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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/of-hampster-wheels-and-men/#comment-7151</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  You must read if you have not already &quot;Confessions of an Economic Hitman&quot; by John Perkins, or &quot;Illicit&quot; by Moises Niam, or &quot;Development as Freedon&quot; By Amartya Sen...maybe you have!

There is so much said here on the mark and so much undetermined.  Capitalism in itself is much like power in itself, it is not in itself an evil, it becomes one in the hands of those who use it most for self serving purposes.  Since the beginning of time capitalism has been a way of life, it has made survival possible, a good example is Japan, who has very few natural resources and is codependant on a capitalist system, like the way of the inhabitants once who were on the Easter Islands .  (Reminds me another good book is Jerrod Diamonds &quot;Collapse&quot;)  

The best point though that Mr Sullivan has made is &quot;Democracy and justice are too important to entrust to politicians who serve money, rather than people and the public welfare. &quot;, which is why the American constitution was drafted...the temptation to list everything this current administration has done that is questionable is not needed, one just has to look at the index of contraversies;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:George_W._Bush_administration_controversies
or read Al Gores book &quot;Attack on Reason&quot; .

No, I am not a book seller, but the informatin is available to the public, still will not get it in the so called &quot;free press&quot; and why? because the corporatocracy owns the press, see (Bill)  &quot;Moyers on America&quot;  if you only know about Murdoch buying the WSJ!  The press is the only industry specifically protected by the Constitution for a reason, because with out free speech, and a free press, no one is held accountable, and the facts provided can be disasterous to a nation, as Sen reminds us, it can even cause famine, or global climate changes for which we are unprepared.

A friend of mine said once at the beginning of the Iraq invasion in 2003, &quot;it&#039;s all about economics isnt it?&quot; You see the press and administration wanted the public to believe it was all about terrorism, but it was about oil; it was about Saddam allowing contracts to France and Russia to develop its major oil reserves and leaving the US out of it, of course the embargo put a hold on those developments; but when Kofi Annan said the war was &quot;illegal&quot; the administration was quick to disclose the food-for-oil scandal. And of course, very little press coverage came out after Volkers investigation about Chevron with Condeleeza Rice on its board at the time, who was taking advantage and gaining from those favors, oh ,they were slapped on their hand with a fine.  

And this ongoing insurgency and occupation in Iraq continues as we give Maliki benchmarks to get his administration on the same page, which would be the page that has the vaguely mentioned &quot;oil laws&quot; which are production sharing agreements which are to give the western privitized oil companies rights to develop and take a large percentage of the profits robbing the Iraqi people of their only natural resource.  Those resuorces  with which they could make agreements between the factions and get their oil on the market (bringing the price down again) and bringing the factins all on the same page with each other.  They could rebuild their own infrastructure with the money they make in profits,.  They once had a multiple representative cabinet beneath Saddam, free education and a good infrastructure according to Ambassador Edward Peck who served in Iraq 1977 - 1980, (I didn&#039;t read his book I went to hear him still check my sources; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Peck, 

Between illicit gun and ammunition sales, expensive no bied government contracts with contructions groups like Betchel, G.E. Haliburton KBR, and Blackwater, the business of terrorism is quite lucrative for those who stand to gain, and all one has to do is follow the Money, or look up the members and ideas of &quot;The New American Century&quot; ; http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

What the administration seems to overlook in the pyramid scheme, the biggest ponzi ever, is that it takes international investors in the US and tax payers. Without jobs there is no taxpayers, there is no one affording mortgages, there is no one funding the occupation of major contractors in foreign countries, there is no initiative for foriegners to come here and seek opportunity and citizenship, there is nothing, but what Greenspan said...&quot;a big sucking sound&quot;

Yes, the only way American people can redeem themselves is to impeach this administration, not just wait for their time to run out and someone else to get control and benefit of the underhanded dealings, with which another politician can be bought out...and we really need to draft Gore into running again. Oh I wish...

