“We Can’t Afford to Let Them Spill the Beans”

Sibel Edmonds on Marc Grossman

I am not one to easily embrace conspiracy theories, and in particular have found the idea that 9-11 was somehow an inside job too incredible for serious consideration. On the other hand, there are some very fishy aspects to some officials’ behavior pertaining to the attacks. Justin Raimondo has made a very good case for the fact that Mossad agents posing as “Israeli art students” were tracking al-Qaeda operatives in the U.S. before 9/11.

Over 120 Israelis were detained after 9/11, some failing polygraph tests when asked about their involvement in intelligence gathering. But they were not held or charged with any illegal activity but rather deported. As former FBI translator and whistleblower Sibel Edmonds has revealed, there was a curious failure of the government before 9/11 to act upon intelligence pertaining to an al-Qaeda attack. Most importantly Edmonds, defying the gag order that former Attorney General Ashcroft imposed on her in 2002, is implicating Marc Grossman, formerly the number three man in the State Department, in efforts to provide US nuclear secrets to Pakistan and Israel. She suggests this was done through Turkish and Pakistani contacts, including the former head of Pakistan’s ISI who funneled funds to Mohamed Atta! Now there’s a conspiracy for you.

Edmonds claims that during her time at the FBI (September 20, 2001 to March 22, 2002) she discovered that intelligence material had been deliberately allowed to accumulate without translation; that inept translators were retained and promoted; and that evidence for traffic in nuclear materials was ignored. More shockingly, she charges that Grossman arranged for Turkish and Israeli Ph.D. students to acquire security clearances to Los Alamos and other nuclear facilities; and that nuclear secrets they acquired were transmitted to Pakistan and to Abdul Qadeer Khan, the “father of the Islamic bomb,” who in turn was selling nuclear technology to Libya and other nations.

She links Grossman to the former Pakistani military intelligence chief Mahmoud Ahmad, a patron of the Taliban, who reportedly arranged for a payment of $100,000 to 9/11 ringleader Atta via Pakistani terrorist Saeed Sheikh before the attacks. She suggests that he warned Pakistani and Turkish contacts against dealings with the Brewster Jennings Corp., the CIA front company that Valerie Plame was involved in as part of an effort to infiltrate a nuclear smuggling ring. All very heady stuff, published this month in The Times of London (and largely ignored by the U.S. media).

She does not identify Grossman by name in the Times article, but she has in the past, and former CIA officer Philip Giraldi does so in an extremely interesting article in the American Conservative. From that and many other sources, I come up with the timeline that appears below.

But first, some background on Grossman. A graduate of UC Santa Barbara and the London School of Economics, he was a career Foreign Service officer from 1976 when he began to serve at the US embassy in Pakistan. He continued in that post to 1983, when he became the Deputy Director of the Private Office of Lord Carrington, the Secretary General of NATO. From 1989 to 1992 he was Deputy Chief of Mission at the US Embassy in Turkey, and from 1994 to 1997, US Ambassador to Turkey. As ambassador he strongly supported massive arms deals between the US and Ankara.

Thereafter he was Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs, responsible for over 4,000 State Department employees posted in 50 sites abroad with a program budget of $1.2 billion to 2000. In 1999 he played a leading role in orchestrating NATO’s 50th anniversary Summit in Washington, and helped direct US participation in NATO’s military campaign in Kosovo that same year. As Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs from the beginning of George W. Bush’s administration to January 2005, he played a bit role in the Plame Affair, informing “Scooter” Libby of Plame’s CIA affiliation.

Grossman is close to the American Turkish Council (ATC) founded in 1994 as a sister organization to the American Israel Political Action Committee (AIPAC). Its founders include neoconservatives involved in the Israel-Turkey relationship, including Richard Perle and Douglas Feith, as well as Henry Kissinger, Brent Snowcroft and former congressman Stephen Solarz. (Perle and Feith had earlier been registered lobbyists for Turkey through Feith’s company, International Advisors Inc. Perle was at one point making $600,000 per year from such activity). Edmonds says this is “an association in name and in charter only; the reality is that it and other affiliated associations are the US government, lobbyists, foreign agents, and Military Industrial Complex.” (M. Christine Vick of Grossman’s Cohen Group serves on the Board of Advisors.) Grossman is also close to the American Turkish Association (ATA), and regularly speaks at its events.

