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	<title>Comments on: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Disappoints</title>
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		<title>By: Hatuxka</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10207</link>
		<dc:creator>Hatuxka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are seeing possibly the beginning of this Kennedy&#039;s move into politics per se.</description>
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		<title>By: gerald spezio</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10173</link>
		<dc:creator>gerald spezio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a current mess in Gaza! 

Murdered Palestinian people everywhere.

What a narrative!

And so current that it is really current as in NOW!

No wind farms, but the divine Zionist wind everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a current mess in Gaza! </p>
<p>Murdered Palestinian people everywhere.</p>
<p>What a narrative!</p>
<p>And so current that it is really current as in NOW!</p>
<p>No wind farms, but the divine Zionist wind everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcelle Cendrars</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10141</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcelle Cendrars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 06:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have something for both Michael Donnelly and Max Shields to chew on. If either one contacts me at bcendra@yahoo.com, I&#039;ll be happy to forward something worthwhile...relevant to what&#039;s being addressed here. As you like, Marcelle Cendrars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have something for both Michael Donnelly and Max Shields to chew on. If either one contacts me at <a href="mailto:&#x62;&#x63;&#x65;&#x6e;&#x64;&#x72;&#x61;&#x40;&#x79;&#x61;&#x68;&#x6f;&#x6f;&#x2e;&#x63;om">&#x62;&#x63;&#x65;&#x6e;&#x64;&#x72;&#x61;&#x40;&#x79;&#x61;&#x68;&#x6f;&#x6f;&#x2e;&#x63;om</a>, I&#8217;ll be happy to forward something worthwhile&#8230;relevant to what&#8217;s being addressed here. As you like, Marcelle Cendrars.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10129</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Donnelly What say  you start your only little party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Donnelly What say  you start your only little party.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Donnelly</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10127</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Donnelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but Hillary won&#039;t allow wind farms in view of the Hyannisport Club.

Not only do folks swallow the Myth of the Democrats, they choke on a myth of a progressive Green Party. Stick a fork in the &quot;Greens.&quot; Cobb, Glick, Bobier et al.&#039;s self-promotionalism killed it off, somewould say intentionally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but Hillary won&#8217;t allow wind farms in view of the Hyannisport Club.</p>
<p>Not only do folks swallow the Myth of the Democrats, they choke on a myth of a progressive Green Party. Stick a fork in the &#8220;Greens.&#8221; Cobb, Glick, Bobier et al.&#8217;s self-promotionalism killed it off, somewould say intentionally.</p>
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		<title>By: gerald spezio</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10116</link>
		<dc:creator>gerald spezio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Goebbels! 

Whaddaguy!

His technique has conquered the world including Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Goebbels! </p>
<p>Whaddaguy!</p>
<p>His technique has conquered the world including Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10101</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Green Party self-destructed in 2004.&quot;

Oh, really?

&quot;Another problem with the Green has been their lack of recruiting people of color into their ranks.&quot;

Oh, really?

&quot;Only when the left (whites) cease being cowardly on the seriousness of racism can they then be trusted and taken seriously to build solidarity.&quot;

You don&#039;t say.

Democracy it&#039;s such a damn messy thing for some. It&#039;s the damn zionist again. Jim Crow is a Zionist infiltration. Cynthia McKinney - who&#039;s an African Amerian woman running for President on the Green party ticket - is a zionist infiltrator. This is a boring deadbeat narrative, the kind to take the US foreign policies and Israel&#039;s policies off the hook in Goebbels style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Green Party self-destructed in 2004.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, really?</p>
<p>&#8220;Another problem with the Green has been their lack of recruiting people of color into their ranks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, really?</p>
<p>&#8220;Only when the left (whites) cease being cowardly on the seriousness of racism can they then be trusted and taken seriously to build solidarity.&#8221;</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t say.</p>
<p>Democracy it&#8217;s such a damn messy thing for some. It&#8217;s the damn zionist again. Jim Crow is a Zionist infiltration. Cynthia McKinney &#8211; who&#8217;s an African Amerian woman running for President on the Green party ticket &#8211; is a zionist infiltrator. This is a boring deadbeat narrative, the kind to take the US foreign policies and Israel&#8217;s policies off the hook in Goebbels style.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10066</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Can we get some Green energy? WE need to make sure the Greens get a real candidate in there who can stand for new progressive (not old left) values.What other national party is demanding that Bush keep the CIA out of Venezuela? http://www.gp.org/
&lt;/i&gt;

