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		<title>By: Susan Rosenthal</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/how-capitalism-turns-intimate-relationships-into-a-battleground/#comment-18650</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevan,
You express such pessimism, cynicism and despair. I&#039;m not surprised. If everyone is the problem, then there is no solution to the miseries of capitalism. 

A Starbucks worker cannot be equated with the corporation, because the worker does not set policy. The corporation exploits the farmer AND the worker. 

Sadly, you have been convinced that you are an equal partner in exploiting coffee bean farmers. This delusion maintains your exploitation. RESIST! 

I wrote POWER and POWERLESSNESS to explain why the majority put up with a system that oppresses them and to provide hope for the future.

The May 1st demonstrations won&#039;t change the world. They will change US. They will break down our isolation and the fear that goes with it. As we build solidarity with one another, we become a force that CAN change the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevan,<br />
You express such pessimism, cynicism and despair. I&#8217;m not surprised. If everyone is the problem, then there is no solution to the miseries of capitalism. </p>
<p>A Starbucks worker cannot be equated with the corporation, because the worker does not set policy. The corporation exploits the farmer AND the worker. </p>
<p>Sadly, you have been convinced that you are an equal partner in exploiting coffee bean farmers. This delusion maintains your exploitation. RESIST! </p>
<p>I wrote POWER and POWERLESSNESS to explain why the majority put up with a system that oppresses them and to provide hope for the future.</p>
<p>The May 1st demonstrations won&#8217;t change the world. They will change US. They will break down our isolation and the fear that goes with it. As we build solidarity with one another, we become a force that CAN change the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevan Giffen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/how-capitalism-turns-intimate-relationships-into-a-battleground/#comment-18638</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevan Giffen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We can&#039;t play the innocent victims. We know what is going on and yet we still pay our taxes. Fear and despair aren&#039;t an excuse. Do you not think the Bolsheviks were afraid? Every intelligent, well informed person in this country is as guilty as the next because we have not demanded that George Bush be impeached and a number of other things. You can come up with all the excuses you want, but the fact of the matter is that we are too lazy to do what should be done... So, I don&#039;t really see why anyone thinks they have the right to judge the so-called &quot;elite&quot; when we are all just as guilty... We are all &quot;elite&quot; because we are all Americans. By merely existing, we are despots. Oppressing and exploiting. Unless of course, you are homeless and live in a dumpster eating from the gutter. The clothes we buy, the food we eat, etc. I work for Starbucks, a corporation that exploits coffee bean farmers left and right. I know this and still work there... Why? Because I need money to survive. This makes me a despot. Same thing can be applied to paying taxes, buying clothes, food, or other careers and jobs, etc.

So, go to your petty demonstration that nobody cares about, that&#039;s not going to make the New York Times, that&#039;s not going to be on the evening news, and that nobody is going to notice.

The second amendment exists for a reason. It was put in place for a specific reason. It is demanded of us to return this country to &quot;We The People&quot; instead of &quot;We The Oligarchs&quot;, but we aren&#039;t going to do that are we? It wouldn&#039;t be the &quot;evolved&quot;, &quot;enlightened&quot;, or &quot;liberal&quot; thing to do... Violence is the only thing that gets our attention. It&#039;s the only thing we understand. Have fun at your demonstration, though. I&#039;m sure it will make a huge impact on this country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can&#8217;t play the innocent victims. We know what is going on and yet we still pay our taxes. Fear and despair aren&#8217;t an excuse. Do you not think the Bolsheviks were afraid? Every intelligent, well informed person in this country is as guilty as the next because we have not demanded that George Bush be impeached and a number of other things. You can come up with all the excuses you want, but the fact of the matter is that we are too lazy to do what should be done&#8230; So, I don&#8217;t really see why anyone thinks they have the right to judge the so-called &#8220;elite&#8221; when we are all just as guilty&#8230; We are all &#8220;elite&#8221; because we are all Americans. By merely existing, we are despots. Oppressing and exploiting. Unless of course, you are homeless and live in a dumpster eating from the gutter. The clothes we buy, the food we eat, etc. I work for Starbucks, a corporation that exploits coffee bean farmers left and right. I know this and still work there&#8230; Why? Because I need money to survive. This makes me a despot. Same thing can be applied to paying taxes, buying clothes, food, or other careers and jobs, etc.</p>
<p>So, go to your petty demonstration that nobody cares about, that&#8217;s not going to make the New York Times, that&#8217;s not going to be on the evening news, and that nobody is going to notice.</p>
<p>The second amendment exists for a reason. It was put in place for a specific reason. It is demanded of us to return this country to &#8220;We The People&#8221; instead of &#8220;We The Oligarchs&#8221;, but we aren&#8217;t going to do that are we? It wouldn&#8217;t be the &#8220;evolved&#8221;, &#8220;enlightened&#8221;, or &#8220;liberal&#8221; thing to do&#8230; Violence is the only thing that gets our attention. It&#8217;s the only thing we understand. Have fun at your demonstration, though. I&#8217;m sure it will make a huge impact on this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Rosenthal</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/how-capitalism-turns-intimate-relationships-into-a-battleground/#comment-18546</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you quote a right-wing statement, without making it very clear that you do not support it, then the reader can reasonably assume that you do.

