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		<title>By: Nobody</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/minority-rule-at-depaul-university/#comment-6126</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a former student of one of those afore mentioned profs. Let me tell you that intellectuals make a TRUTH out of their beliefs and the framework from which they assess a situation/ideological belief. There is a certain religiosity that pervades their intellectualism which has nothing to do with God or religion persay. They hold steadfast to their &quot;humanistic &quot;  &quot;ideals&quot; and make relics out of them and they become  ideological tyrants when we fail to see their world from their so called &quot;objective&quot; truths. These men place a hegemony on truth and use worls like &quot;progressive&quot; and &quot;liberal&quot; to mask their steadfastness and religosity of their beliefs. Go figure that one out. Ever heard of a religious atheist? Well, that&#039;s what some of the profs at DePaul are, they are people who make their own seemingly objective standards about what truth is...They project their own ideological beliefs onto the theories which they promulgate that though they claim objectivity their is a hint of their own ideals that deeply and subtly penetrate their beliefs.

You think that one of those three profs has never spoken so ill about religion or relgious beleiefs, guess again. They sabatoge religous beleifs to a first degree...Idaresay that anybody who vouches for these hypocritical professors ought to take  a class with them and see how scathing their attacks are and how unwilling they are to listen to religous beliefs other than their own.  They make themselves gods of their own order...

Watchout for a world leader that embodies their humansitic ideals and crowns himself King of &quot;truth.&quot; 

As for Father (the guy is a priest for pete&#039;s sake) Dennis Holtschneider, I  highly recommend that he take a hard look at those three profs and see what damage these humanistic profs to these young kids by telling themm that they can create their own truth and as such many of these kids go on to justify their own selfish desires by claiming a stake on truth and justifyign their beliefs and actions by saying that they can be truts unto themselves....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a former student of one of those afore mentioned profs. Let me tell you that intellectuals make a TRUTH out of their beliefs and the framework from which they assess a situation/ideological belief. There is a certain religiosity that pervades their intellectualism which has nothing to do with God or religion persay. They hold steadfast to their &#8220;humanistic &#8221;  &#8220;ideals&#8221; and make relics out of them and they become  ideological tyrants when we fail to see their world from their so called &#8220;objective&#8221; truths. These men place a hegemony on truth and use worls like &#8220;progressive&#8221; and &#8220;liberal&#8221; to mask their steadfastness and religosity of their beliefs. Go figure that one out. Ever heard of a religious atheist? Well, that&#8217;s what some of the profs at DePaul are, they are people who make their own seemingly objective standards about what truth is&#8230;They project their own ideological beliefs onto the theories which they promulgate that though they claim objectivity their is a hint of their own ideals that deeply and subtly penetrate their beliefs.</p>
<p>You think that one of those three profs has never spoken so ill about religion or relgious beleiefs, guess again. They sabatoge religous beleifs to a first degree&#8230;Idaresay that anybody who vouches for these hypocritical professors ought to take  a class with them and see how scathing their attacks are and how unwilling they are to listen to religous beliefs other than their own.  They make themselves gods of their own order&#8230;</p>
<p>Watchout for a world leader that embodies their humansitic ideals and crowns himself King of &#8220;truth.&#8221; </p>
<p>As for Father (the guy is a priest for pete&#8217;s sake) Dennis Holtschneider, I  highly recommend that he take a hard look at those three profs and see what damage these humanistic profs to these young kids by telling themm that they can create their own truth and as such many of these kids go on to justify their own selfish desires by claiming a stake on truth and justifyign their beliefs and actions by saying that they can be truts unto themselves&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom3</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/minority-rule-at-depaul-university/#comment-3285</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the beginning of the end of academic freedom in the US.

Welcome to the New World Order.  Big Brother is Watching YOU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the beginning of the end of academic freedom in the US.</p>
<p>Welcome to the New World Order.  Big Brother is Watching YOU.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Petersen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/minority-rule-at-depaul-university/#comment-2619</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The minority report was leaked to some writers covering the issue and is not online.  Sorry.</description>
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		<title>By: Frank-O-Phone</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/minority-rule-at-depaul-university/#comment-2611</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank-O-Phone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim, Great analysis!  Can you provide a link to the minority report?  Where has it been &quot;leaked&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim, Great analysis!  Can you provide a link to the minority report?  Where has it been &#8220;leaked&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: LanceThruster</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/minority-rule-at-depaul-university/#comment-2585</link>
		<dc:creator>LanceThruster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Finkelstein&#039;s tenure denial is but one of many &#039;crimes&#039; taking place in plain sight. The arguments in his favor are rock solid and have been expressed quite articulately by yourself and others. The attacks against him are clearly biased, poorly crafted and barely hide their own agenda.  I want to be optimistic but Dr. F is considered just too important a target to be let loose amongst the hypocrites and frauds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Finkelstein&#8217;s tenure denial is but one of many &#8216;crimes&#8217; taking place in plain sight. The arguments in his favor are rock solid and have been expressed quite articulately by yourself and others. The attacks against him are clearly biased, poorly crafted and barely hide their own agenda.  I want to be optimistic but Dr. F is considered just too important a target to be let loose amongst the hypocrites and frauds.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie Tibbs</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/minority-rule-at-depaul-university/#comment-2454</link>
		<dc:creator>Angie Tibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 02:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s curious that DePaul University would give any credence to Alan Dershowitz.  He is not a professor at DePaul, nor, to my knowledge, is he sitting on any tenure board or committee associated with the university.  Yet his condemnation of Dr. Norman Finkelstein, which has been continuous over the years, played a role in the pusillanimous decision by the Reverend Holtschneider to deny Dr. Finkelstein tenure.   This is very troubling, and calls into question the integrity of DePaul and what, if anything, it stands for.   