And we should not think we are alone, but we the people need to organize...the corporatocracy wants us to feel isolated and threatened, and unpatriotic or socialistic, they want to control our minds with a sense of hopelessness, but there is hope...we are not just a few who are wanting change, I neve thought I would see an article like this
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071003/ap_on_re_us/secessionist_movement_1
You will have to dig for it now...the press is quick in covering up such 
adverse ideas to the corporatocracy...

having gone on longer than planned here I want ot thank Mr Sullivan for his expressions and another reader for pointing it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  You must read if you have not already &#8220;Confessions of an Economic Hitman&#8221; by John Perkins, or &#8220;Illicit&#8221; by Moises Niam, or &#8220;Development as Freedon&#8221; By Amartya Sen&#8230;maybe you have!</p>
<p>There is so much said here on the mark and so much undetermined.  Capitalism in itself is much like power in itself, it is not in itself an evil, it becomes one in the hands of those who use it most for self serving purposes.  Since the beginning of time capitalism has been a way of life, it has made survival possible, a good example is Japan, who has very few natural resources and is codependant on a capitalist system, like the way of the inhabitants once who were on the Easter Islands .  (Reminds me another good book is Jerrod Diamonds &#8220;Collapse&#8221;)  </p>
<p>The best point though that Mr Sullivan has made is &#8220;Democracy and justice are too important to entrust to politicians who serve money, rather than people and the public welfare. &#8220;, which is why the American constitution was drafted&#8230;the temptation to list everything this current administration has done that is questionable is not needed, one just has to look at the index of contraversies;<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:George_W._Bush_administration_controversies" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:George_W._Bush_administration_controversies</a><br />
or read Al Gores book &#8220;Attack on Reason&#8221; .</p>
<p>No, I am not a book seller, but the informatin is available to the public, still will not get it in the so called &#8220;free press&#8221; and why? because the corporatocracy owns the press, see (Bill)  &#8220;Moyers on America&#8221;  if you only know about Murdoch buying the WSJ!  The press is the only industry specifically protected by the Constitution for a reason, because with out free speech, and a free press, no one is held accountable, and the facts provided can be disasterous to a nation, as Sen reminds us, it can even cause famine, or global climate changes for which we are unprepared.</p>
<p>A friend of mine said once at the beginning of the Iraq invasion in 2003, &#8220;it&#8217;s all about economics isnt it?&#8221; You see the press and administration wanted the public to believe it was all about terrorism, but it was about oil; it was about Saddam allowing contracts to France and Russia to develop its major oil reserves and leaving the US out of it, of course the embargo put a hold on those developments; but when Kofi Annan said the war was &#8220;illegal&#8221; the administration was quick to disclose the food-for-oil scandal. And of course, very little press coverage came out after Volkers investigation about Chevron with Condeleeza Rice on its board at the time, who was taking advantage and gaining from those favors, oh ,they were slapped on their hand with a fine.  </p>
<p>And this ongoing insurgency and occupation in Iraq continues as we give Maliki benchmarks to get his administration on the same page, which would be the page that has the vaguely mentioned &#8220;oil laws&#8221; which are production sharing agreements which are to give the western privitized oil companies rights to develop and take a large percentage of the profits robbing the Iraqi people of their only natural resource.  Those resuorces  with which they could make agreements between the factions and get their oil on the market (bringing the price down again) and bringing the factins all on the same page with each other.  They could rebuild their own infrastructure with the money they make in profits,.  They once had a multiple representative cabinet beneath Saddam, free education and a good infrastructure according to Ambassador Edward Peck who served in Iraq 1977 &#8211; 1980, (I didn&#8217;t read his book I went to hear him still check my sources; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Peck" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Peck</a>, </p>
<p>Between illicit gun and ammunition sales, expensive no bied government contracts with contructions groups like Betchel, G.E. Haliburton KBR, and Blackwater, the business of terrorism is quite lucrative for those who stand to gain, and all one has to do is follow the Money, or look up the members and ideas of &#8220;The New American Century&#8221; ; <a href="http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm</a></p>
<p>What the administration seems to overlook in the pyramid scheme, the biggest ponzi ever, is that it takes international investors in the US and tax payers. Without jobs there is no taxpayers, there is no one affording mortgages, there is no one funding the occupation of major contractors in foreign countries, there is no initiative for foriegners to come here and seek opportunity and citizenship, there is nothing, but what Greenspan said&#8230;&#8221;a big sucking sound&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, the only way American people can redeem themselves is to impeach this administration, not just wait for their time to run out and someone else to get control and benefit of the underhanded dealings, with which another politician can be bought out&#8230;and we really need to draft Gore into running again. Oh I wish&#8230;</p>
<p>And we should not think we are alone, but we the people need to organize&#8230;the corporatocracy wants us to feel isolated and threatened, and unpatriotic or socialistic, they want to control our minds with a sense of hopelessness, but there is hope&#8230;we are not just a few who are wanting change, I neve thought I would see an article like this<br />
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071003/ap_on_re_us/secessionist_movement_1" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071003/ap_on_re_us/secessionist_movement_1</a><br />
You will have to dig for it now&#8230;the press is quick in covering up such<br />
adverse ideas to the corporatocracy&#8230;</p>
<p>having gone on longer than planned here I want ot thank Mr Sullivan for his expressions and another reader for pointing it out.</p>
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		<title>By: David Gaines</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/of-hampster-wheels-and-men/#comment-7051</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gaines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the editors:  &quot;hampster&quot; should be &quot;hamster.&quot;  This is from someone who has three of them happily spinning in their wheels (literally, not figuratively) as I write this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the editors:  &#8220;hampster&#8221; should be &#8220;hamster.&#8221;  This is from someone who has three of them happily spinning in their wheels (literally, not figuratively) as I write this.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/of-hampster-wheels-and-men/#comment-7036</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Our&quot; collective tolerance or injustice has to do with the fact that the United States lacks any sense of solidarity and working class conscience.  This is why racism and Zionism has to be challenge as the FIRST way to build solidarity and to weaken division among the working class.