The Green Party self-destructed in 2004.  The GP needs to restructure their organizational structures.  The GP was infiltrated by &quot;demo-green&quot;.  Greens who did not want to challenge the Democratic Party and used their undemocratic &quot;state-based&quot; weighted vote tally to dilute the desires of the majority of Green Party members who wanted to mount a direct challenge.  You have people like Medea Benjamin thwart the aspiration of many Greens who wanted to support Ralph Nader but instated mounted a campaign to put David Cobb on the ballot.

The result was this &quot;Anybody But Bush/Safe-State&quot; mantra that was supported by so-called &quot;left&quot;; so-called &quot;progressives&quot; like Michael Albert, Howard Zinn, and Noam Chomsky.  This split the anti-war movement who placed their hopes on war-monger John Kerry and the result was a loss of ballot lines for the Green Party.

Another problem with the Green has been their lack of recruiting people of color into their ranks.  Once again because the &quot;left&quot; (whites) are weak on confronting ALL FORMS OF RACISM (ie Zionism) they cannot possible be serious in building solidarity among people of color therefore the Green Party will not ever be taken seriously because their cannot seriously expand their ranks.

Only when the left (whites) cease being cowardly on the seriousness of racism can they then be trusted and taken seriously to build solidarity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Can we get some Green energy? WE need to make sure the Greens get a real candidate in there who can stand for new progressive (not old left) values.What other national party is demanding that Bush keep the CIA out of Venezuela? <a href="http://www.gp.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gp.org/</a><br />
</i></p>
<p>The Green Party self-destructed in 2004.  The GP needs to restructure their organizational structures.  The GP was infiltrated by &#8220;demo-green&#8221;.  Greens who did not want to challenge the Democratic Party and used their undemocratic &#8220;state-based&#8221; weighted vote tally to dilute the desires of the majority of Green Party members who wanted to mount a direct challenge.  You have people like Medea Benjamin thwart the aspiration of many Greens who wanted to support Ralph Nader but instated mounted a campaign to put David Cobb on the ballot.</p>
<p>The result was this &#8220;Anybody But Bush/Safe-State&#8221; mantra that was supported by so-called &#8220;left&#8221;; so-called &#8220;progressives&#8221; like Michael Albert, Howard Zinn, and Noam Chomsky.  This split the anti-war movement who placed their hopes on war-monger John Kerry and the result was a loss of ballot lines for the Green Party.</p>
<p>Another problem with the Green has been their lack of recruiting people of color into their ranks.  Once again because the &#8220;left&#8221; (whites) are weak on confronting ALL FORMS OF RACISM (ie Zionism) they cannot possible be serious in building solidarity among people of color therefore the Green Party will not ever be taken seriously because their cannot seriously expand their ranks.</p>
<p>Only when the left (whites) cease being cowardly on the seriousness of racism can they then be trusted and taken seriously to build solidarity.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10062</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see why RFK Jr. is a &quot;disappointment&quot;.  His father spent a large part of his career smearing leftist as a member of HUAC.  He was one of those liberals that was engaged in weakening the left into the sorry state that it is today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see why RFK Jr. is a &#8220;disappointment&#8221;.  His father spent a large part of his career smearing leftist as a member of HUAC.  He was one of those liberals that was engaged in weakening the left into the sorry state that it is today.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10061</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And US policies in Vietnam and continued gun boat diplomacy throught Southeast Asia and Africa and Latin America has all been about Zionism?

