Defining Israeli Zionist Racism: Part 1

We must do everything to ensure they (the Palestinian refugees) never do return.
– David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948.1

Let us not today fling accusations at the murderers. Who are we that we should argue against their hatred? For eight years now they sit in their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their very eyes, we turn into our homestead the land and the villages in which they and their forefathers have lived.
– Moshe Dyan (Israeli Defense Minister during the Israeli-Arab war, 1967), 1953.2

No state has the right to exist as a racist state.
– Palestinian activist and author, Omar Barghouti.3

Responding to issues raised by the article “Defining Racism,”4 Barbara Kay, a columnist with the Canadian newspaper National Post,5 employed a standard Zionist discourse devoid of elementary principles, historical validity, or logical thematic constructs. Kay’s defense of the Zionist dispossession of Palestinians coupled with heinous crimes against humanity is patently manipulative since she flagrantly attempts at confounding the fundamental subject that defines Israeli Zionist racism in its factual historical context and sequence of events. Writes Kay:

They [Palestinians] were transferred for two reasons: i) because their own leaders told them to leave so they would not be in the path of war, which the Arab countries initiated in 1948 and fully expected to win, after which the people would return and take back all the land and homes of the Jews; and ii) because you cannot have hostile people in your own state if they will not agree to live as citizens. Transfers of populations go on all the time. If the Arabs had accepted the two-state solution proposed by the UN partition plan of 1947, they would have been living in their own state for 60 years in peace with Israel. Why do you blame Israel for Arab intransigence and stupidity?

You mention the expulsion of the European Jews. i notice you fail to mention the expulsion of the Jews in Arab lands, of which there were 600,000, the exact same number as the Palestinians. Except they were not left to rot by their brethren as the Arab refugees were; they were absorbed by Israel, just as the Arab refugees should have been absorbed by Jordan, since ethnically they are Jordanians. So let me ask you: Was it wrong for the Arabs to expel Jews from their lands? And since I now assume you will say yes, why don’t we agree to call it a draw. The Arabs are now happily free of Jews, and Israel – while happily living with their 1 million Arab citizens – is also happily free of those Palestinians who wish them dead.

We present a general dissection of Israeli Zionist racism with Kay being only the instigative trigger behind this series. Accordingly, Kay is just a minute personification of Zionism that we can use as a model for our dissection. Therefore, to deconstruct Kay’s (and by extension all Zionist analysts) statements — hence, tearing down her manipulative ideological edifice — we have to address first the eminent question whether racism, pointedly, Israeli Zionist racism, is materially applicable to the Palestinian issue. To this end, we will divide this series in two sections: 1) analysis of Israeli Zionist racism, and 2) the deconstruction of Kay’s statement.

Section 1: Analysis of Israeli Zionist racism

Before demonstrating the material aspects and institutionalized policies of Israeli racism in Palestine (and actions and policies in the Arab world), we must define said racism in its practical and ideological terms. However, to do just that, we still have to define first the term, “racism” itself. As a preliminary approach, we decided to rely on the definition given by the United Nations Organization. This is in spite of the fact that 1) western colonialist-imperialist powers created this organization to defend — exclusively — their strategic and geo-economic interests, an 2) it was this same organization that illegally sanctioned the partition of Palestine between the indigenous Palestinians and Jewish European invaders, thus leading to the installation of the racist state of Israel.

Definition

Sub-article # 1 of Article 1 of the United Nations’ International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination6 gives the following definition to racism:

In this Convention, the term “racial discrimination” shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, color, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.

Do all elements that the United Nations said constitute the practical manifestation of racism apply to the situation of Palestinians since the immigration of Europeans of Jewish faith to the Arabic Syrian region of Palestine in the early 20th century? Does the subsequent forcible installation of the Zionist entity in Palestine where diverse ethnic groups from disparate parts of world having no social, anthropological, or cultural relations amongst them except nominal adherence to Judaism, settled through violence, murder, intimidation, land expropriation, and then collectively joined in practice of ritualistic discrimination against the indigenous populations constitute, per se, racism?

To answer these questions methodically and give the reader the widest view possible on this subject, we relied on extensive anthological extracts dealing with Israeli Zionist racism from varied perspectives. We anticipate that Zionists and their sycophants and acolytes would want to debate this series or distort its basic conclusions. For this purpose, we want emphasize that we are not merchants of accommodating principals and have no inclination to debate insincere arguments such as that of Israeli racism vis-à-vis the Palestinians based on terms dictated by Zionists whereby cheap preemptive accusations, such as labeling those who disagree with Zionism and the über-colonialistic policies of Israel as “anti-Semites,” is a norm.

We took the position for not debating Zionists on their own terms primarily because, before dubbing anyone with this trite label, one needs to define what Semitism is in the first place, who invented the term, and who decided to use it to intimidate and silence the opponents of Zionism. In addition, if Zionists insist to make anti-Zionism and anti-“Semitism” (or more accurately and specifically, “anti-Jewish”) interchangeable or equivalent, then that would not be our problem to address, discuss, or resolve.

Facts about Israeli Zionist Racism

A) A historical view by Basel Ghattas

Writing for the Jerusalem Fund, Basel Ghattas, General Director of the Galilee Society (Haifa, Israel), gives the following account on the situation of the Palestinians (Christians and Muslims) who remained in the newly formed exclusivist Jewish state:

History and Demographics

The 156,000 Palestinians that remained in the newly established Jewish state of Israel in 1948 have grown into more than one million. Their annual birth rate exceeded five percent in the 1950s and 1960s, and decreased to around three percent in recent years.

More than 20 percent of these one million people are displaced from their towns and villages as internal refugees. Palestinians in Israel now live in three main geographical areas: the Galilee, or the northern district of Israel where they comprise half of the population; the central triangle of Israel; and in the Negev in the south. The majority of Palestinians in Israel (60 percent) live in 115 villages. An additional 20 percent live in 7 towns, 10 percent live in 6 mixed Jewish-Palestinian cities, and the rest live in over 40 “unrecognized” villages that are considered illegal by the government.

Statistics of Discrimination

Until 1966, the Palestinian citizens of Israel lived under military administration. Still today, despite supposedly being equal citizens of a democratic state, the Palestinian minority continues to be subjected to systematic institutional and legal discrimination, and is completely marginalized by the Israeli government. Israeli prime ministers from left and right have recently acknowledged this discrimination, yet little has been done to bridge the wide gap that has been created between Jews and Palestinians.

When one looks at the economic conditions of Palestinians in Israel, this gap becomes apparent. The Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics has classified all communities in Israel into 10 clusters according to their socio-economic status. All 10 communities in the lowest cluster are Palestinian. Out of 26 communities in the second lowest cluster, 23 are Palestinian. None of the Palestinian communities ranked higher than the five lowest classifications. Moreover, almost 50 percent of the children living below the poverty line in Israel are Palestinian, despite the fact that Palestinians do not comprise more than 20 percent of Israel’s entire population.

Palestinians in Israel also receive less education than their Jewish counterparts. Sixty percent of the Palestinian labor force have a maximum of nine years of education. Only five percent of Palestinians have college degrees or higher, compared to 17 percent of Jews in Israel.

In addition, Palestinians encounter problems of overcrowding. They own less than three percent of Israel’s land, and less than 50 percent of that land is under their local authority’s jurisdiction. The severe lack of appropriate, updated urban plans for their neighborhoods has created a serious housing problem. This shortage has resulted in a high population density, as well as more than 10,000 illegal houses threatened to be demolished under court order.