I disagree with your statement, &quot;we endorse their actions with our inaction. We are equally guilty…&quot;  We cannot equate the  slave, who has not yet found the courage to rebel, with the slave-master. 

The inaction of the majority results from divide-and-rule policies that instill fear and despair (see my book, POWER and Powerlessness).  We can overcome this paralysis by understanding that the majority do not benefit from the current system and have a common interest in replacing it. More than understanding, we need to act, visibly and publicly. 

Everyone out for the May 1st demonstrations!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you quote a right-wing statement, without making it very clear that you do not support it, then the reader can reasonably assume that you do.</p>
<p>I disagree with your statement, &#8220;we endorse their actions with our inaction. We are equally guilty…&#8221;  We cannot equate the  slave, who has not yet found the courage to rebel, with the slave-master. </p>
<p>The inaction of the majority results from divide-and-rule policies that instill fear and despair (see my book, POWER and Powerlessness).  We can overcome this paralysis by understanding that the majority do not benefit from the current system and have a common interest in replacing it. More than understanding, we need to act, visibly and publicly. </p>
<p>Everyone out for the May 1st demonstrations!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevan Giffen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/how-capitalism-turns-intimate-relationships-into-a-battleground/#comment-18531</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevan Giffen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Susan,

I was replying to the erroneous statements made by Jordan. I put them in quotations and replied to them saying &quot;The West stand so high on the shoulders of the third world&quot;. I wasn&#039;t defending capitalism.

It&#039;s not just the &quot;elite&quot; few that &quot;impose misery on an incomprehensible scale&quot;. We endorse their actions with our inaction. We are equally guilty...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan,</p>
<p>I was replying to the erroneous statements made by Jordan. I put them in quotations and replied to them saying &#8220;The West stand so high on the shoulders of the third world&#8221;. I wasn&#8217;t defending capitalism.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just the &#8220;elite&#8221; few that &#8220;impose misery on an incomprehensible scale&#8221;. We endorse their actions with our inaction. We are equally guilty&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Rosenthal</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/how-capitalism-turns-intimate-relationships-into-a-battleground/#comment-18152</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin,

What men are you talking about? Surely not the 60 percent of the U.S. workforce who make less than $15 an hour. Surely not the 2 million incarcerated in U.S. jails. Surely not the millions of  aboriginal societies and African slaves who were exterminated and crushed to pave the way for capitalist “development.” 
	
The age of capitalist has been the bloodiest, most barbaric epic in human history: the Nazi Genocide, atomic annihilation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the fire bombing of Tokyo, Dresden, Hamburg. 

The British empire imposed famine on Ireland and India. Today, the U.S. empire imposes famine on Iraq and, with Israel, on Palestine. And in the heart of world capitalism, America’s Second Harvest provides emergency food aid to 23 million hungry Americans every year, including 9 million children and 3 million seniors. And, every year, this number grows.

It’s true that capitalism has made possible an abundance unmatched in human history. And if it were shared, we could have paradise on earth. Instead, we live in hell. 

