Comments on: What Lies Beneath: Privileged Grotesques, Ordinary Monsters and the Iraqi Deathscape http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:52:44 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: sheldon g http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-3789 sheldon g Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:54:38 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-3789 "i m a member fo the F.V.K!!" “i m a member fo the F.V.K!!”

]]> By: Ed McDade http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-3116 Ed McDade Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:14:35 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-3116 Yo Phil-Your vampire image is right on. Hey in my old hood, we would just call bush a "fuckin' jerk off". They just waste your time with facist dreck, piss all over our beautiful Mother Earth and then sell us useless shit that we don't need. Listen, I think we are at the begining of something new and possitive or we're about to go over the cliff(I sure hope it's the former) Power to the People!! Yo Phil-Your vampire image is right on. Hey in my old hood, we would just call bush a “fuckin’ jerk off”. They just waste your time with facist dreck, piss all over our beautiful Mother Earth and then sell us useless shit that we don’t need. Listen, I think we are at the begining of something new and possitive or we’re about to go over the cliff(I sure hope it’s the former)
Power to the People!!

]]> By: Finn O' Connor http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-3023 Finn O' Connor Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:43:41 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-3023 Hmmm, compassion? I like it, and it is an essential ingredient for what we all want (peace AND social justice!). I like this piece, however self-loathing. I am unhappy to say, my interaction with US folk on the net has left me a bit unimpressed by their grasp of world affairs and inability to engage in discussion without resorting to mudslinging. Yes, I am Irish and no, that does not mean I am a terrorist and therefore forfeit my right to a point of view! This kind of reaction (common, I'm afraid) does not speak well of an understanding of current affairs, so there's no point hiding what Phil is saying. The problem isn't some flaw in American people..i see it as stemming from your insane corporate/media set up and your laughable 'political' system. Both ensure change is almost impossible. Almost. Discussion like this one will always ensure a glimmer of possibility. Love n respect, Finn. .....and compassion! Hmmm, compassion? I like it, and it is an essential ingredient for what we all want (peace AND social justice!). I like this piece, however self-loathing. I am unhappy to say, my interaction with US folk on the net has left me a bit unimpressed by their grasp of world affairs and inability to engage in discussion without resorting to mudslinging. Yes, I am Irish and no, that does not mean I am a terrorist and therefore forfeit my right to a point of view! This kind of reaction (common, I’m afraid) does not speak well of an understanding of current affairs, so there’s no point hiding what Phil is saying. The problem isn’t some flaw in American people..i see it as stemming from your insane corporate/media set up and your laughable ‘political’ system. Both ensure change is almost impossible.
Almost. Discussion like this one will always ensure a glimmer of possibility.
Love n respect, Finn. …..and compassion!

]]> By: Joe Ayer http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-2999 Joe Ayer Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:44:03 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-2999 "To reverse this situation...To survive, first, we must find the monster within, then drive a stake through its heart." Between your two declarative statements there is the uninterrupted drone of clever cynical castigation and sadistic sarcasm that will soon lead us inevitably back to the next Rockstroh indictment that will collectivize us all into soul sucking mindless and hungry American blobs muttering the name of Paris Hilton to keep our attentions distracted. Instead of chasing our linguistic tails with you, Phil, maybe, just maybe as you suggest, we could all coerce the monster within us, no matter how much we think we have minimized, muted and mutilated it with our cultivated self-rightousness and progressive purity.....and try something different - like compassion in thought and action. Compassion - how comical some will think, too simplistic, stinking of a religious connotation - but shall we all try it just for the collective novelty of it. Jojo “To reverse this situation…To survive, first, we must find the monster within, then drive a stake through its heart.”
Between your two declarative statements there is the uninterrupted drone of clever cynical castigation and sadistic sarcasm that will soon lead us inevitably back to the next Rockstroh indictment that will collectivize us all into soul sucking mindless and hungry American blobs muttering the name of Paris Hilton to keep our attentions distracted.
Instead of chasing our linguistic tails with you, Phil, maybe, just maybe as you suggest, we could all coerce the monster within us, no matter how much we think we have minimized, muted and mutilated it with our cultivated self-rightousness and progressive purity…..and try something different – like compassion in thought and action.
Compassion – how comical some will think, too simplistic, stinking of a religious connotation – but shall we all try it just for the collective novelty of it.
Jojo