We cannot remain silent when freedom of speech, and even more frightening, freedom of thought are threatened.  Academic freedom must never be jeopardized.   Every time good people, learned people, people who stand for truth and justice,  who are working for the betterment of humanity are silenced, evil triumphs. 

Kim Petersen, this is an awesome piece of writing.  Your meticulous research, coupled with your point by point logic, which completely demolishes the nonsense comments of the DePaul &quot;minority”, makes this one of the best written and most informed article I&#039;ve read on this topic.  Well done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s curious that DePaul University would give any credence to Alan Dershowitz.  He is not a professor at DePaul, nor, to my knowledge, is he sitting on any tenure board or committee associated with the university.  Yet his condemnation of Dr. Norman Finkelstein, which has been continuous over the years, played a role in the pusillanimous decision by the Reverend Holtschneider to deny Dr. Finkelstein tenure.   This is very troubling, and calls into question the integrity of DePaul and what, if anything, it stands for.   </p>
<p>We cannot remain silent when freedom of speech, and even more frightening, freedom of thought are threatened.  Academic freedom must never be jeopardized.   Every time good people, learned people, people who stand for truth and justice,  who are working for the betterment of humanity are silenced, evil triumphs. </p>
<p>Kim Petersen, this is an awesome piece of writing.  Your meticulous research, coupled with your point by point logic, which completely demolishes the nonsense comments of the DePaul &#8220;minority”, makes this one of the best written and most informed article I&#8217;ve read on this topic.  Well done!</p>
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		<title>By: Carol White</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/minority-rule-at-depaul-university/#comment-2433</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will step forward as a practicing Catholic, albeit not the Vincentian kind, and say that I fully would support Professor Finkelstein and academic freedom and not DePaul.  If the theory is that &quot;academic freedom&quot; means you play nicely in the sandbox to someone who screams louder such as Professor Dershowitz, then this Catholic University has lost its way.  Groveling to other scholars doesn&#039;t add anything to the world of scholarship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will step forward as a practicing Catholic, albeit not the Vincentian kind, and say that I fully would support Professor Finkelstein and academic freedom and not DePaul.  If the theory is that &#8220;academic freedom&#8221; means you play nicely in the sandbox to someone who screams louder such as Professor Dershowitz, then this Catholic University has lost its way.  Groveling to other scholars doesn&#8217;t add anything to the world of scholarship.</p>
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		<title>By: Hue Longer</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/minority-rule-at-depaul-university/#comment-2409</link>
		<dc:creator>Hue Longer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 08:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the logic Kim.  I don&#039;t think the three believed in the fallacies they proffered, but were at least slightly relieved that most people have been head fucked into believing that truths are merely opinions.  &quot;You&#039;re entitled to your opinion&quot;.  &quot;Opinions are like assholes&quot;.  &quot;That&#039;s your truth&quot; .  In this kind of subjective world, pointing out ad hominem (the true AH- not, &quot;he called me an idiot&quot;!), well poisoning or any other friend to cog dis is pointless to the Kenny&#039;s of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the logic Kim.  I don&#8217;t think the three believed in the fallacies they proffered, but were at least slightly relieved that most people have been head fucked into believing that truths are merely opinions.  &#8220;You&#8217;re entitled to your opinion&#8221;.  &#8220;Opinions are like assholes&#8221;.  &#8220;That&#8217;s your truth&#8221; .  In this kind of subjective world, pointing out ad hominem (the true AH- not, &#8220;he called me an idiot&#8221;!), well poisoning or any other friend to cog dis is pointless to the Kenny&#8217;s of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: John Zavesky</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/minority-rule-at-depaul-university/#comment-2378</link>
		<dc:creator>John Zavesky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironic how Professor Finkelstein&#039;s denial of tenure and subsequent dismisal from DePaul has received scant coverage in Israeli or Jewish media. If it was Dershowitz that was being fired the outcry from Jews would be deafening. How quick they are to sacrifice one of their own for &quot;the cause.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironic how Professor Finkelstein&#8217;s denial of tenure and subsequent dismisal from DePaul has received scant coverage in Israeli or Jewish media. If it was Dershowitz that was being fired the outcry from Jews would be deafening. How quick they are to sacrifice one of their own for &#8220;the cause.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Petersen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/minority-rule-at-depaul-university/#comment-2375</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 17:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Michael Kenny&lt;/strong&gt;: “Has it never dawned on anyone just how much damage all this is uproar and attacks on DePaul is doing?” 