According to a report submitted to the Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination by Adalah, The Legal Center for Arab Minority Rights in Israel, there are 17 Israeli laws that are discriminatory against Palestinians. These laws create a reality in which Palestinian citizens are deprived of basic educational, religious, social, and economic rights.7

B) A Statement by the United Nations

Recently, the United Nations, an organization that reflects the hypocritical establishment of its founders and signatories, condemned Israeli discrimination against the Palestinians.8 Before quoting on the nature of this discrimination, we have to point out to four relevant facts:

One: As for “suicide-bombing,” the U.N., as one may expect, does not explain why this type of attack (self-sacrificing against the Israeli occupiers of Palestine) is happening in the first place? An explanation, however, is readily available: 1) resistance against an occupation that has been lasting since 1967, and 2) frustration and despair against Israeli Zionist discrimination and racism.

Two: if the United Nations is concerned about anti-Palestinian discrimination, why has it never issued a resolution punishing Israel for its institutionalized racist policies and otherwise taken actions to stop the racism?

The use of the word “discrimination,” however, is a U.N. political ruse meant to appease Israel and mitigate the reality that pervades the Israeli relations with the Palestinians, which is racism. In fact, after the General Assembly adopted Resolution 3379 in 1975 that equated Zionism with racism (abrogated it in 1991 after Gulf War Aggression against Iraq and the de facto military occupation of the Gulf States) it would be impractical for the Israeli-controlled U.N. (via the U.S.) to reapply the term “racism” to any racist act by Israel.

Three: the imperialist news agency, Reuters, reported on the discrimination charges by employing linguistic deception. It printed the charges under the headline: “UN: Israel must stop discrimination against Arabs, Palestinians.” [italics added] It is deception because, who is the Palestinian and who is the Arab in occupied Palestine, the occupied West Bank, and in the Gaza Strip? Does Reuters mean that Palestinians are distinct from the Arabs? Or maybe Arabs and Palestinians are two similar/dissimilar groups living in Palestine? Or maybe it wanted to imply that 1) it meant all indigenous Palestinians from all origins; or 2) it meant Arabs outside Palestine?

Arguably, therefore, Reuters’ attempt at concealing the victims of Israeli racism is apparent. The agency is trying to water down the Palestinian identity and merge it with that of the greater Arab nation primarily to promote the Zionist Israeli idea that Arab countries should absorb all Palestinian refugees in the countries where they are currently residing since they are all Arabs. …

Four: reporting on the U.N. charges against Israeli practices in the whole of Israeli-occupied Palestine was no less than Haaretz, a Zionist Israeli newspaper. This is somewhat peculiar since many in the West accredit it with progressive leanings. We believe this is sheer nonsense since Israel and all of its institutions, culture, and media are multiple faces for the same merchandize, that is, they are all expressions of the racist Zionist matrix that generated them. Specifically, Zionism and political or humanistic progressivism are antithetical because Zionism as a foundation and ideology could never reconcile with the reality that it has been trying to uproot and supplant Palestinians since the Balfour Declaration.9

In quoting the United Nations, we added italics to all relevant situations where the charge of racism is transparent:

The UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination said Israel’s security measures to ward off suicide bombings and other attacks must be re-calibrated to avoid discrimination against Arab Israelis or Palestinians living in Israeli-occupied lands such as the West Bank.

The committee specified that Israel should ease roadblocks and other restrictions on Palestinians and put a stop to settler violence and hate speech.

Its 18 independent experts, who examined the records of 13 countries at a four-week meeting in Geneva, also said Israel should cease building a barrier in and around the West Bank and ensure its various checkpoints and road closures do not reinforce segregation.

In its conclusions, the committee also voiced concern at an unequal distribution of water resources, a disproportionate targeting of Palestinians in house demolitions and the “denial of the right of many Palestinians” to return to their land.

Differing applications of criminal law between Jews and Arabs had caused “harsher punishments for Palestinians for the same offence,” said the committee, whose recommendations are not legally binding.

A high number of complaints by Arab Israelis against police officers are not properly investigated and many Arabs suffer discriminatory work practices and high unemployment, it said.

Excavations beneath and around the Al-Aqsa mosque, Islam’s holiest site in Jerusalem, should also be undertaken in a way that will “in no way endanger the mosque and impede access to it,” it added.

Israel argues that the UN committee’s remit, to ensure compliance with a 1965 international treaty against racial discrimination which the Jewish state has ratified, does not apply to the Palestinian territories it has occupied since 1967. The committee rejects that position.8

Next: Part 2 of 12

  1. Quoted by Michael Bar Zohar’s in Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet (Prentice-Hall: 1967), p. 157. []
  2. Quoted by Uri Avneri in Israel without Zionists (Macmillan: 1968), p. 134. []
  3. Interview with Silvia Cattori, “Omar Barghouti: ‘No State Has the Right to Exist as a Racist State,’” Voltairenet.org, 7 December 2007. []
  4. Kim Petersen, “Defining Racism,” Dissident Voice, 26 November 2007. []
  5. David Beers, “Marc Edge on ‘Asper Nation,’” The Tyee, 13 November 2007. National Post, a chunk of “Canada’s Most Dangerous Media Company,” CanWest Global is, according to Mark Edge, associate professor of journalism at Sam Houston University, undermining democracy and attempting to set the political agenda through ownership manipulation of editorials. The Asper family that own the National Post are unabashed supporters of Zionism. []
  6. Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, “International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination,” 21 December 1965. []
  7. Basel Ghattas, “Palestinians in Israel: Discrimination and Resistance,” Palestine Center and The Jerusalem Fund, Information Brief No. 59, December 2000. []
  8. Reuters, “UN: Israel must stop discrimination against Arabs, Palestinians,” Haaretz, 9 March 2007. [] []
  9. The Balfour Declaration []

Kim Petersen is co-editor of Dissident Voice. B. J. Sabri is an Iraqi-American antiwar activist. They can be reached at: Petersen_sabri@yahoo.com. Read other articles by Kim Petersen, or visit Kim Petersen's website.

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  1. jaime said on December 29th, 2007 at 9:59am #

    First premise of the above article:

    “The UN illegally sanctioned the partition of Palestine between the indigenous Palestinians and Jewish European invaders, thus leading to the installation of the racist state of Israel. ”

    WRONG.

    The decision to partition the area into two states of Palestine and Israel was done by majority vote of all of the nations of the UN.

    The UN is not an illegal organization. Unless you’re mentally ill or a member of an international terror organization.

    ——–

    “Forcible installation of the Zionist entity in Palestine?”

    WRONG.

    1) Jews are indigenous to the Middle east and have lived there continuously for at least 3,000 years. The modern state of Israel is a re-establishment of a homeland for the world’s Jews . Archeology as well as historical and religious documentation supports this.

    2) The modern Zionist movement, starting in the mid 1800′s BOUGHT tracts of land from local Arabs to build settlements. The land was not wrested by force from the local inhabitants.


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  2. jaime said on December 29th, 2007 at 10:11am #

    Here’s another howler.

    “Only five percent of Palestinians have college degrees or higher, compared to 17 percent of Jews in Israel.”

    http://www.israel21c.org/bin/en.jsp?enDispWho=Views%5El309&enPage=BlankPage&enDisplay=view&enDispWhat=object&enVersion=0&enZone=Views

    ACADEMIC COEXISTENCE

    Israel’s universities are at the forefront of work with Arabs and Palestinians to try to improve their quality of life and education. They are a main forum for liberal discussion between Jews and Arabs. Arab students and Palestinians study at most of the institutions. At the University of Haifa, for example, 20 percent of undergraduates are Arab Israelis.