To maintain their wealth and power, a tiny elite impose misery on an incomprehensible scale. Wake up and smell the barbarism. We cannot change what we refuse to acknowledge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>What men are you talking about? Surely not the 60 percent of the U.S. workforce who make less than $15 an hour. Surely not the 2 million incarcerated in U.S. jails. Surely not the millions of  aboriginal societies and African slaves who were exterminated and crushed to pave the way for capitalist “development.” </p>
<p>The age of capitalist has been the bloodiest, most barbaric epic in human history: the Nazi Genocide, atomic annihilation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the fire bombing of Tokyo, Dresden, Hamburg. </p>
<p>The British empire imposed famine on Ireland and India. Today, the U.S. empire imposes famine on Iraq and, with Israel, on Palestine. And in the heart of world capitalism, America’s Second Harvest provides emergency food aid to 23 million hungry Americans every year, including 9 million children and 3 million seniors. And, every year, this number grows.</p>
<p>It’s true that capitalism has made possible an abundance unmatched in human history. And if it were shared, we could have paradise on earth. Instead, we live in hell. </p>
<p>To maintain their wealth and power, a tiny elite impose misery on an incomprehensible scale. Wake up and smell the barbarism. We cannot change what we refuse to acknowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevan Giffen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/how-capitalism-turns-intimate-relationships-into-a-battleground/#comment-18067</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevan Giffen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“This is the verdict of history. In just two short centuries, capitalism has lifted men’s living standards to heights undreamed of in the pre-capitalist era. Often forgotten today is that Western Europe, prior to the capitalist revolution of the late Eighteenth Century, suffering under the political yoke of the feudal aristocracy, was the equivalent of a Third World country - wracked by famine, recurrent plague, and the most unspeakable poverty. But no longer.

When was the last time a famine occurred in any capitalist nation - whether in Western Europe, North America or Asia? The United States has never suffered a famine in its history. Capitalism has created abundance unmatched in human history, enabling hundreds of millions to live better today than all the kings of yesterday. ”



The west stands so high on the shoulders of the third world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“This is the verdict of history. In just two short centuries, capitalism has lifted men’s living standards to heights undreamed of in the pre-capitalist era. Often forgotten today is that Western Europe, prior to the capitalist revolution of the late Eighteenth Century, suffering under the political yoke of the feudal aristocracy, was the equivalent of a Third World country &#8211; wracked by famine, recurrent plague, and the most unspeakable poverty. But no longer.</p>
<p>When was the last time a famine occurred in any capitalist nation &#8211; whether in Western Europe, North America or Asia? The United States has never suffered a famine in its history. Capitalism has created abundance unmatched in human history, enabling hundreds of millions to live better today than all the kings of yesterday. ”</p>
<p>The west stands so high on the shoulders of the third world.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McNiven</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/how-capitalism-turns-intimate-relationships-into-a-battleground/#comment-5092</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McNiven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 21:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please see an example of a life harmed by the structured violence of capitalism:

http://www.nasrinparvaz.com/Synopsis.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please see an example of a life harmed by the structured violence of capitalism:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nasrinparvaz.com/Synopsis.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nasrinparvaz.com/Synopsis.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Cameron</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/how-capitalism-turns-intimate-relationships-into-a-battleground/#comment-4788</link>
		<dc:creator>James Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It really is refreshing (and unusual) to see the left speaking up for men.  

How many times have we heard the left trot out tired mantra that men run the world?  The implication being, of course, that individual men deserve no sympathy or help, regardless of the circumstances.  

It is true that the world is run by a small number of men, but men do not run the world.  Most men are poor and powerless, just like most women.    

And, now that almost two thirds of college graduates are women, the power balance is swinging very much in women&#039;s favor, particularly on the lower end of the socioeconomic scale.  In fact, in many major U.S. cities, young women now outearn young men. 

These trends are even more pronounced in minority communities.  Feminism has focused for years on the complaints of upper middle class white women who resent the relative success of their male peers.  In the process, it has painted all men, no matter how poor and powerless, as oppressors and all women, no matter how wealthy and powerful as &quot;disadvantaged&quot; and oppressed.  