Once that occurs then capitalism can be challenged.  Overcoming racism is why there is a lot more solidarity among the people of Latin America and why they are in a much stronger position to challenge capitalism.  Unfortunately, many &quot;left-wing&quot; writer do not consider the challenges of racism in their analysis and how bridging that divide weakens any form of organizing that is needed to build a mass movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Our&#8221; collective tolerance or injustice has to do with the fact that the United States lacks any sense of solidarity and working class conscience.  This is why racism and Zionism has to be challenge as the FIRST way to build solidarity and to weaken division among the working class.</p>
<p>Once that occurs then capitalism can be challenged.  Overcoming racism is why there is a lot more solidarity among the people of Latin America and why they are in a much stronger position to challenge capitalism.  Unfortunately, many &#8220;left-wing&#8221; writer do not consider the challenges of racism in their analysis and how bridging that divide weakens any form of organizing that is needed to build a mass movement.</p>
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		<title>By: gerald spezio</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/of-hampster-wheels-and-men/#comment-7019</link>
		<dc:creator>gerald spezio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Sullivan seems to be a nice fellow.
When he occupies the streets any day now, I sure hope that he brings his nature photography equipment.
He can whump the 101st Airborne Assholes over their boneheads, and give them what for.
Mr Sullivan appeals for courage and and conviction.
Courage,  conviction, and fighting spirit are very nice.
The Holy Ghost is a spirit, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Sullivan seems to be a nice fellow.<br />
When he occupies the streets any day now, I sure hope that he brings his nature photography equipment.<br />
He can whump the 101st Airborne Assholes over their boneheads, and give them what for.<br />
Mr Sullivan appeals for courage and and conviction.<br />
Courage,  conviction, and fighting spirit are very nice.<br />
The Holy Ghost is a spirit, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: corylus</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/of-hampster-wheels-and-men/#comment-6977</link>
		<dc:creator>corylus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments so far are predictable, emanating from the types of American capitalism-enslaved zombies of which Sullivan writes.  The opinion that the  likelihood of slaughter, rape, pillage, greed, and war crimes as a result of an American-Israeli attack on Iran is an example of hubris is absurd: does anyone doubt that the corporate-military global hegemony plans of the neoconservatives and their willing facilitators will lead to unforetold misery for all but those responsible?  Get real - the American power structure will ensure that anyone who gets in its way of accumulating the bitter end of the earth&#039;s resources will suffer.  As for Ron Paul and the rest of the corporate-owned politicians, they&#039;re all part of a morally and ethically bankrupt system that continues to feed the delusion of choice to the masses.  I don&#039;t have a prediction, and I surely don&#039;t have any answers, but capitalism and the American electoral system aren&#039;t even remotely in the picture of a just and equitable future for the world, its beleaguered environment, and the few humans who might survive to effect a sustainable society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments so far are predictable, emanating from the types of American capitalism-enslaved zombies of which Sullivan writes.  The opinion that the  likelihood of slaughter, rape, pillage, greed, and war crimes as a result of an American-Israeli attack on Iran is an example of hubris is absurd: does anyone doubt that the corporate-military global hegemony plans of the neoconservatives and their willing facilitators will lead to unforetold misery for all but those responsible?  Get real &#8211; the American power structure will ensure that anyone who gets in its way of accumulating the bitter end of the earth&#8217;s resources will suffer.  As for Ron Paul and the rest of the corporate-owned politicians, they&#8217;re all part of a morally and ethically bankrupt system that continues to feed the delusion of choice to the masses.  I don&#8217;t have a prediction, and I surely don&#8217;t have any answers, but capitalism and the American electoral system aren&#8217;t even remotely in the picture of a just and equitable future for the world, its beleaguered environment, and the few humans who might survive to effect a sustainable society.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/of-hampster-wheels-and-men/#comment-6967</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could not imagine a more classic example of American hubris than  Mr Sullivan&#039;s assumption that the result of a US attack on Iran will be that &quot;[b]oth the U.S. and Israel will consolidate their power in the Middle East&quot;! Of course! The master race has to win! The US lost in Vietnam and is now losing in both Iraq and Afghanistan, but it will win against Iran!

