Comments on: US Economy–Recession, Depression, or Collapse? http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/us-economy%e2%80%93recession-depression-or-collapse/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:46:26 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: robert l. pistole http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/us-economy%e2%80%93recession-depression-or-collapse/#comment-16330 robert l. pistole Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:22:46 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/us-economy%e2%80%93recession-depression-or-collapse/#comment-16330 very interesting and stimulating. would like to know more. thx. very interesting and stimulating. would like to know more. thx.

]]> By: Dan Prozk http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/us-economy%e2%80%93recession-depression-or-collapse/#comment-10392 Dan Prozk Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:42:53 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/us-economy%e2%80%93recession-depression-or-collapse/#comment-10392 The factis is that US economy will collapse, no matter what, because it is to late to fix it. The truth is that all Imperial nations dissapers under it's own corruption , greed and denial of self-destruction. History shows how all former powers collpased and it is full of examples, but human character remains unchanged over times. Collpased power always did think: this will not happen to us because we are different! No future leader, call them presidential candidate, Senator, CEO, media owner, ect, has the courage to mention the possibility of an economic collapse when so many signs proves it true; so denial is the first sign that confirms the fact. Ask the banks what would they do when people rush to get out their savings? same answer: denial. I have seen the collapse of south american economies and some in Africa, and the steps confirm the facts. We are too close to the edge. I have sold already all my assets in the US (I still leave here) my savings are in Europe and new bussines have been started in third world countries. I will hang on and then run away when the great dreadful day arrrives. will you wait? The factis is that US economy will collapse, no matter what, because it is to late to fix it. The truth is that all Imperial nations dissapers under it’s own corruption , greed and denial of self-destruction. History shows how all former powers collpased and it is full of examples, but human character remains unchanged over times. Collpased power always did think: this will not happen to us because we are different! No future leader, call them presidential candidate, Senator, CEO, media owner, ect, has the courage to mention the possibility of an economic collapse when so many signs proves it true; so denial is the first sign that confirms the fact. Ask the banks what would they do when people rush to get out their savings? same answer: denial.
I have seen the collapse of south american economies and some in Africa, and the steps confirm the facts. We are too close to the edge. I have sold already all my assets in the US (I still leave here) my savings are in Europe and new bussines have been started in third world countries. I will hang on and then run away when the great dreadful day arrrives. will you wait?

]]> By: AJ Nasreddin http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/us-economy%e2%80%93recession-depression-or-collapse/#comment-9216 AJ Nasreddin Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:46:54 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/us-economy%e2%80%93recession-depression-or-collapse/#comment-9216 If the US economy collapses, that'll be more bad news for the environment. Poor countries usually have a poor regard for the environment - and America with its bulk could be really bad news. If the US economy collapses, that’ll be more bad news for the environment. Poor countries usually have a poor regard for the environment – and America with its bulk could be really bad news.

]]> By: Concete man http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/us-economy%e2%80%93recession-depression-or-collapse/#comment-9163 Concete man Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:54:32 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/us-economy%e2%80%93recession-depression-or-collapse/#comment-9163 Not to make excuses for the masses of people who should be more responsible for their consumptive and wasteful behavior, but this piece is typical "blame the victim" with no mention of why Heinberg does not talk about the Zionist Power Configuration and how it blocks substantive reform of our insane economy and poltical system. Until we get rid of Zionist Controlled Congress/Media/Left etc., we will be hearing over and over about "war for oil" instead of WAR FOR ISRAEL. Not to make excuses for the masses of people who should be more responsible for their consumptive and wasteful behavior, but this piece is typical “blame the victim” with no mention of why Heinberg does not talk about the Zionist Power Configuration and how it blocks substantive reform of our insane economy and poltical system. Until we get rid of Zionist Controlled Congress/Media/Left etc., we will be hearing over and over about “war for oil” instead of WAR FOR ISRAEL.

]]> By: Irish Bear http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/us-economy%e2%80%93recession-depression-or-collapse/#comment-9077 Irish Bear Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:32:31 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/us-economy%e2%80%93recession-depression-or-collapse/#comment-9077 I think he mentioned the lack of corporate context, among other things, in the 4th paragraph. However, you shouldn't let that which you cannot control prevent you from doing that which you can. Of course you are probably not on an equal destructive par with your standard American corporate retailer; I missed the part where he equated his intended audience with "corporate overlords". But I'm not sure what this has to do with what I believe is his main point. Something like "stop buying stuff from your corporate overlords because you are responsible for that." I think he mentioned the lack of corporate context, among other things, in the 4th paragraph.

However, you shouldn’t let that which you cannot control prevent you from doing that which you can. Of course you are probably not on an equal destructive par with your standard American corporate retailer; I missed the part where he equated his intended audience with “corporate overlords”. But I’m not sure what this has to do with what I believe is his main point. Something like “stop buying stuff from your corporate overlords because you are responsible for that.”

]]> By: Eric http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/us-economy%e2%80%93recession-depression-or-collapse/#comment-9074 Eric Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:19:42 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/us-economy%e2%80%93recession-depression-or-collapse/#comment-9074 In what sense did Russia "recover"? Still, aggreeing with this article, one has to admit that the stage is set for a multiple fascist state economy(a police state in the US where the constitution is being negatively amended continually and fascism in Russia with the Putin youth, or Nashi), the dream economy for corporations, who already thrive in developing countries on the same iron fist policy of minimal legislation, minimal human rights and maximum instability. They manipulate us into it, and we share the guilt for having no backbone to resist it (like simply not overconsuming and not participating in any war or political ideology). If you want a phoenix to rise, you will have to let it burn down, and still the solution is not of our understanding, since any change will bring another generation of corrupt humans to power. In what sense did Russia “recover”? Still, aggreeing with this article, one has to admit that the stage is set for a multiple fascist state economy(a police state in the US where the constitution is being negatively amended continually and fascism in Russia with the Putin youth, or Nashi), the dream economy for corporations, who already thrive in developing countries on the same iron fist policy of minimal legislation, minimal human rights and maximum instability. They manipulate us into it, and we share the guilt for having no backbone to resist it (like simply not overconsuming and not participating in any war or political ideology). If you want a phoenix to rise, you will have to let it burn down, and still the solution is not of our understanding, since any change will bring another generation of corrupt humans to power.

]]> By: Michael Dawson http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/us-economy%e2%80%93recession-depression-or-collapse/#comment-9068 Michael Dawson Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:03:24 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/us-economy%e2%80%93recession-depression-or-collapse/#comment-9068 "Most of the US population continues destructive, over-consuming behaviors that harm all of us. We are not merely victims of the problems; we cause them." Where is your explanation of corporate power and the profound ways in which it forces and limits our choices? I don't see any such analysis in your piece here. Do you really think people can or will change anything without recognizing the power structure? Are "we" all equal in our influence? In the destructiveness of our choices? People may be uninformed, but they are never going to listen to a harangue that equates all of "us" with our corporate overlords and money-grubbing millionaire politicians. “Most of the US population continues destructive, over-consuming behaviors that harm all of us. We are not merely victims of the problems; we cause them.”

Where is your explanation of corporate power and the profound ways in which it forces and limits our choices? I don’t see any such analysis in your piece here. Do you really think people can or will change anything without recognizing the power structure? Are “we” all equal in our influence? In the destructiveness of our choices?

People may be uninformed, but they are never going to listen to a harangue that equates all of “us” with our corporate overlords and money-grubbing millionaire politicians.

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