Duh!

&lt;strong&gt;Michael Kenny&lt;/strong&gt;: “The message for Catholic universities is clear: don’t employ non-Catholic professors, in particular Jewish ones, they’re more trouble than they’re worth!” 

Wow! Great solution. Let’s discriminate!

&lt;strong&gt;Michael Kenny&lt;/strong&gt;: “It is worth noting that not one of Finkelstein’s detractors has said a single word in defence of DePaul and not one his defenders claims to be Catholic.” 

Why defend the indefensible?

&lt;strong&gt;Michael Kenny&lt;/strong&gt;: “[NF] has dragged De Paul into a fight which is of no concern to Catholics and in which nobody, on either side of the argument, gives a damn about the interests of DePaul or the Church in general.”

Oh really? Catholics and the Catholic Church do not care about peace and justice in the Middle East? How about academic freedom? No concern of Catholics?

&lt;strong&gt;Michael Kenny&lt;/strong&gt;: “As for minority rule, the Catholic Church is ruled by a minority of one, currently that elderly German gentleman in Rome. If every Catholic on earth votes aye and the Pope votes nay, the nays have it!”

Thanks for making my point, although off topic. Where has the dictatorial policy of the Catholic Church got it? Why did Protestantism and the Anglican Church arise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Michael Kenny</strong>: “Has it never dawned on anyone just how much damage all this is uproar and attacks on DePaul is doing?” </p>
<p>Duh!</p>
<p><strong>Michael Kenny</strong>: “The message for Catholic universities is clear: don’t employ non-Catholic professors, in particular Jewish ones, they’re more trouble than they’re worth!” </p>
<p>Wow! Great solution. Let’s discriminate!</p>
<p><strong>Michael Kenny</strong>: “It is worth noting that not one of Finkelstein’s detractors has said a single word in defence of DePaul and not one his defenders claims to be Catholic.” </p>
<p>Why defend the indefensible?</p>
<p><strong>Michael Kenny</strong>: “[NF] has dragged De Paul into a fight which is of no concern to Catholics and in which nobody, on either side of the argument, gives a damn about the interests of DePaul or the Church in general.”</p>
<p>Oh really? Catholics and the Catholic Church do not care about peace and justice in the Middle East? How about academic freedom? No concern of Catholics?</p>
<p><strong>Michael Kenny</strong>: “As for minority rule, the Catholic Church is ruled by a minority of one, currently that elderly German gentleman in Rome. If every Catholic on earth votes aye and the Pope votes nay, the nays have it!”</p>
<p>Thanks for making my point, although off topic. Where has the dictatorial policy of the Catholic Church got it? Why did Protestantism and the Anglican Church arise?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/minority-rule-at-depaul-university/#comment-2364</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has it never dawned on anyone just how much damage all this is uproar and attacks on DePaul is doing? The message for Catholic universities is clear: don&#039;t employ non-Catholic professors, in particular Jewish ones, they&#039;re more trouble than they&#039;re worth! It is worth noting that not one of Finkelstein&#039;s detractors has said a single word in defence of DePaul and not one his defenders claims to be Catholic. That is precisely the problem with NF. He has dragged De Paul into a fight which is of no concern to Catholics and in which nobody, on either side of the argument, gives a damn about the interests of DePaul or the Church in general.

As for minority rule, the Catholic Church is ruled by a minority of one, currently that elderly German gentleman in Rome. If every Catholic on earth votes aye and the Pope votes nay, the nays have it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has it never dawned on anyone just how much damage all this is uproar and attacks on DePaul is doing? The message for Catholic universities is clear: don&#8217;t employ non-Catholic professors, in particular Jewish ones, they&#8217;re more trouble than they&#8217;re worth! It is worth noting that not one of Finkelstein&#8217;s detractors has said a single word in defence of DePaul and not one his defenders claims to be Catholic. That is precisely the problem with NF. He has dragged De Paul into a fight which is of no concern to Catholics and in which nobody, on either side of the argument, gives a damn about the interests of DePaul or the Church in general.</p>
<p>As for minority rule, the Catholic Church is ruled by a minority of one, currently that elderly German gentleman in Rome. If every Catholic on earth votes aye and the Pope votes nay, the nays have it!</p>
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