Comments on: The Ghost of Pinochet Haunts the Campaign Against Chavez http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Carmen http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-9256 Carmen Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:10:24 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-9256 Live in Venezuela. Fear insecurity. Do grocery shopping for your family missing the basics: milk, flour, sugar, harina pan.... paying what you hardly have. See then how "they" (chavez and his people) live and travel . See how the DICTATOR gives away OUR money to other countries. Has anyone watched on TV the answer he gave to the BBC reporter when he questioned Chávez on Why he gave money to other countries when Venezuela needed it the most? He couln´t give any answer. )What are all you talking about, I should say, blabbering,? As long as I can remember, ( I´m 47 years old, every government has had programs to teach how to read and write, it just didn´t occurr to them to use that as propaganda. I can´t just believe that people with some studies and cultural level as you claim you have, can talk this way, befriending such a person a Chávez. Chavez is the worst virus that´s spreading through Latin America. Live in Venezuela. Fear insecurity. Do grocery shopping for your family missing the basics: milk, flour, sugar, harina pan…. paying what you hardly have. See then how “they” (chavez and his people) live and travel . See how the DICTATOR gives away OUR money to other countries. Has anyone watched on TV the answer he gave to the BBC reporter when he questioned Chávez on Why he gave money to other countries when Venezuela needed it the most? He couln´t give any answer. )What are all you talking about, I should say, blabbering,? As long as I can remember,
( I´m 47 years old, every government has had programs to teach how to read and write, it just didn´t occurr to them to use that as propaganda. I can´t just believe that people with some studies and cultural level as you claim you have, can talk this way, befriending such a person a Chávez. Chavez is the worst virus that´s spreading through Latin America.

]]> By: Daniela gomez http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-4896 Daniela gomez Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:35:12 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-4896 What? Is this for real? You realy think that chavez is just a poor president that the United States ainted like a dictator? HE IS A DICTATOR, lear a little bit more about Venezuelan history before publishing such comments! I'm from Venezuela an Bush is an Angel compared to Chavez! Stop thinking that you Know when you not!!!!! I hate the way you people believe that you Know about venezuela when you dont live here! you don't know the facts you dont know what's going on, just with the news, how can you give such an oppinions with wich bases? a women who lives in a poor area (In the richest of the poorest!!!!) Learn history! serch for the facts! read venezulans online papers! before saying such a things...LIVE in Venezuela What? Is this for real? You realy think that chavez is just a poor president that the United States ainted like a dictator?

HE IS A DICTATOR, lear a little bit more about Venezuelan history before publishing such comments! I’m from Venezuela an Bush is an Angel compared to Chavez!

Stop thinking that you Know when you not!!!!!

I hate the way you people believe that you Know about venezuela when you dont live here! you don’t know the facts you dont know what’s going on, just with the news, how can you give such an oppinions with wich bases? a women who lives in a poor area (In the richest of the poorest!!!!)

Learn history! serch for the facts! read venezulans online papers! before saying such a things…LIVE in Venezuela

]]> By: Bonnie McFadden http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-4259 Bonnie McFadden Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:57:06 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-4259 Thank you for your excellent article on detailing the Bush-Cheney administrations efforts to create another Chile in Venezuela. I'm an American lawyer, living and teaching in Merida, Venezuela, since February of this year. The Chavez government is doing wonderful things here for those who have never before benefited from the great profits from their oil resources. I've yet to see President Chavez invade a single country, torture or humiliate any prisoners, who detain people without lawyers or trial. I wish I could say the same for the U.S. I've obtained excellent medical care at the local publicly funded clinic, and it is every bit as good as the Kaiser clinic I used in Hawaii with one big exception, rather than costing thousands of dollars a year in payments and co-pays, the services here were completely free. So to with the university system, where students here pay little or no tuition. My son at the University of Oregon in Eugene, is paying $17,000 a year, more money than the majority of citizens make or can afford -- and U of O at Eugene is a state school! The middle class in America is being priced out of medical care and university educations, and the U.S. is supposed to be the richest country in the world. It is only the very rich in America who are the richest in the world. I have been blogging my life in Venezuela at www.dailykos.com. You might be interested to read my articles on Chavez's new Constitutional reform proposals: the 6 hours day, mandated health and safety conditions at work, public funding of elections and insuring access for all candidates to public spaces for meetings and rallies and, most important, to the media. [See My Life in Venezuela series at www.dailykos.com by searching "Justina".] Dailykos is a site for Democratic Party activists, of which I am one, but I have been amazed at how many putative "Democrats" have fallen, hook, line and sinker, for the false propaganda pushed by the Bush-Cheney administration to make Chavez appear to be a ruthless dictator, which, of course, he is definitely not. One would think that after all the lies told by Bush and Cheney to justify, their illegal invasion of Iraq and their continuing lies about Iraq and Iran, that folks would not believe the false stories about President Chavez. Unfortunately, some do, worse, some Democrats do, thus it is great to see an article such as yours which reports the facts about the Venezuela's Bolivarian Revolution. Thank you for your excellent article on detailing the Bush-Cheney administrations efforts to create another Chile in Venezuela.

