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		<title>By: Mike McNiven</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/a-global-satyagraha-against-imperialism/#comment-7116</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McNiven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please remember People of Iran too! They are caught between a &quot;petty ruthless dictator&quot; and the bosses of the author of those three words!

http://www.iranpressnews.com/english/source/030750.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please remember People of Iran too! They are caught between a &#8220;petty ruthless dictator&#8221; and the bosses of the author of those three words!</p>
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		<title>By: iyamwutiam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/a-global-satyagraha-against-imperialism/#comment-6952</link>
		<dc:creator>iyamwutiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article - a couple of non-zionist propaganda points.

1. Saddam Hussein moved to Euros - in 2000 - due to the exhorbitant reparations, sanctions. Hmm- moving off the US dollar can get you killed.  But invading the adjacent oil rich country will allow you to live and keep your job as US puppet dictator.

2. Iran moved off the US dollar in 2005 - 
3. Russia is slowly moving off it 

You have already discussed Venezuela.  In addition - a few more salient points - the four countries in the world that do not have central banks - are Syria, North Korea, Iran and once Iraq.  So you see there is more to the axis of evil than evil.

Dollar Hegemoney is here to stay- as far as the western powers are concerned.  The reason is quite simple - the Europeans have such an incestuous financial relationship in the rigged global fiancial system that they are polluted with US dollars and US debt (Contagion) beyond belief -as NortRock, BNP PAribas and several German banks hve shown.No wonder - they have had a &#039;sudden&#039; change of heart reagrding the evil of Iran and the &#039;threat&#039; it represents.

Beforwe anyone says &#039;China&quot; - please REMEMBER that China holds debt- you can not buy anything with debt!!!  Otherwise with their so called one trillion dollars - they would have bought themselves some central asian republics, and started their own &#039;internatinal&#039; bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article &#8211; a couple of non-zionist propaganda points.</p>
<p>1. Saddam Hussein moved to Euros &#8211; in 2000 &#8211; due to the exhorbitant reparations, sanctions. Hmm- moving off the US dollar can get you killed.  But invading the adjacent oil rich country will allow you to live and keep your job as US puppet dictator.</p>
<p>2. Iran moved off the US dollar in 2005 &#8211;<br />
3. Russia is slowly moving off it </p>
<p>You have already discussed Venezuela.  In addition &#8211; a few more salient points &#8211; the four countries in the world that do not have central banks &#8211; are Syria, North Korea, Iran and once Iraq.  So you see there is more to the axis of evil than evil.</p>
<p>Dollar Hegemoney is here to stay- as far as the western powers are concerned.  The reason is quite simple &#8211; the Europeans have such an incestuous financial relationship in the rigged global fiancial system that they are polluted with US dollars and US debt (Contagion) beyond belief -as NortRock, BNP PAribas and several German banks hve shown.No wonder &#8211; they have had a &#8217;sudden&#8217; change of heart reagrding the evil of Iran and the &#8216;threat&#8217; it represents.</p>
<p>Beforwe anyone says &#8216;China&#8221; &#8211; please REMEMBER that China holds debt- you can not buy anything with debt!!!  Otherwise with their so called one trillion dollars &#8211; they would have bought themselves some central asian republics, and started their own &#8216;internatinal&#8217; bank.</p>
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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/a-global-satyagraha-against-imperialism/#comment-6910</link>
		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans and citizen of those countries where are giving services to worse than fascist imperialist/Zionist in Iraq and Sudan and elsewhere must  GO ON STRIKE EVERY TUESEDAY UNTIL WORSE THAN FASCISTS GET OUT OF IRAQ AND THE MIDDLE EAST.
Zionists and servants of the Zionism, Bush and associates, carrying out a destabilization project in Sudan, the biggest country in the continent of Africa with a lot of natural resources, through building phony minorities such as “black African” against “white Arab” to destabilize yet another Islamic country under spurious charge “child slavery” in southern Sudan where was directed by James Jacob a famous Zionist pro Israel a few years ago and “genocide in Darfur” now.  Expose the Zionist lies and their puppets

