br />
and not a religious zealot.    Iam  left of center too.<br />
Spitzer has built his reputation and career as morality and propriety<br />
crusader and took pride and gloated about busting prostituion rings<br />
and puting  prostitutes in jail.    What a hyprocite and pretender he is.<br />
What about his humiliated wife and daughters ??   What about the average citizens who thought they had an honest  clean leader??!!<br />
If  he was setup or singled out then he deserved it because he displayed<br />
an utter arrogance and poor judgement and .  He thought himself invincible.</p>
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		<title>By: D. R. Munro</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16158</link>
		<dc:creator>D. R. Munro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what I think, I think Evie is jealous that no other men will touch her except her husband.

Uh-huh, I just sunk that low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what I think, I think Evie is jealous that no other men will touch her except her husband.</p>
<p>Uh-huh, I just sunk that low.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/spitzer-comes-out-fighting/#comment-16151</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Life is a tale told by an idiot -- full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.&quot;    Although when Shakespeare wrote this the World was still flat, you know in many way&#039;s it still is so this still will probably work just as well today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Life is a tale told by an idiot &#8212; full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.&#8221;    Although when Shakespeare wrote this the World was still flat, you know in many way&#8217;s it still is so this still will probably work just as well today.</p>
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