    Haifa University has a Jewish-Arab Center which advances dialogue on Arab-Jewish coexistence. It also runs an Arab Student Leadership Program, and researchers at the university work jointly with Al-Quds University in east Jerusalem, to develop and implement diagnostic and prognostic tests for learning disabilities in Palestinian and Israeli youth.

    Hebrew University, which was targeted in a terror attack that killed both Jews and Arabs, was co-founded by Albert Einstein. It has always espoused the values of pluralism and tolerance and has a large number of Arab-Israeli programs, including training courses for dentists from the PA and Middle East countries, and a variety of joint Israeli-Palestinian research projects.

    The university’s first international symposium was jointly organized by the dental schools of the Hebrew University and Al-Quds University in November last year despite political tension. The Braun School of Public Health and Community Medicine has 35 graduates from Gaza and the West Bank. Some of the school’s graduates founded the School of Public Health at Al Quds University and continue to teach there. The school has a trilateral agreement with Al Quds and a US university for research, training and development of public health programs and a trilateral workshop on development of software for smoking cessation programs is planned.

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  3. Deadbeat said on December 29th, 2007 at 11:42am #

    Looking forward to see how this series shapes up. I do hope that there is an exploration of Zionism’s impact on U.S political economy and not constrain itself solely to the Middle East.

  4. dan elliott said on December 29th, 2007 at 12:01pm #

    Kim, why is DV providing these ziofascist creeps yet another forum from which to spout their noxious nonsense? They have 99 & 44/00 pct of the “mainstream” media pushing the Zionist version of reality on a daily basis, so why give them another outlet?

    I’m familiar with all the Indymedia-type reasoning on such questions, which is probably appropriate for the IMC network, but I have to seriously question whether it’s helpful here, whether or not it contributes to maximum progress or “productivity” toward DV’s stated goals.

    I hope the policy is something that can be reconsidered?

    Thanks,

    dan

  5. jaime said on December 29th, 2007 at 3:13pm #

    Hi Dan,

    So maybe you can tell us, if Jesus wasn’t Jewish, what was his ethnicity and religion?

    Assuming you’re one of those who doesn’t agree that Jews are also indigenous to the Middle East.

    Are you so afraid of other views that you need them censored so that your ideas don’t fall apart?

    If Israel is so racist, why does it have 3 official languages: Hebrew, Arabic and English?

    How do you want to resolve the Israel/Palestine conflict? With blood or with ink?

    Seems that every time I ask people that question here, they run away.

  6. dan elliott said on December 29th, 2007 at 3:28pm #

    “running away”? how about hiding behind an alias?

    who are you? what town do you live in? where are you politically active?

    I thought so. hohum.

  7. Michael Gillespie said on December 29th, 2007 at 4:54pm #

    Jamie asks,

    “So maybe you can tell us, if Jesus wasn’t Jewish, what was his ethnicity and religion?”

    Actually, there is a classic religious text, one that Jewish- and Christian-Zionist pressure groups have long sought to suppress, which strongly suggests that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was, racially speaking, a Palestinian Arab, though culturally she was Jewish.

    http://www.truthbook.com/urantiabook/paragraphs/U122_1_2.cfm

    “Mary, the earth mother of Jesus, was a descendant of a long line of unique ancestors embracing many of the most remarkable women in the racial history of Urantia. Although Mary was an average woman of her day and generation, possessing a fairly normal temperament, she reckoned among her ancestors such well-known women as Annon, Tamar, Ruth, Bathsheba, Ansie, Cloa, Eve, Enta, and Ratta. No Jewish woman of that day had a more illustrious lineage of common progenitors or one extending back to more auspicious beginnings. Mary’s ancestry, like Joseph’s, was characterized by the predominance of strong but average individuals, relieved now and then by numerous outstanding personalities in the march of civilization and the progressive evolution of religion. Racially considered, it is hardly proper to regard Mary as a Jewess. In culture and belief she was a Jew, but in hereditary endowment she was more a composite of Syrian, Hittite, Phoenician, Greek, and Egyptian stocks, her racial inheritance being more general than that of Joseph. ”

    This remarkable text also counters the chosen people theology and ideology in no uncertain terms:

    http://www.truthbook.com/urantiabook/paragraphs/U71_3_2.cfm

    “Much as it is to be regretted, national egotism has been essential to social survival. The chosen people doctrine has been a prime factor in tribal welding and nation building right on down to modern times. But no state can attain ideal levels of functioning until every form of intolerance is mastered; it is everlastingly inimical to human progress. And intolerance is best combated by the co-ordination of science, commerce, play, and religion. ”

    http://www.truthbook.com/urantiabook/paragraphs/U134_5_4.cfm

    “This rule of the Most Highs in the kingdoms of men is not for the especial benefit of any especially favored group of mortals. There is no such thing as a ‘chosen people.’ The rule of the Most Highs, the overcontrollers of political evolution, is a rule designed to foster the greatest good to the greatest number of all men and for the greatest length of time.”

    It also counters the argument that the modern state of Israel is a fulfillment of the covenant between Abraham and God:

    http://www.truthbook.com/urantiabook/paragraphs/U175_3_1.cfm

    “At eight o’clock on this Tuesday evening the fateful meeting of the Sanhedrin was called to order. On many previous occasions had this supreme court of the Jewish nation informally decreed the death of Jesus. Many times had this august ruling body determined to put a stop to his work, but never before had they resolved to place him under arrest and to bring about his death at any and all costs. It was just before midnight on this Tuesday, April 4, A.D. 30, that the Sanhedrin, as then constituted, officially and unanimously voted to impose the death sentence upon both Jesus and Lazarus. This was the answer to the Master’s last appeal to the rulers of the Jews which he had made in the temple only a few hours before, and it represented their reaction of bitter resentment toward Jesus’ last and vigorous indictment of these same chief priests and impenitent Sadducees and Pharisees. The passing of death sentence (even before his trial) upon the Son of God was the Sanhedrin’s reply to the last offer of heavenly mercy ever to be extended to the Jewish nation, as such. ”

    http://www.truthbook.com/urantiabook/paragraphs/U175_3_2.cfm

    “From this time on the Jews were left to finish their brief and short lease of national life wholly in accordance with their purely human status among the nations of Urantia. Israel had repudiated the Son of the God who made a covenant with Abraham, and the plan to make the children of Abraham the light-bearers of truth to the world had been shattered. The divine covenant had been abrogated, and the end of the Hebrew nation drew on apace. ”

    You will readily understand, of course, why certain powerful ethnic and religious special interest groups would wish to suppress such statements and attempt to prevent the text that presents from coming to wide public knowledge and gaining popular acceptance. That they would do so, and thus put themselves and others at such an enormous disadvantage despite statements such as those below is perhaps as much an indication of moderns man’s intellectual confusion and his ignorance of his origins and his history as his reluctance to be transformed by faith.

    http://www.truthbook.com/urantiabook/paragraphs/U175_2_1.cfm

    “The fact that the spiritual leaders and the religious teachers of the Jewish nation onetime rejected the teachings of Jesus and conspired to bring about his cruel death, does not in any manner affect the status of any individual Jew in his standing before God. And it should not cause those who profess to be followers of the Christ to be prejudiced against the Jew as a fellow mortal. The Jews, as a nation, as a sociopolitical group, paid in full the terrible price of rejecting the Prince of Peace. Long since they ceased to be the spiritual torchbearers of divine truth to the races of mankind, but this constitutes no valid reason why the individual descendants of these long-ago Jews should be made to suffer the persecutions which have been visited upon them by intolerant, unworthy, and bigoted professed followers of Jesus of Nazareth, who was, himself, a Jew by natural birth.” [Note: The doctrine of matrilineal descent has been part of Judaism since at least the second century A.D., when it was codified into the Talmud.]