http://bazabaza.blogspot.com/2006/05/boston-area-zionists-organizing-for.html

http://www.green-rainbow.org/pipermail/locals/2006-November/001959.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans and citizen of those countries where are giving services to worse than fascist imperialist/Zionist in Iraq and Sudan and elsewhere must  GO ON STRIKE EVERY TUESEDAY UNTIL WORSE THAN FASCISTS GET OUT OF IRAQ AND THE MIDDLE EAST.<br />
Zionists and servants of the Zionism, Bush and associates, carrying out a destabilization project in Sudan, the biggest country in the continent of Africa with a lot of natural resources, through building phony minorities such as “black African” against “white Arab” to destabilize yet another Islamic country under spurious charge “child slavery” in southern Sudan where was directed by James Jacob a famous Zionist pro Israel a few years ago and “genocide in Darfur” now.  Expose the Zionist lies and their puppets</p>
<p><a href="http://bazabaza.blogspot.com/2006/05/boston-area-zionists-organizing-for.html" rel="nofollow">http://bazabaza.blogspot.com/2006/05/boston-area-zionists-organizing-for.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.green-rainbow.org/pipermail/locals/2006-November/001959.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.green-rainbow.org/pipermail/locals/2006-November/001959.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jaime</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/a-global-satyagraha-against-imperialism/#comment-6861</link>
		<dc:creator>jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow......David Irving &#039;s your hero! Good choice.  It&#039;s actually hard to find a  modern  neo-Nazi propagandist, Holocaust denier and just plain all around bigot as disgraced as Irving.

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;&#8230;David Irving &#8217;s your hero! Good choice.  It&#8217;s actually hard to find a  modern  neo-Nazi propagandist, Holocaust denier and just plain all around bigot as disgraced as Irving.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/</a></p>
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		<title>By: sk</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/a-global-satyagraha-against-imperialism/#comment-6852</link>
		<dc:creator>sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The term &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Politicide-Ariel-Sharons-Against-Palestinians/dp/1859845177&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;politicide&#039;&lt;/a&gt; may be a more exact term to describe what&#039;s being done to the Palestinians. This is how Baruch Kimmerling defined it:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
By politicide I mean a process that has, as its ultimate goal, the dissolution of the Palestinian people&#039;s existence as a legitimate social, political, and economic entity. This process may also but not necessarily include their partial or complete ethnic cleansing from the territory known as the Land of Israel.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Politicide-Ariel-Sharons-Against-Palestinians/dp/1859845177" rel="nofollow">&#8216;politicide&#8217;</a> may be a more exact term to describe what&#8217;s being done to the Palestinians. This is how Baruch Kimmerling defined it:</p>
<blockquote><p>
By politicide I mean a process that has, as its ultimate goal, the dissolution of the Palestinian people&#8217;s existence as a legitimate social, political, and economic entity. This process may also but not necessarily include their partial or complete ethnic cleansing from the territory known as the Land of Israel.
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		<title>By: ashley</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/a-global-satyagraha-against-imperialism/#comment-6848</link>
		<dc:creator>ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Holocaust deniers &#039;deserve&#039; 10 years imprisonment, Dr. Gideon, for questioning highly questionable facts and figures (a large portion of which are now acknowledged to be incorrect) then surely anyone denying any of the other holocausts you list should be subject to the same?

Of course the answer is that nobody should be imprisoned for expressing or publishing opinions, especially the the latter since they are open to discussion, refutation and so forth. 

Fact is: the vast majority of eyewitness testimony first gathered for the victor-administered post-war show-trials are now acknowledged by even the official historians in Israeli Holocaust institutions to be false.  Simply put: every single one of the hundreds of testimonies &#039;witnessing&#039; the gassings in any camp in old Germany proper are now known to be 100% false. None of these eyewitnesses has been prosecuted even though many were executed based on this false testimony. Given the huge degree of falsity involved in such testimonies, it is no wonder that many reasonable people question similar unsubstantiated &#039;eyewitness&#039; testimonies in places like Auschwitz where again the official numbers have been revised - again by official Jewish historians - from 10 to 4 and now to around 1 millions. Given that the official truth has continuously been changing, why is it that those who challenge the story are incarcerated? 

Time to admit the simple truth: although no doubt many bad things happened, including outright atrocities, there is as yet no solid basis for the entire Holocaust narrative. If there is one, produce it. You cannot because it simply is not there. The only official records from Red Cross and Russian archives totally contradict the mainstream narrative and there are simply no other verifiable records whatsoever to substantiate the story. 

Interestingly enough, it is the maligned David Irving who is now putting forth the most creditable explanation wherein many areas in Poland including Treblinka and suchlike were the places for mass executions (not by gas) and which were covered up afterwards. The only problem? A scientific survey of Treblinka recently definitively proved that there has been no disturbance of the soil such as would have occurred with mass graves or huge incinerators and so forth, so even Irving&#039;s new story has yet to be substantiated. 