Both ATA and ATC have been targets of FBI investigations because of their suspected ties with drug smuggling, but Edmonds claims she heard wiretaps connecting ATC with other illegal activities, some related to 9/11. The CIA has investigated it in connection with the smuggling of nuclear secrets and material. Valerie Plame and the CIA front group Brewster Jennings were monitoring it when Bush administration officials leaked her identity in July 2003. Edmonds, Giraldi, and researchers Christopher Deliso and Luke Ryland accuse him of suspiciously enriching himself while in government service. Nevertheless he was awarded the Foreign Service’s highest rank when President Bush appointed him to the rank of Career Ambassador in 2004, and received Secretary of State’s Distinguished Service Award the following year.

A dual Israeli-American national, Grossman has promoted the neocon agenda of forcing “regime change” in the Middle East. “[T]he time has come now,” he declared on the eve of the Iraq invasion, “to make a stand against this kind of connection between weapons of mass destruction and terrorism. And we think Iraq is a place to make that stand first . . . the great threat today is the nexus between weapons of mass destruction and terrorism.” But he has not been as conspicuous a war advocate as Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith, Libby, Bolton, and some others. (Perle and Feith, one should note, were also deeply involved in lobbying activities on behalf of Turkey as well as Israel in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Edelman was ambassador to Turkey 2003-05 where, chagrined by the Turkish failure to enthusiastically support the US occupation of Iraq, he deeply offended his hosts.) Grossman seems less an ideologue driven to make the world safer for Israel than a corrupt, amoral, self-aggrandizing opportunist. Anyway, here is an incomplete chronology of his alleged wrongdoing, along with other relevant details.


As newly appointed Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, Grossman assists Turkish, Israeli and other moles — mainly Ph.D. students — godfathering visa and arranging for security clearances to work in sensitive research facilities, including the Los Alamos nuclear laboratory in New Mexico. FBI taps his phone 2001-2, finds he is receiving bribes (one for $15,000). Edmonds states: “I heard at least three transactions like this over a period of 2½ years. There are almost certainly more.”

Between August and September: Grossman warns his Turkish associates seeking to acquire nuclear secrets that Brewster Jennings (for whom CIA agent Valerie Plame works) is a CIA front.

Sept. 4: Gen. Mahmoud Ahmad, the chief of Pakistan ’s intelligence service (ISI) arrives in US, meets with Grossman and other U.S. officials.

Sept. 10: Report by Amir Mateen in Pakistani newspaper Dawn ( Karachi ): “[Ahmad] also held long parleys with unspecified officials at the White House and the Pentagon. But the most important meeting was with Mark Grossman, US Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. US sources would not furnish any details beyond saying that the two discussed ‘matters of mutual interests.’”

Sept. 11: Gen. Ahmad is having breakfast in Washington with Congressman Porter Goss (R-Fla.) and Senator Bob Graham (D) when attacks occur.

(Goss had had 10 years in clandestine operations in CIA and later — September 22, 2003-May 5, 2006 — heads the organization. Graham and Goss later are the co-chairs of the joint House-Senate investigation that proclaimed there was “no smoking gun” as far as President George W. Bush having any advance knowledge of September 11.)

Immediately after the 9/11 attacks, FBI arrests people suspected of being involved with the attacks — including four Turkish and Pakistani associates of key targets of FBI’s counterintelligence operations. Sibel heard the targets tell Grossman: “We need to get them out of the U.S. because we can’t afford for them to spill the beans.” Grossman facilitates their release from jail and suspects immediately leave US without further investigation or interrogation.

Sept. 12-13: Meetings between Ahmad and Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage. Armitage threatens to bomb Pakistan “back to the Stone Age” unless it cooperates in US attack on Afghanistan. Ahmad also meets Secretary of State Colin Powell. Agreement on Pakistan’s collaboration is secured.

Sept. 20: Sibel Edmonds, a 32-year-old Turkish-American, hired as a translator by the FBI.

