Comments on: Why Bush Wants to Legalize the Nuke Trade with Turkey http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:21:18 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: tryggth http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-15085 tryggth Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:33:20 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-15085 Maybe the private entities are the ones named in this article and diagram: http://nucnews.net/nucnews/2004nn/0405nn/040529nn.htm#046 http://www.nti.org/images/e3_60_chart.pdf Maybe the private entities are the ones named in this article and diagram:

http://nucnews.net/nucnews/2004nn/0405nn/040529nn.htm#046
http://www.nti.org/images/e3_60_chart.pdf

]]> By: david http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-14260 david Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:15:44 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-14260 The government is not treating Sibel Edmonds like a low-level temp who didn't have access to anything - state secrets, a gag order, and making her testimony classified. The government is not treating Sibel Edmonds like a low-level temp who didn’t have access to anything – state secrets, a gag order, and making her testimony classified.

]]> By: Dissident Voice : Sibel Edmonds: ‘Buckle up, there’s much more coming.’ http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13650 Dissident Voice : Sibel Edmonds: ‘Buckle up, there’s much more coming.’ Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:01:36 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13650 [...] and non-partisanship in covering this case. In particular, Phil Giraldi, Justin Raimondo, Joshua Frank and Scott [...] [...] and non-partisanship in covering this case. In particular, Phil Giraldi, Justin Raimondo, Joshua Frank and Scott [...]

]]> By: Who’s silencing Sibel? - Ultrabrown http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13631 Who’s silencing Sibel? - Ultrabrown Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:46:37 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13631 [...] cover to settle a petty political score. In fact, Dubya right now is trying to retroactively legalize selling American nuclear secrets to the [...] [...] cover to settle a petty political score. In fact, Dubya right now is trying to retroactively legalize selling American nuclear secrets to the [...]

]]> By: Stress » Sibel Edmonds: ‘Buckle up, there’s much more coming.’ http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13620 Stress » Sibel Edmonds: ‘Buckle up, there’s much more coming.’ Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:23:20 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13620 [...] and non-partisanship in covering this case. In particular, Phil Giraldi, Justin Raimondo, Joshua Franks and Scott Horton. digg_skin = 'compact'; [...] [...] and non-partisanship in covering this case. In particular, Phil Giraldi, Justin Raimondo, Joshua Franks and Scott Horton. digg_skin = ‘compact’; [...]

]]> By: Dissident Voice : “We Can’t Afford to Let Them Spill the Beans” http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13606 Dissident Voice : “We Can’t Afford to Let Them Spill the Beans” Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:47:54 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13606 [...] White House issues statement declaring its intention to approve sale of nuclear secrets to Turkey; Joshua Frank writes on January 25, “It appears the White House has been spooked by Edmonds and hopes to absolve the US officials [...] [...] White House issues statement declaring its intention to approve sale of nuclear secrets to Turkey; Joshua Frank writes on January 25, “It appears the White House has been spooked by Edmonds and hopes to absolve the US officials [...]

]]> By: sk http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13601 sk Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:22:21 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13601 Maybe we'll learn more about this business in another three decades--once Freedom of Information Act documents start becoming available--as happened a couple of years ago in UK when ministers learned of nuclear proliferation going on under their noses in the Sixties (details <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4789832.stm" rel="nofollow">here</a>, Realplayer video report <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news_web/video/9012da68003c1c8/nb/09012da68003c216_16x9_nb.ram" rel="nofollow">here</a>). Maybe we’ll learn more about this business in another three decades–once Freedom of Information Act documents start becoming available–as happened a couple of years ago in UK when ministers learned of nuclear proliferation going on under their noses in the Sixties (details here, Realplayer video report here).

]]> By: David Sugar http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13595 David Sugar Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:11:17 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13595 I commented on a perspective on this back in 2005 (Nuclear Proliferation a neocon goal) "http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Aug05/Sugar0815.htm". I can see how this ties closely into the activities of the proliferation network of Pakistani nuclear scientist Khan, which were observed and enabled by the U.S. government for a number of years before press reports surfaced and it had to suddenly be shut down. As far as I am aware, Khan is still held in house arrest in Pakistan, and perhaps remains alive simply because what he knows is Musarrif's best remaining bargaining chip with Washington. I commented on a perspective on this back in 2005 (Nuclear Proliferation a neocon goal) “http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Aug05/Sugar0815.htm”. I can see how this ties closely into the activities of the proliferation network of Pakistani nuclear scientist Khan, which were observed and enabled by the U.S. government for a number of years before press reports surfaced and it had to suddenly be shut down. As far as I am aware, Khan is still held in house arrest in Pakistan, and perhaps remains alive simply because what he knows is Musarrif’s best remaining bargaining chip with Washington.

