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	<title>Comments on: Why AIPAC Took Over Brookings</title>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-33494</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this article with much interest. I find it to be credible and mostly accurate... accept for the stuff that is conveniently left out. I also find myself asking; so what? 

The conspiratorial tone is amusing; all that is needed is some scary music to go along with it. The envy comes through loud and clear and is actually kind of pathetic and sad.  As mentioned by others: What about the billions from Saudi Arabia that go to university &quot;Middle East Studies” departments to brainwash kids to hate Israel? And the millions that go to institutions like the Carter Center or the Jim Baker Institute.  I&#039;m actually happy and amazed that the pro-Israel message is able to compete with all those petro-dollars, with brains and innovation and far fewer resources. 

Indyk and Ross can hardly be considered hard-core pro-Israel. You want hard-core pro-Israel? That would be me and millions like me. I proudly plead guilty. I find Indyk and Ross to be snot-nose little policy wonks craving to be close to power. They would probably sell Israel down the river for an invitation to a White House cocktail party in a heartbeat. 

Get serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this article with much interest. I find it to be credible and mostly accurate&#8230; accept for the stuff that is conveniently left out. I also find myself asking; so what? </p>
<p>The conspiratorial tone is amusing; all that is needed is some scary music to go along with it. The envy comes through loud and clear and is actually kind of pathetic and sad.  As mentioned by others: What about the billions from Saudi Arabia that go to university &#8220;Middle East Studies” departments to brainwash kids to hate Israel? And the millions that go to institutions like the Carter Center or the Jim Baker Institute.  I&#8217;m actually happy and amazed that the pro-Israel message is able to compete with all those petro-dollars, with brains and innovation and far fewer resources. </p>
<p>Indyk and Ross can hardly be considered hard-core pro-Israel. You want hard-core pro-Israel? That would be me and millions like me. I proudly plead guilty. I find Indyk and Ross to be snot-nose little policy wonks craving to be close to power. They would probably sell Israel down the river for an invitation to a White House cocktail party in a heartbeat. </p>
<p>Get serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McNiven</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9654</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McNiven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salomon Banzimara, #7, in support of the Brookins, accused its opponents of having : &quot; ...perennial envy against those whose ideas seem to be embraced by the majority of Americans...&quot; 

Well, victims of capitalism/imperialism, all over the world, consider &quot;the majority of Americans&quot; as guilty! World-wide conducted opinion polls show that! Those who believe in &quot;peace with social justice&quot;  are protected against a disease called envy-- in Brookings terminology: &quot;competition&quot; ! Please keep your imperialist, a.k.a stolen, $$ for your lawyers because class action lawsuis by millions of non-&quot;majority&quot; Americans are forthcoming!