According to Edmonds, she overheard an agent on a 2000 wiretap discussing with Saudi businessmen in Detroit “nuclear information that had been stolen from an air force base in Alabama,” and stating: “We have a package and we’re going to sell it for $250,000.” She also claims she listened to recordings of a high official (Grossman) receiving bribes from Turkish officials.

Early October: Indian intelligence reports that Gen. Ahmad had in summer of 2001 ordered Saeed Sheikh (convicted of the kidnapping and killing of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl) to wire US$100,000 from Dubai to one of hijacker Mohamed Atta’s two bank accounts in Florida. FBI confirms story, reported on ABC news.

Oct. 7: US-led Coalition begins air strikes against Taliban.

Oct. 8: Gen. Ahmad, Taliban supporter and an opponent of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, forced to retire from his post as director-general of ISI.

Late Oct.: Pakistani government arrests three Pakistani nuclear scientists, all with close ties to Khan, for their suspected connections with the Taliban.


Early March: Edmonds sends faxes to Senators Chuck Grassley and Patrick Leahy on the Judiciary Committee, is called in for polygraph test; Department of Justice inspector general’s report states “she was not deceptive in her answers.”

March: Grossman keynote speaker at ATC conference.

March 22: Edmunds fired, allegedly for shoddy work, security breaches.

Oct. 27: Edmonds appears on CBS’ 60 Minutes program.

Dec: Grossman visits Turkey, approves $3 billion US aid to Turkey for the Iraq Cooperation deal.


March 3: In interview for Dutch television, Grossman says, “[T]he time has come now to make a stand against this kind of connection between weapons of mass destruction and terrorism. And we think Iraq is a place to make that stand first . . . the great threat today is the nexus between weapons of mass destruction and terrorism.”

May 29: Vice President Cheney’s chief of staff “Scooter” Libby asks Grossman for information about news report about the secret envoy sent by the CIA to Africa in 2002. Grossman requests a classified memo from Carl Ford, the director of the State Department’s intelligence bureau, and later orally briefs Libby on its contents.

Mid-June: Powell and his deputy secretary Richard Armitage may have received a copy of the Grossman memo.

June 10: Grossman asks the Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR) for a briefing on the Niger uranium issue, and specifically the State Department’s opposition to the continuing White House view that Iraq had tried to buy yellow cake. The resulting memo is dated the same day, and drawn from notes on the February 19 meeting at the CIA on the Wilson mission and other sources. Memo is classified “Top Secret,” and contains in one paragraph, separately marked “(S/NF)” for “Secret/No dissemination to foreign governments or intelligence agencies,” two sentences describing in passing Valerie “Wilson’s” identity as a CIA operative and her role in the inception of the Wilson trip to Niger. This June 10 memo reportedly does not use her maiden name Plame.

June 17-July 9: Senate Judiciary Committee holds unclassified hearings on Edmunds’ allegations.

June 19: letter from Senior Republican Senator, Charles Grassley, and Senior Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy to Inspector General Glenn A. Fine concerning Edmonds’ allegations.

July 14: Robert Novak reveals Plame’s CIA identity.

July 22: Edmonds files suit against the Department of Justice, the FBI, and several high-level officials, alleging that she was wrongfully terminated from the FBI in retaliation for reporting criminal activities committed by government employees.

Aug. 13: letter from two senators to Attorney General Ashcroft concerning Sibel Edmonds’ allegations.

Aug. 15: 600 victims of the 9/11 attacks file suit (Burnett v. Al Baraka Investment & Dev. Corp.), request from Edmonds deposition providing evidence for US government foreknowledge of 9-11 attacks.

Sept. 22: Goss made CIA Director (resigns May 5, 2006).

Oct. 18, 2002: Attorney General John Ashcroft invokes the State Secrets Privilege (requested not by Justice Department but by State department) in order to prevent disclosure of the nature of Edmonds’ work on the grounds that it would endanger national security, and asked that her wrongful termination suit be dismissed, in effect placing Edmonds under a gag order.

Congressman Henry Waxman (D-Ca.) expresses outrage at gag order, promises that a Democratic majority in Congress would conduct hearings. (This has not been done.)

Oct. 28: Letter from two senators to FBI Director Robert Mueller concerning Sibel Edmonds’ allegations.

