Comments on: Operating Beyond the Law: Israeli Agents in the US http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Cheating Wife http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-41330 Cheating Wife Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:32:47 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-41330 This is right here, in the present, not the future. This is right here, in the present, not the future.

]]> By: Angie Tibbs http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-12710 Angie Tibbs Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:16:51 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-12710 Jamie, in obvious glee, makes the pathetically stupid assertion that "looks like Angie ran away". (Wishful thinking, what?) Then, with a dismissive verbal shrug, he adds, "Oh well. See ya Angie! Give my regards to Bin Laden". (Look within Israel, Jamie, and you will find a multitude of individuals who make bin Laden look like a preschooler. Never have so many war criminals congregated in one place!) This nonsense has added nothing to the discussion with respect to Mr. Kim Petersen's excellent article, but that's the purpose of it, isn't it, Jamie? Keep readers focused on anything except the issue at hand. Of course, you're familiar with this sort of thing, aren't you? You and the countless others who clutter up open forums with this sort of trash on a daily basis. It's what you do. I will state this once and for all time. I do not run away. From the likes of you, Jamie, and your disinformation and propaganda, nor any other individual who defends Israeli racism, facism, terrorism, war crimes, masssacres. Make a note of that comment, Jamie, and stick it close to your computer. It will prevent you from making an even bigger fool of yourself in the future. I have been away from my computer for several weeks as a result of eye surgery followed by unexpected complications. It has been a lengthy process, and a trying one, but blessedly I shall soon be capable of resuming my fight against evil. And I would suggest, Jamie, that you study Israeli massacres a lot closer because I am not going to allow you to minimize Israeli crimes, revise them, nor project the blame on to the Palestinian and Lebanese victims. Jamie, in obvious glee, makes the pathetically stupid assertion that “looks like Angie ran away”. (Wishful thinking, what?)

Then, with a dismissive verbal shrug, he adds, “Oh well. See ya Angie! Give my regards to Bin Laden”. (Look within Israel, Jamie, and you will find a multitude of individuals who make bin Laden look like a preschooler. Never have so many war criminals congregated in one place!)

This nonsense has added nothing to the discussion with respect to Mr. Kim Petersen’s excellent article, but that’s the purpose of it, isn’t it, Jamie? Keep readers focused on anything except the issue at hand. Of course, you’re familiar with this sort of thing, aren’t you? You and the countless others who clutter up open forums with this sort of trash on a daily basis. It’s what you do.

I will state this once and for all time. I do not run away. From the likes of you, Jamie, and your
disinformation and propaganda, nor any other individual who defends Israeli racism, facism, terrorism, war crimes, masssacres. Make a note of that comment, Jamie, and stick it close to your computer. It will prevent you from making an even bigger fool of yourself in the future.

I have been away from my computer for several weeks as a result of eye surgery followed by unexpected complications. It has been a lengthy process, and a trying one, but blessedly I shall soon be capable of resuming my fight against evil.

And I would suggest, Jamie, that you study Israeli massacres a lot closer because I am not going to allow you to minimize Israeli crimes, revise them, nor project the blame on to the Palestinian and Lebanese victims.

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11486 jaime Sun, 23 Dec 2007 06:56:35 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11486 OK I googled Sister Dianna Ortiz. She's a victim of Torture. Maybe the CIA was behind the goons involved. Where's your joint US-German-Israeli operation, Mike? Why not just admit that it adds nothing useful to this thread? OK I googled Sister Dianna Ortiz. She’s a victim of Torture. Maybe the CIA was behind the goons involved.

Where’s your joint US-German-Israeli operation, Mike?

Why not just admit that it adds nothing useful to this thread?

]]> By: Mike McNiven http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11482 Mike McNiven Sun, 23 Dec 2007 04:54:53 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11482 Sister Dianna Ortiz (google.com) Sister Dianna Ortiz (google.com)

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11331 jaime Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:48:12 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11331 sorry that should have read: "Geez there's a lot of crap like this on this board." sorry that should have read:
“Geez there’s a lot of crap like this on this board.”

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11330 jaime Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:47:24 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11330 So I guess that means Mike can't or won't substantiate his so-called joint "US-German-Israeli operation." Geez there's a crap like this on this board. So I guess that means Mike can’t or won’t substantiate his so-called joint “US-German-Israeli operation.”

Geez there’s a crap like this on this board.

]]> By: Mike McNiven http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11317 Mike McNiven Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:43:31 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11317 For those who have forgotten, The massacres took place in the 80's and 90's in Guatemala! (including the Clinton years!) Sister Dianna Ortiz, a world-known victim of those operations, is just one example! The German role is very important because without it Mossad cannot do its work! Exposing this criminal relationship is in the best interest of all the Jews who support "peace with social justice"! The German support for the Islamic fundamentalists, also, is a danger for all those who believe in "peace with social justice"! For those who have forgotten,

The massacres took place in the 80′s and 90′s in Guatemala! (including the Clinton years!)