Zionism, Christian fundamentalism and Islamic fundamentalism are 
created by the imperialists, because they are great tools for the expansion and the preservation of the &quot;holy capital&quot;! (Please see the writings of professor Samir Amin on this subject. )
Saban center, being mindful of  the above factors, does not support the legitimate unconditional right of return of the Palestinan refugees to their homeland, but it supports unconditional negotiations with oil-rich Iran!  What Zionist Israel and the Islamic Republic of Iran have in common that they are both protected by the Brookins? Both are anti-socialist safe havens for the &quot;holy capital&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salomon Banzimara, #7, in support of the Brookins, accused its opponents of having : &#8221; &#8230;perennial envy against those whose ideas seem to be embraced by the majority of Americans&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>Well, victims of capitalism/imperialism, all over the world, consider &#8220;the majority of Americans&#8221; as guilty! World-wide conducted opinion polls show that! Those who believe in &#8220;peace with social justice&#8221;  are protected against a disease called envy&#8211; in Brookings terminology: &#8220;competition&#8221; ! Please keep your imperialist, a.k.a stolen, $$ for your lawyers because class action lawsuis by millions of non-&#8221;majority&#8221; Americans are forthcoming!</p>
<p>Zionism, Christian fundamentalism and Islamic fundamentalism are<br />
created by the imperialists, because they are great tools for the expansion and the preservation of the &#8220;holy capital&#8221;! (Please see the writings of professor Samir Amin on this subject. )<br />
Saban center, being mindful of  the above factors, does not support the legitimate unconditional right of return of the Palestinan refugees to their homeland, but it supports unconditional negotiations with oil-rich Iran!  What Zionist Israel and the Islamic Republic of Iran have in common that they are both protected by the Brookins? Both are anti-socialist safe havens for the &#8220;holy capital&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9623</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, the only source for this notion of &quot;war for oil nonsense&quot; seems to be James Petras.  So here&#039;s a thought experiment: say there is no oil or other resource &quot;worthy&quot; of extraction from the Middle East.  What then and why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, the only source for this notion of &#8220;war for oil nonsense&#8221; seems to be James Petras.  So here&#8217;s a thought experiment: say there is no oil or other resource &#8220;worthy&#8221; of extraction from the Middle East.  What then and why?</p>
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		<title>By: syed salamah ali mahdi</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9607</link>
		<dc:creator>syed salamah ali mahdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine Martyn Indik and Dennis Ross acting as &#039;honest&#039; (?) and/or &#039;impartial&#039; (?) brokers&#039; in the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations on behalf of US Administrations! When will Americans outside Washington DC wake up to what the AIPACS, OOPACS, SABAN&quot;S etc etc etc are really up to, none of which is in the BEST Interests of America. Perhaps only after the forthcoming Zionist instigated (mis)adventure in Iran! Then, it will be too late for the AIPACS, OOPACS, SABANS etc when there surely be a WAKE UP which will definitely not be TOO PLEASANT for them as well for Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine Martyn Indik and Dennis Ross acting as &#8216;honest&#8217; (?) and/or &#8216;impartial&#8217; (?) brokers&#8217; in the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations on behalf of US Administrations! When will Americans outside Washington DC wake up to what the AIPACS, OOPACS, SABAN&#8221;S etc etc etc are really up to, none of which is in the BEST Interests of America. Perhaps only after the forthcoming Zionist instigated (mis)adventure in Iran! Then, it will be too late for the AIPACS, OOPACS, SABANS etc when there surely be a WAKE UP which will definitely not be TOO PLEASANT for them as well for Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Concete man</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9597</link>
		<dc:creator>Concete man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a thorough rebuttal of the &quot;war for oil&quot; nonsense see: James Petras, &quot;Deadly Embrace&quot;, right here at Dissident Voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a thorough rebuttal of the &#8220;war for oil&#8221; nonsense see: James Petras, &#8220;Deadly Embrace&#8221;, right here at Dissident Voice.</p>
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		<title>By: Espresso</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9577</link>
		<dc:creator>Espresso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Smith,
Excellent article. FINALLY, people have woken up and are shining a light on this hijacking of American foreign policy by Zionist ideologues.  Now that the cork is finally out of the bottle the truth continues to flow ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Smith,<br />
Excellent article. FINALLY, people have woken up and are shining a light on this hijacking of American foreign policy by Zionist ideologues.  Now that the cork is finally out of the bottle the truth continues to flow &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: C. L. Cook</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9538</link>
		<dc:creator>C. L. Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there&#039;s been mention of it on this string, I missed mention of Pakistan. Just last Sunday, the American Enterprise Institute, in concert with Brookings, argued in the New York Times for the bombing of Pakistan!

