Vanunu: A Man Without a Country Has a Local and Global Community

On February 19, 2008, Vanunu wrote: “The court hearing today Feb. 19, was again postponed, because of a small snow here. We are waiting for the next hearing date soon.”

On July 2, 2007, an Israeli court sentenced Vanunu, to six more months in jail for violating a ban imposed on him in 2004, forbidding him to speak to foreigners. Two days before President Bush landed in Tel Aviv and a day before Vanunu’s appeal was to begin, Israel sentenced him to community service instead.

On Feb. 5, 2008, Vanunu met with prison officials to arrange community service and learned that to his “surprise they say there is no community service in East Jerusalem. I told them the agreement for community service was on this condition that it will be only in the East Jerusalem. They say no one told them about this… I will do community service in the East Jerusalem or the appeal begins and may be the prison sentence.”

After an historic year and half long freedom of speech trial, Vanunu was convicted of 14 parole violations including contact with foreign journalists in 2004 and for attempting to attend Christmas Eve mass at the Church of the Nativity, five miles away in occupied Bethlehem.

Vanunu has lived on the east side of Jerusalem, the Palestinian side of town since his release from 18 years in Ashkelon Prison on April 21, 2004.

West Jerusalem, is 99% Jewish and has never been Vanunu’s community.

“I went three times to West Jerusalem by taxi because I had to go to the Supreme Court. All three times some right wing extremist Jews shouted and threatened me. My community is the Lutheran Church in the Old City, the Palestinians on the streets and internationals. I have met with hundreds, thousands- probably even five thousand people since 2004.”

Everyone who talks with Vanunu on the street, on the phone or by email understands that they are being monitored by cogs in the industrial security-surveillance complex.

On February 13, 2008, Washington Post Staff Writer Paul Kane wrote: “The Senate yesterday approved a sweeping measure that would expand the government’s clandestine surveillance powers, delivering a key victory to the White House by approving the telecom immunity provision… the Senate approved the reauthorization of a law that would give the government greater powers to eavesdrop in terrorism and intelligence cases without obtaining warrants from a secret court… The most important change approved by the Senate yesterday would make permanent a law approved last August that expanded the government’s authority to intercept — without a court order — the phone calls and e-mails of people in the United States communicating with others overseas.”

That news was ignored by ABC, CBS and NBC. The MSM has also failed to report that on January 28, 2006, Vanunu’s historic freedom of speech trial began and that on February 22, 2006 it was revealed that Israel had asked Microsoft to hand over all the details of Vanunu’s Hotmail account before a court order had been obtained.

Vanunu: “Microsoft obeyed the orders and gave them all the details… three months before I was arrested and my computers were confiscated…it is strange to ask Microsoft to give this information before obtaining the court order to listen to my private conversations. It means they wanted to go through my emails in secret, or maybe, with the help of the secret services, the Shaback, Mossad… Sfard [Vanunu's attorney] proved that the police had misled the judges who gave the orders to arrest me: to search my room, to go through my email, to confiscate my computers and that they misled Microsoft to believe they are helping in a case of espionage. The State came to the court with two special secret Government orders; Hisaion [documents or information that are deemed confidential by the government and kept from the court, the defendant, and lawyers.] This allows the prosecution to keep documents related to my court hearing secret. One was from the Minister for Interior Security and one from the Minister of Defense.”

Vanunu’s secretly taped police interrogations, his 2004 Christmas Eve arrest for “attempting to leave the country” when he attempted to celebrate mass at the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem, the confiscation of his private property by thirty IDF that stormed into his room at St. George’s Cathedral in 2004, according to Vanunu have all “been done… under the false and misleading statements to the courts of ‘suspicion of espionage’, and yet they are not charging me with spy crimes… and the fact is that I have not committed any crimes.”

“But the real problem that Vanunu represents… at a critically important moment in the history of the Middle East that Israel is a nuclear power and that its warheads stand ready to be fired from the Negev desert. [Vanunu] will also remind the world that the Americans, despite battering their way into Iraq to destroy Saddam Hussein’s nonexistent weapons of mass destruction, continue to give their political, moral and economic support to a country that has secretly amassed a treasure trove of weapons of mass destruction.

