Comments on: The Right to Our Land Must Be Restored http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-right-to-our-land-must-be-restored/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:13:54 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: gerald spezio http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-right-to-our-land-must-be-restored/#comment-10119 gerald spezio Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:45:45 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-right-to-our-land-must-be-restored/#comment-10119 Fareed, the empty, very empty, very uninhabited land belongs to the SETTLERS who done settled it, hey! Fareed, there are laws! Fareed, the empty, very empty, very uninhabited land belongs to the SETTLERS who done settled it, hey!

Fareed, there are laws!

]]> By: gerald spezio http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-right-to-our-land-must-be-restored/#comment-10118 gerald spezio Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:42:18 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-right-to-our-land-must-be-restored/#comment-10118 THE SETTLERS - that's the pitch. The settlers from the Ukraine exited their Conestoga wagons and started cashing checks on the empty, very empty, very uninhabited soil of their promised land where nary a discouraging word was even sub-vocalized in the dry desert air. THE SETTLERS – that’s the pitch.

The settlers from the Ukraine exited their Conestoga wagons and started cashing checks on the empty, very empty, very uninhabited soil of their promised land where nary a discouraging word was even sub-vocalized in the dry desert air.

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-right-to-our-land-must-be-restored/#comment-10093 jaime Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:33:00 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-right-to-our-land-must-be-restored/#comment-10093 Occupation sucks. But that’s what can happen when somebody tries to annihilate somebody else and then loses. And the Palestinians have only themselves and their irregular warfare to blame for the wall. But what I really want to bring attention to is this little calumny here: “…They (Israelis)have even entered mosques and desecrated the Quran inside….” This is an accusation of religious defilement. Actually it’s not even an accusation. It’s presented as a done deal without, of course, any substantiation. That makes it a blood libel. Perfect stuff here for DV though. I’m going to save a copy of this posting in case the editors don’t want you to consider these words. Occupation sucks. But that’s what can happen when somebody tries to annihilate somebody else and then loses. And the Palestinians have only themselves and their irregular warfare to blame for the wall.
But what I really want to bring attention to is this little calumny here:
“…They (Israelis)have even entered mosques and desecrated the Quran inside….”
This is an accusation of religious defilement. Actually it’s not even an accusation. It’s presented as a done deal without, of course, any substantiation. That makes it a blood libel.
Perfect stuff here for DV though.
I’m going to save a copy of this posting in case the editors don’t want you to consider these words.

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-right-to-our-land-must-be-restored/#comment-10092 jaime Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:08:51 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-right-to-our-land-must-be-restored/#comment-10092 First time I’ve seen someone giving a hard time to our other editor for being Jewish. Maybe Joshua will learn something important by it. Maybe the lesson is similar to the one that Norm Finkelstein just had… You can hang with antisemities, terror-lovers and rat bags of every description, and even try to become like them in hopes of being accepted. But sooner or later you’re going to get called a “dirty Jew” no matter what you do. First time I’ve seen someone giving a hard time to our other editor for being Jewish.
Maybe Joshua will learn something important by it.
Maybe the lesson is similar to the one that Norm Finkelstein just had…
You can hang with antisemities, terror-lovers and rat bags of every description, and even try to become like them in hopes of being accepted.
But sooner or later you’re going to get called a “dirty Jew” no matter what you do.

]]> By: Deadbeat http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-right-to-our-land-must-be-restored/#comment-10069 Deadbeat Mon, 03 Dec 2007 05:33:14 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-right-to-our-land-must-be-restored/#comment-10069 <i>I think Joshua’s answer to Gerald Spezio about what motivates Clinton and what drives Israeli-Palestinian conflict is about as succinct and accurate as one is bound to see.</i> Mr. Frank does an excellent job providing a radical analysis of Liberals and how they dilute radicalism and any chance for progressive change his analysis here and his response to Mr. Spezio is downright <i>reactionary</i> and cynical. Mr. Frank claims that … Hillary is in essence a power driven elitist. But that not analysis. Such a description can be labeled against any an all “leaders”. The question is their advocacy. One of the “excuses” the left could use upon GW Bush (Texas), Chaney and Rice is that since they all had background with oil firms that could be use by the left to justify their “War For Oil” explanation. However Clinton was not known with having a long association with oil firms. However with Clinton being a Senator from New York State the likelihood of her having an affinity toward Zionism is much more likely. What Mr. Frank is doing is diluting the role Zionism has in influencing and shaping Ms. Clinton advocacy. This is a rather dishonest analysis as we have seen numerous article here on DV by James Petras that has clearly detailed oil firms being against the Iraq invasion. As well as the military being tepid in their desire to invade Iraq and being more vocal against the invasion in Iran. It is also dishonest not to examine Zionism and how it contributes to maintaining LARGE U.S. military budget as a large military budget is required in order for the U.S. to engage in these Middle East incursion that would now appear to benefit Israeli hegemony. Even some members of the right have questioned the bloated military budgets and maintenance of bases world wide. Apparently the “left” suffers from myopia. Even the venerable Bill Moyers ignores Zionism (AIPAC/Jewish variety) and is only fears the “Christian” variety. Apparently, Dutch TV is willing to tackle the issue that the U.S. "left" is too cowardly to honestly discuss. Here a link … <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2894821400057137878&q=israel+lobby&total=775&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0" rel="nofollow"> The Israel Lobby</a> I think Joshua’s answer to Gerald Spezio about what motivates Clinton and what drives Israeli-Palestinian conflict is about as succinct and accurate as one is bound to see.

Mr. Frank does an excellent job providing a radical analysis of Liberals and how they dilute radicalism and any chance for progressive change his analysis here and his response to Mr. Spezio is downright reactionary and cynical.

Mr. Frank claims that … Hillary is in essence a power driven elitist. But that not analysis. Such a description can be labeled against any an all “leaders”. The question is their advocacy.

One of the “excuses” the left could use upon GW Bush (Texas), Chaney and Rice is that since they all had background with oil firms that could be use by the left to justify their “War For Oil” explanation. However Clinton was not known with having a long association with oil firms. However with Clinton being a Senator from New York State the likelihood of her having an affinity toward Zionism is much more likely.

What Mr. Frank is doing is diluting the role Zionism has in influencing and shaping Ms. Clinton advocacy. This is a rather dishonest analysis as we have seen numerous article here on DV by James Petras that has clearly detailed oil firms being against the Iraq invasion. As well as the military being tepid in their desire to invade Iraq and being more vocal against the invasion in Iran.

It is also dishonest not to examine Zionism and how it contributes to maintaining LARGE U.S. military budget as a large military budget is required in order for the U.S. to engage in these Middle East incursion that would now appear to benefit Israeli hegemony. Even some members of the right have questioned the bloated military budgets and maintenance of bases world wide. Apparently the “left” suffers from myopia.

Even the venerable Bill Moyers ignores Zionism (AIPAC/Jewish variety) and is only fears the “Christian” variety. Apparently, Dutch TV is willing to tackle the issue that the U.S. “left” is too cowardly to honestly discuss.

Here a link …

The Israel Lobby

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