[ Kalid Hasan, writing for the Pakistan&#039;s Daily Times says the American Enterprise Institute, core home of the Neo-con movement, and the Brookings Institution Sunday urged the United States launch &quot;pre-emptive&quot; attacks against Pakistan in an editorial printed in the New York Times.] link: http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007%5C11%5C19%5Cstory_19-11-2007_pg7_9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s been mention of it on this string, I missed mention of Pakistan. Just last Sunday, the American Enterprise Institute, in concert with Brookings, argued in the New York Times for the bombing of Pakistan!</p>
<p>[ Kalid Hasan, writing for the Pakistan's Daily Times says the American Enterprise Institute, core home of the Neo-con movement, and the Brookings Institution Sunday urged the United States launch "pre-emptive" attacks against Pakistan in an editorial printed in the New York Times.] link: <a href="http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007%5C11%5C19%5Cstory_19-11-2007_pg7_9" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007%5C11%5C19%5Cstory_19-11-2007_pg7_9</a></p>
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		<title>By: John McCarthy</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9535</link>
		<dc:creator>John McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a little light reading on Israel and the Middle East.

http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id798.html

Related articles are located in the left column.

Bests,
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a little light reading on Israel and the Middle East.</p>
<p><a href="http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id798.html" rel="nofollow">http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id798.html</a></p>
<p>Related articles are located in the left column.</p>
<p>Bests,<br />
John</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Tarnopol</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9517</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Tarnopol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the second comment, but I just wanted to point out that if anyone would like to check out my website, he or she will see that I am far from a Zionist stooge. Unless, of course, I am fooling everyone with a triple (quadruple? n-ple?) bluff.

If I&#039;m part of the international Zionist conspiracy, why am I not receiving any checks? I could use &#039;em. :)

Doug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the second comment, but I just wanted to point out that if anyone would like to check out my website, he or she will see that I am far from a Zionist stooge. Unless, of course, I am fooling everyone with a triple (quadruple? n-ple?) bluff.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m part of the international Zionist conspiracy, why am I not receiving any checks? I could use &#8216;em. :)</p>
<p>Doug</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Tarnopol</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9515</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Tarnopol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max is on the right track. As those noted Zionists Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky, among others, have argued, the case of Iraq (or Iran) is one of &quot;both/and&quot; vis-a-vis the Zionist lobby and the geopolitics of oil -- in addition to other causes. 

Now unless everyone here would like to prove to me that Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein&#039;s work -- millions of words at this point -- is simply due to their being privy to some diabolical AIPAC black-op, I think some of the more monocausally inclined on this string may want to peruse Chomsky&#039;s _Fateful Triangle_, for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max is on the right track. As those noted Zionists Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky, among others, have argued, the case of Iraq (or Iran) is one of &#8220;both/and&#8221; vis-a-vis the Zionist lobby and the geopolitics of oil &#8212; in addition to other causes. </p>
<p>Now unless everyone here would like to prove to me that Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein&#8217;s work &#8212; millions of words at this point &#8212; is simply due to their being privy to some diabolical AIPAC black-op, I think some of the more monocausally inclined on this string may want to peruse Chomsky&#8217;s _Fateful Triangle_, for example.</p>
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		<title>By: JoJO</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9495</link>
		<dc:creator>JoJO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Lenin&#039;s time-- Marx-If we get to control the telegraph operations--we will control all of Russia. For those obtuse posters---the whole Czar&#039;s family were slaughtered. Over 10 million christians slaughtered. WWI,W WII, Germany was used as an attack dog.  WWIII is about to happen.Again a new attack dogs are groomed--USA EU --again Russia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Lenin&#8217;s time&#8211; Marx-If we get to control the telegraph operations&#8211;we will control all of Russia. For those obtuse posters&#8212;the whole Czar&#8217;s family were slaughtered. Over 10 million christians slaughtered. WWI,W WII, Germany was used as an attack dog.  WWIII is about to happen.Again a new attack dogs are groomed&#8211;USA EU &#8211;again Russia</p>
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		<title>By: John Doraemi</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9483</link>
		<dc:creator>John Doraemi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How about the special treatment that Saudi fat cats got after 9-11 from the Bush administration? Where did all that info go?&quot;

Well let&#039;s certainly go into ALL the 9/11 issues.  There&#039;s URBAN MOVING SYSTEMS, a MOSSAD front where five agents were seen &quot;celebrating&quot; and with &quot;cries of joy and mockery&quot; the crash of Flight 11 into the North Tower.  Yes, they photographed themselves holding up a cigarette lighter with the burning WTC in the background.  Please let&#039;s do discuss what these agents of Israel were up to.