A far more likely outcome is that an attack on Iran will be the final coup de grace for America&#039;s crumbling superpower status and will accelerate the ongoing decline of the US economy, breaking its stranglehold on the world economy. A bumpy ride for Americans but a gaint boon for the rest of us in the big, wide world.

My guess is that Dubya is trying to set things up for Jeb to run in 2012. He needs a Democrat in the White House in 2008 but he also needs to saddle that person with such a mess that he, or more likely, she will be unable to &quot;fix&quot; America and can be blamed for it in the 2012 campaign. Like Daddybird&#039;s lame duck invasion of Somalia in December 1992, I would guess that Junior (whose whole existence is marked by his awe of the old man) will launch a small-scale air attack on Iran with carrier-based planes in the period between November 2008 and January 2009. Not enough to cost many American lives, but just enough to rile up the whole planet. He will then declare victory and leave ... office! Leaving the poisoned chalice to POTUS 44!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not imagine a more classic example of American hubris than  Mr Sullivan&#8217;s assumption that the result of a US attack on Iran will be that &#8220;[b]oth the U.S. and Israel will consolidate their power in the Middle East&#8221;! Of course! The master race has to win! The US lost in Vietnam and is now losing in both Iraq and Afghanistan, but it will win against Iran!</p>
<p>A far more likely outcome is that an attack on Iran will be the final coup de grace for America&#8217;s crumbling superpower status and will accelerate the ongoing decline of the US economy, breaking its stranglehold on the world economy. A bumpy ride for Americans but a gaint boon for the rest of us in the big, wide world.</p>
<p>My guess is that Dubya is trying to set things up for Jeb to run in 2012. He needs a Democrat in the White House in 2008 but he also needs to saddle that person with such a mess that he, or more likely, she will be unable to &#8220;fix&#8221; America and can be blamed for it in the 2012 campaign. Like Daddybird&#8217;s lame duck invasion of Somalia in December 1992, I would guess that Junior (whose whole existence is marked by his awe of the old man) will launch a small-scale air attack on Iran with carrier-based planes in the period between November 2008 and January 2009. Not enough to cost many American lives, but just enough to rile up the whole planet. He will then declare victory and leave &#8230; office! Leaving the poisoned chalice to POTUS 44!</p>
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		<title>By: Rey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/of-hampster-wheels-and-men/#comment-6963</link>
		<dc:creator>Rey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RON PAUL!! AMERICAN PEOPLE&quot;S SPECIAL INTEREST!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RON PAUL!! AMERICAN PEOPLE&#8221;S SPECIAL INTEREST!!</p>
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		<title>By: AnAppealToHeaven</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/of-hampster-wheels-and-men/#comment-6959</link>
		<dc:creator>AnAppealToHeaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul denies lobbiests.  He won&#039;t allow them in his office.

Fred Thompson was a lobbiest.

Ron Paul will win.  

Mitt Romney will become GQ&#039;s little Miss America.

RON PAUL 2008!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul denies lobbiests.  He won&#8217;t allow them in his office.</p>
<p>Fred Thompson was a lobbiest.</p>
<p>Ron Paul will win.  </p>
<p>Mitt Romney will become GQ&#8217;s little Miss America.</p>
<p>RON PAUL 2008!</p>
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