    http://www.truthbook.com/urantiabook/paragraphs/U175_2_2.cfm

    “Many times has this unreasoning and un-Christlike hatred and persecution of modern Jews terminated in the suffering and death of some innocent and unoffending Jewish individual whose very ancestors, in the times of Jesus, heartily accepted his gospel and presently died unflinchingly for that truth which they so wholeheartedly believed. What a shudder of horror passes over the onlooking celestial beings as they behold the professed followers of Jesus indulge themselves in persecuting, harassing, and even murdering the later-day descendants of Peter, Philip, Matthew, and others of the Palestinian Jews who so gloriously yielded up their lives as the first martyrs of the gospel of the heavenly kingdom!”

    http://www.truthbook.com/urantiabook/paragraphs/U195_9_6.cfm

    “Primitive man lived a life of superstitious bondage to religious fear. Modern, civilized men dread the thought of falling under the dominance of strong religious convictions. Thinking man has always feared to be held by a religion. When a strong and moving religion threatens to dominate him, he invariably tries to rationalize, traditionalize, and institutionalize it, thereby hoping to gain control of it. By such procedure, even a revealed religion becomes man-made and man-dominated. Modern men and women of intelligence evade the religion of Jesus because of their fears of what it will do to them—and with them. And all such fears are well founded. The religion of Jesus does, indeed, dominate and transform its believers, demanding that men dedicate their lives to seeking for a knowledge of the will of the Father in heaven and requiring that the energies of living be consecrated to the unselfish service of the brotherhood of man.”

    Blessed are the peacemakers:

    “If they won’t make this pledge to you, do not support them. This is it: ‘If elected president I will do everything possible to promote negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians to achieve peace and security for Israel and a contiguous state for the Palestinians.’ If they won’t tell you that, don’t support them.” –Jimmy Carter, 39th President of the United States of America, speaking in Iowa City, IA, April 18, 2007

  8. Anon said on December 29th, 2007 at 5:38pm #

    I look forward to your piece on institutionalized, systemic racism throughout the Arab world directed at non-Muslims.

    Oh wait, it’s never coming…

  9. Mulga Mumblebrain said on December 29th, 2007 at 6:06pm #

    Good to see ‘jaime’ (yes, dear, I am utilising my mock Spanish/Mexican accent, as you undoubtedly wish) straight into the fray. The truth, held by the vast majority of the world’s population, as judged by General Assembly votes and all surveys of world public opinion, is that Israel is a nasty racist, aggressive state, treating the Palestinians with a refined cruelty reminiscent not only of Israel’s lost love and close comrade-in- (nuclear)arms, apartheid South Africa, but also of other fascist states of the past and present. Israeli intransigence and contempt for decency grows out of two primary well-springs, in my opinion. Hatred and contempt for a global community that allowed or fostered the Judeocide, and justifiable, if, thankfully, highly unlikely fear that it would happen again. Just for the record, the chances of another mass murder of Jews, as I say thankfully small, can only increase as long as Israel remains a pariah dog of a country, not only viciously oppressing the Palestinians, slaughtering Lebanese, interfering in African affairs and pursuing a state policy of destroying the Moslem countries of the Middle East from Lebanon to Pakistan. The second well-spring is, in my opinion, the fundamentally racist nature of Judaism. One need not search far to find gems of fundamentalist Judaic thought such as Rabbi Kook the Elder, first Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi of Israel, who infamously said,
    “The difference between a Jewish soul and the souls of non-Jews is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of animals’.
    If that’s not clear enough for you, how about Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsberg leader of an Hassidic sect in 1996.
    “Jewish life has an infinite value. There is something more Holy and unique about Jewish life than about non-Jewish life’
    Hundreds of other, similar quotations could be made. The point is, of course, we are dealing here with a state mobilised by a fanatical ideology of racial supremacism, that puts even the Nazis to shame. Not that I believe for an instant that every Jew is motivated by delusions of infinite superiority to the rest of creation. Inside Israel, and throughout the Diaspora, decent, humane Jews cogently criticise and oppose Israel’s fascist and racist policies. As a reward the Judeofascists abuse them with epithets such as ‘self-hating Jew’. The ideology of the state of Israel, it cannot be doubted, however, is of the tenor so pithily expressed by the good Rabbis Kook and Ginsberg. We saw this ideology of racist murderousness on display yet again during the long planned assault on Lebanon in 2006. Whereas 90% of Israeli casualties were military, despite Israel placing army camps and other clear military targets right next to Israeli/Arab villages in the north of Israel, 90% of Lebanese victims were civilians, with clear targeting of civilians, ambulances, schools, hospitals and mosques. The Israeli policy followed the admonitions of the Yesha Council of Torah Sages and Rabbis, who stated, as reported on the Yediot Ahronot website on 31st of July,
    “..according to Jewish law during a time of war, there is no such term as ‘innocent civilians’ of the enemy”.
    The same council had issued an edict two weeks earlier urging the Israeli Army to ‘exterminate the enemy’ and ‘. ..not flinch from killing enemy civilians’. The council described International Conventions and Laws prohibiting the deliberate targeting of civilians during war-time as ‘Christian morality’ (not meant as a compliment, I presume!) The council decreed that the targeting and killing of civilians was a ‘mitzvah’, or good deed.
    So, there you have it, ieven though it was all, as ever, unreported in the Rightwing sewer of the ‘Free Press’. The ideological underpinning of the Zionist state is clearly racist to an extraordinary degree. It explains the unending history of massacres and atrocities, and also the unending lying, or ‘hasbara’, that has accompanied it. When you see youselves as the ‘Chosen People’, so far above the rest of Creation, anything you say becomes the Truth, by Holy Writ, and to Hell with goyish ‘facts’. As I say however, repulsive as this clerico-fascist ideology is, and so immensely threatening to the world as the state ideology of an aggressive nuclear-armed state (nukes on Tehran-a mitzvah?), there are many Jews who reject it, and we must ally with them before the racist Judeofascists lunatics throw us all into the abyss.

  10. greybeard said on December 29th, 2007 at 8:41pm #

    Yes, Jews have lived in Palestine for several millennia. Only since 1850 or so, however, have they sought domination over, and subsequent elimination of, the indigenous peoples. Peterson’s and Sabri’s work already commends itself, by using original Zionist sources–to refute the Zionist myths. With respect to “academic inclusion” of Arabs, the quota system was revised specifically to limit Arab enrollment. But, based on James Fowler’s work, one set of myths will not fall by attack from without–it falls by examination from within. For this reason Ilan Pappe, Israel Shahak, and Uri Davis are invaluable sources.

  11. jaime said on December 30th, 2007 at 1:43am #

    Speaking of social justice, can any of you geniuses tell us how many Jews/Israelis are enrolled in universities in Saudi Arabia, Gaza, the West Bank, Yemen the UAR, Abu Dhabi or Lebanon?

    Exactly none. Jews/Israelis aren’t allowed to live or travel there.
    So spare us the piss and moan about how discriminated Arabs are in Israel.

    And I still haven’t gotten an answer about how you nice people would resolve the Palestinian/Israeli situation.

    Armed struggle until Israel or the Palestinians become extinct?

    or

    Negotiated settlement?

    Ink or Blood?