After the Urban Moving Systems crew were seen by a woman who called the police on them, an FBI &quot;Be on look out&quot; alert was sent to all the regional police departments at 3:31pm on 9/11/01.  The Israelis were caught in East Rutherford, NJ, and taken to FBI headquarters for interrogation.

They&#039;d still be in custody today, except the Bush regime made the matter &quot;classified&quot; and released the five agents back to Israel, quietly.

The owner of Urban Moving Systems fled the country after FBI quesitoned him, back to Israel as well.  The company was seized by investigators, and witnesses reported explosives and traces of anthrax in the UMS building.  Hazmat suits were worn by investigators at the Weehawken UMS facility. (Wayne Madsen, &lt;a href=&quot;http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/2007/06/israeli-art-students-and-movers-story.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Israeli Art Students and Movers Story&lt;/a&gt;).

There&#039;s also the matter of a van reportedly &quot;full of explosives&quot; stopped at the George Washington Bridge, as told to me by &lt;a href=&quot;http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/2007/09/corroborating-orwell-van-full-of.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dan Rather, CNN, and the Jerusalem Post&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How about the special treatment that Saudi fat cats got after 9-11 from the Bush administration? Where did all that info go?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well let&#8217;s certainly go into ALL the 9/11 issues.  There&#8217;s URBAN MOVING SYSTEMS, a MOSSAD front where five agents were seen &#8220;celebrating&#8221; and with &#8220;cries of joy and mockery&#8221; the crash of Flight 11 into the North Tower.  Yes, they photographed themselves holding up a cigarette lighter with the burning WTC in the background.  Please let&#8217;s do discuss what these agents of Israel were up to.</p>
<p>After the Urban Moving Systems crew were seen by a woman who called the police on them, an FBI &#8220;Be on look out&#8221; alert was sent to all the regional police departments at 3:31pm on 9/11/01.  The Israelis were caught in East Rutherford, NJ, and taken to FBI headquarters for interrogation.</p>
<p>They&#8217;d still be in custody today, except the Bush regime made the matter &#8220;classified&#8221; and released the five agents back to Israel, quietly.</p>
<p>The owner of Urban Moving Systems fled the country after FBI quesitoned him, back to Israel as well.  The company was seized by investigators, and witnesses reported explosives and traces of anthrax in the UMS building.  Hazmat suits were worn by investigators at the Weehawken UMS facility. (Wayne Madsen, <a href="http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/2007/06/israeli-art-students-and-movers-story.html" rel="nofollow">The Israeli Art Students and Movers Story</a>).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the matter of a van reportedly &#8220;full of explosives&#8221; stopped at the George Washington Bridge, as told to me by <a href="http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/2007/09/corroborating-orwell-van-full-of.html" rel="nofollow">Dan Rather, CNN, and the Jerusalem Post</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9478</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 23:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deadbeat, the issue is that yours (and Dan&#039;s) argument is purely ideological. As such historical world views must suit the ideology you embrace.

You cannot read my posts without filtering it through the prism of your ideology. I&#039;ve never posted anything that remotely apologizes for the US and Israel &quot;pathological&quot; (to self quote) relationship (read again). But that&#039;s never enough for an ideolgue; it must be the hard line or nothing.

Now Liz looks like she&#039;s at least making room for a broader scope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deadbeat, the issue is that yours (and Dan&#8217;s) argument is purely ideological. As such historical world views must suit the ideology you embrace.</p>
<p>You cannot read my posts without filtering it through the prism of your ideology. I&#8217;ve never posted anything that remotely apologizes for the US and Israel &#8220;pathological&#8221; (to self quote) relationship (read again). But that&#8217;s never enough for an ideolgue; it must be the hard line or nothing.</p>
<p>Now Liz looks like she&#8217;s at least making room for a broader scope.</p>
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		<title>By: dan elliott</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9462</link>
		<dc:creator>dan elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In lieu of further comment, let me just extend thanks &amp; props to Dr Deadbeat, &amp; post this email to my list, which contains some relevant points: 

Needed for the Dec 16 anti-AIPAC protest @ the Radisson Hotel: more &amp; better picket signs!

