Comments on: The Strangulation of Gaza http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14624 jaime Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:32:20 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14624 Hey where'd everybody go??? I guess MaryB doesn't know to say. That's OK, this is a regular event here. Whenever the sickness of this terror culture is exposed and required to justify itself, all of you armchair revolutionaries take a walk. Hey where’d everybody go???

I guess MaryB doesn’t know to say.
That’s OK, this is a regular event here. Whenever the sickness of this terror culture is exposed and required to justify itself, all of you armchair revolutionaries take a walk.

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14599 jaime Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:30:05 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14599 Here Mary, Meet Lilach. Tell us all again why she deserved to die. http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-%20Obstacle%20to%20Peace/Memorial/2003/Lilach%20Kardi ------------------------ Would you torture the person who sent her killer in order to save other lives? Would you torture the person who sent her killer in order to save other lives? Here Mary,

Meet Lilach. Tell us all again why she deserved to die.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-%20Obstacle%20to%20Peace/Memorial/2003/Lilach%20Kardi

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Would you torture the person who sent her killer in order to save other lives?

Would you torture the person who sent her killer in order to save other lives?

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14598 jaime Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:23:33 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14598 You may be sure that they do. http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/2000_2009/2003/8/Suicide+bombing+of+No+2+Egged+bus+in+Jerusalem+-+1.htm & Be sure to check out all of the photos really closely, M'Dear. You may be sure that they do.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/2000_2009/2003/8/Suicide+bombing+of+No+2+Egged+bus+in+Jerusalem+-+1.htm

& Be sure to check out all of the photos really closely, M’Dear.

]]> By: maryb http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14565 maryb Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:41:47 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14565 Something here to learn and remember. I am sure that the victims remember well. http://www.palestinemonitor.org/spip/spip.php?article10 Something here to learn and remember. I am sure that the victims remember well.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/spip/spip.php?article10

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14276 jaime Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:04:07 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14276 Yeah, the Iranian English language propaganda channel. This from a country where they hang gays from building cranes in the middle of Teheran. So tell us Maryb...do 8 year old children deserve to have their legs torn off by random bombing attacks from your friends? From The Times February 11, 2008 Israeli fury over boy maimed by rocket James Hider in Jerusalem An eight-year-old boy lost his leg in a Palestinian rocket attack on the Israeli town of Sderot, heaping pressure on Ehud Olmert, the Prime Minister, to launch full-scale retaliation. Osher Twito was walking through the town centre on Saturday night with his brother, Rami, 19, when a volley of the unguided rockets hit, partially severing the boy's leg, which doctors had to amputate. He suffered severe wounds to his other leg and abdomen. His brother also suffered severe injuries. More than 40 rockets landed in and around the southern town over the weekend. About 100 residents of Sderot blocked the main road leading into Jerusalem yesterday in protest at the Government's inability to curb the rocket fire. A group of Sderot schoolgirls carried signs that declared: “We are not ducks at a shooting range.” Israel launched an airstrike on Gaza in response, killing a military leader of Hamas, which controls the coastal territory. But that failed to quell the anger over the constant attacks on Sderot. One opposition MP called for Israel's military to “wipe a neighbourhood in Gaza off the map”. Mr Olmert rejected calls for a full-scale attack on Gaza, but served warning that the Islamist movement's leaders, political and military, could be singled out for assassination. “We will continue to reach all the terror bodies — those responsible for them, those who send them and those who operate them,” said Mr Olmert, recalling past strikes that killed a number of Hamas political and spirit- ual leaders including Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the movement's wheelchair-bound founder. Mr Olmert emphasised that he understood the fury of the Sderot residents but cautioned that a large-scale invasion of Gaza, such as the five-month operation in 2006 after an Israeli soldier was captured by Hamas, was not necessarily the solution. “The rage is understandable,” he said. “But it should be clear that rage is not a work plan. We must act in a systematic way over a long period of time. This is what we have been doing and we will continue doing.” Tzipi Livni, the Foreign Minister, said that there could be no peace with the Palestinians until the rocket barrages, fired by Hamas and other, smaller factions, ended. Her comments dented recent hopes that had been revived by negotiations between Israel and the secular Palestinian administration of the West Bank. Israel has focused its tactics on cutting supplies of fuel, electricity and all but the bare necessities to Gaza to squeeze its Islamist rulers into curbing the attacks. Hamas responded last month by destroying a wall separating it from Egypt although this has now been closed by Egyptian forces. Yeah, the Iranian English language propaganda channel.