    You’re supposed to be “peace activists.” Not a lynch mob.

  12. jaime said on December 30th, 2007 at 1:54am #

    Dan wrote:
    “running away”? how about hiding behind an alias?
    who are you? what town do you live in? where are you politically active?”
    ——–
    Thank you for the acknowledgment, Dan.

    Did what I post frighten you THAT much?

    Are you going to weave a new conspiracy theory about Jamie the Zionist agent? Maybe I’m just some little nobody who is truly interested in the bizarre contradictions that DV presents.

    Or maybe I work for US Home security, or the Mossad.

    Why Does it really matter?

  13. Michael Kenny said on December 30th, 2007 at 9:30am #

    One of the oddities about Zionism is that it postulates that the Jews are a Middle Eastern people but is a Jewish version of 19th century European one people/one state nationalism. Society in the Middle East is tribal, with various ethnic/religious groups living side by side in the same polity but without abandoning their separate identity and it was precisely that mentality that lead the Jews to seek to maintain their Jewish identity in Europe. However, Europe is, so to speak, a territorial monoculture. Here, you are where you come from. If you live in France, you’re French. If you’re French, you live in France. Thus, two “ares” in the same “come from” have always spelt trouble in Europe and, indeed, still do (Kosovo!). Of course, many Jews integrated into European society over the centuries and God alone knows how many modern Europeans have some Jewish ancestry, but the classic Middle Eastern desire of some of the Jews to maintain their ethnic identity while continuing to live in Europe ran smack into the wall of the territorial monoculture and that couldn’t but end badly.

    The reason why Zionism, and with it, the State of Israel, has failed is because both postulate a European-style nation-state for a non-European people in their ancestral homeland outside Europe. The tragedy of the Jews is that having got themselves into deep trouble in Europe by behaving like Middle Easterners, they fled back to the Middle East and got themselves into deep trouble there by behaving like … Europeans!

    The squaring of that circle is the task that confronts the modern generation of Israelis and, more generally, Jews and only they can resolve the conundrum. All the rest of us can do is try to keep out of the fight!

  14. Max Shields said on December 30th, 2007 at 11:42am #

    “The reason why Zionism, and with it, the State of Israel, has failed is because both postulate a European-style nation-state for a non-European people in their ancestral homeland outside Europe. The tragedy of the Jews is that having got themselves into deep trouble in Europe by behaving like Middle Easterners, they fled back to the Middle East and got themselves into deep trouble there by behaving like … Europeans!”

    How true this is is hard to say, but it touches a chord. It is that state of confusion that inflames.

    Israel has been a beachhead for the West. A colonizing (ala American colonialism) intrusion into the Middle East. I read an op-ed by a man claiming to be a Palestinian Jew, with a long and abiding heritage. His words were loud and clear that Israel and the Jews have blood on their hands and must face the fact that Israel is the cause of any and all Palestinian attacks. That the latter is the result of deep oppression, of stolen farm lands, racism in a form that perhaps peaks what has been (and to some extent still is) in the USA.

    He notes that the Palestinian people have been a patient people with all that Isreal terrorism has unleashed on them and that Israel does not want peace that Israel wants to eliminate the Palestinian people (wipe them off the map).

  15. Hue Longer said on December 30th, 2007 at 11:46am #

    jaime said on December 29th, 2007 at 9:59 am
    “2) The modern Zionist movement, starting in the mid 1800’s BOUGHT tracts of land from local Arabs to build settlements. The land was not wrested by force from the local inhabitants”.

    NON-local Arabs participated and benefitted from the manipulation of real estate laws and sold land from underneath indiginous persons…not “local Arabs”. Even if you don’t call evicting someone under these grounds “wrested by force”, your statement implies that no other land was “wrested by force”

  16. jaime said on December 30th, 2007 at 1:14pm #

    Hue:
    Thank you for confirmation that returning Jews BOUGHT the land they settled on. This lays to rest any accusations of genocidal intentions.

    Michael:
    “The tragedy of the Jews is that having got themselves into deep trouble in Europe by behaving like Middle Easterners, they fled back to the Middle East and got themselves into deep trouble there by behaving like … Europeans!”

    - that notion doesn’t hold water. During the Holocaust, even Jews who had successfully assimilated every way in the prevailing cultures of France, Germany, Holland, Hungary, indeed all over Europe for literally hundreds of years; were singled out for their ethnicity, systematically demonized (much like is done here on DV) disenfranchised, impoverished, starved and murdered on an industrial scale. Their “behavior” in the prevailing culture was never a factor.

    - Similarly, when the UN voted partition of Israel and Palestine in 1948 and the creation of the Jewish state, about 1,000,000 Jewish inhabitants of Arab and North African countries suddenly found themselves stateless and penniless and exiled after in some cases a thousand years of integration in the prevailing culture. Nothing to do with individual or group behavior at all.

    - And Max, Zionism hasn’t “failed.”
    The country is still very much in existence. Go look in your local liquor store. There’s a shelf full of Israeli wines there. Next time you eat a bagel…think of me.

  17. Espresso said on December 30th, 2007 at 3:31pm #

    Jaime wrote: “1) Jews are indigenous to the Middle east and have lived there continuously for at least 3,000 years. The modern state of Israel is a re-establishment of a homeland for the world’s Jews . Archeology as well as historical and religious documentation supports this.”

    —————————-

    There were very few Jews living there before the turn of the 20th century.

    1800: 275,000 TOTAL; 7,000 (2.5%) Jews; 246,000 (89%) Arabs; 22,000 (8%) Christians

    1890: 532,000 TOTAL; 43,000 (8%) Jews; 432,000 (81%) Arabs; 57,000 (11%) Christians

    1914: 689,000 TOTAL; 94,000 (14%) Jews; 525,000 (76%) Arabs; 70,000 (10%) Christians

    Source: ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine )

    1922: 752,048 TOTAL; 589,177(78%) Arabs; 83,790(11%) Jews; 71,464(10%) Christians; 7,617(1%) Other

    1931: 1,036,339 TOTAL; 761,922(74%) Arabs; 175,138(17%) Jews; 89,134(9%) Christians; 10,145(1%) Other

    1945: 1,764,520 TOTAL; 1,061,270(60%) Arabs; 553,600(31%) Jews; 135,550(8%) Christians; 14,100(1%) Other

    Source: ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Palestine )

    2006: 7,116,700 TOTAL; 1,413,300 (19.86%) Arabs; 5,394,400(75.79%) Jews; 309,900 (4.35%) Other

    Source: ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Israel )

    So, yes there were Jews living in Palestine. They were a tiny, small, insignificant fraction of the entire population. The problem that so many on these boards have with Zionists is that Zionists resort to spinning the facts, rewriting history and disingenously misinforming. They knowingly lie and deceive.

    For those who have studied this topic and know very well the history of Palestine, the misinformation campaign by fervent Zionists kills all their credibility.