The words of the day are 1. Information; 2. Education. We need to take max advantage of this event &amp;  the media exposure to:

A) put the key points of our basic message before the public; 

B) do as much education as possible via print media.

C) offer info/education via  mini-PA, assuming they don&#039;t stop us from using it. (okay, go to the fallback plan: who&#039;s got a loud voice?:) 

If any Distinguished Speakers show up, we&#039;ll have them first, followed by Q&amp;A, then it&#039;ll be Open Mike as long as anybody is listening. but...

The Main Thing on my mind right now, is Picket Signs, or Banners, also flags, big blown up pictures, puppets/&quot;effigies&quot; etc. But SIGNS is the focus: a lot of info can be delivered by half a dozen signs of no more than four/five words, in lettering big enough to be read instantly from a passing car. Or in a TV crowd shot. 

A shot of a bunch of protesters which includes a few very to-the-point signs delivers a strong message; without the written word it&#039;s just a bunch of people, any purpose for them being gathered supplied by some hairsprayed anchorperson&#039;s &quot;voice-over&quot;.

Top Priority to me, are signs linking AIPAC &amp; the ZPC, (incl. local JCRC, Jewish Fed et al) to the War Budget, via the &quot;Iraqwar&quot;, push for bombing Iran etc. Linking War Budget billions to Katrina pennies, ethnic cleansing of New Orleans to same of Gaza. Linking AIPAC alliance with CUFI (Christians United For Isreal, i.e., Rev Hagee&#039;s klavern) to Jena 6. 

Holding the Demockrats accountable for not stopping Bush Admin crimes &amp; planned crimes. Exposing the Demo Pty subservience to AIPAC -- which is the whole point as I see it. &quot;Boycott Israel&quot;means boycott all manifestations of Zionism, which means boycott all Democrat politicians. The relatively &quot;good&quot; ones only provide cover for the rest of the bastards. Same applies to the David Cobb Demogreen phonies. 

Well I&#039;ll probably have to make that sign myself:) But it will take a lot of load off me if others will supply some good signs too. 

And maybe somebody besides me go into detail via a one-page informative flier or two? 

Okay, you got it:) 

