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	<title>Comments on: How the Bush Administration&#8217;s Iraqi Oil Grab Went Awry</title>
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		<title>By: Ceri Cat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/how-the-bush-administrations-iraqi-oil-grab-went-awry/#comment-6717</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceri Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is OPEC has/had a stranglehold on oil prices and production which obviously could not be tolerated, knocking out one of the key OPEC nations definitely hurt them to a degree. And as disgusting as it sounds to some nearly all foreign interest in that region has been about the oil for as long as any of us have been alive. For the old movie buffs go find the follow up to Lawrence of Arabia (A Dangerous Man: Lawrence After Arabia [1990]), it&#039;s actually about the seperation of Iraq and Iran and why it happened while it&#039;s definitely not entirely true it does stick pretty close to the reality of the meetings about the fate of the region. I don&#039;t dismiss the idea of other motives behind the attack on Iraq, however anyone who dismisses oil as a motive is kidding themselves. It&#039;s been nearly 90 years since the Paris conferences where the &quot;winners&quot; split the spoils. Humanity hasn&#039;t changed much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is OPEC has/had a stranglehold on oil prices and production which obviously could not be tolerated, knocking out one of the key OPEC nations definitely hurt them to a degree. And as disgusting as it sounds to some nearly all foreign interest in that region has been about the oil for as long as any of us have been alive. For the old movie buffs go find the follow up to Lawrence of Arabia (A Dangerous Man: Lawrence After Arabia [1990]), it&#8217;s actually about the seperation of Iraq and Iran and why it happened while it&#8217;s definitely not entirely true it does stick pretty close to the reality of the meetings about the fate of the region. I don&#8217;t dismiss the idea of other motives behind the attack on Iraq, however anyone who dismisses oil as a motive is kidding themselves. It&#8217;s been nearly 90 years since the Paris conferences where the &#8220;winners&#8221; split the spoils. Humanity hasn&#8217;t changed much.</p>
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		<title>By: gerald spezio</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/how-the-bush-administrations-iraqi-oil-grab-went-awry/#comment-6566</link>
		<dc:creator>gerald spezio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr or Mrs Deadbeat, you keep writing, and all I will have to do is follow you with, Yes Sir or Yes Ma&#039;m.

If more good Jews;  like Illan Pappe, Stephen Lendeman,  and Norman Finkelstein,  come out with their brains and objectivity protecting and defending truth, the people of Palestine, all religions including their religion, and the country of Israel with truth and intelligence;  it is at least conceivable that this murdering could stop.

Other than that,  this mad dog murdering going on into Iran could unleash some unstoppable anti-who-knows-what-madness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr or Mrs Deadbeat, you keep writing, and all I will have to do is follow you with, Yes Sir or Yes Ma&#8217;m.</p>
<p>If more good Jews;  like Illan Pappe, Stephen Lendeman,  and Norman Finkelstein,  come out with their brains and objectivity protecting and defending truth, the people of Palestine, all religions including their religion, and the country of Israel with truth and intelligence;  it is at least conceivable that this murdering could stop.</p>
<p>Other than that,  this mad dog murdering going on into Iran could unleash some unstoppable anti-who-knows-what-madness.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/how-the-bush-administrations-iraqi-oil-grab-went-awry/#comment-6563</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gerald,

   You are right about &quot;PEEK OIL&quot;.  Chavez stated recently that Venezuela has enough oil reserves for at least 200 years.  What Chavez desires is a price guarantee of $50.00/barrel because Venezuela has heavy oil that cost more to refine.  Right now oil is hovering at $70 - $80 per barrel so the current world prices clearly satisfies Venezuela&#039;s requirements. 

  Chavez also asserted that Venezuela has more reserves than Saudi Arabia therefore it makes no logical sense that the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq was for oil.  It would have made more logical sense for the U.S. to have invaded Venezuela if the reason was the need for  oil.

  The failure to examine Zionism and its role and influence on U.S. policy making and Zionism&#039;s effect upon U.S. culture by the left is profoundly anti-Marxist and IMO -- racist and is the main reason why the anti-war movement in the U.S.  has been totally demobilized.