What I have written above has nothing to do with Holocaust Denial per se, rather it is an invitation for anyone with actual, substantive, documented or scientific proof to attest to something that has yet to be demonstrated as anything other than atrocity propaganda, something that has often occurred in the past and no doubt will often occur in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Holocaust deniers &#8216;deserve&#8217; 10 years imprisonment, Dr. Gideon, for questioning highly questionable facts and figures (a large portion of which are now acknowledged to be incorrect) then surely anyone denying any of the other holocausts you list should be subject to the same?</p>
<p>Of course the answer is that nobody should be imprisoned for expressing or publishing opinions, especially the the latter since they are open to discussion, refutation and so forth. </p>
<p>Fact is: the vast majority of eyewitness testimony first gathered for the victor-administered post-war show-trials are now acknowledged by even the official historians in Israeli Holocaust institutions to be false.  Simply put: every single one of the hundreds of testimonies &#8216;witnessing&#8217; the gassings in any camp in old Germany proper are now known to be 100% false. None of these eyewitnesses has been prosecuted even though many were executed based on this false testimony. Given the huge degree of falsity involved in such testimonies, it is no wonder that many reasonable people question similar unsubstantiated &#8216;eyewitness&#8217; testimonies in places like Auschwitz where again the official numbers have been revised &#8211; again by official Jewish historians &#8211; from 10 to 4 and now to around 1 millions. Given that the official truth has continuously been changing, why is it that those who challenge the story are incarcerated? </p>
<p>Time to admit the simple truth: although no doubt many bad things happened, including outright atrocities, there is as yet no solid basis for the entire Holocaust narrative. If there is one, produce it. You cannot because it simply is not there. The only official records from Red Cross and Russian archives totally contradict the mainstream narrative and there are simply no other verifiable records whatsoever to substantiate the story. </p>
<p>Interestingly enough, it is the maligned David Irving who is now putting forth the most creditable explanation wherein many areas in Poland including Treblinka and suchlike were the places for mass executions (not by gas) and which were covered up afterwards. The only problem? A scientific survey of Treblinka recently definitively proved that there has been no disturbance of the soil such as would have occurred with mass graves or huge incinerators and so forth, so even Irving&#8217;s new story has yet to be substantiated. </p>
<p>What I have written above has nothing to do with Holocaust Denial per se, rather it is an invitation for anyone with actual, substantive, documented or scientific proof to attest to something that has yet to be demonstrated as anything other than atrocity propaganda, something that has often occurred in the past and no doubt will often occur in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Gideon Polya</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/a-global-satyagraha-against-imperialism/#comment-6825</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Gideon Polya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rohini, congratulations on your excellent article about Gandhi, Satyagraha and the Palestinian Genocide – an outstanding argument for peaceful approaches (Sanctions and Boycotts) required to stop the Racist Zionist and  Racist Bush-ite Asian Holocaust  (no wonder it elicited the standard pro-Zionist obfuscation, unsubstantiated assertions and falsehoods). 

Indeed last year the 6th anniversary of the 9/11 atrocity was also the 100th Anniversary of the founding of the non-violent Satyagraha  Movement  by the Mahatma Gandhi in Johannesburg in 1906 (literally &quot;truth hold&quot;, in his own words &quot;truth force&quot;, &quot;truth soul&quot;, &quot;soul force&quot;) - but of course this anniversary was used by the Racist Zionists (RZs) to spread a message of lies, hatred, racism, mass murder, genocide and 21st century holocaust.

Why peace is the only way and why Sanctions, Boycotts, US$ to EURO switch etc are needed to STOP Racist Zionists and Racist-Bush-ites in their tracks:

1.  Palestinian Genocide,  Palestinian Holocaust -  (25,000 Jews and 500,000 non-Jewish Palestinians in the Holy land in 1880; 0.30 million post-1967 Palestinian excess deaths; 7 million refugees, 4 million Occupied Palestinians kidnapped, imprisoned in an Apartheid Israel Concentration Camp, now for 0ver 40 years; the Racist Zionists passively murder 2,400 under-5 year old Occupied Palestinian infants EACH YEAR) (see &quot;Palestinian Genocide&quot;: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/13415/42/ ).

2. Iraqi Genocide, Iraq Holocaust - 0.2 million Gulf War violent deaths; 1.7 million Sanctions War excess deaths; 2.0 million 2003-2007 Iraq War excess deaths (including 1.2 million violent deaths) - an Iraq Genocide totalling 3.9 million victims; 4 .3 million refugees (see: http://www.countercurrents.org/polya021007.htm  ).