  18. Espresso said on December 30th, 2007 at 3:37pm #

    TO make that clearer:
    1800: 2.5% Jews, 89% Arabs
    1890: 8% Jews, 81% Arabs
    1914: 14% Jews, 76% Arabs
    1922: 11% Jews, 78% Arabs
    1931: 17% Jews, 74% Arabs
    1945: 31% Jews, 60% Arabs
    2006: 76% Jews, 20% Arabs

  19. Mulga Mumblebrain said on December 30th, 2007 at 3:39pm #

    I note, unsurprised, that jaime does not address the question of Jewish hyper-chauvinism and racial supremacism. Does jaime believe, as do Rabbis Kook and Ginsberg, and many other Judeofascists, that the Jews are a different order of existence from the rest of us. ? Does jaime believe this may explain the endless list of Israeli massacres, from the days of the Nakbah, down to the horrors of Sabra and Shatilla or even the infamous slaughter of a 13 year old girl some years ago, whose body was lacerated by a full-clip of ammunition when an Israeli soldier demonstrated the innate ‘purity of arms’ of the IDF, by ‘confirming the kill’ and in so doing confirming the existence of an Israeli policy of slaughtering the wounded, even when they are children. Despite all jaime et al’s denunciations of ‘anti-Semitism’ they never address the real problem of Jewish exceptionalism and racist supremacism. They tend to simply ignore the question, denying its existence being too silly, even for accomplished ‘hasbaranicks’.

  20. Hue Longer said on December 30th, 2007 at 3:59pm #

    jaime said on December 30th, 2007 at 1:14 pm #

    “Hue:
    Thank you for confirmation that returning Jews BOUGHT the land they settled on. This lays to rest any accusations of genocidal intentions”.

    Keep trying jaime, but even if you believe cognitive dissonance a virtue on this subject, it’s results go farther than what you intend and will make you a sad boy

  21. Espresso said on December 30th, 2007 at 4:20pm #

    “I note, unsurprised, that jaime does not address the question of Jewish hyper-chauvinism and racial supremacism.”

    - Yeah, here’s a good article in the Wash Post from this week that addresses that point. Jaime maybe you’d like to read this:

    For Israel’s Arab Citizens, Isolation and Exclusion
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/19/AR2007121902681.html

  22. jaime said on December 30th, 2007 at 6:38pm #

    Too bad about those “Palestinian Israelis.”
    Maybe they’d be happier in Gaza, surrounded by their own people.

    Got any stories about Jewish Palestinians, or Jewish Saudi Arabians?

    I’ll wait.

  23. jaime said on December 30th, 2007 at 7:20pm #

    “Hyper-chauvinism and racial supremacism” exist only in your twisted cranium, coffee guy.
    There’s nothing to dignify with discussion.

    It’s like asking a person of colour to discuss why Blacks are dumber than whites.

    Is this the best you got???

    PS: 24 hrs + elapsed and still no takers on “ink or blood.”

    You lot are pathetic.

  24. Espresso said on December 30th, 2007 at 7:40pm #

    “Got any stories about Jewish Palestinians, or Jewish Saudi Arabians?”

    - I’m in NO way defending Saudi Arabian policies, but they didn’t steal land from an entire ethnicity of people. What does Saudi Arabia have to do with an apartheid country that TAKES and TAKES and TAKES from U.S. taxpayer and gives nothing in return, but problems?

    When one ethnicity steal the lands; confiscates and bulldozes villages and rebuilds illegal settlements for their own ethnicity and changes all the Arab village names to new Hebrew names, then it would obviously inflame those whose lands have been stolen. It would be no wonder that troops would be needed to keep these illegal settlements of this exclusive ethnicity protected in these areas largely inhabited by the “other” ethnicity.

    And you wonder why Jews who steal lands in Gaza and the West Bank and East Jerusalem would not be accepted as “brothers” by the victims?

  25. Espresso said on December 30th, 2007 at 7:50pm #

    jaime,

    The problem with you is the same as that for the Bush administration. You don’t learn history, gather facts and evidence, and then draw your conclusions. You try to rewrite history, distort facts, and twist evidence to work it around your ideology.

    It makes it impossible to even speak with someone like you. You don’t have facts, history, nor evidence on your side, but then again you already know that. You resort to rhetorical spin jobs one after the other. You are engaged in pure tribalism. You will lie, deceive, and say whatever you need to for your “tribe”.

  26. Espresso said on December 30th, 2007 at 8:02pm #

    The problem, as I see it, is that your behavior only harms your tribe. Your politics on Israel are far removed from Judaism, the religion, but you are so quick to call anyone who criticize Israel an “anti-semite” or “jew-hater” of “biggot”.

    That harms your religion from the perspective of those who read your posts. You hide behind Judaism as a tactic. People who know nothing of Judaism begin to think that you represent the feelings of Jews (which you don’t) and so they start to wonder about Judaism as a religion. But what you spew around here is clearly Zionist propaganda.

    If it’s really important for you to label people as a rhetorical tactic then do the Jewish community a favor and call people “anti-zionists”. You know full well that that’s what they are. They have no problems with Judaism or the Jewish people.

    I love Jewish people, but I truly consider Zionists to be racists. I’d give my coat off my back if I saw a Jewish person in need and despair. I have no compassion for Zionists and am disgusted how they’ve treated the Palestinians over this last half-century.

  27. Mulga Mumblebrain said on December 30th, 2007 at 8:11pm #

    Now jaime, how’d you guess I’m a coffee addict? Wow, spooky. Now back to the question. Are you one of those Jewish hyper-chauvinists who believe Jews are an higher form of creation than the rest of us? I’m always impressed when I think of my parents, and theirs, and most of my friends and acquaintances, and realise that in the minds of certain people, they are closer to animals than they are to the Chosen People. I realise there are a lot of religious lunacies going around, bread and wine mysteriously transsubstantiated to flesh and blood, infallible Polish reactionaries and all-knowing mullahs deciding what is moral and what not, but this one always gets my attention. If it were just a matter of a nasty religious delusion that would be one thing, but as the entire history of the Zionist project shows, some virulent, essentially exclusivist and racist ideology must be behind the endless and fiendishly refined cruelties visited on the Palestinians. The vast lexicon of Zionist racist epithets for Arabs, and Palestinians in particular-’two-legged animals’, ‘human dust’ and ‘drugged cockroaches’ come readily to mind-indicates a ferocious race hatred is at work. The evidence is undeniable yet for the jaimes of this world, blame is all on one side and the other is a veritable paradise of ‘moral purity’. Only problem jaime, most of the world’s population, particularly those familiar with the facts, do not concur. Smearing everyone who understands Israeli racism as ‘anti-Semitic’ cannot do, unless, of course, the ever present ‘Masada Complex’ of so many Judeofascists requires, indeed desires, the enmity of the world, to be carefully cultivated by obdurate cruelty, total intransigence and virulent abuse of all outraged by the cruelties inflicted on the imprisoned Palestinians. Then it makes sense, if of a totally nonsensical type.

  28. Deadbeat said on December 30th, 2007 at 8:23pm #

    I think the next big step is exactly what Jeffrey Blankfort advocates — a boycott of Israel and the withdrawing of aid.

  29. Espresso said on December 30th, 2007 at 8:32pm #

    Jaime,
    As you requested, here’s a story about a Palestinian Jew. Enjoy:
    http://www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=876a32a6-a92f-4821-8d88-de89e6cbdaa8

  30. Espresso said on December 30th, 2007 at 8:34pm #

    “I think the next big step is exactly what Jeffrey Blankfort advocates — a boycott of Israel and the withdrawing of aid.”

    - the only problem with that is getting a single U.S. politician to defy the Israel Lobby. But, I agree, if that could happen that would provide the necessary pressure to get Israel to come to a “just” settlement.

  31. jaime said on December 30th, 2007 at 10:48pm #

    That’s the last time I check your links Koffee Kid.

    Palestinian Jew?

    Mark Braverman is a clinical psychologist living in Bethesda, Md.

    Jerk off.