This from a country where they hang gays from building cranes in the middle of Teheran.

So tell us Maryb…do 8 year old children deserve to have their legs torn off by random bombing attacks from your friends?

From The Times
February 11, 2008
Israeli fury over boy maimed by rocket
James Hider in Jerusalem

An eight-year-old boy lost his leg in a Palestinian rocket attack on the Israeli town of Sderot, heaping pressure on Ehud Olmert, the Prime Minister, to launch full-scale retaliation.

Osher Twito was walking through the town centre on Saturday night with his brother, Rami, 19, when a volley of the unguided rockets hit, partially severing the boy’s leg, which doctors had to amputate. He suffered severe wounds to his other leg and abdomen. His brother also suffered severe injuries. More than 40 rockets landed in and around the southern town over the weekend. About 100 residents of Sderot blocked the main road leading into Jerusalem yesterday in protest at the Government’s inability to curb the rocket fire. A group of Sderot schoolgirls carried signs that declared: “We are not ducks at a shooting range.”

Israel launched an airstrike on Gaza in response, killing a military leader of Hamas, which controls the coastal territory. But that failed to quell the anger over the constant attacks on Sderot. One opposition MP called for Israel’s military to “wipe a neighbourhood in Gaza off the map”.

Mr Olmert rejected calls for a full-scale attack on Gaza, but served warning that the Islamist movement’s leaders, political and military, could be singled out for assassination.

“We will continue to reach all the terror bodies — those responsible for them, those who send them and those who operate them,” said Mr Olmert, recalling past strikes that killed a number of Hamas political and spirit-

ual leaders including Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the movement’s wheelchair-bound founder.

Mr Olmert emphasised that he understood the fury of the Sderot residents but cautioned that a large-scale invasion of Gaza, such as the five-month operation in 2006 after an Israeli soldier was captured by Hamas, was not necessarily the solution.

“The rage is understandable,” he said. “But it should be clear that rage is not a work plan. We must act in a systematic way over a long period of time. This is what we have been doing and we will continue doing.”

Tzipi Livni, the Foreign Minister, said that there could be no peace with the Palestinians until the rocket barrages, fired by Hamas and other, smaller factions, ended. Her comments dented recent hopes that had been revived by negotiations between Israel and the secular Palestinian administration of the West Bank.

Israel has focused its tactics on cutting supplies of fuel, electricity and all but the bare necessities to Gaza to squeeze its Islamist rulers into curbing the attacks. Hamas responded last month by destroying a wall separating it from Egypt although this has now been closed by Egyptian forces.

]]> By: maryb http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14270 maryb Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:02:55 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14270 http://www.presstv.ir/pop/wmp.aspx?id=38871 Something to watch here http://www.presstv.ir/pop/wmp.aspx?id=38871

Something to watch here

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14230 jaime Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:54:58 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14230 I agree with Maryb. You should too. The Egyptians didn't actually say that they were going to break legs, and the Gazans didn't actually pass off monopoly money on the folks who gave them a break. And Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy are coming to visit you. I agree with Maryb.

You should too.

The Egyptians didn’t actually say that they were going to break legs, and the Gazans didn’t actually pass off monopoly money on the folks who gave them a break.

And Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy are coming to visit you.

]]> By: maryb http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14223 maryb Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:42:07 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14223 He is talking to himself now as I predicted 3 days ago. Oh what tangled webs we weave When first we practice to deceive. And when we've practiced for awhile, How we do improve our style! He is talking to himself now as I predicted 3 days ago.