No wonder that ordinary working class men appear to be increasingly swinging right, even to the point of voting against their own economic interests.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really is refreshing (and unusual) to see the left speaking up for men.  </p>
<p>How many times have we heard the left trot out tired mantra that men run the world?  The implication being, of course, that individual men deserve no sympathy or help, regardless of the circumstances.  </p>
<p>It is true that the world is run by a small number of men, but men do not run the world.  Most men are poor and powerless, just like most women.    </p>
<p>And, now that almost two thirds of college graduates are women, the power balance is swinging very much in women&#8217;s favor, particularly on the lower end of the socioeconomic scale.  In fact, in many major U.S. cities, young women now outearn young men. </p>
<p>These trends are even more pronounced in minority communities.  Feminism has focused for years on the complaints of upper middle class white women who resent the relative success of their male peers.  In the process, it has painted all men, no matter how poor and powerless, as oppressors and all women, no matter how wealthy and powerful as &#8220;disadvantaged&#8221; and oppressed.  </p>
<p>No wonder that ordinary working class men appear to be increasingly swinging right, even to the point of voting against their own economic interests.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/how-capitalism-turns-intimate-relationships-into-a-battleground/#comment-4749</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Kim.  I&#039;m sure the 2 billion people living on less than $2.00/day would disagree with Jordan&#039;s fantasy assessment of capitalism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Kim.  I&#8217;m sure the 2 billion people living on less than $2.00/day would disagree with Jordan&#8217;s fantasy assessment of capitalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Petersen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/how-capitalism-turns-intimate-relationships-into-a-battleground/#comment-4737</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jordan. Merely asserting that &quot;Capitalism is the most successful economic system in the history of the world&quot; is thoroughly uncompelling. Capitalism is a failure everywhere; or would you care to state where capitalism is a success?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan. Merely asserting that &#8220;Capitalism is the most successful economic system in the history of the world&#8221; is thoroughly uncompelling. Capitalism is a failure everywhere; or would you care to state where capitalism is a success?</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/how-capitalism-turns-intimate-relationships-into-a-battleground/#comment-4732</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So....exactly what system are you advocating?

Communism? Yeah, that turned out really well. Especially in North Korea.

Socialism? That tends to really depend on the character of the nation and whether that nation is willing to accept the communalism that is inherent in socialism. And the United States is not such a nation.  We have never accepted socialist principles here. Good luck changing it.

Face it. Capitalism is the most successful economic system in the history of the world. And I don&#039;t see any of you &quot;dissidents&quot; who sit atop mountains of privilege with full bellies doing anything besides bitch. Unlike people like Muhammad Yunus, who is actually alleviating poverty in Bangladesh. And you know how? Capitalism.

&quot;This is the verdict of history. In just two short centuries, capitalism has lifted men’s living standards to heights undreamed of in the pre-capitalist era. Often forgotten today is that Western Europe, prior to the capitalist revolution of the late Eighteenth Century, suffering under the political yoke of the feudal aristocracy, was the equivalent of a Third World country - wracked by famine, recurrent plague, and the most unspeakable poverty. But no longer.

When was the last time a famine occurred in any capitalist nation - whether in Western Europe, North America or Asia? The United States has never suffered a famine in its history. Capitalism has created abundance unmatched in human history, enabling hundreds of millions to live better today than all the kings of yesterday. &quot;

-The Bernstein Declaration]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;.exactly what system are you advocating?</p>
<p>Communism? Yeah, that turned out really well. Especially in North Korea.</p>
<p>Socialism? That tends to really depend on the character of the nation and whether that nation is willing to accept the communalism that is inherent in socialism. And the United States is not such a nation.  We have never accepted socialist principles here. Good luck changing it.</p>
<p>Face it. Capitalism is the most successful economic system in the history of the world. And I don&#8217;t see any of you &#8220;dissidents&#8221; who sit atop mountains of privilege with full bellies doing anything besides bitch. Unlike people like Muhammad Yunus, who is actually alleviating poverty in Bangladesh. And you know how? Capitalism.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is the verdict of history. In just two short centuries, capitalism has lifted men’s living standards to heights undreamed of in the pre-capitalist era. Often forgotten today is that Western Europe, prior to the capitalist revolution of the late Eighteenth Century, suffering under the political yoke of the feudal aristocracy, was the equivalent of a Third World country &#8211; wracked by famine, recurrent plague, and the most unspeakable poverty. But no longer.</p>
<p>When was the last time a famine occurred in any capitalist nation &#8211; whether in Western Europe, North America or Asia? The United States has never suffered a famine in its history. Capitalism has created abundance unmatched in human history, enabling hundreds of millions to live better today than all the kings of yesterday. &#8221;</p>
<p>-The Bernstein Declaration</p>
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		<title>By: CH</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/how-capitalism-turns-intimate-relationships-into-a-battleground/#comment-4707</link>
		<dc:creator>CH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Male babies aren&#039;t anesthetized when they&#039;re circumcised?  Ouch!  I used to work in a hospital and saw a baby boy (not just any baby, but one born prematurely) being circumcised once.  I assumed he was anesthetized.  I guess I was wrong.