“How can President Bush remain silent on Israel’s nuclear power when he has not only illegally invaded an Arab state for allegedly harbouring nuclear weapons and condemned Iran for the same ambitions, but also praised –along with Tony Blair’s government–Colonel Gaddafi of Libya for abandoning his nuclear pretensions? If the Arab states are being “defanged” –always supposing they had any real fangs in the first place–why should Israel not be “de-nuclearised”? Why can’t the United States apply the same standards to Israel as it does to the Arabs? Or why, for that matter, can’t Israel apply the same standards to itself that it demands of its Arab enemies?”

The legend of Vanunu continues to grow

An intrepid twenty-one year old German was arrested on Christmas Eve 2007 just for having dinner with Vanunu.

Five days prior, Dana from the USA met Vanunu in the Old City and walked to the American Colony with him for lunch. Dana informed this civilian journalist via telephone, “At the table next to us was the Greek Patriarch of Jerusalem and a lot of photos were being taken of him. I wasn’t concerned about myself, but I was afraid to meet Vanunu for his sake; that he would get arrested. I told him this and he just shrugged. I do believe he was arrested on Christmas Eve just because he is a Christian.”

Also unafraid of speaking with Vanunu are the “Ten to twenty foreigners [who speak with Vanunu] every day in the streets, in the restaurants, in churches; some times long meetings.” 1

This civilian journalist phoned Vanunu on February 12th to ask him what he thought about the two homicide bombers who blew up six miles from the underground Dimona nuclear plant on Feb. 5th. Reuters originally reported that a source said the “Army of Palestine” wing of Fatah’s al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades from Gaza carried out the attack in Dimona along with the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP). Within hours it was then reported that it was two Hamas from Hebron. Israeli authorities denied the nuclear plant was the target and not one journalist questioned it.

Vanunu said, “We don’t know if they were Hamas or Fatah, but they got as far as they could get to the Dimona. The Dimona is very heavily guarded, and only another state could blow it up, not terrorists.”

Vanunu hasn’t set foot in the Dimona in twenty-two years, [International Inspectors never have] yet Israel continues to insist they cannot let him speak with foreigners or leave Israel, because Israeli authorities claim he still has a secret he has not yet told.

Vanunu has repeatedly responded, “All the secrets I had were published in 1989 in an important book, by Frank Barnaby: The Invisible Bomb: Nuclear Arms Race in the Middle East.”

Article 12 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), which Israel ratified and is obliged to uphold, stipulates: “everyone [has] the right to liberty of movement and freedom to choose his residence” and that “everyone shall be free to leave any country, including his own”.

Israel is bound by international law not to impose arbitrary restrictions on Mordechai Vanunu, including on his right to travel within the country or abroad, his right to peaceful association with others and his right to express his opinions.2

“For 18 years in prison I felt like a man at a train station, waiting for my train. I lived in a six by nine foot space without a window for 18 years. Every day I would get up, get dressed, put on my shoes, look at the same four walls and wait for that train that never came… Now I live in a nine by nine space with four walls, I have a window to the Mount of Olives and the street. But, I live like a tourist without even a TV in a cheap hotel and all I want to do is leave Jerusalem. I am no longer waiting for a train. Now I am at the airport terminal waiting for my plane.”

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.3

  1. Excerpted from an email from Vanunu. []
  2. Amnesty International Press Release of April 19, 2004 and July 2, 2007. []
  3. Article 19, Universal Declaration of Human Rights []

Eileen Fleming is the author of Keep Hope Alive and Memoirs of a Nice Irish American Girl's' Life in Occupied Territory and the producer of 30 Minutes With Vanunu. Email her at ecumei@gmail.com. Read other articles by Eileen, or visit Eileen's website.

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  1. Eileen Fleming said on February 20th, 2008 at 6:19am #

    Thanks DV for publishing the above.

    For anyone interested you can view “13 Minutes with Vanunu” taped Jan. 2008:

    http://www.wearewideawake.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=807&Itemid=197

  2. jaime said on February 20th, 2008 at 8:44am #

    “Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers”

    Sounds good in theory. But if someone works in the security service of a state, any state, then the above platitude doesn’t generally apply.

    Vannunu is generally considered a traitor to his own people.

  3. Eileen Fleming said on February 20th, 2008 at 8:58am #

    Thanks for input Jamie, but the point is that Vanunu PAID the price for his actions of 22 years ago with 18 yrs. in jail and is NOW being punished simply for speaking with human beings.