now to put this on Indybay CV...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In lieu of further comment, let me just extend thanks &amp; props to Dr Deadbeat, &amp; post this email to my list, which contains some relevant points: </p>
<p>Needed for the Dec 16 anti-AIPAC protest @ the Radisson Hotel: more &amp; better picket signs!</p>
<p>The words of the day are 1. Information; 2. Education. We need to take max advantage of this event &amp;  the media exposure to:</p>
<p>A) put the key points of our basic message before the public; </p>
<p>B) do as much education as possible via print media.</p>
<p>C) offer info/education via  mini-PA, assuming they don&#8217;t stop us from using it. (okay, go to the fallback plan: who&#8217;s got a loud voice?:) </p>
<p>If any Distinguished Speakers show up, we&#8217;ll have them first, followed by Q&amp;A, then it&#8217;ll be Open Mike as long as anybody is listening. but&#8230;</p>
<p>The Main Thing on my mind right now, is Picket Signs, or Banners, also flags, big blown up pictures, puppets/&#8221;effigies&#8221; etc. But SIGNS is the focus: a lot of info can be delivered by half a dozen signs of no more than four/five words, in lettering big enough to be read instantly from a passing car. Or in a TV crowd shot. </p>
<p>A shot of a bunch of protesters which includes a few very to-the-point signs delivers a strong message; without the written word it&#8217;s just a bunch of people, any purpose for them being gathered supplied by some hairsprayed anchorperson&#8217;s &#8220;voice-over&#8221;.</p>
<p>Top Priority to me, are signs linking AIPAC &amp; the ZPC, (incl. local JCRC, Jewish Fed et al) to the War Budget, via the &#8220;Iraqwar&#8221;, push for bombing Iran etc. Linking War Budget billions to Katrina pennies, ethnic cleansing of New Orleans to same of Gaza. Linking AIPAC alliance with CUFI (Christians United For Isreal, i.e., Rev Hagee&#8217;s klavern) to Jena 6. </p>
<p>Holding the Demockrats accountable for not stopping Bush Admin crimes &amp; planned crimes. Exposing the Demo Pty subservience to AIPAC &#8212; which is the whole point as I see it. &#8220;Boycott Israel&#8221;means boycott all manifestations of Zionism, which means boycott all Democrat politicians. The relatively &#8220;good&#8221; ones only provide cover for the rest of the bastards. Same applies to the David Cobb Demogreen phonies. </p>
<p>Well I&#8217;ll probably have to make that sign myself:) But it will take a lot of load off me if others will supply some good signs too. </p>
<p>And maybe somebody besides me go into detail via a one-page informative flier or two? </p>
<p>Okay, you got it:) </p>
<p>now to put this on Indybay CV&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: liz burbank</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9459</link>
		<dc:creator>liz burbank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What this analysis elucidates yet again is that U.S. imperialism&#039;s crusade for global domination is inseparable from and undoable without its zionist proxy israel.

U.S. urgency is driven by a deep structural and conjunctural crisis. Historically such crfises have been [temporarily] resolved by restructuring capital &amp; the world map through imperialist world war.  This is the nature of the so-called &quot;war on terror&quot; to expand and secure U.S. global supremacy.
This fantasy final solution for  U.S. &#039;manifest destiny&#039; jibes geostrategically with its  proxy&#039;s &#039;eretz israel&#039;.

This is the only context in which the issue of oil, which has been deliberately obfuscated and misrepresented, can be correctly understood.  It &#039;s critical central is not for  domestic use supplies but because whoever controls M.E. energy / oil resources has overwhelming leverage over allies as well as enemies and thus [temporarily] world hegemony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What this analysis elucidates yet again is that U.S. imperialism&#8217;s crusade for global domination is inseparable from and undoable without its zionist proxy israel.</p>
<p>U.S. urgency is driven by a deep structural and conjunctural crisis. Historically such crfises have been [temporarily] resolved by restructuring capital &amp; the world map through imperialist world war.  This is the nature of the so-called &#8220;war on terror&#8221; to expand and secure U.S. global supremacy.<br />
This fantasy final solution for  U.S. &#8216;manifest destiny&#8217; jibes geostrategically with its  proxy&#8217;s &#8216;eretz israel&#8217;.</p>
<p>This is the only context in which the issue of oil, which has been deliberately obfuscated and misrepresented, can be correctly understood.  It &#8217;s critical central is not for  domestic use supplies but because whoever controls M.E. energy / oil resources has overwhelming leverage over allies as well as enemies and thus [temporarily] world hegemony.</p>
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		<title>By: GertrudeSteinInDrag</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9457</link>
		<dc:creator>GertrudeSteinInDrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benzimra wrote: 

&quot;&quot;It would certainly be more productive than dwelling in some sort of perennial envy against those whose ideas seem to be embraced by the majority of Americans.&quot;&quot;

cute Hasbara:  #1 says it; #2 &amp; #3 are paid to echo it to #s4-5000; suddenly, &quot;the majority......&quot;

When #1 has credibility, prestige, it&#039;s possible to cut out the middle man and go straight to #4-5000.

Example:  Colin Powell, podium of UN: &quot;Iraq has WMD.&quot;

Similarly, Michael O Hanlon serves the function of the next bought useful idiot.  Consider whats&#039;izname Wehner&#039;s ludicrous performance on C-Span 11/20/2007.