3. Afghan Genocide, Afghan Holocaust - 3.2 million post-invasion Afghan excess deaths; violent deaths not quantitated; 3.7 million refugees (see:  http://www.newsvine.com/anti-arab-anti-semitism ). 


For non-Orwellians 2 plus 2 equals 4, and the above elements of this  latter-day Racist Zionist and racist Bush-ite Semitic Holocaust (yes, Palestinians and most Iraqis are Semites and virtually all have a Semitic-origin, Islamic culture) and indubitable Asian Holocaust (excess deaths in cowardly, racist US post-1950 Asian Wars now total about 20 million) the total of items 1-3 is an horrendous 7.4 million – more than  the number of victims of the Jewish Holocaust (5 million murdered by the Nazis, 1 million dying from deprivation).

Of course anyone denying the Jewish Holocaust will deservedly face 10 years in prison in Austria and lengthy custodial sentences elsewhere in Europe - but 7 decades  on from the start of the Jewish Holocaust,   the Racist Zionist and Racist Bush-ites are engaged in cowardly, racist, mass paedocidal Holocaust Commission and Holocaust Denial.

Comprehensive international and intra-national Sanctions and Boycotts are urgently needed before these latter-day Nazis (democratic Nazis) similarly devastate peaceful and remote Iran (population over 70 million, mostly Women and Children).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rohini, congratulations on your excellent article about Gandhi, Satyagraha and the Palestinian Genocide – an outstanding argument for peaceful approaches (Sanctions and Boycotts) required to stop the Racist Zionist and  Racist Bush-ite Asian Holocaust  (no wonder it elicited the standard pro-Zionist obfuscation, unsubstantiated assertions and falsehoods). </p>
<p>Indeed last year the 6th anniversary of the 9/11 atrocity was also the 100th Anniversary of the founding of the non-violent Satyagraha  Movement  by the Mahatma Gandhi in Johannesburg in 1906 (literally &#8220;truth hold&#8221;, in his own words &#8220;truth force&#8221;, &#8220;truth soul&#8221;, &#8220;soul force&#8221;) &#8211; but of course this anniversary was used by the Racist Zionists (RZs) to spread a message of lies, hatred, racism, mass murder, genocide and 21st century holocaust.</p>
<p>Why peace is the only way and why Sanctions, Boycotts, US$ to EURO switch etc are needed to STOP Racist Zionists and Racist-Bush-ites in their tracks:</p>
<p>1.  Palestinian Genocide,  Palestinian Holocaust &#8211;  (25,000 Jews and 500,000 non-Jewish Palestinians in the Holy land in 1880; 0.30 million post-1967 Palestinian excess deaths; 7 million refugees, 4 million Occupied Palestinians kidnapped, imprisoned in an Apartheid Israel Concentration Camp, now for 0ver 40 years; the Racist Zionists passively murder 2,400 under-5 year old Occupied Palestinian infants EACH YEAR) (see &#8220;Palestinian Genocide&#8221;: <a href="http://mwcnews.net/content/view/13415/42/" rel="nofollow">http://mwcnews.net/content/view/13415/42/</a> ).</p>
<p>2. Iraqi Genocide, Iraq Holocaust &#8211; 0.2 million Gulf War violent deaths; 1.7 million Sanctions War excess deaths; 2.0 million 2003-2007 Iraq War excess deaths (including 1.2 million violent deaths) &#8211; an Iraq Genocide totalling 3.9 million victims; 4 .3 million refugees (see: <a href="http://www.countercurrents.org/polya021007.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.countercurrents.org/polya021007.htm</a>  ).</p>
<p>3. Afghan Genocide, Afghan Holocaust &#8211; 3.2 million post-invasion Afghan excess deaths; violent deaths not quantitated; 3.7 million refugees (see:  <a href="http://www.newsvine.com/anti-arab-anti-semitism" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsvine.com/anti-arab-anti-semitism</a> ). </p>
<p>For non-Orwellians 2 plus 2 equals 4, and the above elements of this  latter-day Racist Zionist and racist Bush-ite Semitic Holocaust (yes, Palestinians and most Iraqis are Semites and virtually all have a Semitic-origin, Islamic culture) and indubitable Asian Holocaust (excess deaths in cowardly, racist US post-1950 Asian Wars now total about 20 million) the total of items 1-3 is an horrendous 7.4 million – more than  the number of victims of the Jewish Holocaust (5 million murdered by the Nazis, 1 million dying from deprivation).</p>
<p>Of course anyone denying the Jewish Holocaust will deservedly face 10 years in prison in Austria and lengthy custodial sentences elsewhere in Europe &#8211; but 7 decades  on from the start of the Jewish Holocaust,   the Racist Zionist and Racist Bush-ites are engaged in cowardly, racist, mass paedocidal Holocaust Commission and Holocaust Denial.</p>
<p>Comprehensive international and intra-national Sanctions and Boycotts are urgently needed before these latter-day Nazis (democratic Nazis) similarly devastate peaceful and remote Iran (population over 70 million, mostly Women and Children).</p>
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		<title>By: CS</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/a-global-satyagraha-against-imperialism/#comment-6795</link>
		<dc:creator>CS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does &quot;independant&quot; scholar means?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does &#8220;independant&#8221; scholar means?</p>
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		<title>By: jaime</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/a-global-satyagraha-against-imperialism/#comment-6792</link>
		<dc:creator>jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please help.