Zionism is a symptom; and Lieberman is a perpetrator, but get the problem definition right because when the problem is ONLY Zionism we forgive all other imperialistic policies by conflating them with a fractional ideology.&lt;/i&gt;

Zionism is not a &quot;symptom&quot;.  Zionism is a RACIST ideology that for one reason or another the left REFUSED to CONFRONT.  Clearly Zionism was not the pretext for Vietnam.  However Israel was involved in running armaments to Central America in order to assist the Reagan Administration circumvention of the U.S. Congress in the 1980&#039;s.  Israel is involved in Africa especially against the Sudan.  Finally the pretext for the war in Iraq was primarily to destroy an Israeli rival.  The fact that the left is unwilling to confront this form of racism speaks the they unworthiness and inability to build solidarity among the groups most affected by ALL FORMS of racism and imperialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And US policies in Vietnam and continued gun boat diplomacy throught Southeast Asia and Africa and Latin America has all been about Zionism?</p>
<p>Zionism is a symptom; and Lieberman is a perpetrator, but get the problem definition right because when the problem is ONLY Zionism we forgive all other imperialistic policies by conflating them with a fractional ideology.</i></p>
<p>Zionism is not a &#8220;symptom&#8221;.  Zionism is a RACIST ideology that for one reason or another the left REFUSED to CONFRONT.  Clearly Zionism was not the pretext for Vietnam.  However Israel was involved in running armaments to Central America in order to assist the Reagan Administration circumvention of the U.S. Congress in the 1980&#8217;s.  Israel is involved in Africa especially against the Sudan.  Finally the pretext for the war in Iraq was primarily to destroy an Israeli rival.  The fact that the left is unwilling to confront this form of racism speaks the they unworthiness and inability to build solidarity among the groups most affected by ALL FORMS of racism and imperialism.</p>
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		<title>By: dan elliott</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10060</link>
		<dc:creator>dan elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Marcelle? Well I for one find your rap interesting enough to hear more of it, &amp; I&#039;m also in CA although not sure if Sactomato really qualifies as a place:)  

Be not fooled by my impulsive scribblings in these &quot;comment&quot; boxes? I do have a clue, even though it may not always seem so. Frinstance, 
Cynthia McKinney finds me amusing enough to wonder if I&#039;d be into Delegating for her at the GP convention, Fifth Dist of California, Incumbent Doris Matsui. Who has succeeded her late hubby &amp; erstwhile Demo Whip Robt  T.  as Ms. Pelosi&#039;s first-chair  Rubber Stamp. 

The late Jimmy Smith&#039;s first words to me were &quot;You can play, man, but ain&#039;t you outa breath? Hehe;)&quot;

So if you&#039;d care to share your ideas in more depth, do send me an email, res.181@rcip.com; I promise to respond, at least a few words depending on how interested I might be. 

BTW, I&#039;m now a povertystruck senile citizen on the Oakland side of the Romance bit, so D-krepit that I&#039;&#039;m all bidness period. Still play a lil bebop etc now/then but otherwise I&#039;m trying to find a crack in the wall of Imperialism&#039;s indifference, a pt of leverage  from which to perform an Amazing Feat of Historical Aikido. 

With the help of the amazing Dr 63 Books/26 Languages Petras along with Jeff Quiet As Its Kept Blankfort. Plus the Christisons, Lenni Brenner and now this amazing too  Grant Smith. &quot;Foreign Agents&quot;: turns out The Isreal Lobby not only violates International Law, the outfit been violating US law bigtime for decades. Not only is it a morally criminal enterprise, it is also an Illegal Enterprise according to the statutes on the books. 
Unfortunately the US Justice Dept is one their Holy Owned  Subsiderarys, plus the House &amp; Senate Judish Cmte&#039;s is one they Clubhouses wear they git together t shoot the shit &amp; th occasional A-rabb.  But I disgress...

Well I just got home from Paul Larudee&#039;s talk about &quot;breaking the siege of Gaza&quot;. Strange event; I mean you gotta support the idea, but the cast of characters! All the way from Achmed Ben Bella&#039;s pal Elias Rashmawi to Karen Bernal from the Deaniac section of PDA. Blows my mind everytime I see her: purty as a pickter &amp; a diehard Tweedlecrat. Fergit weather she&#039;s pushing Obama or Edwards, it&#039;s one a them. 