29 callers phoned in; 26 of them said to Wehner, &quot;You&#039;re an idiot, Wehner, and here are that facts that state why....&quot;  
Wehner&#039;s response to ten of those callers was,: &quot;You&#039;re wrong.&quot;
When that didn&#039;t seem to give traction, Wehner resorted to the &quot;O&#039;Hanlon said so, and he&#039;s a member of the left-leaning Brookings.....&quot;

So much for &quot;ideas that seem to be embraced by a majority of Americans.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benzimra wrote: </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;It would certainly be more productive than dwelling in some sort of perennial envy against those whose ideas seem to be embraced by the majority of Americans.&#8221;"</p>
<p>cute Hasbara:  #1 says it; #2 &amp; #3 are paid to echo it to #s4-5000; suddenly, &#8220;the majority&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>When #1 has credibility, prestige, it&#8217;s possible to cut out the middle man and go straight to #4-5000.</p>
<p>Example:  Colin Powell, podium of UN: &#8220;Iraq has WMD.&#8221;</p>
<p>Similarly, Michael O Hanlon serves the function of the next bought useful idiot.  Consider whats&#8217;izname Wehner&#8217;s ludicrous performance on C-Span 11/20/2007.</p>
<p>29 callers phoned in; 26 of them said to Wehner, &#8220;You&#8217;re an idiot, Wehner, and here are that facts that state why&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
Wehner&#8217;s response to ten of those callers was,: &#8220;You&#8217;re wrong.&#8221;<br />
When that didn&#8217;t seem to give traction, Wehner resorted to the &#8220;O&#8217;Hanlon said so, and he&#8217;s a member of the left-leaning Brookings&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>So much for &#8220;ideas that seem to be embraced by a majority of Americans.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9456</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Come on, Max, show us some documentation that Big Oil is pushing for an attack on Iran, or pushed for W’s 2003 attack on Iraq, or is pushing for continuation of US occupation of that country. Tell us how Big Oil is twisting the Israeli’s arms to get them to ethnically cleanse Gaza.&lt;/i&gt;

I concur.  James Petras most recent series of articles has offered evidence that the oil companies were against the invasion of Iraq and are definitely against the invasion of Iran.  Mr. Shields has offered only conjecture.  Sure oil has been the reason previous coups.  The overthrow of Iran 1953 was about Iran&#039;s nationalization of oil.  However the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and the possible invasion of Iran today are not for the same reasons.  

Unfortunately Mr. Shields has been rhetorically conflating oil as the basis for the invasion in order to conceal or divert attention away from Zionism.  In fact Mr. Shields also uses another rhetorical slant and that is to dismiss any mention of Zionism as Israel controlling U.S. policy. This is suppose to sound absurd and therefore dismissive.   But what it is designed to do is avoid the analyzing the role Zionism plays as a racist ideology that has been allowed to dominate U.S. foreign policy as well as U.S. culture.