    Another point is that he-and i-and many people all agree -that the ongoing vindictiveness by Israel govt. is because of his Christian conversion.

    Third point i had hoped to make is that in the USA our freedom of speech is in peril because of the paranoia of Big Brother claiming SECURITY as the reason to snoop on we the people’s emails and phone calls over sea and that the MSM has been MIA regarding V’s historic freedom of speech trial.

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  4. Ray Ralph said on February 20th, 2008 at 4:52pm #

    Well, well, Jaime, you finally admit that Israel pilots shot up the USS Liberty and killed American servicemen. In your opinion, should they be brought to trial and sentenced to jail time for their crimes?

  5. Eileen Fleming said on February 20th, 2008 at 5:11pm #

    Wake Up Jamie! Vanunu was NEVER a pilot and he was 13 years old in 1967!

    Vanunu told me:

    “At 18 years old I had my mind and health checked by the Israeli army doctors and was assigned to be a pilot. But I failed the hand – eye coordination and was assigned to the Navy instead. Three weeks later they sent me to the Engineering Unit where I learned about land mines, bridges and explosives. I started training with fifty others and was the most unenthusiastic of the bunch. I stood back from it all and saw it as if it were just playing stupid games. Most everyone else was serious, but I just didn’t care, all I could see was the futility…

    “…I served in the occupied territories near Bethlehem. I would make treks of 15 miles through villages and felt how poor the people were under occupation and how they suffered without reason, except for the reason of injustice. In the 1970’s Israel built many fortresses and spent lots of money on equipment, but nothing on the people I saw who were oppressed and under occupation.

    “I got really mad and upset every time I thought about how much money they wasted, but I kept my mouth shut and kept it all to myself. After a year I finished my training and was assigned to train more soldiers. For me it was all futility and waste, I saw these children become soldiers and thought what a complete waste. When the Yom Kippur War broke out I was home on leave. I returned the next day to my station near Ramallah. Soldiers with less than a month of training got called to go with me to the Jordan Valley. There weren’t enough trained troops and we were lucky we didn’t see any fighting and got to return to base after three days. After a few months we all went to Syria and the Golan Heights. When Kissinger coordinated the ceasefire, the Israeli army destroyed the area before leaving there. I was promoted to First Sergeant and they wanted me to re-up. I said no.”-EXCERPTED from my 2nd book, “Memoirs of a Nice Irish-American ‘Girl’s’ Life in Occupied Territory” Chapter 7: Brother V

    And BTW, beginning this Saturday, Feb 23rd the very first radio program dedicated to the USS Liberty will begin on Republic Broadcasting Network found on the internet at
    http://www.republicbroadcasting.org.

    Hosted by USS Liberty Survivor Phil Tourney and American Free Press reporter Mark Glenn, it will air every Saturday at 10 am central standard time and runs 2 hrs.

    It is a live call in program dedicated not only to what happened to the USS Liberty 40 years ago but as well everything that has taken place since then, including how it all relates to the present debacle in the Middle East that has American boys and girls dying everyday.

    The call-in number for ‘The Liberty Hour’ is 800.313.9443

  6. Ray Ralph said on February 20th, 2008 at 5:32pm #

    Unfortunately, Eileen, this is not the first of Jaime’s many deceptions. Elsewhere on DV he has posted a photo of an American serviceman on Tarawa Island in the South Pacific during WW II and is claiming that it is really an Israeli soldier filling a bucket with water from the Litani River in Southern Lebanon in 2006. Making up false charges against Vanunu is just the kind of thing Jaime specializes in.

  7. Eileen Fleming said on February 20th, 2008 at 6:03pm #

    Hi Ray,

    Thank you so very much for commenting.

    There is an enormous amount of dis-information about Vanunu and i can only suppose it is fueled by a need to deny the truth because of “walls of pride that are high and wide, you can’t see over to the other side.”-Bob Dylan.

    But, since Jamie reads this site, there is always hope for a change of heart and mind as education is the way to compassion and compassion is the way to change.

    all good 2 U,
    e

  8. Ray Ralph said on February 20th, 2008 at 6:26pm #

    Hi Eileen, I frequently read and am informed by your articles in the peoples voice and share your concern for the plight of the Palestinians. This piece about Vanunu is an excellent and informative piece of reporting. Thanks so much! Ray

  9. Eileen Fleming said on February 21st, 2008 at 11:18am #

    Jamie-what has that got to do with Vanunu?