Oh what tangled webs we weave
When first we practice to deceive.
And when we’ve practiced for awhile,
How we do improve our style!

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14214 jaime Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:03:27 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14214 Hey Woody, Here's what the Gazan's brothers said about them this week: http://arabist.net/archives/2008/02/07/egypt-will-break-legs-of-anyone-crossing-gaza-border/ CAIRO (AFP) - Egypt said on Thursday it would no longer tolerate Palestinians infiltrating the country from the Gaza Strip, and threatened to break the legs of anyone crossing the Rafah border illegally. “Anyone who breaches the border will have their legs broken,” Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit was quoted as saying by the official MENA news agency on public television overnight. Pretty welcome visitors I'd say. Ya'll come back anytime!!!! http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3504139,00.html Egypt: Gazans used forged bills in Sinai Security sources report $1 million in counterfeit bills brought into country while Egypt-Gaza border was breached Roee Nahmias Published: 02.07.08, 19:06 / Israel News About $1 million in counterfeit bills, apparently originating in the Gaza Strip, were seized in the Sinai Peninsula in the past few days, Egyptian security sources told Palestinian news agency Ma'an on Thursday. According to the sources, hundreds of counterfeit bills, which are being used by merchants amongst themselves or in their dealings with the Egyptian banks, are being discovered every day. The Egyptian security sources estimated that additional forged banknotes would be discovered in the near future in light of the fact that Egyptian residents – mainly in the el-Arish, Rafah and Sheikh Zweid areas – are expected to use the money they received from Gaza residents in exchange for the various goods they sold them. ... Hey Woody,

Here’s what the Gazan’s brothers said about them this week:

http://arabist.net/archives/2008/02/07/egypt-will-break-legs-of-anyone-crossing-gaza-border/

CAIRO (AFP) – Egypt said on Thursday it would no longer tolerate Palestinians infiltrating the country from the Gaza Strip, and threatened to break the legs of anyone crossing the Rafah border illegally. “Anyone who breaches the border will have their legs broken,” Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit was quoted as saying by the official MENA news agency on public television overnight.

Pretty welcome visitors I’d say. Ya’ll come back anytime!!!!

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3504139,00.html

Egypt: Gazans used forged bills in Sinai

Security sources report $1 million in counterfeit bills brought into country while Egypt-Gaza border was breached

Roee Nahmias
Published: 02.07.08, 19:06 / Israel News

About $1 million in counterfeit bills, apparently originating in the Gaza Strip, were seized in the Sinai Peninsula in the past few days, Egyptian security sources told Palestinian news agency Ma’an on Thursday.

According to the sources, hundreds of counterfeit bills, which are being used by merchants amongst themselves or in their dealings with the Egyptian banks, are being discovered every day.

The Egyptian security sources estimated that additional forged banknotes would be discovered in the near future in light of the fact that Egyptian residents – mainly in the el-Arish, Rafah and Sheikh Zweid areas – are expected to use the money they received from Gaza residents in exchange for the various goods they sold them.

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]]> By: dan e http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14212 dan e Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:45:42 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14212 Finally I've figured it out. Jaime is actually a vicious anti-Semite nazi type who is out to make as many people as possible as angry as possible at Zionists, who he represents as representative of Jews in general. He's hoping people will get mad enough to join him in his anti-Jewish vendetta. Sorry, man, no dice. Instead of wasting my life refuting each & every increment in your torrent of garbage, I'm going to just cool it, kick back & listen to my Flip Phillips records, maybe a lil Serge Chaloff, check out Prez on some them Gershwin & I Berlin tunes, might even download some Gilad Atzmon. Whose playing don't crack me up that much, I'm probly just mired in the past, right? But his writing is mindblowing. He's got your number, J'aimy. So does Dave Rovics, the git-tar picker. Hey, speaking of Religion, die ever tell the one bout Ruddy Bich and God? Well, see, Max Roach died & went to heaven. He gets up front a the Pearly Gates & here comes this Jewish-looken dude with a big beard wearen a real nice suit, pair a pointy-toed... Oh damn, gotta go the store. I'll run down the rest of it necks time:) Yore Pal, Reinhart Finally I’ve figured it out. Jaime is actually a vicious anti-Semite nazi type who is out to make as many people as possible as angry as possible at Zionists, who he represents as representative of Jews in general. He’s hoping people will get mad enough to join him in his anti-Jewish vendetta.