Dec. 11, 2003, Attorney General Ashcroft again invoking the State Secrets Privilege, files a motion calling for Edmonds’ deposition in Burnett v. Al Baraka case be suppressed and for the entire case to be dismissed. The judge, seeking more information, orders government to produce any unclassified material relating to the case. In response, Ashcroft submits further statements to justify the use of the State Secrets Privilege.

Dec: Grossman back in Turkey to approve Turkey ’s eligibility to participate in tenders for Iraq’s reconstruction.


Grossman achieves Foreign Service’s highest rank when President Bush appoints him to rank of Career Ambassador.

Patrick Leahy calls for investigation; Sen. Orrin Hatch, Republican Chairman of the Senate, blocks it.

May 13: Ashcroft retroactively classifies all material that had been provided to Senate Judiciary Committee in 2000 relating to Edmond’s lawsuit, as well as the senators’ letters that had already been posted on-line by the Project on Government Oversight (POGO).

June 23: POGO files lawsuit against Justice Department for classifying material it had published; Justice Department fails to get the case dismissed.

July 6: Edmonds suit dismissed on state secrets grounds.

July: Edmonds files appeal. On same day, Inspector General releases unclassified summary of a highly classified report on an investigation that had concluded “that many of her allegations were supported, that the FBI did not take them seriously enough, and that her allegations were, in fact, the most significant factor in the FBI’s decision to terminate her services. . . Rather than investigate Edmonds’ allegations vigorously and thoroughly, the FBI concluded that she was a disruption and terminated her contract.”

August: Edmonds founds the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC) to address US security weaknesses.

December: Grossman the key speaker at an ATC Conference held at the Omni Shoreham Hotel.


Grossman receives Secretary of State’s Distinguished Service Award.

January: Grossman quits his government job. Eric Edelman, another former ambassador to Turkey, takes job of Under Secretary of Defence for Policy.

January: Pakistani nuclear engineer A.Q. Khan confesses to having been involved in a clandestine international network of nuclear weapons technology proliferation from Pakistan to Libya, Iran and North Korea.

Feb. 5: Pakistani President General Pervez Musharraf announces he has pardoned Khan. US response is mild.

March: Grossman made vice-chairman of Cohen Group.

Feb. 18: Justice Department under new attorney general backs away from claim that documents posted by POGO were classified.

April 21: In the hours before the hearing of her appeal, three judges issued a ruling that barred all reporters and the public from the courtroom. During the proceedings, Edmonds was not allowed into the courtroom for the hearing.

May 6: Edmonds’ case dismissed, no reason provided, no opinion cited.

May 14: In open letter, Edmonds states the governments wants to silence her to “protect certain diplomatic relations” and to “protect certain U.S. foreign business relations.” Says the “foreign relations” mentioned in the gag order “are not in the interest of, or of benefit to, the majority of Americans, but instead serve and protect a small minority.”

June 20: Edmonds writes: “(In) April 2001, a long-term FBI informant/asset who had been providing the bureau with information since 1990, provided two FBI agents and a translator with specific information regarding a terrorist attack being planned by Osama Bin Laden. For almost four years since September 11, officials refused to admit to having specific information regarding the terrorists’ plans to attack the United States. The Phoenix Memo, received months prior to the 9/11 attacks, specifically warned FBI HQ of pilot training and their possible link to terrorist activities against the US. Four months prior to the terrorist attacks the Iranian asset provided the FBI with specific information regarding the ‘use of airplanes’, ‘major US cities as targets’, and ‘Osama Bin Laden issuing the order.’ Coleen Rowley likewise reported that specific information had been provided to FBI HQ.”

July 20: Unidentified as a “retired state department official” Grossman tells AP that a classified State Department memo disputed the legitimacy of administration claims that Iraq sought to acquire uranium from Niger, also contained a few lines about Plame Wilson’s CIA employment, marked as secret.

August 5: The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) petitioned for the Supreme Court of the United States to review the lower courts’ application of the State Secret Privilege in both lawsuits. The ACLU claims that the courts conflated the State Secrets Privilege and the Totten rule.

Sept. 28: Washington Post cites unnamed former administration source (Grossman) as stating that the outing of Plame was “Clearly . . . meant purely and simply for revenge.”