    Ray-Thank you so much!

  10. jaime said on February 21st, 2008 at 12:54pm #

    Tarawa has a tropical climate. You don’t wear balaclavas in a tropical climate. Ray’s complaint about my misinformation is misplaced.

  11. Eileen Fleming said on February 21st, 2008 at 1:51pm #

    Dearest Jamie,

    The misinformation you were being called on, on this thread was your comment:

    “Little known fact, but Vanunu was one of the Israeli pilots who shot up the USS Liberty.”

    Vanunu was never a pilot and only 13 in 1967.

  12. jaime said on February 21st, 2008 at 3:24pm #

    2 different issues, Eileen.

  13. Ray Ralph said on February 21st, 2008 at 7:25pm #

    That’s right, Jaime, they are two different issues. Why haven’t you responded to Eileen. As she has demonstrated, you told a bold-faced lie about Vanunu. He was never a pilot and he was only 13 years old when the USS Liberty was bombed by Israeli pilots. Why would you go out of your way to lie about him? Shame on you!!!

  14. Ray Ralph said on February 22nd, 2008 at 5:12am #

    Are you now claiming, Jaime, that your bold faced lie about Vanunu was a “joke.” A pretty lame joke I’d say. And a lethal one. Next you’ll be claiming that Vanunu was on the island of Tarawa in 1943!

  15. Eileen Fleming said on February 22nd, 2008 at 6:35am #

    Back to Topic:

    I received this email from the UK this morning:

    On Thursday 21 February 2008 Glasgow City councillors voted to support campaigns for the release of Mordechai Vanunu from Israel.

    * Vanunu baton passed from Glasgow University to Glasgow City Council
    * Scotland’s biggest City Council adopts whistle-blower Vanunu
    * Zionists attack City Council for allowing members to debate issue
    * Zionists attack Council debating “what another country has done” (Mandela Square is in Glasgow city centre!)
    * Grossman: “We believe the Scottish Palestine Solidarity Campaign was behind this.”
    * Green Party motion supported by many Lib Dem & Labour Cllrs
    * Labour Cllr. Mackechnie: “Weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East? Look no further than Israel.”
    * Lib Dem Cllr. Mason: Israel’s actions like North Korea, Burma and China.
    * “At no stage did any councillors speak out in favour of Israel.” Jewish Chronicle
    * “Vanunu put in 11 years benign solitary for his own protection” (He could have been put with any of Israel’s 11,700 Palestinian prisoners/hostages and been perfectly safe)

    Press reports:

    Anger over council’s move to back Vanunu
    22/02/2008
    By Leon Symons, Glasgow (The Jewish Chronicle)

    Scottish Jewish community leaders have criticised Glasgow City Council for allowing a debate on Israeli nuclear whistle-blower Mordechai Vanunu.

    Green Party Councillor Martha Wardrop was due to put forward a lengthy motion praising Vanunu, who was sentenced to 18 years in prison after revealing secrets of Israel’s nuclear capability to the Sunday Times newspaper in 1986.

    Vanunu completed his sentence but has since been sentenced to a further six months after breaking an order banning him from speaking to foreign journalists.

    Cllr Wardrop’s motion, on the agenda for a full council meeting due to be held yesterday [Thursday] afternoon, called on the council to support campaigns for Vanunu’s release and support him

    in his role since 2005 as rector of Glasgow University, which is about to come to an end.

    Scottish Representative Council president Philip Mendelsohn said: “It was unfortunate that a local authority thought that it was a relevant thing for them to debate what another country has

    done through its judicial process. It was totally inappropriate.

    “There are plenty of other people in jail all over the world for similar offences, yet they don’t make a big issue out of it. It happens only with Israel.”

    Stanley Grossman of the Scottish Friends of Israel has either written to or emailed every Glasgow City councillor.

    “I have had about half a dozen replies from councillors who said they did not know the full story and that they were going to vote against it. I also had a couple of very nasty replies,” said Mr Grossman.

    “This was designed to put Mordechai Vanunu back in the public eye. We believe the Scottish Palestine Solidarity Campaign was behind this.”