&quot;...Jewish birth right commit war crimes in Palestine and elsewhere...&quot;

Which elsewhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please help.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Jewish birth right commit war crimes in Palestine and elsewhere&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Which elsewhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/a-global-satyagraha-against-imperialism/#comment-6775</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaime: 
You seem to be well versed into Mossad / AIPAC disinformation campaigns in defense of a Jewish birth  right commit war crimes in Palestine and elsewhere.  Look, we both know this conversation is futile.  As Norman Finkelstein would put it &quot;I&#039;m struck by how uncomplicated  the Israeli Palestine Conflict. The is no longer much contention among scholars on the historical record...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaime:<br />
You seem to be well versed into Mossad / AIPAC disinformation campaigns in defense of a Jewish birth  right commit war crimes in Palestine and elsewhere.  Look, we both know this conversation is futile.  As Norman Finkelstein would put it &#8220;I&#8217;m struck by how uncomplicated  the Israeli Palestine Conflict. The is no longer much contention among scholars on the historical record&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jaime</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/a-global-satyagraha-against-imperialism/#comment-6774</link>
		<dc:creator>jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did I lie about? These are all historical facts. 

Here&#039;s another piece of weirdness in the article:

&quot;...the long-standing Zionist plan to wipe Palestine off the map...&quot;

This is a paranoid  fantasy. The israelis and palestinians are negotiating over what the contours of the new and official palestinian state could look like. Or at least the West Bank part. Gaza&#039;s already established territory-wise, but the Hamas aren&#039;t into making an accord with the abbas regime, and may not do so for the foreseeable future.  There&#039;s been talk about the israelis handing over control of 92% of the west bank, saving some areas for the major population blocks already in place...then handing over parts of the Negev or elsewhere to make up the difference in land mass. 

Things have stalled lately because Abbas seems to be insisting on the 1967 lines. But that&#039;s a deal breaker. The Israelis would never go back to the old   &quot;Auschwitz&quot; borders. So things could be hung up for some time to come. 

My own view is that the Jews in the West bank shouldn&#039;t have to evacuate, but should receive Palestinian citizenship ans have dual status in both countries without having to uproot and resettle.
There are no Jews in Gaza, except for a few prisoners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did I lie about? These are all historical facts. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another piece of weirdness in the article:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;the long-standing Zionist plan to wipe Palestine off the map&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a paranoid  fantasy. The israelis and palestinians are negotiating over what the contours of the new and official palestinian state could look like. Or at least the West Bank part. Gaza&#8217;s already established territory-wise, but the Hamas aren&#8217;t into making an accord with the abbas regime, and may not do so for the foreseeable future.  There&#8217;s been talk about the israelis handing over control of 92% of the west bank, saving some areas for the major population blocks already in place&#8230;then handing over parts of the Negev or elsewhere to make up the difference in land mass. </p>
<p>Things have stalled lately because Abbas seems to be insisting on the 1967 lines. But that&#8217;s a deal breaker. The Israelis would never go back to the old   &#8220;Auschwitz&#8221; borders. So things could be hung up for some time to come. </p>
<p>My own view is that the Jews in the West bank shouldn&#8217;t have to evacuate, but should receive Palestinian citizenship ans have dual status in both countries without having to uproot and resettle.<br />
There are no Jews in Gaza, except for a few prisoners.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re a lying zio!</description>
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		<title>By: jaime</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/a-global-satyagraha-against-imperialism/#comment-6744</link>
		<dc:creator>jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another one...