Oct. 28: In Patrick Fitzgerald’s indictment of I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, Grossman is the Under Secretary of State mentioned as giving information about Plame to Libby.

November: Grossman attends lavish Turkish Ottoman Dinner Gala, receives award from Turkish lobby group, the Assembly of American Turkish Association (ATAA) in Chicago.

Nov. 28: the Supreme Court declined to review the decisions made in the Edmonds case.


March: Grossman the key speaker at the ATC annual conference.

June: Grossman key speaker at MERIA Conference, discussing Turkey’s importance to US and Israel.

Sept. 2006: a documentary about Sibel Edmonds’ case called Kill The Messenger (“Une Femme à Abattre”) premiers in France. (watch film here)


January 24: Grossman first to testify in Libby trial. Says he informed Libby of Plame’s involvement “in about 30 seconds of conversation” in June 2003.

November: Grossman subpoenaed by defense in AIPAC trial.

Nov. 26: Grossman, now Vice Chairman of the consulting firm the Cohen Group, attends a major Security Conference in Riga, Latvia.


January: Edmonds posts, without comment, photos of current and former officials and Turkish associates on website: Richard Perle, Eric Edelman, Marc Grossman, Brent Snowcroft, Larry Franklin, Ex-House Speaker Dennis Hastert, Roy Blunt (R-Mo), Dan Burton (R-Ind.), Tom Lantos (D-Ca.), Bob Livingston (ex-House Speaker, R-La.), Stephen Solarz (D-NY), Graham Fulle (RAND), David Makovsky (WINEP), Martin Markovsky (WINEP), Yusuf Turani (president in exile of Turkmenistan), Prof. Sabri Sayari (Columbia University, WINEP), Mehmet Eymur (former head of Turkish counter-terrorism).

Jan. 6: The Times of London carries story, “For sale: West’s deadly nuclear secrets.” States that a high official “was aiding foreign operatives against US interests by passing them highly classified information, not only from the State Department but also from the Pentagon, in exchange for money, position and political objectives.” Claims that the FBI was also gathering evidence against senior Pentagon officials — including household names — who were aiding foreign agents.

“If you made public all the information that the FBI have on this case, you will see very high-level people going through criminal trials.”

Jan. 22: White House issues statement declaring its intention to approve sale of nuclear secrets to Turkey; Joshua Frank writes on January 25, “It appears the White House has been spooked by Edmonds and hopes to absolve the US officials allegedly involved in the illegal sale of nuclear technology to private Turkish ‘entities’.” Frank identifies Grossman as one of these officials.

* * * * *

Edmonds is tirelessly and fearlessly campaigning for Congressman Waxman, now chair of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, to hold hearings. She says that FBI agents and even former Turkish intelligence officials are willing and able to validate her charges. But the congressman hesitates, perhaps fearing the storm of indignation that explosive evidence will produce in a country sick of its politicians, the lying neocons, and the war. Should they discover that, while disseminating disinformation about foreign nukes in order to fearmonger and build support for aggressive war, some of these officials were actually peddling nuclear secrets — committing treason while receiving honors for their patriotic service — the response could be explosive.

The Office of Special Plans under Abram Shulsky and Douglas Feith cherry-picked the intelligence vetted through the New York Times to terrify people into supporting an attack on Iraq. Democratic leaders have in the past urged an investigation of that spooky office, but furnished the opportunity since November 2006, they have declined to hold hearings. The Italian parliament conducted a study of the Niger uranium hoax, fingering neocon Michael Ledeen as a key suspect in forging documents designed to provide a casus belli before the Iran attack. Congress does nothing to follow up. In effect they are saying that the administration has a right to lie to the people. The presidential pardon granted Libby is a clear statement that it’s okay to punish whistleblowers like Joseph Wilson. The Supreme Court refuses to hear Edmonds’ appeal. It seems that all three branches of government compete to coddle the most unscrupulous and lawless officials, while marginalizing or punishing honest citizens who expose the rot.