Grant Smith&#039;s article adds more evidence to the corruption of U.S. society by Zionism.  Unfortunately the left has not been untouched by Zionism and their are folks who are determine to divert the issue away from discussing and analyzing the putrid effects Zionism has on U.S. society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Come on, Max, show us some documentation that Big Oil is pushing for an attack on Iran, or pushed for W’s 2003 attack on Iraq, or is pushing for continuation of US occupation of that country. Tell us how Big Oil is twisting the Israeli’s arms to get them to ethnically cleanse Gaza.</i></p>
<p>I concur.  James Petras most recent series of articles has offered evidence that the oil companies were against the invasion of Iraq and are definitely against the invasion of Iran.  Mr. Shields has offered only conjecture.  Sure oil has been the reason previous coups.  The overthrow of Iran 1953 was about Iran&#8217;s nationalization of oil.  However the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and the possible invasion of Iran today are not for the same reasons.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately Mr. Shields has been rhetorically conflating oil as the basis for the invasion in order to conceal or divert attention away from Zionism.  In fact Mr. Shields also uses another rhetorical slant and that is to dismiss any mention of Zionism as Israel controlling U.S. policy. This is suppose to sound absurd and therefore dismissive.   But what it is designed to do is avoid the analyzing the role Zionism plays as a racist ideology that has been allowed to dominate U.S. foreign policy as well as U.S. culture.</p>
<p>Grant Smith&#8217;s article adds more evidence to the corruption of U.S. society by Zionism.  Unfortunately the left has not been untouched by Zionism and their are folks who are determine to divert the issue away from discussing and analyzing the putrid effects Zionism has on U.S. society.</p>
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		<title>By: Eliyahu</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9455</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliyahu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to the Saudi billions or trillions and their influence on US Middle Eastern policy? What happened to the fat speaking fees that jimmy carter and bill clinton and other US officials pick up in rich Persian Gulf states and in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia? What about the millions of Arab dollars that are donated to US universities [ie, Georgetown] for the purpose of influencing American public opinion? Doesn&#039;t Grant Smith know that Prince Bandar, former Saudi ambassador to the US, was a pal of Pres George Bush Junior? How about the special treatment that Saudi fat cats got after 9-11 from the Bush administration? Where did all that info go? How do the Saudi factor and the Arab oil money factor fit in with Smith&#039;s tendentious screed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to the Saudi billions or trillions and their influence on US Middle Eastern policy? What happened to the fat speaking fees that jimmy carter and bill clinton and other US officials pick up in rich Persian Gulf states and in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia? What about the millions of Arab dollars that are donated to US universities [ie, Georgetown] for the purpose of influencing American public opinion? Doesn&#8217;t Grant Smith know that Prince Bandar, former Saudi ambassador to the US, was a pal of Pres George Bush Junior? How about the special treatment that Saudi fat cats got after 9-11 from the Bush administration? Where did all that info go? How do the Saudi factor and the Arab oil money factor fit in with Smith&#8217;s tendentious screed?</p>
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		<title>By: IRmep</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9449</link>
		<dc:creator>IRmep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone can do the homework.  It is on the record:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.brookings.edu

Through the end of 2001, Internet Archive front page/articles at Brookings caution against the invasion of Iraq and urge a policy of deterrance.

After the Saban acquisition, the tide turns.

Coincidence?  You decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone can do the homework.  It is on the record:</p>
<p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/</a>*/http://www.brookings.edu</p>
<p>Through the end of 2001, Internet Archive front page/articles at Brookings caution against the invasion of Iraq and urge a policy of deterrance.</p>
<p>After the Saban acquisition, the tide turns.</p>
<p>Coincidence?  You decide.</p>
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		<title>By: Salomon Benzimra</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/why-aipac-took-over-brookings/#comment-9442</link>
		<dc:creator>Salomon Benzimra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grant Smith didn&#039;t do his home work.  Had he read the articles and publications of Martin Indyk, Dennis Ross, David Makovsky and others, he would realize that WINEP and the Brookings Institution are not exactly populated by ferocious defenders of Israel.

What seems to rankle the author is that Brookings represents 17% of the think tanks in America.  So what?  If he and his &quot;progressive left-leaning&quot; allies can do better, by all means....do it!  It would certainly be more productive than dwelling in some sort of perennial envy against those whose ideas seem to be embraced by the majority of Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grant Smith didn&#8217;t do his home work.  Had he read the articles and publications of Martin Indyk, Dennis Ross, David Makovsky and others, he would realize that WINEP and the Brookings Institution are not exactly populated by ferocious defenders of Israel.</p>
<p>What seems to rankle the author is that Brookings represents 17% of the think tanks in America.  So what?  If he and his &#8220;progressive left-leaning&#8221; allies can do better, by all means&#8230;.do it!  It would certainly be more productive than dwelling in some sort of perennial envy against those whose ideas seem to be embraced by the majority of Americans.</p>
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