The image of the circumcised penis is so prevalent in the media that one can forget that many of the world&#039;s males aren&#039;t circumcised.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Male babies aren&#8217;t anesthetized when they&#8217;re circumcised?  Ouch!  I used to work in a hospital and saw a baby boy (not just any baby, but one born prematurely) being circumcised once.  I assumed he was anesthetized.  I guess I was wrong.</p>
<p>The image of the circumcised penis is so prevalent in the media that one can forget that many of the world&#8217;s males aren&#8217;t circumcised.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/08/how-capitalism-turns-intimate-relationships-into-a-battleground/#comment-4703</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A truly ground-breaking look at the MYTH of male power is Warren Farrell&#039;s book, &quot;The Myth of Male Power.&quot; 

Examples of his work are at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/2z2sza&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/2z2sza&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A truly ground-breaking look at the MYTH of male power is Warren Farrell&#8217;s book, &#8220;The Myth of Male Power.&#8221; </p>
<p>Examples of his work are at: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2z2sza" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2z2sza</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nick Theophilou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Theophilou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my experience counselling men over the last 5 years, in groups and individually I have always I began to realise that violence is an expression of powerless, and that men are by and large conditioned into a narrow expression of their emotional life.  Having said that i have also seen mens&#039; hunger to be more fully human; to express themselves more fully as human beings, and are happier for it.  I have also seen that it is easy to revert to old ways of being, so that, what i am trying to say is that working at this fuller life is one that people  need to work at.  

My own efforts to help men in this regard is a film (see: http://www.fathersandsons.com.au) i made to demysitify mens groups which, I believe, can help men develop the softer emotions they experience, and be supported in the process.  Many men have said they go home &#039;quieter&#039;, more ready to be available to the support their partners can give, and they are also more capable of giving that support.  But again, it requires work.  

I have also seen many women with the &#039;stellar careers&#039; begin to show the same attributes we have come to expect from the traditional male: stress, anger, and certainly little or no overt emotion like weeping.    

As for the divisiveness perpetrated by the &#039;battle of the sexes&#039;, enough said.

Thank you Susan Rosenthal for the article.  I will pass it on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience counselling men over the last 5 years, in groups and individually I have always I began to realise that violence is an expression of powerless, and that men are by and large conditioned into a narrow expression of their emotional life.  Having said that i have also seen mens&#8217; hunger to be more fully human; to express themselves more fully as human beings, and are happier for it.  I have also seen that it is easy to revert to old ways of being, so that, what i am trying to say is that working at this fuller life is one that people  need to work at.  </p>
<p>My own efforts to help men in this regard is a film (see: <a href="http://www.fathersandsons.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.fathersandsons.com.au</a>) i made to demysitify mens groups which, I believe, can help men develop the softer emotions they experience, and be supported in the process.  Many men have said they go home &#8216;quieter&#8217;, more ready to be available to the support their partners can give, and they are also more capable of giving that support.  But again, it requires work.  </p>
<p>I have also seen many women with the &#8216;stellar careers&#8217; begin to show the same attributes we have come to expect from the traditional male: stress, anger, and certainly little or no overt emotion like weeping.    </p>
<p>As for the divisiveness perpetrated by the &#8216;battle of the sexes&#8217;, enough said.</p>
<p>Thank you Susan Rosenthal for the article.  I will pass it on.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stop infant genital mutilation!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh really Chris?  Tell that to an African America MAN or a native American MAN or an Asian MAN or a Latino MAN or even a white working man or white homeless man.