]]> By: The Octopus http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13586 The Octopus Sun, 27 Jan 2008 02:01:34 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13586 Sibel Edmonds description of corrupt government officials and agencies trading in nuclear secrets matches up almost exactly with similar reports from over a decade earlier. Read this investigation into narco-trafficking, arms trafficking, and espionage titled <a href="http://www.lycaeum.org/books/books/last_circle/circle!.htm" rel="nofollow">"The Last Circle."</a> This is a must-read for anyone trying to make sense of the Sibel Edmonds story, and its larger context regarding 9-11. Search the text using the keyworks "nuclear" and "turk" for starters. Edmonds seems to have information on the high-level US government players in this criminal network, while "The Last Circle" details the lower-level narcotrafficking, ams trade, and export of weapons technology going on. Sibel Edmonds description of corrupt government officials and agencies trading in nuclear secrets matches up almost exactly with similar reports from over a decade earlier. Read this investigation into narco-trafficking, arms trafficking, and espionage titled “The Last Circle.” This is a must-read for anyone trying to make sense of the Sibel Edmonds story, and its larger context regarding 9-11. Search the text using the keyworks “nuclear” and “turk” for starters.

Edmonds seems to have information on the high-level US government players in this criminal network, while “The Last Circle” details the lower-level narcotrafficking, ams trade, and export of weapons technology going on.

]]> By: Ron http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13584 Ron Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:55:52 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13584 I don't care if both dems or reps were involved... I want the neo-cons to go down in a big way and this would do it once and for all. Assuming there are investigations that is. I don’t care if both dems or reps were involved… I want the neo-cons to go down in a big way and this would do it once and for all. Assuming there are investigations that is.

]]> By: softlabhennef http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13574 softlabhennef Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:56:57 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13574 Wayne Madsen: <a href="http://worldcontent.twoday.net/stories/4646769/" rel="nofollow">Grossman testifies on US embassies, subcommittee does not ask about Turkey or Brewster Jennings</a> Wayne Madsen: Grossman testifies on US embassies, subcommittee does not ask about Turkey or Brewster Jennings

]]> By: Anne Williamson http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13573 Anne Williamson Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:17:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13573 SK: Regarding Lawrence of Cyberia's claims: 1. The US Govt had and has practically zero capability in Middle Eastern languages. They aren't/weren't picky about security clearances when they need native speakers, an essential characteristic of those listening to, transcribing, and translating wiretaps. I don't know what language Cyberia worked in (Spanish?), but mine was Russian and the USGOV, also short throughout the useless Cold War of capable Russian linguists no matter their nationality, used many Soviets with little regard to their background in just this sort of grunt work and at this level, which though not highly-placed does give access by virtue of the work to the real nitty-gritty. Believe me, Edwards's rich background and linguistic capabilities would not have gummed up her clearance to work in Oct 2001 - she would have appeared as a godsend to those FBI incompetents charged with reviewing and analyzing wiretaps of Middle Easterners speaking their own languages. 2. Yes, her time at the agency was brief -- but, again, 6 months of a native speaker listening to FBI wiretaps would have been plenty of time for the listener to catch the plot, and since Sybil's allegations are very specific - case files and numbers and dates and names - she clearly was paying attention, and was and remains duly alarmed. From what I have read regarding her claims and evidence and the details of her story, I observed no partisanship on Sybil Edwards's part. SK: Regarding Lawrence of Cyberia’s claims:

1. The US Govt had and has practically zero capability in Middle Eastern languages. They aren’t/weren’t picky about security clearances when they need native speakers, an essential characteristic of those listening to, transcribing, and translating wiretaps. I don’t know what language Cyberia worked in (Spanish?), but mine was Russian and the USGOV, also short throughout the useless Cold War of capable Russian linguists no matter their nationality, used many Soviets with little regard to their background in just this sort of grunt work and at this level, which though not highly-placed does give access by virtue of the work to the real nitty-gritty. Believe me, Edwards’s rich background and linguistic capabilities would not have gummed up her clearance to work in Oct 2001 – she would have appeared as a godsend to those FBI incompetents charged with reviewing and analyzing wiretaps of Middle Easterners speaking their own languages.

2. Yes, her time at the agency was brief — but, again, 6 months of a native speaker listening to FBI wiretaps would have been plenty of time for the listener to catch the plot, and since Sybil’s allegations are very specific – case files and numbers and dates and names – she clearly was paying attention, and was and remains duly alarmed.

From what I have read regarding her claims and evidence and the details of her story, I observed no partisanship on Sybil Edwards’s part.