]]> By: Roy Murtishaw http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-2959 Roy Murtishaw Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:05:35 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-2959 " We are: The Fat, Mindless Blobs That Ate the Planet. " Phil, As a resident of the Wal-Mart State ( Arkansas ), one need only visit that neighborhood ' evil empire ' to see first hand an example of the NOT-WEE, WE'S of whom you speak: mindless, obese, Bovine-Americans; stuffed on empty calories, short-term greed and disregard for any consideration of others who might delay self-serving gratification. Amoral corporatism has so infected our society that we cattle crowd every aisle that leads to our present moral, intellectual, compassion. humaneness 'American Idol'- idle. Roy ” We are: The Fat, Mindless Blobs That Ate the Planet. ”

Phil,
As a resident of the Wal-Mart State ( Arkansas ), one need only visit that neighborhood ‘ evil empire ‘ to see first hand an example of the NOT-WEE, WE’S of whom you speak: mindless, obese, Bovine-Americans; stuffed on empty calories, short-term greed and disregard for any consideration of others who might delay self-serving gratification. Amoral corporatism has so infected our society that we
cattle crowd every aisle that leads to our present moral, intellectual,
compassion. humaneness ‘American Idol’- idle. Roy

]]> By: Jan Allen http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-2944 Jan Allen Sun, 15 Jul 2007 04:15:03 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-2944 We are not alone in this seemingly voiceless protest, and above the din, the shrill cacophony of the aptly portrayed 'undead', those nascent vampires of our times, will RISE the cries of those 'liberated', elevated to the forum of the 'Republic of the grave' where all are equal and colorless. I am convinced that the pendulum will swing, will eventually strike down those bloodthirsty architects of this evil empire, this 'Coalition of the Killing' whose lust for a delusional glory, for 'endless' power, for empire and pharaonic legacy will all go the way of cursed 'gods' whose ends are but as dust. The struggle for justice will continue regardless, let us not despair that fact and, in the face so much white noise that is generated by a so-called technological superiority, is written, in the annals of history of the certitude of a dismal failure. This truth is already evident in 'theater of war' that is now playing to a full house in the Middle East. A story of 'Vietnam Revisited' We are not alone in this seemingly voiceless protest, and above the din, the shrill cacophony of the aptly portrayed ‘undead’, those nascent vampires of our times, will RISE the cries of those ‘liberated’, elevated to the forum of the ‘Republic of the grave’ where all are equal and colorless.

I am convinced that the pendulum will swing, will eventually strike down those bloodthirsty architects of this evil empire, this ‘Coalition of the Killing’ whose lust for a delusional glory, for ‘endless’ power, for empire and pharaonic legacy will all go the way of cursed ‘gods’ whose ends are but as dust.

The struggle for justice will continue regardless, let us not despair that fact and, in the face so much white noise that is generated by a so-called technological superiority, is written, in the annals of history of the certitude of a dismal failure. This truth is already evident in ‘theater of war’ that is now playing to a full house in the Middle East. A story of ‘Vietnam Revisited’

]]> By: Paul Walters http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-2810 Paul Walters Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:42:13 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-2810 Those pesky arctic glaziers. I prefer my glassware made in the lower 48..... Those pesky arctic glaziers. I prefer my glassware made in the lower 48…..

]]> By: Eric http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-2801 Eric Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:06:12 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/what-lies-beneath-privileged-grotesques-ordinary-monsters-and-the-iraqi-deathscape/#comment-2801 Am I the only monster that heard the wake up call today? I guess it's hard to get people to look in a mirror, especially if they're scared of the eventuality where they might see nobody standing in there. It surely is where we can look given the possibilities to confront such problems. Especially if we consider any laughable attempts such as Live Earth and the like, the real message should get through before the corporate "moral persons" of this netherworld set up to look as if they will (yet again) "save the day" and be the ones looking good in the end. And still, it would be easy to cut the funds of those terrorists by simply stoping to consume what they produce. I'm just happy to know it will end soon enough, and not in the Hollywood movie fashion we all like. Are you ready for the final test? Am I the only monster that heard the wake up call today? I guess it’s hard to get people to look in a mirror, especially if they’re scared of the eventuality where they might see nobody standing in there. It surely is where we can look given the possibilities to confront such problems. Especially if we consider any laughable attempts such as Live Earth and the like, the real message should get through before the corporate “moral persons” of this netherworld set up to look as if they will (yet again) “save the day” and be the ones looking good in the end. And still, it would be easy to cut the funds of those terrorists by simply stoping to consume what they produce. I’m just happy to know it will end soon enough, and not in the Hollywood movie fashion we all like. Are you ready for the final test?

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