  While I would expect the right and reactionaries to behave in this manner the so-called &quot;left&quot; in the U.S. has this strain of racism and Zionism that has to be confronted and expose if there is going to be any chance for real social and economic change in the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gerald,</p>
<p>   You are right about &#8220;PEEK OIL&#8221;.  Chavez stated recently that Venezuela has enough oil reserves for at least 200 years.  What Chavez desires is a price guarantee of $50.00/barrel because Venezuela has heavy oil that cost more to refine.  Right now oil is hovering at $70 &#8211; $80 per barrel so the current world prices clearly satisfies Venezuela&#8217;s requirements. </p>
<p>  Chavez also asserted that Venezuela has more reserves than Saudi Arabia therefore it makes no logical sense that the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq was for oil.  It would have made more logical sense for the U.S. to have invaded Venezuela if the reason was the need for  oil.</p>
<p>  The failure to examine Zionism and its role and influence on U.S. policy making and Zionism&#8217;s effect upon U.S. culture by the left is profoundly anti-Marxist and IMO &#8212; racist and is the main reason why the anti-war movement in the U.S.  has been totally demobilized.</p>
<p>  While I would expect the right and reactionaries to behave in this manner the so-called &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S. has this strain of racism and Zionism that has to be confronted and expose if there is going to be any chance for real social and economic change in the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: gerald spezio</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/how-the-bush-administrations-iraqi-oil-grab-went-awry/#comment-6557</link>
		<dc:creator>gerald spezio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiro has been an integral player for years in the carefully orchestrated Israel peeyar preaching against dependence on Arab oil.  Much of the PEAK OIL,  PEAL OIL,  agenda is pure Israel ANTI ARAB propaganda.

&quot;Set America Free&quot; is a Zionist website with NY Times whore,  Tom Friedman, dutifully selling in the spin.  Click the video in the right hand corner. You will love Israel whore an former CIA head, James Woolsey,  selling the spin.

The Israeli Army Lt. Colonel, Gal Luft, ranting about the foul Saudis and their filthy oil is a peeyar classic. Catch the spin here; http://setamericafree.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiro has been an integral player for years in the carefully orchestrated Israel peeyar preaching against dependence on Arab oil.  Much of the PEAK OIL,  PEAL OIL,  agenda is pure Israel ANTI ARAB propaganda.</p>
<p>&#8220;Set America Free&#8221; is a Zionist website with NY Times whore,  Tom Friedman, dutifully selling in the spin.  Click the video in the right hand corner. You will love Israel whore an former CIA head, James Woolsey,  selling the spin.</p>
<p>The Israeli Army Lt. Colonel, Gal Luft, ranting about the foul Saudis and their filthy oil is a peeyar classic. Catch the spin here; <a href="http://setamericafree.org/" rel="nofollow">http://setamericafree.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: gerald spezio</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/how-the-bush-administrations-iraqi-oil-grab-went-awry/#comment-6544</link>
		<dc:creator>gerald spezio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deadbeat, your commentary is on point. I see it the same way.
The Israeli murder machine has fifteen months to pull off more of the master plan.

When Joe Biden can be quoted, as you do, anybody can see the Senate whorehouse. It costs plenty. Another lawyer on the take  -  just doing his job  for Israel. 

Exposing Israeli agent, Russ Wellen, is only a crumb, but it shows how pervasive the doubltalking scams are. Wellen even tried to push Daniel Pipes in another of his pseudo-leftist  &quot;pieces.&quot;

The &quot;Middle East ally&quot; spin has been cropping up more and more lately.
Greenspan and Kissenger are whoring and spinning the &quot;it&#039;s all about oil&quot; 
frame as part of the push. Ditto for Hiro&#039;s piece. Orchestration.

I am fearful that it is going to come down to pure political hell and worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deadbeat, your commentary is on point. I see it the same way.<br />
The Israeli murder machine has fifteen months to pull off more of the master plan.</p>
<p>When Joe Biden can be quoted, as you do, anybody can see the Senate whorehouse. It costs plenty. Another lawyer on the take  &#8211;  just doing his job  for Israel. </p>
<p>Exposing Israeli agent, Russ Wellen, is only a crumb, but it shows how pervasive the doubltalking scams are. Wellen even tried to push Daniel Pipes in another of his pseudo-leftist  &#8220;pieces.&#8221;</p>
<p>The &#8220;Middle East ally&#8221; spin has been cropping up more and more lately.<br />
Greenspan and Kissenger are whoring and spinning the &#8220;it&#8217;s all about oil&#8221;<br />
frame as part of the push. Ditto for Hiro&#8217;s piece. Orchestration.</p>
<p>I am fearful that it is going to come down to pure political hell and worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/how-the-bush-administrations-iraqi-oil-grab-went-awry/#comment-6540</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; EXCLUSIVE NETWORK INTERVIEW OF SENATOR JOE BIDEN
	  	
Presidential hopeful calls Israel &quot;the single greatest strength America has in the Middle East&quot;

Says Jonathan Pollard deserves leniency but not a pardon
		
In an exclusive Shalom TV interview, US Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-DE) emphatically stated his commitment to the State of Israel, calling the country &quot;the single greatest strength America has in the Middle East.&quot;

Senator Biden further stressed that without Israel, one could only imagine how many battleships and troops America would have to station in the Middle East.