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13572 Mulga Mumblebrain Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:46:01 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13572 Is it not long, long since past time that we acknowledge that the real rulers of the planet are a species of uber-Mafiosi? Everyone is pissing in everybody else's pockets, the rackets are protected by the 'national security' nonsense, and rank criminality and the pursuit of money are triumphant. Add to this Universal Government by Organised Crime, the retail crime of the ordinary Mafias, Triads, Yakuzas etc and it is no wonder the world is in terminal decay. The character formation of the participants in this inescapable regime of globalised malfeasance is purely pathological. One wonders if there is any way out of this impasse, particularly considering how little time we have left. Chen Yi's methodology for dealing with the gangs of Shanghai recommends itself. Is it not long, long since past time that we acknowledge that the real rulers of the planet are a species of uber-Mafiosi? Everyone is pissing in everybody else’s pockets, the rackets are protected by the ‘national security’ nonsense, and rank criminality and the pursuit of money are triumphant. Add to this Universal Government by Organised Crime, the retail crime of the ordinary Mafias, Triads, Yakuzas etc and it is no wonder the world is in terminal decay. The character formation of the participants in this inescapable regime of globalised malfeasance is purely pathological. One wonders if there is any way out of this impasse, particularly considering how little time we have left. Chen Yi’s methodology for dealing with the gangs of Shanghai recommends itself.

]]> By: Tim http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13568 Tim Sat, 26 Jan 2008 06:47:47 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13568 This looks like a bipartisan mess. Presumably that's why both sides have kept away from exposing it to public investigation. Of course when these "I'll tit if you tat" agreements break down both sides get covered in mud. Which is what they both deserve of course. Let's hope the politics blows up before the bombs do. This looks like a bipartisan mess. Presumably that’s why both sides have kept away from exposing it to public investigation. Of course when these “I’ll tit if you tat” agreements break down both sides get covered in mud. Which is what they both deserve of course. Let’s hope the politics blows up before the bombs do.

]]> By: igmuska http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13561 igmuska Sat, 26 Jan 2008 03:20:21 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13561 reminds me of the Iran-Contra fiasco...5th Amendment, I plead the 5th Amendment reminds me of the Iran-Contra fiasco…5th Amendment, I plead the 5th Amendment

]]> By: William Martin http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13557 William Martin Sat, 26 Jan 2008 01:33:52 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13557 George Bush administartion did another terrible mistake cause Turkey is Islamic Country in event of Global Nuclear War Turkey will side to Iran, Pakistan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt against Israel and NATO. Turkey is spy and eye of Islam in NATO. Turkey is trojan horse to NATO. Stupid and morons all leaders of NATO why they let Turkey to joint NATO. George Bush administartion did another terrible mistake cause Turkey is Islamic Country in event of Global Nuclear War Turkey will side to Iran, Pakistan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt against Israel and NATO.
Turkey is spy and eye of Islam in NATO.
Turkey is trojan horse to NATO.
Stupid and morons all leaders of NATO why they let Turkey to joint NATO.

]]> By: Sunil Sharma http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13554 Sunil Sharma Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:52:29 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13554 Interesting that the White House press release mentions Clinton. Aside from making one wonder what was going on back in the late '90s, I think the Bush administration's main intent here is to signal to Democrats that if they investigate Edmonds' allegations, they'll be turning an unwanted spotlight on their own party as well, giving Dems like Waxman et al less incentive to carry out any investigation, public or otherwise. . . . not that Waxman has shown any sign of wanting to pick up Edmonds' incendiary potato. Interesting that the White House press release mentions Clinton. Aside from making one wonder what was going on back in the late ’90s, I think the Bush administration’s main intent here is to signal to Democrats that if they investigate Edmonds’ allegations, they’ll be turning an unwanted spotlight on their own party as well, giving Dems like Waxman et al less incentive to carry out any investigation, public or otherwise. . . . not that Waxman has shown any sign of wanting to pick up Edmonds’ incendiary potato.

]]> By: lukery http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13553 lukery Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:31:41 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13553 SK - Phil Giraldi <a href="http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2008/01/phil-giraldi-chats-about-sibel-edmonds.html" rel="nofollow">debunks that here</a> SK – Phil Giraldi debunks that here

]]> By: lukery http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13551 lukery Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:30:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13551 Thanks Josh. Great article! Thanks Josh. Great article!

]]> By: sk http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13544 sk Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:42:14 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/why-bush-wants-to-legalize-the-nuke-trade-with-turkey/#comment-13544 FYI, some <a href="http://lawrenceofcyberia.blogs.com/news/2008/01/in-defence-of-i.html" rel="nofollow">food for thought</a> about Sibel Edmonds's allegations. FYI, some food for thought about Sibel Edmonds’s allegations.

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