I’m an American lawyer, living and teaching in Merida, Venezuela, since February of this year.

The Chavez government is doing wonderful things here for those who have never before benefited from the great profits from their oil resources.

I’ve yet to see President Chavez invade a single country, torture or humiliate any prisoners, who detain people without lawyers or trial. I wish I could say the same for the U.S.

I’ve obtained excellent medical care at the local publicly funded clinic, and it is every bit as good as the Kaiser clinic I used in Hawaii with one big exception, rather than costing thousands of dollars a year in payments and co-pays, the services here were completely free.

So to with the university system, where students here pay little or no tuition. My son at the University of Oregon in Eugene, is paying $17,000 a year, more money than the majority of citizens make or can afford — and U of O at Eugene is a state school!

The middle class in America is being priced out of medical care and university educations, and the U.S. is supposed to be the richest country in the world. It is only the very rich in America who are the richest in the world.

I have been blogging my life in Venezuela at http://www.dailykos.com. You might be interested to read my articles on Chavez’s new Constitutional reform proposals: the 6 hours day, mandated health and safety conditions at work, public funding of elections and insuring access for all candidates to public spaces for meetings and rallies and, most important, to the media. [See My Life in Venezuela series at http://www.dailykos.com by searching "Justina".]

Dailykos is a site for Democratic Party activists, of which I am one, but I have been amazed at how many putative “Democrats” have fallen, hook, line and sinker, for the false propaganda pushed by the Bush-Cheney administration to make Chavez appear to be a ruthless dictator, which, of course, he is definitely not.

One would think that after all the lies told by Bush and Cheney to justify, their illegal invasion of Iraq and their continuing lies about Iraq and Iran, that folks would not believe the false stories about President Chavez. Unfortunately, some do, worse, some Democrats do, thus it is great to see an article such as yours which reports the facts about the Venezuela’s Bolivarian Revolution.

]]> By: Bonnie McFadden http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-4258 Bonnie McFadden Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:54:17 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-4258 Thank you for your excellent article on detailing the Bush-Cheney administrations efforts to create another Chile in Venezuela. I'm an American lawyer, living and teaching in Merida, Venezuela, since February of this year. The Chavez government is doing wonderful things here for those who have never before benefited from the great profits from their oil resources. I've obtained excellent medical care at the local publicly funded clinic, and it is every bit as good as the Kaiser clinic I used in Hawaii with one big exception, rather than costing thousands of dollars a year in payments and co-pays, the services here were completely free. So to with the university system, where students here pay little or no tuition. My son at the University of Oregon in Eugene, is paying $17,000 a year, more money than the majority of citizens make or can afford -- and U of O at Eugene is a state school! The middle class in America is being priced out of medical care and university educations, and the U.S. is supposed to be the richest country in the world. It is only the very rich in America who are the richest in the world. I have been blogging my life in Venezuela at www.dailykos.com. You might be interested to read my articles on Chavez's new Constitutional reform proposals: the 6 hours day, mandated health and safety conditions at work, public funding of elections and insuring access for all candidates to public spaces for meetings and rallies and, most important, to the media. [See My Life in Venezuela series at daily kos by searching "Justina".] Dailykos is a site for Democratic Party activists, of which I am one, but I have been amazed at how many putative "Democrats" have fallen, hook, line and sinker, for the false propaganda pushed by the Bush-Cheney administration to make Chavez appear to be a ruthless dictator, which, of course, he is definitely not. One would think that after all the lies told by Bush and Cheney to justify, their illegal invasion of Iraq and their continuing lies about Iraq and Iran, that folks would not believe the false stories about President Chavez. Unfortunately, some do, worse, some Democrats do, thus it is great to see an article such as yours which reports the facts about the Venezuela's Bolivarian Revoluation. Thank you for your excellent article on detailing the Bush-Cheney administrations efforts to create another Chile in Venezuela.

I’m an American lawyer, living and teaching in Merida, Venezuela, since February of this year.

The Chavez government is doing wonderful things here for those who have never before benefited from the great profits from their oil resources.

I’ve obtained excellent medical care at the local publicly funded clinic, and it is every bit as good as the Kaiser clinic I used in Hawaii with one big exception, rather than costing thousands of dollars a year in payments and co-pays, the services here were completely free.

So to with the university system, where students here pay little or no tuition. My son at the University of Oregon in Eugene, is paying $17,000 a year, more money than the majority of citizens make or can afford — and U of O at Eugene is a state school!

The middle class in America is being priced out of medical care and university educations, and the U.S. is supposed to be the richest country in the world. It is only the very rich in America who are the richest in the world.

I have been blogging my life in Venezuela at http://www.dailykos.com. You might be interested to read my articles on Chavez’s new Constitutional reform proposals: the 6 hours day, mandated health and safety conditions at work, public funding of elections and insuring access for all candidates to public spaces for meetings and rallies and, most important, to the media. [See My Life in Venezuela series at daily kos by searching "Justina".]