Meeting with Shalom TV President Rabbi Mark S. Golub in Washington, DC, the candidate for the Democratic Party&#039;s presidential nomination said that it&#039;s insulting for any American to suggest that Israel is somehow the cause of the war in Iraq.

 

&quot;If, tomorrow, peace broke out between Israelis and Palestinians, does anybody think there wouldn&#039;t be a full-blown war in Iraq? And, conversely, if Iraq were transported to Mars, does anyone think there would not be terrorism visited upon the Israelis every day?

&quot;So let&#039;s get it straight. Israel is not the cause of Iraq. Iraq being settled or not settled has nothing to do with Israel&#039;s conduct.&quot;

The Senator also expressed a sensitivity and empathy for Israelis who have had to live with terrorism.

&quot;[From 9/11], Americans can taste what it must feel like for every Israeli mother and father when they send their kid out to school with their lunch to put them on a bus, on a bicycle or to walk; and they pray to God that cell phone doesn&#039;t ring.&quot;

&lt;b&gt;&quot;I am a Zionist,&quot; stated Senator Biden. &quot;You don&#039;t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> EXCLUSIVE NETWORK INTERVIEW OF SENATOR JOE BIDEN</p>
<p>Presidential hopeful calls Israel &#8220;the single greatest strength America has in the Middle East&#8221;</p>
<p>Says Jonathan Pollard deserves leniency but not a pardon</p>
<p>In an exclusive Shalom TV interview, US Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-DE) emphatically stated his commitment to the State of Israel, calling the country &#8220;the single greatest strength America has in the Middle East.&#8221;</p>
<p>Senator Biden further stressed that without Israel, one could only imagine how many battleships and troops America would have to station in the Middle East.</p>
<p>Meeting with Shalom TV President Rabbi Mark S. Golub in Washington, DC, the candidate for the Democratic Party&#8217;s presidential nomination said that it&#8217;s insulting for any American to suggest that Israel is somehow the cause of the war in Iraq.</p>
<p>&#8220;If, tomorrow, peace broke out between Israelis and Palestinians, does anybody think there wouldn&#8217;t be a full-blown war in Iraq? And, conversely, if Iraq were transported to Mars, does anyone think there would not be terrorism visited upon the Israelis every day?</p>
<p>&#8220;So let&#8217;s get it straight. Israel is not the cause of Iraq. Iraq being settled or not settled has nothing to do with Israel&#8217;s conduct.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Senator also expressed a sensitivity and empathy for Israelis who have had to live with terrorism.</p>
<p>&#8220;[From 9/11], Americans can taste what it must feel like for every Israeli mother and father when they send their kid out to school with their lunch to put them on a bus, on a bicycle or to walk; and they pray to God that cell phone doesn&#8217;t ring.&#8221;</p>
<p><b>&#8220;I am a Zionist,&#8221; stated Senator Biden. &#8220;You don&#8217;t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.&#8221;</b></i></p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/how-the-bush-administrations-iraqi-oil-grab-went-awry/#comment-6500</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When did Alan Greenspan become the paragon of truth especially by the left.  Here we have Dilip Hiro, Ron Jacobs, and Amy Goodman quickly looking to Alan Greenspan to convince the left that the illegal invasion in Iraq was solely about oil.

Here we have Alan Greenspan who contrived the biggest theft of working class value -- shifting the tax burden in 1983 and was rewarded for this scheme by being Fed Chairman for the subsequent 20 years.  So now Greenspan is now hail by the left as the paragon of truth -- &quot;WAR FOR OIL&quot;.

Oil clearly was AMONG one of the reason but again Hiro ignores that the oil company executives and the lobby arm did NOT support the invasion of Iraq.  He also ignore the policy position of PNAC that was written in the 1990&#039;s by the &quot;Zioncons&quot; and ignore Clinton&#039;s policy of sanctions and bombings of Iraq.  