The publication of the National Intelligence Estimate undercutting the administration’s case for attacking Iran indicates that there are in the US intelligence community persons alarmed by the administration’s lies and efforts to justify more aggression based on lies. It enrages the neocons who, with Norman Podhoretz in the lead, have been praying for Bush to bomb Iran. The arrest and conviction of Feith subordinate Larry Franklin shows that within the FBI there are forces disturbed at the close connections between the neocons, Israeli intelligence, and the Israel lobby and are willing to take action against lawbreaking. But Feith and Perle have both been investigated before, Perle for discussing classified information with Israeli Embassy staff in an FBI-monitored phone call in Washington in 1970. But the cases dropped for apparent political reasons. Perhaps the Grossman story will gain some traction. Maybe it will prove egregious enough that the tide will turn. Maybe Bush’s last year of office will see the neocons’ thorough exposure, humiliation and defeat.

Or maybe Waxman, Rep. Conyers and others in positions to honestly confront this most mendacious of administrations will continue to dither, feeding the assumption of the most vicious, cynical and corrupt that they are indeed above the law. And earning the contempt of those naïve enough to expect serious congressional oversight of a rogue regime.

Gary Leupp is a Professor of History at Tufts University, and author of numerous works on Japanese history. He can be reached at: gleupp@granite.tufts.edu. Read other articles by Gary.

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  1. jack bergman said on January 28th, 2008 at 8:59am #

    An amazing article! Excellent work.

  2. Edward Rynearson said on January 28th, 2008 at 10:15am #

    Clip of Scott Horton interview with Philip Giraldi regarding Sibel Edmonds.

  3. simuvac said on January 28th, 2008 at 10:22am #

    Thanks for the summary. This is very useful. The facts were beginning to overwhelm me!

  4. Espresso said on January 28th, 2008 at 1:55pm #

    Wow! That is really fascinating and shocking! Rep. Waxman is one of the biggest supporters of Israel out there, so he could be clamping down on having hearings, because he can see how it might create a public backlash against Zionists in government and put into question the U.S. Israel relationship.

  5. greybeard said on January 28th, 2008 at 4:10pm #

    Connecting the dots is crucial–Grossman has dual “nationality”, but one loyalty, as is true of all Zionists. He is by no means the first, nor will he be the last, to commit treason against the U.S. in order to serve Israel. Whether we are talking about the pilots who gave experimental radar equipment to the Communist Czechs, American Zionists stealing weapons-grade Uranium from a purification facility, or giving classified documents to a foreign power (Israel)–the loyalty and devotion is to that nation-state. I don’t know which is more treasonous–Bush or Grossman.

  6. Mulga Mumblebrain said on January 28th, 2008 at 6:35pm #

    I know that this article, with its carefully marshalled facts and cogent arguments, will simply be dismissed by the judeofascists as ‘anti-Semitism’ or ‘peddling anti-Semitic canards’. It’s rather like a zoologists listing the features of large ears, tusks and pachydermatous integuement, drawing the conclusion that we are dealing with a large, herbivorous and potentially dangerous animal, and then being being accused, by an outraged pachyderm, of ‘anti-elephantism’.

  7. Richard said on January 28th, 2008 at 7:49pm #

    I very much enjoyed the article. Except at the beginning when you said: “I am not one to easily embrace conspiracy theories, and in particular have found the idea that 9-11 was somehow an inside job too incredible for serious consideration.”

    A great many scientists, architects, engineers, professors, military professionals, and more have found consideration of 911 as an inside job very credible indeed. I believe very few of us would hardly be considered naive, credulous, gullible or uncritical in our thinking.
    Dr. Richard W.
    Forensic Neuropsychologist

  8. The Octopus said on January 28th, 2008 at 8:32pm #

    The article states: “Both ATA and ATC have been targets of FBI investigations because of their suspected ties with drug smuggling, but Edmonds claims she heard wiretaps connecting ATC with other illegal activities, some related to 9/11. The CIA has investigated it in connection with the smuggling of nuclear secrets and material.”

    The above statement is misleading. The CIA has been directly involved in the smuggling of the nuclear secrets and the drug smuggling. This has been going on for decades before 9/11. To fully understand the scope of what Sibel Edmonds has uncovered here, read “The Last Circle” by Carol Marshall.


    To summarize, The Last Circle describes how the CIA, in conjunction with former FBI and military officers, and the spy agencies of other countries, including the Mossad, operates outside the US government trading guns, drugs, and military secrets for their own personal profit and political agendas. Sibel Edmonds describes the same type of complex operation taking place years later, and names people connected to the first Bush administration, during which many of these crimes took place.