Sorry, man, no dice. Instead of wasting my life refuting each & every increment in your torrent of garbage, I’m going to just cool it, kick back & listen to my Flip Phillips records, maybe a lil Serge Chaloff, check out Prez on some them Gershwin & I Berlin tunes, might even download some Gilad Atzmon. Whose playing don’t crack me up that much, I’m probly just mired in the past, right? But his writing is mindblowing. He’s got your number, J’aimy. So does Dave Rovics, the git-tar picker.

Hey, speaking of Religion, die ever tell the one bout Ruddy Bich and God? Well, see, Max Roach died & went to heaven. He gets up front a the Pearly Gates & here comes this Jewish-looken dude with a big beard wearen a real nice suit, pair a pointy-toed…

Oh damn, gotta go the store. I’ll run down the rest of it necks time:)

Yore Pal,

Reinhart

]]> By: maryb http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14209 maryb Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:46:47 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14209 I didn't notice but 'they' had sabotaged that link by adding a comma at the end. It should be http://www.giyus.org/ Cheers everybody. I'm just sorry that Professor Makdisi's article has provoked these interventions and hope that it has been read and not overlooked. I didn’t notice but ‘they’ had sabotaged that link by adding a comma at the end. It should be http://www.giyus.org/

Cheers everybody. I’m just sorry that Professor Makdisi’s article has provoked these interventions and hope that it has been read and not overlooked.

]]> By: Ekosmo http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14206 Ekosmo Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:44:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14206 ...JAI-ME--GAPHONE... "...doing it NOW.... For Israel..." Hahahahahaha... ROFLMAO....! …JAI-ME–GAPHONE…

“…doing it NOW…. For Israel…”

Hahahahahaha… ROFLMAO….!

]]> By: maryb http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14203 maryb Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:19:01 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14203 Mulga, Woody and the others Please don't waste your time. He's obviously obeying orders. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following letter was sent by Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs to a variety of pro-Israel organisations, so-called 'hasbara'-groups and other supporters of Israel. Dear friends, Many of us recognize the importance of the Internet as the new battleground for Israel's image. It's time to do it better, and coordinate our on-line efforts on behalf of Israel. An Israeli software company have developed a free, safe and useful tool for us - the Internet Megaphone. Please go to www.giyus.org, download the Megaphone, and you will receive daily updates with instant links to important internet polls, problematic articles that require a talk back, etc. We need 100,000 Megaphone users to make a difference. So, please distribute this mail to all Israel's supporters. Do it now. For Israel. Amir Gissin Director Public Affairs (Hasbara) Department Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Jerusalem Mulga, Woody and the others Please don’t waste your time. He’s obviously obeying orders.
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The following letter was sent by Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs to a variety of pro-Israel organisations, so-called ‘hasbara’-groups and other supporters of Israel.
Dear friends,

Many of us recognize the importance of the Internet as the new battleground for Israel’s image. It’s time to do it better, and coordinate our on-line efforts on behalf of Israel. An Israeli software company have developed a free, safe and useful tool for us – the Internet Megaphone.

Please go to http://www.giyus.org, download the Megaphone, and you will receive daily updates with instant links to important internet polls, problematic articles that require a talk back, etc.

We need 100,000 Megaphone users to make a difference. So, please distribute this mail to all Israel’s supporters.

Do it now. For Israel.