I also guess you never read the Constitution of the Iroquois Confederacy that actually formed the basis for the U.S. Constitution whereby women played a large role in the Iroquois society and women played large roles in native societies that were unfortunately conquered by the Europeans.

Your remarks reflect that same kind of misanthropic ignorance and stereotypes that exacerbates division that has IMO resulted in silence on the left on this issue.

Unlike race, sex is NOT a social construct but absolute biology and by using patriarchy, the ruling class, as the author states turn our most initmate desire for being against us.  

Patriarchy enables working class men to believe they have the same interest as the ruling class men.  Feminism also has done the same to women giving them the opiate of capitalist bourgeois and blame shifting.  Ironically this has resulted for the most part people looking to the very system (courts) that repress us for &quot;solutions&quot;.

It is very easy to blame an entire group but to blame an entire &quot;sex&quot; means that boys upon birth are part of the ruling class.  An absurd notion.

&lt;i&gt;What’s truly ironic is that it takes a woman to write this article because only a woman has enough compassion to give a shit what happens to men and boys as a group – most men don’t give a damn unless it’s their very own precious ass getting kicked.&lt;/i&gt;

There are articles written by men that express the aforementioned concerns however what makes this article important is that it is written with an analysis of capitalism&#039;s influence on men as a group.  Many articles written by &quot;men&quot; groups are reactionary and doesn&#039;t offer any analysis of capitalism. Liberals who write articles tend to reject any options by men who have been victimized and feminist tend to be  dismissive and cynical.  Such attitudes prolongs the notion of  &quot;the battle of the sexes&quot; which is intended to instill distrust and the rejection of solidarity.  That is what is disappointing about your sentiments and reaction to the author&#039;s analysis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh really Chris?  Tell that to an African America MAN or a native American MAN or an Asian MAN or a Latino MAN or even a white working man or white homeless man.</p>
<p>I also guess you never read the Constitution of the Iroquois Confederacy that actually formed the basis for the U.S. Constitution whereby women played a large role in the Iroquois society and women played large roles in native societies that were unfortunately conquered by the Europeans.</p>
<p>Your remarks reflect that same kind of misanthropic ignorance and stereotypes that exacerbates division that has IMO resulted in silence on the left on this issue.</p>
<p>Unlike race, sex is NOT a social construct but absolute biology and by using patriarchy, the ruling class, as the author states turn our most initmate desire for being against us.  </p>
<p>Patriarchy enables working class men to believe they have the same interest as the ruling class men.  Feminism also has done the same to women giving them the opiate of capitalist bourgeois and blame shifting.  Ironically this has resulted for the most part people looking to the very system (courts) that repress us for &#8220;solutions&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is very easy to blame an entire group but to blame an entire &#8220;sex&#8221; means that boys upon birth are part of the ruling class.  An absurd notion.</p>
<p><i>What’s truly ironic is that it takes a woman to write this article because only a woman has enough compassion to give a shit what happens to men and boys as a group – most men don’t give a damn unless it’s their very own precious ass getting kicked.</i></p>
<p>There are articles written by men that express the aforementioned concerns however what makes this article important is that it is written with an analysis of capitalism&#8217;s influence on men as a group.  Many articles written by &#8220;men&#8221; groups are reactionary and doesn&#8217;t offer any analysis of capitalism. Liberals who write articles tend to reject any options by men who have been victimized and feminist tend to be  dismissive and cynical.  Such attitudes prolongs the notion of  &#8220;the battle of the sexes&#8221; which is intended to instill distrust and the rejection of solidarity.  That is what is disappointing about your sentiments and reaction to the author&#8217;s analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess you don&#039;t have to think or write clearly to get a medical degree. This article has no central thesis (despite the promise of the title) or hard evidence for what are basically just one woman&#039;s opinions. Yes men suffer from the ridiculous ways we have developed our social structures, but they are the beneficiaries of the outrageous imbalance of power in this society. They make up the vast majority of legislators, decision- and opinion-makers, and CEOs in this country. Men are the purpetrators of well over 90% of sexual and physical abuse. Men commit suicide at a higher rate, true, and they kill their female partners and ex-partners at an obscene rate, too. Sad that men are oppressed by the shitty societal systems and institutions, but just look at who has been in power for thousands of years creating and maintaining those institutions and systems. What&#039;s truly ironic is that it takes a woman to write this article because only a woman has enough compassion to give a shit what happens to men and boys as a group – most men don&#039;t give a damn unless it&#039;s their very own precious ass getting kicked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you don&#8217;t have to think or write clearly to get a medical degree. This article has no central thesis (despite the promise of the title) or hard evidence for what are basically just one woman&#8217;s opinions. Yes men suffer from the ridiculous ways we have developed our social structures, but they are the beneficiaries of the outrageous imbalance of power in this society. They make up the vast majority of legislators, decision- and opinion-makers, and CEOs in this country. Men are the purpetrators of well over 90% of sexual and physical abuse. Men commit suicide at a higher rate, true, and they kill their female partners and ex-partners at an obscene rate, too. Sad that men are oppressed by the shitty societal systems and institutions, but just look at who has been in power for thousands of years creating and maintaining those institutions and systems. What&#8217;s truly ironic is that it takes a woman to write this article because only a woman has enough compassion to give a shit what happens to men and boys as a group – most men don&#8217;t give a damn unless it&#8217;s their very own precious ass getting kicked.</p>
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		<title>By: DV Professional</title>
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		<dc:creator>DV Professional</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finally, an article about men and domestic violence that isn&#039;t conservative  propaganda! As a feminist domestic violence professional who has transcended the dichotomies of biological sex, gender, and sexual orientation, I appreciate this power-conscious analysis of gender roles and domestic violence. Knowing that DV in LGBT communities occurs at the same rate as in heterosexual couples is peculiarly accepted among domestic violence professionals without questioning the &quot;male power&quot; models used to understand DV. While our patriarchal history could weigh heavily on the fact that mostly women experienced violence (which also explains why the DV movement was begun by women for women and is thus inherently biased), the answer may not be so simple. 