So anything that increases Gazan capacity for &quot;sumud&quot;, steadfastness, keepen on keepen on, is all to the good. If it helps the Democratically Elected Gov&#039;t to survive, that&#039;s even better. The other aspect is that it puts these Liberal Zionists into the leadership of the Palestine Solidarity movement. 

But on every chair as people were coming in, they found a copy of the flier for the Dec 16 protest vs the annual Sactomato Aipacker Luncheon, verbatim as I laid it out, down to the color (salmon). So guess I shdn&#039;t look a gift horse in the mouth. Said Priam:)

In a nutshell, (no cracks) the name of the disease is Faith in the Myth of a Democratic Party. This isn&#039;t &quot;democracy&quot;, it&#039;s Manipulation. 

Needed: a vehickle for engagement in the Electoral Arena, that is totally &amp; demonstrably not controlled by the ZPC or any other sector of the Ruling Class. Yes, we can &quot;United Front&quot; with all kinds of weird folks, Generals, oil barons, arms mfgrs (don&#039;t lisp;) but first we gotta have a organized organization of a lot of people who see what the Game is. To  have a basis to Coalition w/Outside Forces, we gotta be somewhat organized &amp; effective ourselves. Starting w/ Yrs Truly, so lemme off here &amp; start to TC some OB on the home front. 