Amir Gissin

Director Public Affairs (Hasbara) Department
Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Jerusalem

]]> By: Woody http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14202 Woody Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:08:07 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14202 "So…uh…what do you want to do about the Jews and Israel, Mulga? Kill them all?" Maybe random drive-by shootings... such an excellent idea of yours Jaime. "And nobody will care. The world will let them die." Such a nice way you have with words too. How do you think things will look in 20 years' time with Isreal's attitude problem? “So…uh…what do you want to do about the Jews and Israel, Mulga? Kill them all?”
Maybe random drive-by shootings… such an excellent idea of yours Jaime. “And nobody will care. The world will let them die.” Such a nice way you have with words too.
How do you think things will look in 20 years’ time with Isreal’s attitude problem?

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14200 jaime Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:32:07 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14200 So...uh...what do you want to do about the Jews and Israel, Mulga? Kill them all? In the name of peace and justice? Why don't you just get your sorry ass over Gaza and help them out? They've got lots more like over there. You'll feel right at home. So…uh…what do you want to do about the Jews and Israel, Mulga?

Kill them all?

In the name of peace and justice?

Why don’t you just get your sorry ass over Gaza and help them out? They’ve got lots more like over there. You’ll feel right at home.

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14185 Mulga Mumblebrain Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:39:49 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14185 No jaime, not all the media, just most-check out the ownership, the ranks of senior executives, their avowed politics. Check out the editorial policies of, say Canwest, where criticism of Israel is literally career-ending. As to control, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. There have been scores of studies of media pro-Israeli bias. One needs only read the opinion pieces and the editorials. Denying the bleeding obvious is not a good look, jaime-it tends to diminish the strength of your other arguments. As to politics, the same position pertains, in trumps. While Israel destroys Palestinian society, kills Palestinian children, swallows yet more land and ignores international law with contempt, the silence from 'Western democracies' is deafening. The occasional whimper of protest is met by fierce, co-ordinated denunciation. We had a beautiful example here some years ago when Hanan Ashrawi was awarded the Sydney Peace Prize. The reaction was truly psychopathic. The University bestowing the award was threatened and the media was replete with articles denouncing Ashrawi as the acceptable face of terrorism. The Mayor of Sydney, whose multi-millionaire husband was seeking endorsement for the wealthiest electorate in the country, with the highest Jewish vote, denounced the award. The wife of a former Premier of NSW, let it slip that the driving force behind the campaign was Frank Lowy, a fanatically Zionist billionaire, with impeccable political connections. To top it all, an obscure military officer, on duty in Iraq as part of that illegal aggression, wrote complaining of the award, asserting, despicably in my opinion, that the award to Ashrawi would be of aid and encouragement to the so-called 'terrorists' in Iraq, an unconscious irony, as he was part of the real terrorist force in Iraq. This creature later surfaced as an expert on International Law when he asserted, with, in my opinion, stupefying arrogance, that the 14 out of 15 justices of the International Court of Justice were incorrect in finding Israel's concentration camp walls to be illegal. That's what I call chutzpah. Naturally such 'politically correct' devotion to the Holy State merits fitting reward, and he was duly chosen as a political candidate by the 'Labor' Party. He denied he was a stooge of Israel, and stated he'd never been in a synagogue, at least not since his son's bar mitzvah! According to jaime, speaking of a 'conspiracy' in this and countless other circumstances, is akin to quoting from The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. This is not even to speak of the countless occasions when group discipline has slipped, and braggadocio has taken over. You Ziocons just love having it both ways, don't you? No jaime, not all the media, just most-check out the ownership, the ranks of senior executives, their avowed politics. Check out the editorial policies of, say Canwest, where criticism of Israel is literally career-ending. As to control, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. There have been scores of studies of media pro-Israeli bias. One needs only read the opinion pieces and the editorials. Denying the bleeding obvious is not a good look, jaime-it tends to diminish the strength of your other arguments. As to politics, the same position pertains, in trumps. While Israel destroys Palestinian society, kills Palestinian children, swallows yet more land and ignores international law with contempt, the silence from ‘Western democracies’ is deafening. The occasional whimper of protest is met by fierce, co-ordinated denunciation. We had a beautiful example here some years ago when Hanan Ashrawi was awarded the Sydney Peace Prize. The reaction was truly psychopathic. The University bestowing the award was threatened and the media was replete with articles denouncing Ashrawi as the acceptable face of terrorism. The Mayor of Sydney, whose multi-millionaire husband was seeking endorsement for the wealthiest electorate in the country, with the highest Jewish vote, denounced the award. The wife of a former Premier of NSW, let it slip that the driving force behind the campaign was Frank Lowy, a fanatically Zionist billionaire, with impeccable political connections. To top it all, an obscure military officer, on duty in Iraq as part of that illegal aggression, wrote complaining of the award, asserting, despicably in my opinion, that the award to Ashrawi would be of aid and encouragement to the so-called ‘terrorists’ in Iraq, an unconscious irony, as he was part of the real terrorist force in Iraq. This creature later surfaced as an expert on International Law when he asserted, with, in my opinion, stupefying arrogance, that the 14 out of 15 justices of the International Court of Justice were incorrect in finding Israel’s concentration camp walls to be illegal. That’s what I call chutzpah. Naturally such ‘politically correct’ devotion to the Holy State merits fitting reward, and he was duly chosen as a political candidate by the ‘Labor’ Party. He denied he was a stooge of Israel, and stated he’d never been in a synagogue, at least not since his son’s bar mitzvah! According to jaime, speaking of a ‘conspiracy’ in this and countless other circumstances, is akin to quoting from The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. This is not even to speak of the countless occasions when group discipline has slipped, and braggadocio has taken over. You Ziocons just love having it both ways, don’t you?

