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	<title>Comments on: It Wasn&#8217;t on Oprah or Fox News</title>
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		<title>By: Mike McNiven</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/it-wasnt-on-oprah-or-fox-news/#comment-15959</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McNiven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the war and BHO:

http://www.pscelebrities.com/whitelightblacklight/2008/03/obamas-good-and-proper-war-by-paul.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the war and BHO:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pscelebrities.com/whitelightblacklight/2008/03/obamas-good-and-proper-war-by-paul.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pscelebrities.com/whitelightblacklight/2008/03/obamas-good-and-proper-war-by-paul.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/it-wasnt-on-oprah-or-fox-news/#comment-15730</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And one heck of a Report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And one heck of a Report.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/it-wasnt-on-oprah-or-fox-news/#comment-15729</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most succinct comparison of Iraq and Vietnam I&#039;ve read, Mr. Blum.  Two bravos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most succinct comparison of Iraq and Vietnam I&#8217;ve read, Mr. Blum.  Two bravos!</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/it-wasnt-on-oprah-or-fox-news/#comment-15728</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You couldn&#039;t have quoted a gentler description, D.R.  It&#039;s morning here now, and I would say, &quot;Hell no, we don&#039;t give up.&quot;  I&#039;m glad I didn&#039;t read you last nite.

Are you paid to write?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You couldn&#8217;t have quoted a gentler description, D.R.  It&#8217;s morning here now, and I would say, &#8220;Hell no, we don&#8217;t give up.&#8221;  I&#8217;m glad I didn&#8217;t read you last nite.</p>
<p>Are you paid to write?</p>
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		<title>By: Oryx Orange</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/it-wasnt-on-oprah-or-fox-news/#comment-15726</link>
		<dc:creator>Oryx Orange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice choice of citation, D.R. Munro, and yet even as Pascal wrote this he saw that, contained in the paradox along with despair at the inevitability of it all, was an equal measure of hope that it was not in fact inevitable for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice choice of citation, D.R. Munro, and yet even as Pascal wrote this he saw that, contained in the paradox along with despair at the inevitability of it all, was an equal measure of hope that it was not in fact inevitable for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: D.R. Munro</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/it-wasnt-on-oprah-or-fox-news/#comment-15688</link>
		<dc:creator>D.R. Munro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please ignore the few minor spelling mistakes.  It&#039;s late.</description>
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		<title>By: D.R. Munro</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/it-wasnt-on-oprah-or-fox-news/#comment-15687</link>
		<dc:creator>D.R. Munro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hate to play the nihilist here, but sometimes I just can&#039;t help but see the world through black-tinged glasses.  This is one of those times.  One of the commentors had suggested that we all need to become &quot;more decent and intelligent,&quot; and this is indeed true.

But consider that no one really cares about any of this, and I mean that in terms of the three-hundred million Americans that make up the nation, not the slight and small minority of leftists as us here.   I would honestly declare that what the world is transforming into is an inevitable transistion out of democracy.  That is to say, if we use the same logic that Marx applied to rampant capitalism (adopted Hegelian Dialectics) and the transistion into a welfare and classless society (something that didn&#039;t happen as such, but not for lack of trying all over the world) then it seems certain that we are indeed living in post-democratic days.

Take something that is happening, look at the inverse - and that is will ascend from its ashes.  It may be better to liken it to an avalanche that has picked up too much momentum.

Does that mean we give up?  I would say not quite, but this is a timeless struggle:

&quot;Let us imagine a number of men in chains, and all condemned to death, where some are killed each day in the sight of others, and those who remain see their own fate in that of their fellows, and wait their turn, looking at each other sorrowfully and without hope.  It is an image of the condition of man.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hate to play the nihilist here, but sometimes I just can&#8217;t help but see the world through black-tinged glasses.  This is one of those times.  One of the commentors had suggested that we all need to become &#8220;more decent and intelligent,&#8221; and this is indeed true.</p>
<p>But consider that no one really cares about any of this, and I mean that in terms of the three-hundred million Americans that make up the nation, not the slight and small minority of leftists as us here.   I would honestly declare that what the world is transforming into is an inevitable transistion out of democracy.  That is to say, if we use the same logic that Marx applied to rampant capitalism (adopted Hegelian Dialectics) and the transistion into a welfare and classless society (something that didn&#8217;t happen as such, but not for lack of trying all over the world) then it seems certain that we are indeed living in post-democratic days.</p>
<p>Take something that is happening, look at the inverse &#8211; and that is will ascend from its ashes.  It may be better to liken it to an avalanche that has picked up too much momentum.</p>
<p>Does that mean we give up?  I would say not quite, but this is a timeless struggle:</p>
<p>&#8220;Let us imagine a number of men in chains, and all condemned to death, where some are killed each day in the sight of others, and those who remain see their own fate in that of their fellows, and wait their turn, looking at each other sorrowfully and without hope.  It is an image of the condition of man.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rosemarie jackowski</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/it-wasnt-on-oprah-or-fox-news/#comment-15664</link>
		<dc:creator>rosemarie jackowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is another Blum masterpiece. Thanks, Bill. 
I was watching it on C-span when Prince made the statement (your # 24) that all life is precious....could not believe my ears. How can any human be capable of such dishonesty  (and be so good at it) ! Obviously, he has had a lot of experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another Blum masterpiece. Thanks, Bill.<br />
I was watching it on C-span when Prince made the statement (your # 24) that all life is precious&#8230;.could not believe my ears. How can any human be capable of such dishonesty  (and be so good at it) ! Obviously, he has had a lot of experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert B. Livingston</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/it-wasnt-on-oprah-or-fox-news/#comment-15657</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert B. Livingston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blum&#039;s  important reminder that more than waterboarding has occurred and his retelling of Shaw&#039;s concept of decency, intelligence and how they relate to fascism is appreciated.  

Clearly, those that assist the Bush Regime are either offensive or stupid.

To undo it we must all become more decent and intelligent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blum&#8217;s  important reminder that more than waterboarding has occurred and his retelling of Shaw&#8217;s concept of decency, intelligence and how they relate to fascism is appreciated.  </p>
<p>Clearly, those that assist the Bush Regime are either offensive or stupid.</p>
<p>To undo it we must all become more decent and intelligent.</p>
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		<title>By: Oryx Orange</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/it-wasnt-on-oprah-or-fox-news/#comment-15649</link>
		<dc:creator>Oryx Orange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This concisely-written synthesis of numerous spinspeak examples illustrates perfectly the misguided emphasis that the media places on words over deeds. The press release and sound bite have come to be regarded as actions themselves, whereas in fact each is nothing more than another piece of commentary. If you accept that all commentary is opinion, then you have to conclude that reporting (ie. commenting) on commentary is nothing more than gossip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This concisely-written synthesis of numerous spinspeak examples illustrates perfectly the misguided emphasis that the media places on words over deeds. The press release and sound bite have come to be regarded as actions themselves, whereas in fact each is nothing more than another piece of commentary. If you accept that all commentary is opinion, then you have to conclude that reporting (ie. commenting) on commentary is nothing more than gossip.</p>
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