&quot;...More recently, the occupation of the West bank and Gaza after the 1967 war, the division of the West Bank into a series of ghettoes by the apartheid wall, and the conversion of the Gaza strip into one big ghetto, has exposed the long-standing Zionist plan to wipe Palestine off the map....&quot;

The 1991 Oslo agreements began a process of winding down the post 1967 war occupation, and up until Arafat&#039;s intifada of 2000, the Palestinian areas were increasingly self-administered. However with the recommencement of hostilities, notably terror bombings in Israel by Palestinian extremists, an occupation was re-imposed and the separation wall erected.  At the peak of  the Palestinian hostilities,  buses, schools, market places and restaurants and civilian facilities   were attacked. Often in Northern Israel, often killings Arabs as well as Jews indiscriminately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another one&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;More recently, the occupation of the West bank and Gaza after the 1967 war, the division of the West Bank into a series of ghettoes by the apartheid wall, and the conversion of the Gaza strip into one big ghetto, has exposed the long-standing Zionist plan to wipe Palestine off the map&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>The 1991 Oslo agreements began a process of winding down the post 1967 war occupation, and up until Arafat&#8217;s intifada of 2000, the Palestinian areas were increasingly self-administered. However with the recommencement of hostilities, notably terror bombings in Israel by Palestinian extremists, an occupation was re-imposed and the separation wall erected.  At the peak of  the Palestinian hostilities,  buses, schools, market places and restaurants and civilian facilities   were attacked. Often in Northern Israel, often killings Arabs as well as Jews indiscriminately.</p>
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		<title>By: jaime</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/a-global-satyagraha-against-imperialism/#comment-6743</link>
		<dc:creator>jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another howler.

&quot;...As in Apartheid South Africa, discrimination against non-Jews is inscribed in Israeli law. But unlike the South African regime, the Israeli regime wishes to eliminate the non-Jewish indigenous population altogether....&quot;

Not at all. Arabic is one of Israel&#039;s official languages and ethnic or religious discrimination is AGAINST the law. Fully 20% of the population of Isreal is Arab Palestinian and they are integrated into the larger population.  The accusation of  ethnic cleansing just another  vicious libel in this propaganda screed..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another howler.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;As in Apartheid South Africa, discrimination against non-Jews is inscribed in Israeli law. But unlike the South African regime, the Israeli regime wishes to eliminate the non-Jewish indigenous population altogether&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not at all. Arabic is one of Israel&#8217;s official languages and ethnic or religious discrimination is AGAINST the law. Fully 20% of the population of Isreal is Arab Palestinian and they are integrated into the larger population.  The accusation of  ethnic cleansing just another  vicious libel in this propaganda screed..</p>
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		<title>By: jaime</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/a-global-satyagraha-against-imperialism/#comment-6742</link>
		<dc:creator>jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a ton of errors in this piece. Here&#039;s the first 2

&quot;...the advent of European Zionism — a colonial enterprise promoted by the British Raj in the 19th century — ignited conflict by dispossessing Palestinian peasants of the land they were cultivating....&quot;

Wow, somebody&#039;s smokin&#039; something great!
Historically this is what is known as a &quot;clean miss.&quot;

The Jews that first returned to the Middle east in the late 19th century were substantially from Eastern Europe. Also until after WW1  the area was administered by Turkey as part of the Ottoman empire. No Palestinians were &quot;dispossessed&quot; of their lands. When these new arrivals came THEY BOUGHT LAND TO SETTLE ON.  The locals happily sold the newcomers plots of land. Much of it untillable. The area that eventually became today&#039;s Tel-Aviv was a malarial swamp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a ton of errors in this piece. Here&#8217;s the first 2</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;the advent of European Zionism — a colonial enterprise promoted by the British Raj in the 19th century — ignited conflict by dispossessing Palestinian peasants of the land they were cultivating&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, somebody&#8217;s smokin&#8217; something great!<br />
Historically this is what is known as a &#8220;clean miss.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Jews that first returned to the Middle east in the late 19th century were substantially from Eastern Europe. Also until after WW1  the area was administered by Turkey as part of the Ottoman empire. No Palestinians were &#8220;dispossessed&#8221; of their lands. When these new arrivals came THEY BOUGHT LAND TO SETTLE ON.  The locals happily sold the newcomers plots of land. Much of it untillable. The area that eventually became today&#8217;s Tel-Aviv was a malarial swamp.</p>
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