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14149 jaime Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:29:58 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14149 Thanks Woody, Please post your address here and we'll make arrangements for random drive by shootings at your home/apt. Being as you're already used to V1 rockets, this should be a welcome diversion. (The above was posted in sarcasm, not as a threat) Mulga Mulga Mulga. So the Jews control all the media and all the politics of the west. Whew, didn't know we were so powerful. Thanks. Thanks Woody,
Please post your address here and we’ll make arrangements for random drive by shootings at your home/apt. Being as you’re already used to V1 rockets, this should be a welcome diversion.

(The above was posted in sarcasm, not as a threat)

Mulga Mulga Mulga.

So the Jews control all the media and all the politics of the west. Whew, didn’t know we were so powerful. Thanks.

]]> By: Woody http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14141 Woody Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:03:25 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14141 "The the Israelis retaliated, killing on a 10-1 ratio," says Jaime. Yeah, they've been slaughtering Palestinian kids at the rate of 10 to 1 since the second Intifada started in 2000. If there's anything the Israelis are good at, it's slaughtering kids. By the way buddy, my family lived through the onslaught of Hitler's Dooldlebugs and V1's. They were REAL rockets that would flatten a whole street, not daft little home-made Qassams. Get real. “The the Israelis retaliated, killing on a 10-1 ratio,” says Jaime. Yeah, they’ve been slaughtering Palestinian kids at the rate of 10 to 1 since the second Intifada started in 2000. If there’s anything the Israelis are good at, it’s slaughtering kids.

By the way buddy, my family lived through the onslaught of Hitler’s Dooldlebugs and V1′s. They were REAL rockets that would flatten a whole street, not daft little home-made Qassams. Get real.