    Suggested reading to make sense of Sibel Edmonds’ revelations, in order of relevance:


    The Secret Team by L. Fletcher Prouty (linked above)

    The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia by Alfred McCoy

    “Whiteout” by Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair

  9. lukery said on January 28th, 2008 at 10:08pm #

    Good work, Gary. Thanks.

    Sibel gave a new interview yesterday. (I believe it will also be posted here at DV tomorrow)

  10. rjhuntington said on January 29th, 2008 at 4:59am #

    “…the idea that 9-11 was somehow an inside job [is] too incredible for serious consideration.”

    Why do you find that idea too incredible for serious consideration? Don’t you instead find the official explanation too incredible for serious consideration? The idea that jet fuel could make a fire hot enough to ever, much less in under an hour, bring down a steel skyscraper? This idea isn’t too incredible for you, but the logical explanation that the WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolition is? Huh?

    How, then, do you explain pools of molten metal (bright orange and yellow, not just red!) in the footprints of the towers 5 and 6 weeks after the towers came down? And this is only one documented anomaly.

    Jet fuel, that’s a good one! hahaha.

    I nominate you for a Pollyanna award. You must believe that men of high station are too honorable, too honest, too good in their hearts to ever do something as patently evil as destroy a landmark building full of fellow citizens in their own land, even if they and their cohorts stood to gain enormously.

    The rest of your article, however, seems to reveal a chink in the armor, as it were, an acknowledgment that perhaps some things are not as they appear, not quite as neat as the government would like us to believe.

    Keep digging into 9/11, please. What we need are erstwhile believers in the government’s official conspiracy theory — like yourself, perhaps? — to become its biggest skeptics and to relentlessly tear down the myths, obfuscations and fabrications until the truth is at last fully on display for all to see.

    Then, maybe, we can again become the Land of the Free.

  11. Shabnam said on January 29th, 2008 at 2:13pm #

    Noam Chomsky also thinks those who believe 9/11 was an inside job “too incredible for serious consideration.” He thinks this is extremely unlikey. Chomsky says this because he knows if he rejects the official phony explanation then he should be prepared to accept Israeli’s hands in the terror and since he has always protected the interest of Israel first and most, he rejects any other explanation for the crime of 9/11. Please watch the video.


  12. Headspin said on January 29th, 2008 at 4:54pm #

    does anyone else suspect that this cabal of traitors were trying to smuggle WMD across the turkish border into iraq to setup saddam but were uncovered by Valerie Plame and her cia front Brewster Jennings before they could complete it. Is that the real reason for outing her, because she was onto them? At the time I remember stories in the turkish press about a taxi driver caught with radioactive material under his cab seat on the border. I put nothing past these people.

    “I have found the idea that 9-11 was somehow an inside job too incredible for serious consideration”
    – wake up, of course it was. You are familiar with Operation Northwoods? – a plan to kill, yes KILL amercian citizens in washington and other cities, read the annex to appendix to enclosure A of the Operation Northwoods document.

  13. Winter Patriot said on January 29th, 2008 at 9:09pm #

    Great work, Gary! I agree with the other comments about the “inside job” remark but I recognize the value of that opening in venues where guys like us are not so plentiful.

    If you still have trouble believing 9/11 was an inside job, you might find this link helpful:

    Headspin: YES. Some other people DO suspect that.

    Shabnam: YES! Exactly.

    Octopus: Thanks for all those links!

    Mulga: RIGHT ON!! Anti-elephantism, indeed. You know the elephants were persecuted once, and there’s still anti-elephantism out there, and … therefore … um … whenever you see an elephant on a rampage, you’re not allowed to mention it. I think that’s right.

    You guys would really hate my blog.


  14. rjhuntington said on January 30th, 2008 at 2:54am #

    Headspin, that’s precisely what I believed went down. Valerie Plame deprived the neocons of the ace up their sleeve, their justification for invading Iraq, when her Brewster-Jennings CIA operation prevented the neocons from planting WMD in Iraq.