    However, Michael Napier, chair of SPSC, said its involvement had been “minimal. This is an initiative by the Green Party on the council and has the support of the Labour majority group, so it will go through.

    “The wording of the motion is far from that which we would have chosen. I would have chosen a more pro-active role to support the position adopted by students at Glasgow University. They

    have a tradition of supporting people who stand for human rights,” added Mr Napier.

    The JC sought comment from Cllr Wardrop but she did not respond to calls.

    http://www.thejc.com/home.aspx?ParentId=m11s18&SecId=18&AId=58261&ATypeId=1

    ONE-SIDED DEBATE SLAMS VANUNU TREATMENT
    22/02/2008 Jewish Telegraph

    GLASGOW City Council has voted in favour of a motion supporting Israeli scientist Mordechai Vanunu, convicted in 1988 of publishing state secrets on Israel’s nuclear industry.

    The motion, debated at a Council meeting yesterday (Thursday), was raised by Scottish Green Party councillor Martha Wardrop.

    In a one-sided debate, she called for the Council to support ongoing campaigns for the release of Vanunu from detention, thus allowing him to travel to Scotland, where he is Rector of Glasgow

    University.

    She further called for the Council to work closely with cross-party organisations campaigning for his release and to recognise his role as Rector.

    Cllr Wardrop stated that she had been asked to raise the motion by several of her Hillhead constituents.
    In seconding the motion, Labour councillor Jim Mackechnie said: “Mordechai Vanunu is being shamefully persecuted and prevented from taking up his position as Glasgow University Rector. If

    you want to find weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East, you need look no further than Israel.
    “Vanunu’s human rights are being constantly violated, but he has remained steadfast and resilient. His supporters include the majority of the Scottish Cabinet, the immediate past Moderator

    of the Church of Scotland and Amnesty International.”

    Speaking in favour of the motion, Liberal Democrat councillor Dr Christopher Mason stated: “There is a terrible irony and cruelty about what Israel has done to Vanunu.

    “The irony is that the Israelis took steps themselves to draw Her Majesty’s Government’s attention to the fact that they had nuclear weapons.

    “After all, how can having nuclear weapons be a deterrent if people don’t know you have them? The world was a very different world in 1972 and perhaps Israel felt threatened.”

    Dr Mason likened Israel’s actions in not allowing Vanunu to speak to foreigners to that of countries such as North Korea, Burma and China.

    He called upon the Council to write to the President of Israel and urge him to release Vanunu, as continuing to hold him further damaged Israel’s reputation.

    At no stage in the brief debate, did any of the councillors speak out in favour of Israel or present a more balanced case.

    There was no mention of the fact that Vanunu was imprisoned for breaking Israel’s Secrets Act rather than acting in the interests of peace.

    The fact that he spent 11 years in solitary confinement was spoken about, without stating that it was done for his own protection and that his prison conditions were extremely benign.

    Cllr Alex Glass raised an amendment proposing that no action be taken because that would allow everyone the chance to have their say on the motion.

    Baillie Cathy McMaster, in seconding the amendment, contended that the wording of the motion would do nothing to enhance the course of peace.

    After Cllr Wardrop’s summary, in which she said that the motion sought to promote peace and understanding with Israel, the vote was taken and the motion carried, with 39 votes for, 23

    against and four abstentions.

    The Jewish Telegraph understands from a Labour Party source, that both the leader of the Labour group, Cllr Steven Purcell, who left another meeting to be present, and the Lord Provost, Cllr

    Robert Winter voted against the motion, along with 20 other Labour councillors and that although the Council is now committed to take action it is unlikely that it will be driven by the Council

    leaders.

    http://www.jewishtelegraph.co.uk

    —————–

  16. Ray Ralph said on February 22nd, 2008 at 11:01am #

    “sleazy maneuvering”? I presume, Jaime, that you are referring to the the Zionist attacks on the Glasgow City Council and on the Green Party motion which quite correctly praises Vanunu. I further presume that you are suggesting that it makes Israel look bad when its supporters behave so in such a “sleazy” and intolerant manner. For a change, I agree with you. The Zionist attacks were sleazy and they did make Israel look bad. You’re starting to catch on.

  17. jaime said on February 22nd, 2008 at 2:59pm #

    It’s a publicity stunt. The post of “Rector” sounds good but actually means very little.
    Vanunu is considered a notorious traitor.