While I&#039;m not holding my breath for the powerlessness theory to take hold, I will definitely keep it in mind in my quest for a gender-neutral (yet gender-cognizant) theory of domestic violence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, an article about men and domestic violence that isn&#8217;t conservative  propaganda! As a feminist domestic violence professional who has transcended the dichotomies of biological sex, gender, and sexual orientation, I appreciate this power-conscious analysis of gender roles and domestic violence. Knowing that DV in LGBT communities occurs at the same rate as in heterosexual couples is peculiarly accepted among domestic violence professionals without questioning the &#8220;male power&#8221; models used to understand DV. While our patriarchal history could weigh heavily on the fact that mostly women experienced violence (which also explains why the DV movement was begun by women for women and is thus inherently biased), the answer may not be so simple. </p>
<p>While I&#8217;m not holding my breath for the powerlessness theory to take hold, I will definitely keep it in mind in my quest for a gender-neutral (yet gender-cognizant) theory of domestic violence.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 22:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Ms. Rosenthal for an excellent analysis.  IMO this is an issue that gets very little attention  and has very little discussion on the left.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Ms. Rosenthal for an excellent analysis.  IMO this is an issue that gets very little attention  and has very little discussion on the left.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is why I believe in advocating universal welfare.  The system allowed by ex-wife to use the children as tools of aggrandizement, repression, and exploitation.  Ms. Rosenthal is absolutely correct that the problem are the results of capitalist social relations.  There is no &quot;battle of the sexes&quot;.  That is rhetoric designed to divide and conquer everyone and to keep parasitic lawyers and other henchmen employed.  

Unfortunately the ruling class has many &quot;tools&quot; to weaken solidarity.  Racism being a long standing one.  The only solution is awareness and education to these social forces so that we can adjust our behavior and interaction toward each other while at the same time challenging the system that oppresses all of us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I believe in advocating universal welfare.  The system allowed by ex-wife to use the children as tools of aggrandizement, repression, and exploitation.  Ms. Rosenthal is absolutely correct that the problem are the results of capitalist social relations.  There is no &#8220;battle of the sexes&#8221;.  That is rhetoric designed to divide and conquer everyone and to keep parasitic lawyers and other henchmen employed.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately the ruling class has many &#8220;tools&#8221; to weaken solidarity.  Racism being a long standing one.  The only solution is awareness and education to these social forces so that we can adjust our behavior and interaction toward each other while at the same time challenging the system that oppresses all of us.</p>
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