EZ,
de

PS: oh btw, the reason I say Electoral Arena: it&#039;s about Power. Ability to direct the Security Forces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Marcelle? Well I for one find your rap interesting enough to hear more of it, &amp; I&#8217;m also in CA although not sure if Sactomato really qualifies as a place:)  </p>
<p>Be not fooled by my impulsive scribblings in these &#8220;comment&#8221; boxes? I do have a clue, even though it may not always seem so. Frinstance,<br />
Cynthia McKinney finds me amusing enough to wonder if I&#8217;d be into Delegating for her at the GP convention, Fifth Dist of California, Incumbent Doris Matsui. Who has succeeded her late hubby &amp; erstwhile Demo Whip Robt  T.  as Ms. Pelosi&#8217;s first-chair  Rubber Stamp. </p>
<p>The late Jimmy Smith&#8217;s first words to me were &#8220;You can play, man, but ain&#8217;t you outa breath? Hehe;)&#8221;</p>
<p>So if you&#8217;d care to share your ideas in more depth, do send me an email, <a href="mailto:&#x72;&#x65;&#x73;&#x2e;&#x31;&#x38;&#x31;&#x40;&#x72;&#x63;&#x69;&#x70;&#x2e;&#x63;om">&#x72;&#x65;&#x73;&#x2e;&#x31;&#x38;&#x31;&#x40;&#x72;&#x63;&#x69;&#x70;&#x2e;&#x63;om</a>; I promise to respond, at least a few words depending on how interested I might be. </p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;m now a povertystruck senile citizen on the Oakland side of the Romance bit, so D-krepit that I&#8221;m all bidness period. Still play a lil bebop etc now/then but otherwise I&#8217;m trying to find a crack in the wall of Imperialism&#8217;s indifference, a pt of leverage  from which to perform an Amazing Feat of Historical Aikido. </p>
<p>With the help of the amazing Dr 63 Books/26 Languages Petras along with Jeff Quiet As Its Kept Blankfort. Plus the Christisons, Lenni Brenner and now this amazing too  Grant Smith. &#8220;Foreign Agents&#8221;: turns out The Isreal Lobby not only violates International Law, the outfit been violating US law bigtime for decades. Not only is it a morally criminal enterprise, it is also an Illegal Enterprise according to the statutes on the books.<br />
Unfortunately the US Justice Dept is one their Holy Owned  Subsiderarys, plus the House &amp; Senate Judish Cmte&#8217;s is one they Clubhouses wear they git together t shoot the shit &amp; th occasional A-rabb.  But I disgress&#8230;</p>
<p>Well I just got home from Paul Larudee&#8217;s talk about &#8220;breaking the siege of Gaza&#8221;. Strange event; I mean you gotta support the idea, but the cast of characters! All the way from Achmed Ben Bella&#8217;s pal Elias Rashmawi to Karen Bernal from the Deaniac section of PDA. Blows my mind everytime I see her: purty as a pickter &amp; a diehard Tweedlecrat. Fergit weather she&#8217;s pushing Obama or Edwards, it&#8217;s one a them. </p>
<p>So anything that increases Gazan capacity for &#8220;sumud&#8221;, steadfastness, keepen on keepen on, is all to the good. If it helps the Democratically Elected Gov&#8217;t to survive, that&#8217;s even better. The other aspect is that it puts these Liberal Zionists into the leadership of the Palestine Solidarity movement. </p>
<p>But on every chair as people were coming in, they found a copy of the flier for the Dec 16 protest vs the annual Sactomato Aipacker Luncheon, verbatim as I laid it out, down to the color (salmon). So guess I shdn&#8217;t look a gift horse in the mouth. Said Priam:)</p>
<p>In a nutshell, (no cracks) the name of the disease is Faith in the Myth of a Democratic Party. This isn&#8217;t &#8220;democracy&#8221;, it&#8217;s Manipulation. </p>
<p>Needed: a vehickle for engagement in the Electoral Arena, that is totally &amp; demonstrably not controlled by the ZPC or any other sector of the Ruling Class. Yes, we can &#8220;United Front&#8221; with all kinds of weird folks, Generals, oil barons, arms mfgrs (don&#8217;t lisp;) but first we gotta have a organized organization of a lot of people who see what the Game is. To  have a basis to Coalition w/Outside Forces, we gotta be somewhat organized &amp; effective ourselves. Starting w/ Yrs Truly, so lemme off here &amp; start to TC some OB on the home front. </p>
<p>EZ,<br />
de</p>
<p>PS: oh btw, the reason I say Electoral Arena: it&#8217;s about Power. Ability to direct the Security Forces.</p>
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		<title>By: Myles Hoenig</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10057</link>
		<dc:creator>Myles Hoenig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making endorsements isn&#039;t what it used to be.
I don&#039;t see why people are shocked at RFK&#039;s endorsement of Clinton.  Yes, he&#039;s been progressive in the past and has said some correct things about the state of the 2-party system, but considering that he&#039;s always been a Democrat, how more pure of an example of Democratic Party worthlessness/spinelessness/corporatism than Ms. Clinton?  A Kennedy-Clinton match makes a lot of sense. Clinton represents the Democrat Party in so many unhealthy ways.  If you&#039;re going to sell out your ideals, then she&#039;s the one who one should be backing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making endorsements isn&#8217;t what it used to be.<br />
I don&#8217;t see why people are shocked at RFK&#8217;s endorsement of Clinton.  Yes, he&#8217;s been progressive in the past and has said some correct things about the state of the 2-party system, but considering that he&#8217;s always been a Democrat, how more pure of an example of Democratic Party worthlessness/spinelessness/corporatism than Ms. Clinton?  A Kennedy-Clinton match makes a lot of sense. Clinton represents the Democrat Party in so many unhealthy ways.  If you&#8217;re going to sell out your ideals, then she&#8217;s the one who one should be backing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mario</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10054</link>
		<dc:creator>Mario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was surprised when i heard about that commitment. I said to myself : 
He probably said these words when he felt dizzy, when something like a throath cutter got on his neck.  
It was a sharp one but, at this  moment, he understood that cutter was different of the others in the past. It had a chilling particuliarity.
You could smell a joint fragrance of Clinton and Cheney, with a Kissinger back taste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was surprised when i heard about that commitment. I said to myself :<br />
He probably said these words when he felt dizzy, when something like a throath cutter got on his neck.<br />
It was a sharp one but, at this  moment, he understood that cutter was different of the others in the past. It had a chilling particuliarity.<br />
You could smell a joint fragrance of Clinton and Cheney, with a Kissinger back taste.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance Madrid</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10046</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kennedy, Clinton, Bush....so very boring....followed by stark terror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kennedy, Clinton, Bush&#8230;.so very boring&#8230;.followed by stark terror.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10038</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First...don&#039;t sell my email...Second...why is anyone shocked that kennedy has spoken on behalf of clinton? Think about this......for anyone to be shocked about this is just as scary as any other aspect of our classist, backward, barbaric  society?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First&#8230;don&#8217;t sell my email&#8230;Second&#8230;why is anyone shocked that kennedy has spoken on behalf of clinton? Think about this&#8230;&#8230;for anyone to be shocked about this is just as scary as any other aspect of our classist, backward, barbaric  society?</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10036</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And US policies in Vietnam and continued gun boat diplomacy throught Southeast Asia and Africa and Latin America has all been about Zionism?