  18. Eileen Fleming said on February 22nd, 2008 at 3:16pm #

    OK Jamie, NOW you have really gotten my Irish up and FLAMING!

    Criticizing the injustices of the state of Israel DOES NOT MAKE ME-or anyone- AN ANTI-SEMITE!

    Criticizing the injustices of the USA govt. does not make me-or anyone unpatriotic either!

    All it means is that we THINK and speak up against INJUSTICE!

    PLEASE try to follow:

    If Vanunu betrayed the state of Israel by TELLING THE TRUTH 22 years ago- he did it because there is a HIGHER LAW than the law of man; it is the law of God and God has said:

    “What does God require? He has told you o’man!
    Be JUST! be merciful, and walk humbly with your Lord.” -Micah 6:8

    The state of Israel’s OWN WORDS affirm:

    “On the day of the termination of the British mandate and on the strength of the United Nations General Assembly declare The State of Israel will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel: it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion it will guarantee freedom of religion [and] conscience and will be faithful to the Charter of the United Nations.” – May 14, 1948. The Declaration of the 1948. The Declaration of the establishment of Israel

    ALL I AM SAYING is that when the state of Israel HONORS its own words, there will be security for Israel and peace in the Mid East.

    Vanunu paid the price of pissing Israel off with 18 yrs. of his life and nearly 4 more since. It is way more than enough for telling THE TRUTH!!!

    Israel has NOT suffered a breach of security for V’s actions of 22 frickin’ years ago, Israel has not allowed IAEA inspectors into the Dimona, has never signed the NPT and has NEVER even admitted they even possess what the ENTIRE WORLD KNOWS they have: WMD’s, YET they have the incredible chutzpah to lock V up for 18 yrs. and torment him for nearly 4 more!!!

    do you get it?

  19. brian said on February 22nd, 2008 at 4:17pm #

    ‘Jaime’ is the resident zionist troll, here to add a little spice with his talent for fraud.

  20. Eileen Fleming said on February 22nd, 2008 at 5:50pm #

    Hi B,

    THANKS for the illumination + I am LOL with gratitude.

    For the thing about me is as soon as i express my anger; i get over it,

    +

    “My aim is to agitate & disturb people. I’m not selling bread, I’m selling yeast.”-Unamuno

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  21. sk said on February 22nd, 2008 at 6:25pm #

    Here is one country allowed to keep it’s nukes because “it has not threatened to destroy any of its neighbours”.

  22. Kim Petersen said on February 22nd, 2008 at 8:29pm #

    sk,
    Whether it threatens to do so or not is of minor relevance; the fact is that Israel is based on the destruction of the indigenous people AND their neighbors.

  23. Ray Ralph said on February 22nd, 2008 at 8:38pm #

    In fact, Israel is constantly threatening its neighbors. I has continually called on the US to to bomb Iran and has threatened to unilaterally do so if the US does not. It also continually threatens Syria and Lebanon and, as Kim Petersen points out, is in the ongoing process of destroying the Palestinian people and their culture (which many Israeli leaders past and present–such as Golda Meir–even deny exists).

  24. sk said on February 22nd, 2008 at 9:07pm #

    Kim, tell that to these people whose country has been repeatedly destroyed over the last 3 decades.

  25. Ray Ralph said on February 23rd, 2008 at 11:31am #

    Ashkenazi Jews, the majority in Israel, are indigenous to eastern Europe and Central Asia. As far as Jesus goes, the situation when he lived 2,000 years ago was considerably different than the situation today or in 1900. Does that surprise you? 2,000 years ago the land where you live in New Jersey was inhabited by indigenous native American people who had never hears of Europeans, much less of Jews. Yet today, both US Senators from New Jersey are owned and controlled by AIPAC and consistently vote to put the interests of Israel above those of the US!! Go figure!

  26. Eileen Fleming said on February 23rd, 2008 at 1:10pm #

    Interesting turn to this conversation, and so i will add this trio:

    1. RE: JC
    The term ‘Christian’ was not even coined until the days of Paul, about 3 decades after Jesus walked the earth a man.