  32. Hue Longer said on December 30th, 2007 at 11:32pm #

    If you get erased after calling a poster “Jerk off”, remember that it had nothing to do with you being cencored for your views . You may not be intentionally dishonest, but I’ve seen you claim this many times

  33. Espresso said on December 31st, 2007 at 7:16am #

    Jaime: “Mark Braverman is a clinical psychologist living in Bethesda, Md.”

    - He’s a Palestinian Jew who lives in Bethesda, MD. What does his profession have to do with anything?

  34. Espresso said on December 31st, 2007 at 7:19am #

    I’m seriously starting to believe that Jaime is some “David Duke” out there trying to spread anti-semitism. This “Jaime” persona is almost a cartoonish stereotype of today’s Zionists. I’m not convinced he’s for real. No one is this dumb, and rhetorical, and dishonest – even the hardest Zionists know when to cut their rhetorical losses and just disappear.

  35. jaime said on December 31st, 2007 at 9:40am #

    He’s a 3rd generation DESCENDANT of a Palestinian Jew.

    Somebody was supposed to show me an example of the lifestyle and conditions of Jews CURRENTLY LIVING in Palestinian areas or other Arab countries like Saudi Arabia.

    That was a trick question.

    Jews aren’t allowed to live in any of these enlightened places, even though 1/5 of Israel’s population is Arab and Arabic is an official language.

    It’s OK, I didn’t expect anything, so I’m not disappointed.

  36. Max Shields said on December 31st, 2007 at 10:48am #

    Espresso
    Thank you for introducing Braverman. He is the Palestinian Jew who wrote an outstanding op-ed I mentioned earlier on in this thread. He unequivcally blames Israel for the violence that follows 1948.

    This is a very important point – a lesson of Nuremberg tribunal, international Law and the UN charter – in defining crimes against humanity and specifically agressive invasion of sovereign territories. Basically, when a nation-state invades another (without being directly attacked) than that nation and those in power have committed the ultimate crime against humanity and all violence and death that follows such actions are the part of the initial crime. So, the US invades Iraq, the million deaths of civilians (many children), and millions of refugees are the result of the invasion, and thus making the US the perpetrator of this massive crime and the killing that continues.

    Braverman, in so many words, has claimed the same against Israel. Those Israeli’s “historians” (fiction writers) toiling away at a re-write of history will never succeed in hiding the hideous crime that the zionist perpetrated on the Palestianians (non-Jew and Jew). It is Israel who has been indicted time and time again by the UN’s General Assembly. These facts cannot be papered over. Under the world justice system, these crimes must be addressed. As long as the US continues its role as chief hegomonist in the region (and with its veto power on the Security Council) and Israel as a client state of USA, such justice will be postponed. But the day is coming, because the state of Israel cannot be sustained.

  37. Espresso said on December 31st, 2007 at 11:14am #

    The best thing that the Palestinians have going for them now is the neo-cons. They have over reached (misleading us into war with Iraq, and then trying for Iran) and have exposed this Zionist hijacking of U.S. middle east policy.

    Most Americans had been “dumbed down” about the history of the Middle East, but the neo-cons have made many prominent voices feel compelled to expose these dual agents for their ulterior agenda. The Jimmy Carters, Meirsheimer and Walts, and others are finally bringing this darkness out into the light. They never would have taken these personal risks had the neo-cons not put U.S. security in such jeopardy for the benefit of Israel.

    Now, let’s hope that the movement of the left that wants to cut ties to that apartheid country continues to gain momentum. The internet has really helped the Palestinians as well. Now people can quickly find the backgrounds of all the “talking heads” that mislead us to war, the journalists who aided and abbetted them (the Wolf Blitzers who used to work for the Israel Lobby). Never before has the truth been so easily accessible.

  38. Espresso said on December 31st, 2007 at 11:16am #

    … which, as we can see, has made today’s Zionists (i.e. Jaime), appear like dishonest clowns.

  39. Deadbeat said on December 31st, 2007 at 1:37pm #

    Espresso,

    You wrote an excellent summation. I totally agree.

    Thanks!

  40. Hatuxka said on December 31st, 2007 at 2:46pm #

    Joel Kovel covers the (exponentially increasingly vicious) Jewish hyperchauvinism that formed the basis of Zionism and that buttresses Israel now in his book “Overcoming Zionism”. The contempt that Israel holds for its main supporters, the U. S. Jewish community, not to mention the world at large is a story that is a good basis for a book, too. Being the “well-meaning” dupes and tools of ruthless thugs and this leading to the beneficiaries holding their marks in less than the highest esteem is an old story but the interest lies within the details.

  41. jaime said on December 31st, 2007 at 3:04pm #

    Add another vote for “blood” from Hatuxka. Some peace activist.

  42. BlytheM. said on December 31st, 2007 at 6:47pm #

    A very informative article. Thank you.

    It is as though Israel realizes the futility of its actions and, as a result, is spending billions and employing legions of ‘thought police’ to build and maintain its Potemkin Village.

    Know that, progressive sites are being monitored, and that agent (state, foreign) provocateurs are engaged. This will help in keeping topics on point and avoiding ‘those with facetious arguments,’ who wish, by all means, not to be avoided.

    Cheers All.

  43. Hue Longer said on December 31st, 2007 at 7:24pm #

    jaime: “submit to us or YOU are the ones voting for blood”. Fair?

  44. Mulga Mumblebrain said on December 31st, 2007 at 8:49pm #

    The jaime phenomenon is instructive. While suspecting jaime might be a collective of judeofascist diehards, or a computer program replete with lies, furphies and general hasbara from that inexhaustible sewer, we have a responsibility to not shirk the battle. It is wearying to wade through the lies, distortions and non-sequiters ad nauseam, but we owe it to the Palestinians and, God knows, to the Israelis too. For as surely as night follows day Israel will dig its own grave if it refuses to compromise, as it has, unremittingly, since well before 1948. I’ve seen other blogs, The Guardian’s Comment is Free, for instance, overrun by Zionofascist die-hards, and the voices of reason swamped and eventually, apparently, discouraged. It takes perseverance to deal with deranged individuals, immune to facts or reason. It’s reminiscent of the situation of the ’6os and ’7os where, in this country at least, criticism of Israel’s lost love, apartheid South Africa was frowned upon, denounced as support for uncivilized ‘boongs’ and Communists and the media was 100% behind our fellow Whites, besieged, as they self-evidently were, by African primitives. Forums such as these are just about the last place criticism of Israel is allowed. In the mainstream media the Israeli position is taken without exception. Hamas are animals, Ahmadinejad wants to re-open Auschwitz, Israel is only interested in peace etc. If we allow the jaimes to pollute these blogs with their distaste for the historical record and their racist discourse where all Arabs, save compliant Quislings, usually ditched when no longer useful, like Abbas, are murderous monsters, and Israelis paragons of every virtue, then the truth will sink deeper into the mire. We are up against a fanatic mindset. jaime’s real milieu is Little Green Footballs or some Kahanist site, where the full glory of anti-Arab fundamentalism blooms. Not much fun there, ‘though. There everyone agrees Palestinian children are ‘suicide spawn’, and that Arabs are Amalekites and that Tehran must be nuked. Here jaime can indulge the Judeofascists’ pet fantasy of irredeemable, eternal goy hatred for the Jews. We are all, after all is said and done, merely pretending to be interested in the Palestinians. In truth, we just want to finish Hitler’s work, isn’t that so jaime? The hyper-paranoia of extreme racist, Rightwing Jews, sees the world as a dreadful, threatening place. How much is the understandable, but ruthlessly inculcated fear of another Judeocide, and how much fraudulent, utilising fear of genocide to cynically fashion an ideology of impunity for Israeli crimes, no matter how gross, only the Judeofascists could tell, and they’ve got a big problem with the facts.