Sister Dianna Ortiz, a world-known victim of those operations, is just one example!

The German role is very important because without it Mossad cannot do its work! Exposing this criminal relationship is in the best interest of all the Jews who support “peace with social justice”! The German support for the Islamic fundamentalists, also, is a danger for all those who believe in “peace with social justice”!

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11288 jaime Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:35:36 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11288 "...Countless number of peasants and their supporters got massacred in a joint US-German-Israeli operation..." You wouldn't happen to have something more specific for that statement, would you Mike? How about some dates, documentation etc. ? Otherwise, I have to suggest that what you posted was just BS. “…Countless number of peasants and their supporters got massacred in a joint US-German-Israeli operation…”

You wouldn’t happen to have something more specific for that statement, would you Mike? How about some dates, documentation etc. ?

Otherwise, I have to suggest that what you posted was just BS.

]]> By: Mike McNiven http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11262 Mike McNiven Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:37:34 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11262 Thank you Mr.Peterson! Also, it would be very helpful if someone investigates the role of the criminal German intelligence services in facilitating the work of Mossad projects/agents . The Guatemala tragedy is a good point to start. Countless number of peasants and their supporters got massacred in a joint US-German-Israeli operation! Thank you Mr.Peterson!

Also, it would be very helpful if someone investigates the role of the criminal German intelligence services in facilitating the work of Mossad projects/agents . The Guatemala tragedy is a good point to start. Countless number of peasants and their supporters got massacred in a joint US-German-Israeli operation!

]]> By: hp http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11191 hp Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:30:31 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11191 Answer; because they're Israelis. Answer; because they’re Israelis.

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11100 jaime Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:08:41 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11100 "The Israelis also gave info to the Chinese, but I don’t know what that was." "the female copy technician did not come to the door because she was getting laid." Fascinating! Just...how did you know that the Israelis gave info to the Chinese if you didn't know what it was? “The Israelis also gave info to the Chinese, but I don’t know what that was.”

“the female copy technician did not come to the door because she was getting laid.”

Fascinating! Just…how did you know that the Israelis gave info to the Chinese if you didn’t know what it was?

]]> By: Luftigus http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11082 Luftigus Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:49:18 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11082 Pollard is a big hero in Israel, and the Israeli govt forever is trying to get him released. Pollard's supporters argue that he was only taking info that the Israelis should have been given anywy. This overlooks the fact that Pollard obtained anti-sub warfare info that the Israelis traded to the Soviets. The Israelis also gave info to the Chinese, but I don't know what that was. Israeli public assumes Pollard was trying to help Israel. There was some of that, but his major motivation was financial, and he planned to spread out his espionage activities like some evil genius in the 007 movies. Pollard and his wife were addicted to expenive restaurants. Pollard blimped out. He is much thinner now. Mrs. Pollard was imprisoned for a time. She has divorced her former partner in espionage. Israelis set up a hidden office for copying the material Pollard stole. One day Pollard, terrified because the door would not open, thought the place had been raided by FBI. It turned out that the female copy technician did not come to the door because she was getting laid. So Jaime, now you know. Pollard is a big hero in Israel, and the Israeli govt forever is trying to get him released. Pollard’s supporters argue that he was only taking info that the Israelis should have been given anywy. This overlooks the fact that Pollard obtained anti-sub warfare info that the Israelis traded to the Soviets. The Israelis also gave info to the Chinese, but I don’t know what that was.

Israeli public assumes Pollard was trying to help Israel. There was some of that, but his major motivation was financial, and he planned to spread out his espionage activities like some evil genius in the 007 movies.

Pollard and his wife were addicted to expenive restaurants. Pollard blimped out. He is much thinner now. Mrs. Pollard was imprisoned for a time. She has divorced her former partner in espionage.

Israelis set up a hidden office for copying the material Pollard stole. One day Pollard, terrified because the door would not open, thought the place had been raided by FBI. It turned out that the female copy technician did not come to the door because she was getting laid.

So Jaime, now you know.

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11035 jaime Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:37:47 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11035 News to me. Who's Jonathon Pollard? News to me. Who’s Jonathon Pollard?