    Recall that before the invasion Rumsfeld boasted, “We even know where they are” in reference to WMD in Iraq, and proceeded to name locations. In view of the fact that the WMD turned out not to be there, how could Rumsfeld “know where they are” unless the neocons had plans to put them there? That was their was pre-invasion planning, how to smuggle in the WMD.

    The traitorous neocons have deprived America of the ability to monitor WMD movement around the globe because of their anger over the agent in charge of the CIA group that stopped their plan, Valerie Plame.

  15. Bill Jones said on January 30th, 2008 at 7:26am #

    I love this “conspiracy theory” denial. What’s the Governments version
    of 9/11 if not a conspiracy theory? It’s the Geico conspiracy theory:
    “9/11—— So easy a caveman can do it”

  16. Gerard Mulholland said on January 30th, 2008 at 4:31pm #

    I think it important to remember that it is the DUTY of all Intelligence Services to acquire the best possible information on the activities, internal debates, personalities and policies of all and any other organisations considered to be inimical to the government or cause that they have been created to serve.
    To this end it is their DUTY to penetrate to the deepest degree possible both other Intelligence Services and also other organisations that fall within this ambit. The IRA, the German RAF, the Basque and Corsican Independence movements and Al Qa’ida are but a few that come to mind in this latter context.
    The US, UK and Soviet penetrations of each others Intelligence Services and the Israeli penetration of the US State Department and of the Pentagon are now well documented. The fine line between -on the one hand- reporting on the thinking at the heart of an organisation and -on the other hand- INFLUENCING that thinking shows every sign of having been crossed in all these cases.
    It is not difficult to appreciate that just as UK Intelligence achieved the coup of participating at the heart of IRA planning so is it the DUTY of the Israeli Intelligence Services to penetrate to the very heart of all radical Islamist organisations and -if possible- take a hand in directing some of their activities in a manner that the Government of Israel perceives to be in its own interest.
    Indeed, if the Israeli Intelligence Services have NOT penetrated to the heart of Al Qa’ida, they have FAILED in their most serious duty.
    It is in this context that all discussion about Al Qa’ida and ‘what did a) the US and b) Israel know and when?’ should be considered.

  17. Headspin said on January 31st, 2008 at 4:59am #

    Gerard Mulholland – I agree with most of what you say, but you make a fatal mistake. Al Quaeda is not an organisaion, it is an idea. The Mujahadeen were setup by Brezezinski and the CIA as a “terrorist group” in order to destabalise afghanistan and draw in the soviets into “the bear trap” (by his own admission). The official history says the mujahadeen and the CIA responded to soviet aggression, but it was actually the other way around. since its inception bin laden and the mujahadeen were setup, funded and supplied by western interests, the “training camps” that were bombed after 911 were just deserted CIA camps from a bygone era. Al Quaeda as an organisation is just an idea that acts as a lightening rod for disaffected muslims, patsies and clandestine ops, the idea of al-quaeda enables the west to manipulate its patsies. The KLA in bosnia were part of the same “Al queada” network, bin laden and aq were working with the cia and nato in bosnia in the summer of 2001 just a few months before 911. blowback? the “Al quaeda” network has always had a symbiotic partner – think about it! what you’ve written above assumes that al-quaeda is a real organisation that grew independently and somehow needed to be penetrated – brezeinski and the cia created it! why would they create it and then de-couple themselves from it? Bin laden is dead long ago, everything else is made up to scare you.
    read michel chossudovsky’s book “americans war on terrorism”

  18. JG said on January 31st, 2008 at 4:15pm #

    If this ever fully unravels it would transform life throughout the planet. Perhaps the mass deceptions pushed so virulently by the psychopathic ubermensch at the CFR & Bilderberg are finally beginning to collapse?

    The Plame/Wilson business is far more multi-faceted, deeper and darker than most people realise – for an in depth study of what is at stake (not ‘just’ missing Minot nukes!) start at the beginning here:-

    Above all, do whatever you can to ‘protect’ Sibel Edmonds by disseminating her knowledge far and wide – this is the roughest game with the roughest players on the planet and she knows it.

    As for Rumsfeld and Cheney – they’ve been peddling the same old paranoiac lies for over 30 years now – odd that so few have caught on to their schtick yet…

    Zionism has so much to answer for, so much death and destruction to atone for…