There seem to be a real effort on the left to ignore the role of Zionism and its effect on policy and culture WITHIN the United States.  Ron Jacobs especially likes to write articles using a strawman argument that Tel Aviv is yanking the string in Washington.  This is a ridiculous premise that he can easily knock down.  The truth is clearly more complex than such a bogus strawman.  

What is true is that the influence of Zionism on the body politic and especially in the media has indoctrinated how the American pubic think and feel about people of Arab/Muslim origins.  In other words anti-Arab racism in the U.S. is quite acceptable.  While the word &quot;nigger&quot; has become an unacceptable term the military in Iraq use &quot;acceptable&quot; terms like &quot;sand nigger&quot; and &quot;hajis&quot;  and &quot;terrorist&quot; to label the Iraqi people.

The silence about this obviously racist tend within the U.S. among the &quot;left&quot; and the &quot;left&quot; desire to sweep this issue  under the rug is more revealing about the so-called &quot;leftist&quot;.  What is it that they fear? Or better yet are they themselves Zionist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did Alan Greenspan become the paragon of truth especially by the left.  Here we have Dilip Hiro, Ron Jacobs, and Amy Goodman quickly looking to Alan Greenspan to convince the left that the illegal invasion in Iraq was solely about oil.</p>
<p>Here we have Alan Greenspan who contrived the biggest theft of working class value &#8212; shifting the tax burden in 1983 and was rewarded for this scheme by being Fed Chairman for the subsequent 20 years.  So now Greenspan is now hail by the left as the paragon of truth &#8212; &#8220;WAR FOR OIL&#8221;.</p>
<p>Oil clearly was AMONG one of the reason but again Hiro ignores that the oil company executives and the lobby arm did NOT support the invasion of Iraq.  He also ignore the policy position of PNAC that was written in the 1990&#8217;s by the &#8220;Zioncons&#8221; and ignore Clinton&#8217;s policy of sanctions and bombings of Iraq.  </p>
<p>There seem to be a real effort on the left to ignore the role of Zionism and its effect on policy and culture WITHIN the United States.  Ron Jacobs especially likes to write articles using a strawman argument that Tel Aviv is yanking the string in Washington.  This is a ridiculous premise that he can easily knock down.  The truth is clearly more complex than such a bogus strawman.  </p>
<p>What is true is that the influence of Zionism on the body politic and especially in the media has indoctrinated how the American pubic think and feel about people of Arab/Muslim origins.  In other words anti-Arab racism in the U.S. is quite acceptable.  While the word &#8220;nigger&#8221; has become an unacceptable term the military in Iraq use &#8220;acceptable&#8221; terms like &#8220;sand nigger&#8221; and &#8220;hajis&#8221;  and &#8220;terrorist&#8221; to label the Iraqi people.</p>
<p>The silence about this obviously racist tend within the U.S. among the &#8220;left&#8221; and the &#8220;left&#8221; desire to sweep this issue  under the rug is more revealing about the so-called &#8220;leftist&#8221;.  What is it that they fear? Or better yet are they themselves Zionist?</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the big, horrible truth continues to penetrate the confused public mind,  we will soon be faced with the following question: How many dead and maimed US soldiers and how many slaughtered Iraqis is it worth tolerating to continue to allow the sale of super-powerful,  extra- heavy gas guzzling vehicles...you see ads all the time for cars touting their 400- horsepower engines; far more power than is ever necessary.  I favor a big gas guzzler tax on any vehicle that gets from zero to 60 in less than 8 seconds.   Bush himself said in an address to Congress,  &quot;&#039;WE ARE ADDICTED TO OIL&quot;   Well here&#039;s how to end the addiction!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the big, horrible truth continues to penetrate the confused public mind,  we will soon be faced with the following question: How many dead and maimed US soldiers and how many slaughtered Iraqis is it worth tolerating to continue to allow the sale of super-powerful,  extra- heavy gas guzzling vehicles&#8230;you see ads all the time for cars touting their 400- horsepower engines; far more power than is ever necessary.  I favor a big gas guzzler tax on any vehicle that gets from zero to 60 in less than 8 seconds.   Bush himself said in an address to Congress,  &#8220;&#8216;WE ARE ADDICTED TO OIL&#8221;   Well here&#8217;s how to end the addiction!!</p>
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