    Jesus was NEVER a Christian, but he was a social justice, radical revolutionary Palestinian devout Jewish road warrior who rose up and challenged the job security of the Temple authorities by teaching the people they did NOT need to pay the priests for ritual baths or sacrificing livestock to be OK with God; for God already LOVED them just as they were:

    Sinners, poor, diseased, outcasts, widows, orphans, refugees and prisoners all living under Roman Military Occupation.

    What got Jesus crucified was disturbing the status quo of the Roman Occupying Forces of his time, by teaching the subversive concept that Caesar only had power because God allowed it and that God preferred the humble sinner, the poor, diseased, outcasts, widows, orphans, refugees and prisoners all living under Roman Occupation above the elite and arrogant.

    The early followers and lovers of Jesus were called members of THE WAY-being THE WAY JC taught one should be; Nonviolent, a Peacemaker and one who did the will of the Father .

    “What does God require? He has told you o’man! Be just, be merciful, and walk humbly with your Lord.” -Micah 6:8

    Jesus remained NONVIOLENT and forgiving even while being mocked, whipped and nailed to a cross and he promised that it is the Peacemakers who are the children of God, not the peace-talkers.

    2,000 years ago The Cross had NO symbolic religious meaning. When Jesus said: “Pick up your cross and follow me,” EVERYONE back then understood he was issuing a POLITICAL statement, for the main roads in Jerusalem were lined with crucified agitators, rebels, dissidents and any others who disturbed the status quo of the Roman Occupying Forces, for crucification was Rome’s method of capitol punishment.

    2. The TOP 5, 2005-2006 Election Cycle Senate Recipients of Pro-Israel PAC Funds

    Joe Lieberman, D-CT 127,093
    Bill Nelson, D-FL. 89,861
    Jon Kyl, R-AZ. 87,000
    Debbie Stabenow, D-MI. 85,796
    Robert Mendez, D-NJ 84,835
    Rick Santorum, R-PA. 75,500

    From 2005-2006, Pro-Israel Funds to Congress TOTALED: $3,277,693

    The TOTAL 2005-2006 Election Cycle Congressional recipients of Arab American PAC Funds to Congress TOTALED: $80,500:
    $1,000 was received by 4 Congressional Reps.
    $2,000 was received by 27 and the maximum of
    $8,000 was received by Lincoln Chaffe, R-RI

    -Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 2007 edition

    3. Hillary Clinton: The Democrat Demimondaine and Consummate Pandering Politician, who really gets my Irish up, but i won’t spill any more cyber ink here, if you care to read why she is AIPAC’s and Israel’s favorite candidate, i vented @
    http://www.wearewideawake.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=411&Itemid=138

  27. Ray Ralph said on February 24th, 2008 at 4:59am #

    The LDS (Mormon) Church does believe that native American tribes are the lost tribes of Israel. The Book of Mormon claims to be a record of the sojourn of the ten lost tribes to South and ultimately North America, where they displeased God and caused him to change their skil color to “red.” (I kid you not!) Because Mormons think of themselves as the true “Jews,” they even refer to themselves as “Zionists” (for example, the Mormon church owned department store chain is called ZCMI (Zion’s Clothing and Merchantile Inc.) When did you become a Mormon, Jaime?

  28. Ray Ralph said on February 24th, 2008 at 8:33am #

    My above post was a response to a post by Jaime that has since disappeared (I guess it was removed by DV editors; I can’t recall if it contained some comment more offensive than the typical Jaime post but it must have). Without Jaime’s post, my reply doesn’t seem to make too much sense. Sorry.

  29. Eileen Fleming said on February 24th, 2008 at 9:09am #

    Don’t worry about it Ray- i read it as all the comments come directly to my email. I do believe the DV editors are doing a great job and i wonder if maybe they are trying to send us the message to stay on topic?

  30. LanceThruster said on February 24th, 2008 at 10:43pm #

    Mordechai Vanunu is an eminent truth-teller and genuinely decent human being. I emailed him expressing my fervent hope that the courts would actually apply justice in his case and allow him his freedom of movement. As it turns out, Israel still chooses to be vindictive as it continues to restrict his freedom in so many petty and arbitrary ways. Dr. Vanunu responded with much warmth and optimism. He was anxiously awaiting his day in court. I feel pretty much powerless knowing that a good man and exemplary world citizen is being held hostage by a criminal government in order to send a message to anyone else courageous enough or foolish enough to tell the truth about Israel’s actions.

    Great piece, Eileen.