As I see it, Isreal’s long wanted goal of destroying Iraq simply worked well with America’s goal for getting more oil.

Also, I’ve heard from several experts and State Dept. employees that Americans don’t have any policy in the Middle East – it just follows Isreal’s lead.

You’re dreaming in technicolor, Bro!
What the blue blazes would they do with Mauritania? And who wants Afghanistan?
Is this something you just make up, or do others write about it too?

Joe-the-lawyer-Man learned to get the money while masquerading in fancy Italian suits as a champion for truth, justice, and mercy.

Now, Joe has the solution to all the chaos, lack of democracy and water, and murder in Iraq.

Let’s divide the whole place up into small entities that Israel will not find too dis-tasteful or too offensive.

Joe represents Israel and Delaware in The US Senate.

Nobody knows how much money Lawyerman-Joe Biden gets from his really big bucks Israeli clients.

ATTORNEYS’ FEES ARE CONFIDENTIAL. IT’S THE LAW.

That financial genius Greenspun was just keeping us barking up the wrong tree?
Again?

And all that rampant agit prop about peak oil, peak oil…

Only Adolph Hitler and three other crazies believed in conspiracies, so you can’t even think conspiracy about all this propaganda.

It is spontaneous and caused by space aliens who want to abuse our children.

Zionists wouldn’t hurt a Spanish fly, or flea either.

Regardless of Olmert’s reasons to say this (boost the sagging fortunes for Bushco, prolong and maintain the occupation) one must accept it as official Israel position leading to the conclusion that the war was imposed on the American people just like it was imposed on the Iraqis, for the benefit of the ..beneficiaries, by design and not by coincidence. Besides, one could argue, even from a pro Israel American Jew standpoint, whether killing hundred of thousands and causing millions of refugee, is good for Israel, in the long run. The sheer amount of ill will this invasion created will have a lasting fissure.

The time will come when American Jews will have to make a choice between America & Israel

That assessment is incorrect. The “anti-zionist” believe that the neo-zionist (aka moderates) use “war for oil” to conceal how Zionism within the U.S. influence U.S. policy. The neo-Zionist have used two lines:

[1] The war is ALL about oil.
[2] The war is ALL about imperialism.

Both lines have been countered by the following:

[1] The oil industry did not support the war and are record being against the war

[2] The war in the Middle East actually works against U.S. imperialistic interest. A better case for access to Middle East oil would have been a coup rather than a war costing the nation billions. However a coup would mean leaving Iraq’s infrastructure intact which would lead to their continue growth and economic strength. Thus destroying Iraq better served interest other than that of the U.S. interest.

There are no “traps” here Max other than the ones you set.

I think you’ve put provided the specifics nexus without falling into these traps.

Your rhetoric is wearing thin also the label “anti-semitic” since many Palestinians are themselves too semitic people. Thus by definition the Israeli “state” itself is “anti-semitic”. The fact is that Arabs in Israel are not treated as full citizens and Israel itself is a “Jim Crow” nation. IMO it is worst than South Africa

Let’s look at some of is screed.”

Followed by nothing even remotely anti-semitic.

Then you offer this nugget:

“The Palestinians have been suffering occupation, true..but not because of their religion or ethnicity. It’s because they’ve been attacking Israel and Jews. And apartheid is an inaccurate description and a deliberately demonizing one too. ”

Following this logic, I could say that because one black guy punched me once, all black people have punched me and should be punished accordingly.
BUT WAIT
That would make me a worthless fucking racist. Whoops.
Also, what would it take to make the situation apartheid, in your eyes?

a·part·heid n.
1 An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, involving political, legal, and economic discrimination against nonwhites.
2 A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups.
3 The condition of being separated from others; segregation.

I don’t know what you call a giant fucking fence, but I’d say that’s seperation. The U.N. and everyone else in the world without a vested interest in raping Palestineans agree. Add to that the annexation of Palestinean lands, water theft, murder, kidnapping, salting the earth, and a million other racist crimes and you’ve got quite a bit of ethnically-motivated evil. Please, enlighten me as to how Israel is not an apartheid state.

Did you think Reagan was doing a great job vetoing sanctions against South Africa?

Look, I think oil is the more important factor in these conflicts, but it’s difficult to look at the people behind PNAC and the Clean Break and not see an inordinate number of dual US/Israeli citizens who are also fervent Zionists. This is not about “the Jews”: This is about far-right politics in Israel and America controlling foreign policy. The neocons in both countries have seized power, and critics are afraid to identify the powerful because they will be accused of antisemitism.

But again, I must stress this is not about “Jews”. This is about Likud/Republican extremists co-opting American foreign policy. Read the PNAC/Clean Break documents for yourself. Almost everything outlined in those documents has come to pass in the last seven years, and the people who wrote them are steering the ship.

9/11 Commission executive director Philip Zelikow on the invasion of Iraq:

“Finally. . . I wanted to offer some comments on Iraq. . . . I beg your patience, but I think there are some points that are worth making that aren’t being made by either side in the current debate….

Third. The unstated threat. And here I criticise the [Bush] administration a little, because the argument that they make over and over again is that this is about a threat to the United States. And then everybody says: ‘Show me an imminent threat from Iraq to America. Show me, why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us?’ So I’ll tell you what I think the real threat is, and actually has been since 1990. It’s the threat against Israel. And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don’t care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn’t want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it’s not a popular sell.”

jaime, maybe you’ve never heard of the Project for a New American Century, or the Clean Break Doctrine?

Our elected representatives are for sale to the highest bidder/lobbyist.

Lobbying is an integral part of the governmental process.

Lawyer/Senators and lawyer Congress people toil diligently for their paying clients.

Zionist money has purchased most of the US Senate and much of the House.

Zionist Senator Joe Lieberman can introduce completely bonkers “resolutions” to commit “outright murder against innocent people” and receive overwhelming support from his Senate colleagues.

“Way it’s posta be.”

The system is working perfectly for both the incumbents and their paying clients.

The Palestinians are dying because they can’t come up with the required retainer.

Supernation gives Israel more than 3 billion in aid for sophisticated weapons to help kill the Palestinians.

Zionists wanted Iraq destroyed and they got their wish.

“It’s about the oil. ”

Yes, that too.