Zionism is a symptom; and Lieberman is a perpetrator, but get the problem definition right because when the problem is ONLY Zionism we forgive all other imperialistic policies by conflating them with a fractional ideology.

I agree with Frank that racism underscores all forms of imperialism. It enables the imperialist perpetrators to appease hate and massive atrocities in the name of &quot;superiority&quot;.  It is at the core of all imperialism and particularly today&#039;s US/Israel/Sarkozy.

RFK, Jr. is only a disappointment for those who still think the Democratic party is salvagable (which is a big waste of energy lost in themyth of something that really never was).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And US policies in Vietnam and continued gun boat diplomacy throught Southeast Asia and Africa and Latin America has all been about Zionism?</p>
<p>Zionism is a symptom; and Lieberman is a perpetrator, but get the problem definition right because when the problem is ONLY Zionism we forgive all other imperialistic policies by conflating them with a fractional ideology.</p>
<p>I agree with Frank that racism underscores all forms of imperialism. It enables the imperialist perpetrators to appease hate and massive atrocities in the name of &#8220;superiority&#8221;.  It is at the core of all imperialism and particularly today&#8217;s US/Israel/Sarkozy.</p>
<p>RFK, Jr. is only a disappointment for those who still think the Democratic party is salvagable (which is a big waste of energy lost in themyth of something that really never was).</p>
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		<title>By: COMarc</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10032</link>
		<dc:creator>COMarc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear Gomer Pyle&#039;s voice in my head saying &quot;Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!&quot;

Typical Dem.  Talks nice.  But when push-comes-to-shove, will support an awful pro-war, pro-corporate candidate because that candidate is the nominee of the pro-war, pro-corporate candidate.

My local rep just did the same thing.  DeGette(CO-1) is one of those Dems that tries to appeal to progressives by talking sometimes.  In her case by occasionally talking like she opposes the Iraq war.   But never really DOES anything about it.  All talk, no action ... then you see the true colors show through when she supports Hillary.  Barf!

The bottom line is that they are Dems.  They&#039;ve sworn allegiance to a pro-war party that supports a government of the corporation, by the corporation and for the corporation in exchange from lots of money from, surprise, corporations.  That&#039;s what the (D) after the name tells you.  And the (D) after the name means that this sworn allegiance is more important to them than any of the BS that comes out of their mouths that sounds different from the Democratic party line.  Its BS because when push-come-to-shove, they will support the party line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear Gomer Pyle&#8217;s voice in my head saying &#8220;Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!&#8221;</p>
<p>Typical Dem.  Talks nice.  But when push-comes-to-shove, will support an awful pro-war, pro-corporate candidate because that candidate is the nominee of the pro-war, pro-corporate candidate.</p>
<p>My local rep just did the same thing.  DeGette(CO-1) is one of those Dems that tries to appeal to progressives by talking sometimes.  In her case by occasionally talking like she opposes the Iraq war.   But never really DOES anything about it.  All talk, no action &#8230; then you see the true colors show through when she supports Hillary.  Barf!</p>
<p>The bottom line is that they are Dems.  They&#8217;ve sworn allegiance to a pro-war party that supports a government of the corporation, by the corporation and for the corporation in exchange from lots of money from, surprise, corporations.  That&#8217;s what the (D) after the name tells you.  And the (D) after the name means that this sworn allegiance is more important to them than any of the BS that comes out of their mouths that sounds different from the Democratic party line.  Its BS because when push-come-to-shove, they will support the party line.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcelle Cendrars</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10031</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcelle Cendrars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To make distinctions between any of the major Dem candidates is a huge mistake. The differences are not worth noting, and the time and energy it takes to underscore the differences feeds into their agenda, keeping us busy, distracted with petty nonsense. Anyone shocked at Kennedy&#039;s &quot;turn&quot; needs to do...a self-review. CEMMCS, above, takes a step in a healthy direction by encouraging...support of one&#039;s conscience. Nevertheless, since the outcome --regardless of who wins-- is highly unlikely to change what we all are most concerned with...I recommend that heartbeats be devoted elsewhere. Most of them, that is. Again, for those who are living in California, I urge readers to arrange a meeting with me.  I have a plan...which I have been trying to share...which is slated to radically transform the parameters imposed on us at the voting booth. Loving best in solidarity, Marcelle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To make distinctions between any of the major Dem candidates is a huge mistake. The differences are not worth noting, and the time and energy it takes to underscore the differences feeds into their agenda, keeping us busy, distracted with petty nonsense. Anyone shocked at Kennedy&#8217;s &#8220;turn&#8221; needs to do&#8230;a self-review. CEMMCS, above, takes a step in a healthy direction by encouraging&#8230;support of one&#8217;s conscience. Nevertheless, since the outcome &#8211;regardless of who wins&#8211; is highly unlikely to change what we all are most concerned with&#8230;I recommend that heartbeats be devoted elsewhere. Most of them, that is. Again, for those who are living in California, I urge readers to arrange a meeting with me.  I have a plan&#8230;which I have been trying to share&#8230;which is slated to radically transform the parameters imposed on us at the voting booth. Loving best in solidarity, Marcelle</p>
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		<title>By: cemmcs</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10027</link>
		<dc:creator>cemmcs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Astonishing, isn&#039;t it?