]]> By: Luftigus http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11034 Luftigus Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:10:28 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11034 According to former Mossad agent Viktor Ostrovsky, AIPAC routinely sends the the Israeli Embassy names of American Jews who want to do something for Israel. That is how Jonathan Pollard's name came to the attention of the Mossad. In other words, AIPAC is a recrutment center for Israeli espionage. As matters turned out, Mossad decided Pollard was too weird to be in their employ, and so he was handed to a different intelligence agency, LAKAM. The latter, no doubt assisted by moles in the U.S. Government, went wild, demanding Pollard collect vast quantities of secret information on many subjects. That is how Pollard got caught. He was left with no time to do his own work, and so his non-work related activities attracted the scrutiny nof his boss, who figured out that Pollard was a spy. As soon as Pollarad came under suspicion, his LAKAM handlers fled the country, taking with them the Israeli passport that Pollard had expected to be his salvation. Pollard and his wife sought refugte in the Israeli Embassy, which kicked them out--into the waiting arms of the astonished FBI. No honor among thieves. What say you, Jaime? According to former Mossad agent Viktor Ostrovsky, AIPAC routinely sends the the Israeli Embassy names of American Jews who want to do something for Israel. That is how Jonathan Pollard’s name came to the attention of the Mossad. In other words, AIPAC is a recrutment center for Israeli espionage.

As matters turned out, Mossad decided Pollard was too weird to be in their employ, and so he was handed to a different intelligence agency, LAKAM. The latter, no doubt assisted by moles in the U.S. Government, went wild, demanding Pollard collect vast quantities of secret information on many subjects. That is how Pollard got caught. He was left with no time to do his own work, and so his non-work related activities attracted the scrutiny nof his boss, who figured out that Pollard was a spy.

As soon as Pollarad came under suspicion, his LAKAM handlers fled the country, taking with them the Israeli passport that Pollard had expected to be his salvation. Pollard and his wife sought refugte in the Israeli Embassy, which kicked them out–into the waiting arms of the astonished FBI.

No honor among thieves.

What say you, Jaime?

]]> By: hp http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11029 hp Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:35:10 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11029 I think you're wrong Jaime. Derived when? The Sindhu river is in the Vedas but the word Hindu is not. Get it? I think you’re wrong Jaime. Derived when?
The Sindhu river is in the Vedas but the word Hindu is not.
Get it?

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11012 jaime Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:23:00 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-11012 1) Deadbeat...the Pals aren't being "ethnically cleansed" by the Israelis. Fact is they kill more of each other than the Israelis do. Plus, their population grows every year. So call it something else. 2) "Did the word “Jew” even exist in the days of Jesus?" Uh yeah. The word is derived from JUDAH. What's your point, hp? 1) Deadbeat…the Pals aren’t being “ethnically cleansed” by the Israelis. Fact is they kill more of each other than the Israelis do. Plus, their population grows every year. So call it something else.

2) “Did the word “Jew” even exist in the days of Jesus?”
Uh yeah. The word is derived from JUDAH. What’s your point, hp?

]]> By: gerald spezio http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-10992 gerald spezio Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:34:15 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-10992 A Jewish humanist, Anna Baltzer, speaks eloquently about the Zionist land grab in the occupied lands of Palestine. Anna's video shows some Israelis trying to help the Palestinians stay on their land. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtRLtm507tQ A Jewish humanist, Anna Baltzer, speaks eloquently about the Zionist land grab in the occupied lands of Palestine.

Anna’s video shows some Israelis trying to help the Palestinians stay on their land.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtRLtm507tQ

]]> By: hp http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-10912 hp Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:11:18 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-10912 Depends on what your definition of "Jew" is. Did the word "Jew" even exist in the days of Jesus? Depends on what your definition of “Jew” is.
Did the word “Jew” even exist in the days of Jesus?

]]> By: Deadbeat http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-10898 Deadbeat Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:55:16 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-10898 Jews are indigenous to the Middle East but so are the Palestinian Arabs. The plan of Zionist is ethnic cleansing of the Arabs who are indigenous to Palestine. This notion that Jews should be permitted to ethnically cleanse Palestine is racist to its core and unjust. Jamie clearly defends this utterly racist and vile agenda. Jews are indigenous to the Middle East but so are the Palestinian Arabs. The plan of Zionist is ethnic cleansing of the Arabs who are indigenous to Palestine. This notion that Jews should be permitted to ethnically cleanse Palestine is racist to its core and unjust. Jamie clearly defends this utterly racist and vile agenda.

]]> By: jaime http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-10885 jaime Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:33:21 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/operating-beyond-the-law-israeli-agents-in-the-us/#comment-10885 Kim's review IS in dispute even though many of us haven't read the book. His opening premise , indeed his opening sentence beginning with "...When a state arises from the dispossession of an Indigenous people.." is completely and historically inaccurate. Therefore at this point I wouldn't give either the book or his review serious consideration. Jews ARE indigenous to the Middle East. Jesus was Jewish, not Chinese, not Fijian, not Icelandic, Jewish. Kim’s review IS in dispute even though many of us haven’t read the book.

His opening premise , indeed his opening sentence beginning with

“…When a state arises from the dispossession of an Indigenous people..”

is completely and historically inaccurate. Therefore at this point I wouldn’t give either the book or his review serious consideration.

Jews ARE indigenous to the Middle East. Jesus was Jewish, not Chinese, not Fijian, not Icelandic, Jewish.

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