Dailykos is a site for Democratic Party activists, of which I am one, but I have been amazed at how many putative “Democrats” have fallen, hook, line and sinker, for the false propaganda pushed by the Bush-Cheney administration to make Chavez appear to be a ruthless dictator, which, of course, he is definitely not.

One would think that after all the lies told by Bush and Cheney to justify, their illegal invasion of Iraq and their continuing lies about Iraq and Iran, that folks would not believe the false stories about President Chavez. Unfortunately, some do, worse, some Democrats do, thus it is great to see an article such as yours which reports the facts about the Venezuela’s Bolivarian Revoluation.

]]> By: Daniel http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-4236 Daniel Sun, 19 Aug 2007 01:46:42 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-4236 The Machiavellian intrigues of the American government are legendary! It would support the Devil him or herself if there was a dollar to be made. The attempt to demonize Chavez is yet another pathetic attempt to stop South American countries joining together to resist the menacing American economic and political octopus. John Pilger. Well done! The Machiavellian intrigues of the American government are legendary! It would support the Devil him or herself if there was a dollar to be made.

The attempt to demonize Chavez is yet another pathetic attempt to stop South American countries joining together to resist the menacing American economic and political octopus.

John Pilger. Well done!

]]> By: Max Shields http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-4220 Max Shields Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:13:05 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-4220 First, thank you Mr. Pilger for continuing to bring us this very important narrative. The powers here - and yes, liberal who do some of the greatest damage in enabling the right to dominate - have sketched a different - yet common narrative to demonize. It's an old trick, but without a strong and vocal counter narrative there is only the one heard repeatedly. I think you're touching on the crux of what makes the Bolivarian transformation so vital; something missed in the James Petras pieces on DV. That is the cooperatives and grass-roots democracy which is community structured. This is deep living democracy so completely absent in the US. While I think Chavez is a very important figure, somewhere we need to focus on the many who provide leadership, the mentors, facilitators and educators who will sustain this transformation and lead the way both for Venezuela, the South in general and perhaps help to transform the collapsing empire. Single figures play into the demonization narrative, and so here we must be careful in over-emphasizing Chavez - while acknowledging his major contribution. First, thank you Mr. Pilger for continuing to bring us this very important narrative. The powers here – and yes, liberal who do some of the greatest damage in enabling the right to dominate – have sketched a different – yet common narrative to demonize. It’s an old trick, but without a strong and vocal counter narrative there is only the one heard repeatedly.

I think you’re touching on the crux of what makes the Bolivarian transformation so vital; something missed in the James Petras pieces on DV. That is the cooperatives and grass-roots democracy which is community structured. This is deep living democracy so completely absent in the US.

While I think Chavez is a very important figure, somewhere we need to focus on the many who provide leadership, the mentors, facilitators and educators who will sustain this transformation and lead the way both for Venezuela, the South in general and perhaps help to transform the collapsing empire. Single figures play into the demonization narrative, and so here we must be careful in over-emphasizing Chavez – while acknowledging his major contribution.

]]> By: PT http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-4217 PT Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:40:08 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-4217 Tyranny exists in many forms and shapes particularly in the countries that proclaim a exemplary model of demrocracy and freedom. Yet it is in within the vast majority that some form of censorship or conditioning of their peoples' own thoughts, lives and ides is carried out under the auspices of been best for them and right at the time. Facts and truth are distorted to give a perception that is wanted for that particular moment in time to achieve what ever purpose is desired by the supposed 'betters' in society People of all colours, creeds and languages should be given the same freedoms and control that are reputedly given and preached by leaders yet are systematically abused and controlled under a different name in their own countries. One day we may all be the same as the day we were brought into the world and not left wondering at we have missed at as we depart. Tyranny exists in many forms and shapes particularly in the countries that proclaim a exemplary model of demrocracy and freedom. Yet it is in within the vast majority that some form of censorship or conditioning of their peoples’ own thoughts, lives and ides is carried out under the auspices of been best for them and right at the time. Facts and truth are distorted to give a perception that is wanted for that particular moment in time to achieve what ever purpose is desired by the supposed ‘betters’ in society People of all colours, creeds and languages should be given the same freedoms and control that are reputedly given and preached by leaders yet are systematically abused and controlled under a different name in their own countries. One day we may all be the same as the day we were brought into the world and not left wondering at we have missed at as we depart.

]]> By: Deadbeat http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-4216 Deadbeat Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:36:27 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/the-ghost-of-pinochet-haunts-the-campaign-against-chavez/#comment-4216 John Pilger exposes liberals for who they really are. Liberal are posers, demagogues and hypocrites. Thanks John because the left needs a voice to expose liberals and the so-called "progressives" for their role in maintaining the status quo. John Pilger exposes liberals for who they really are. Liberal are posers, demagogues and hypocrites.

Thanks John because the left needs a voice to expose liberals and the so-called “progressives” for their role in maintaining the status quo.

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