I&#039;ll probably vote Kucinich in the primary and when he loses, I&#039;ll vote for a third party candidate in the general election.

I just saw a poll which puts Bush&#039;s approval rating at 36%. How could it be that high? I feel very discouraged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astonishing, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably vote Kucinich in the primary and when he loses, I&#8217;ll vote for a third party candidate in the general election.</p>
<p>I just saw a poll which puts Bush&#8217;s approval rating at 36%. How could it be that high? I feel very discouraged.</p>
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		<title>By: Shamrock</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-disappoints/#comment-10026</link>
		<dc:creator>Shamrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is truly sad about Robert Kennedy&#039;s endorsement of Hilary is that it plays into the worst of all political strategies. It is obvious that the Republicans are attacking Hilary with such vigor because they want her to be the Democratic candidate, and for good reason. First, she is the most hated candidate by the Republican voter base and therefore the most vulnerable to an alliance of voters more opposed to her election than in support of any Republican candidate.  Secondly, her positions are the closest to that of the Republican leaders and her corporate donors are comfortable that she is sufficiently compromised and can be counted on to continue the status quo. For them, it is a win/win situation.

Kennedy&#039;s betrayal should not surprise us too much. The Democratic Party is being infected by the same disease as the Republicans. Corporate cash is the cancer that is destroying the Party from the inside and few can resist its temptation, as evidenced by Kennedy’s feebleness. He is obviously aware that Clinton is the worst of the Democratic offerings, but he has ceded his oft vocalized principles for some yet unknown deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is truly sad about Robert Kennedy&#8217;s endorsement of Hilary is that it plays into the worst of all political strategies. It is obvious that the Republicans are attacking Hilary with such vigor because they want her to be the Democratic candidate, and for good reason. First, she is the most hated candidate by the Republican voter base and therefore the most vulnerable to an alliance of voters more opposed to her election than in support of any Republican candidate.  Secondly, her positions are the closest to that of the Republican leaders and her corporate donors are comfortable that she is sufficiently compromised and can be counted on to continue the status quo. For them, it is a win/win situation.</p>
<p>Kennedy&#8217;s betrayal should not surprise us too much. The Democratic Party is being infected by the same disease as the Republicans. Corporate cash is the cancer that is destroying the Party from the inside and few can resist its temptation, as evidenced by Kennedy’s feebleness. He is obviously aware that Clinton is the worst of the Democratic offerings, but he has ceded his oft vocalized principles for some yet unknown deal.</p>
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