  45. jaime said on January 1st, 2008 at 11:10am #

    “a big problem with the facts.”

    Whew…nice speech! Happy new year to you too!

    Well Mulga’s right about one thing anyway.

    I’m a computer program from an inexhaustible sewer. No he’s not imagining it.

    Meanwhile, and being as you all did SO well on the Blood or Ink test, let’s try multiple choice, and see who figures this one out.

    Jesus was

    1) Polish
    2) Fijian
    3) Icelandic
    4) Thai
    5) Jewish
    6) Inuit
    7) Croation
    8) All of the above
    9) none of the above

  46. Deadbeat said on January 1st, 2008 at 11:35pm #

    Last I looked Jesus is not oppressing and occupying Palestine.

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  48. ninjaDude said on January 2nd, 2008 at 9:13am #

    First of all, I’d like to thank Jaime for his discourse. The best way to work through a problem is through debate. Jaime is the dissident voice on dissident voice. Of course, one could do better than resorting to insults and name calling, but you work with what you get.
    I feel compelled to say that Jesus’ ethnicity has nothing to do with anything here.
    Jaime tries to define the solution to the problem in “black and white” terms. If you do not accede to Israeli demands (ink), you must support Judeocide (blood). The reality on the ground, however is a veritable morass of inky blood. Since the majority of the blood in this mix has been shed by Israel for Israel’s benefit, any equitable solution is going to involve some loss on Israel’s part. That the Zionists will fight tooth and nail to avoid this loss means that there will be pain as well. Pain for both sides. Blood for both sides.
    We cannot choose between ink and blood. The decision has already been made.

  49. jaime said on January 2nd, 2008 at 9:48am #

    And the answer is……

    Jesus was Polish.

    His Parents Wladislaw and Janowska Jakubowitz emigrated from Lublin in 1897, and relocated to Des Plaines Illinois, where Wladislaw found work in a shoe repair shop.

    Des Plaines is the home of the first McDonald’s opened by Ray Kroc, which is preserved as a “museum” on Lee Street, north of downtown.

  50. hp said on January 2nd, 2008 at 3:04pm #

    Actally Jesus was and is #9. Don’t you know anything about the truth?
    Jesus isn’t a body, He is a spirit soul. Not a Jew, not a Christian, not white, not black, not Chinese.
    A spirit soul.
    Just like you, Jaime.

  51. Zinists vote for Blood said on January 3rd, 2008 at 4:26am #

    “Huck Finn, do you mean to tell me you don’t know what a crusade is?”

    “No,” says I, “I don’t. And I don’t care to, nuther. I’ve lived till now and done without it, and had my health, too. But as soon as you tell me, I’ll know, and that’s soon enough. I don’t see any use in finding out things and clogging up my head with them when I mayn’t ever have any occasion to use ‘em. There was Lance Williams, he learned how to talk Choctaw here till one come and dug his grave for him. Now, then, what’s a crusade? But I can tell you one thing before you begin; if it’s a patent-right, there’s no money in it. Bill Thompson he –”

    “Patent-right!” says he. “I never see such an idiot. Why, a crusade is a kind of war.”

    I thought he must be losing his mind. But no, he was in real earnest, and went right on, perfectly ca’m.

    “A crusade is a war to recover the Holy Land from the paynim.”

    “Which Holy Land?”

    “Why, the Holy Land — there ain’t but one.”

    “What do we want of it?”

    “Why, can’t you understand? It’s in the hands of the paynim, and it’s our duty to take it away from them.”

    “How did we come to let them git hold of it?”

    “We didn’t come to let them git hold of it. They always had it.”

    “Why, Tom, then it must belong to them, don’t it?”

    “Why of course it does. Who said it didn’t?”

    I studied over it, but couldn’t seem to git at the right of it, no way. I says:

    “It’s too many for me, Tom Sawyer. If I had a farm and it was mine, and another person wanted it, would it be right for him to –”

    “Oh, shucks! you don’t know enough to come in when it rains, Huck Finn. It ain’t a farm, it’s entirely different. You see, it’s like this. They own the land, just the mere land, and that’s all they DO own; but it was our folks, our Jews and Christians, that made it holy, and so they haven’t any business to be there defiling it. It’s a shame, and we ought not to stand it a minute. We ought to march against them and take it away from them.”

    “Why, it does seem to me it’s the most mixed-up thing I ever see! Now, if I had a farm and another person –”

    “Don’t I tell you it hasn’t got anything to do with farming? Farming is business, just common low-down business: that’s all it is, it’s all you can say for it; but this is higher, this is religious, and totally different.”

    “Religious to go and take the land away from people that owns it?”

    “Certainly; it’s always been considered so.”

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  59. Laser said on April 21st, 2009 at 10:26am #

    The Arabs in Israel have a far better life than do their brothers in neighboring areas, such as the Palestinian Authority.

    Their salaries are higher, their educational opportunities are greater, their personal freedom is more extensive, their medical care is on a much higher level.

    You may recall the billions of dollars supplied to the Palestinian Authority, which could have used this money to improve the lot of their people. To build first-class hospitals, for example. To create employment opportunities. But instead they used the money to build villas for the PA chiefs and to stash away in Swiss bank accounts.

    Any racism that exists, exists only in the minds of the Israel bashers.

    Even the Arabs in Israeli jails — both Israeli citizens and foreign terrorists — enjoy free education, including studying in and getting degrees from the Open University.

    It is no surprise that when they are able to express themselves freely, many Palestinians declare that they would prefer to remain as at present and not to live under a Palestinian regime.

  60. Taz said on April 21st, 2009 at 10:34am #

    Laser, you may have failed to digest this even after forty years but let me break it down to you simply.

    The reason why Arabs in “Israel” have a “far better life” than their “brothers in neighbouring areas, such as the Palestinian Authority (sic. formulation noted!)” is because there has been an OCCUPATION forced upon those “neighbouring areas” by the generosity of the state of “Israel”.

    Far from aspiring for vibrancy in economic life, they only pray and hope for simple things like:

    - Israel shouldn’t bomb them out of the blue and level entire cities on the pretext of chasing terrorists.
    - That the myriad checkpoints which litter the West Bank and prevent them from even visiting relatives be removed.
    - That their children come back alive from school.
    -

  61. Laser said on April 22nd, 2009 at 8:07am #

    Dear Taz,

    I cannot understand why you people feel it necessary to insult. That hardly does anything to enhance your arguments. To enclose so many words in quotation marks also is not a sign of mastering the rules of punctuation.

    In any event, while I reject the nonsense you write about occupation and forcing such things, I think you must not be paying attention to what you write or to what I wrote. That their children come home alive from school – sure! It is the Gazan terror groups who target Israeli civilians on their way home fro school, as you surely know.

    The position of Israeli Arabs is far better than that of Arabs in ANY of the neighboring states. Not only in the jurisdiction of the PA. In fact, it is Lebanon that keeps these Arab refugees in camps, which I hope you do not think is a great humanitarian gesture.

    Even when they are in jail they are permitted to earn university degrees.

    You may have heard of Gilad Shalit, an Israeli in Hamas captivity. He is not permitted to earn a university degree by his terrorist captors.

    He has not even been permitted a single visit by the Red Cross, in violation of all international laws.

  62. Laser said on April 22nd, 2009 at 8:10am #

    The word myriad mans ten thousand, by the way, Taz.

    This dialog is valuable, if only because it helps you learn punctuation and improve your vocabulary.