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14136 Mulga Mumblebrain Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:59:55 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14136 It's really very simple jaime-Israel must stop killing the Palestinians, stop dispossessing them, stop torturing them, stop imprisoning them in their thousands, stop stealing their water and their olive trees. They must withdraw to the Green Line, as International Law demands. They must allow the refugees ethnically cleansed in 1948 to return. They must acknowledge that all the verbiage and self-serving sludge that Eretz Yisrael, from the Nile to the Euphrates, is the property of the Jews alone, and its other inhabitants must go 'elsewhere' on the say-so of a non-existent boogey-man, is rubbish, just like transubstantiation, manifest destiny, immaculate conceptions, jihads and all the other religious hindrances to human brotherhood. Israel must do all these out of common decency, and out of self-interest. The idea you appear to hold, that Israel can continue to imprison and slaughter at their pleasure millions of people, cannot continue indefinitely. No matter how great Israeli military power, no matter how thoroughly Jewish money power controls the media and politics of the West, the Palestinians will one day free themselves. At the moment they are still, through an act of unbelievable forebearance, prepared to live in peace with the Israelis, just so long as they are treated like humans. You seem to think that imprisoned and barbarised people should crawl on their knees to kiss the boots of their oppressors, and if not it proves that they are 'terrorists'. It is the same colonial mentality every White settler from Jamestown to Rhodesia carried inside his head, the sure and certain faith that he was a white man, a superior type, and the 'niggers' were just an obstacle in the path of progress. Israel is the mirror image of every other racist, colonial state. Whether it ends up like its old love South Africa and reforms itself, or like the US simply slaughters the indigenous until only a tiny, demoralised rump remain, only time will tell. It’s really very simple jaime-Israel must stop killing the Palestinians, stop dispossessing them, stop torturing them, stop imprisoning them in their thousands, stop stealing their water and their olive trees. They must withdraw to the Green Line, as International Law demands. They must allow the refugees ethnically cleansed in 1948 to return. They must acknowledge that all the verbiage and self-serving sludge that Eretz Yisrael, from the Nile to the Euphrates, is the property of the Jews alone, and its other inhabitants must go ‘elsewhere’ on the say-so of a non-existent boogey-man, is rubbish, just like transubstantiation, manifest destiny, immaculate conceptions, jihads and all the other religious hindrances to human brotherhood. Israel must do all these out of common decency, and out of self-interest. The idea you appear to hold, that Israel can continue to imprison and slaughter at their pleasure millions of people, cannot continue indefinitely. No matter how great Israeli military power, no matter how thoroughly Jewish money power controls the media and politics of the West, the Palestinians will one day free themselves. At the moment they are still, through an act of unbelievable forebearance, prepared to live in peace with the Israelis, just so long as they are treated like humans. You seem to think that imprisoned and barbarised people should crawl on their knees to kiss the boots of their oppressors, and if not it proves that they are ‘terrorists’. It is the same colonial mentality every White settler from Jamestown to Rhodesia carried inside his head, the sure and certain faith that he was a white man, a superior type, and the ‘niggers’ were just an obstacle in the path of progress. Israel is the mirror image of every other racist, colonial state. Whether it ends up like its old love South Africa and reforms itself, or like the US simply slaughters the indigenous until only a tiny, demoralised rump remain, only time will tell.

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14099 jaime Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:30:25 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/the-strangulation-of-gaza/#comment-14099 And what's your cure for the problem Mulga? More kassam missiles? More suicide terror bombings? That's what's prompted the military responses and fences and blockades in the first place. We know your cure. Killing the 7 million people in Israel and turning the place into another forlorn shithole like the ones your 'friends" are in now. You know what one of the saddest things I read lately was? It was a story about how while the fence was down, a Gazan managed to sell intact greenhouses to Egyptians for bargain prices. Never mind that they weren't "his" to sell, ...bequested by a Jewish philanthropist in 2005 to kickstart jobs and an independent economy for people in Gaza.. the greenhouses are now useless because the gazans can't ship what they produce, because they've attacked the borders so many times that they're sealed shut. And what’s your cure for the problem Mulga?

More kassam missiles? More suicide terror bombings?

That’s what’s prompted the military responses and fences and blockades in the first place.

We know your cure.

Killing the 7 million people in Israel and turning the place into another forlorn shithole like the ones your ‘friends” are in now.

You know what one of the saddest things I read lately was? It was a story about how while the fence was down, a Gazan managed to sell intact greenhouses to Egyptians for bargain prices. Never mind that they weren’t “his” to sell, …bequested by a Jewish philanthropist in 2005 to kickstart jobs and an independent economy for people in Gaza.. the greenhouses are now useless because the gazans can’t ship what they produce, because they’ve attacked the borders so many times that they’re sealed shut.

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