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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/live-earth-is-doa/#comment-2837</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read an excellent article by Mike Whitney today on CounterPunch about how Putin (Russia) has outflanked the U.S on issue related to energy.  Similarly Hugo Chavez as well as Iran.  We know that China and India is also expanding their economies.  I wonder if all this Al Gore environmentalism is just the Liberals attempt to cover up their  imperialistic aims by using the bourgeois and the naive to inhibit the growth of these emerging economic rivals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read an excellent article by Mike Whitney today on CounterPunch about how Putin (Russia) has outflanked the U.S on issue related to energy.  Similarly Hugo Chavez as well as Iran.  We know that China and India is also expanding their economies.  I wonder if all this Al Gore environmentalism is just the Liberals attempt to cover up their  imperialistic aims by using the bourgeois and the naive to inhibit the growth of these emerging economic rivals.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/live-earth-is-doa/#comment-2836</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read an excellent article by Mike Whitney today on CounterPunch about how Putin (Russia) has outflanked the U.S on issue related to energy.  Similarily Hugo Chavez as well as Iran.  We know that China and India is also expanding their economies.  I wonder if all this Al Gore environmentalism is just the Liberal&#039;s attempt to cover up their  imperialistic aims by using the bourgeois and the naive to inhibit the growth of these emerging economic rivals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read an excellent article by Mike Whitney today on CounterPunch about how Putin (Russia) has outflanked the U.S on issue related to energy.  Similarily Hugo Chavez as well as Iran.  We know that China and India is also expanding their economies.  I wonder if all this Al Gore environmentalism is just the Liberal&#8217;s attempt to cover up their  imperialistic aims by using the bourgeois and the naive to inhibit the growth of these emerging economic rivals.</p>
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		<title>By: Baroness Blossom Von Gutenkatzen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/live-earth-is-doa/#comment-2828</link>
		<dc:creator>Baroness Blossom Von Gutenkatzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The deservedly dismal ratings of Live Earth can be attributed in part to You Tube.  After all, why endure endless hours of Sting, backstage interviews with clueless, pampered celebrities and interminable speeches by righteous hypocrites between pre-barfed up mouthfuls of caviar and champagne, when you can condense the whole ordeal down to a couple of minutes of downloaded video?  Thanks to You Tube, I didn&#039;t have to sit through this miserable spectacle just to see what Madonna was wearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The deservedly dismal ratings of Live Earth can be attributed in part to You Tube.  After all, why endure endless hours of Sting, backstage interviews with clueless, pampered celebrities and interminable speeches by righteous hypocrites between pre-barfed up mouthfuls of caviar and champagne, when you can condense the whole ordeal down to a couple of minutes of downloaded video?  Thanks to You Tube, I didn&#8217;t have to sit through this miserable spectacle just to see what Madonna was wearing.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Fields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/live-earth-is-doa/#comment-2722</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam,
Yes! We are awash with petro. Nothing is not in some way shape or form driven by that black gold. And we have treated this natural non-renewable as if it was a slave to our avarice. But that is about to end. Peak oil began in 1970, and while the oil men scour the planet for a few more drops, like a twightlight zone episode, they&#039;re travels will take them to a cul-de-sac.

The awakening, for those who needed it, was an inconvenient truth.
Beyond that Gore has begun to wear thin, due, in large part, to his mistaken &quot;next step&quot; following that film. The venue and its likeness to all the other meaningless celeb driven &quot;feel good&quot; is a magical reality, but nothing more.

The convergence of the problems and the collision that is upon us makes Gore&#039;s show a last dance on the Titanic, at best. In other words, the cynicism is not Stacie&#039;s, but Gore&#039;s. Not, perhaps with intent, but by its sheer lack of congruence with the reality, which demands far more than some minor adjustments (&quot;all together now&quot;. 

As you&#039;ve alluded, Adam, we live on borrowed time, borrowed from our continued unwillingness to face the profound limitations of our environment. The truth, the planet is heating up, and the oil is running out, and our economy forces us into wars to &quot;protect&quot; the oil.  While with the other hand the economic forces of an overextended empire are collapsing the very system which puts us all in harms way.

Yes, totally unsustainable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,<br />
Yes! We are awash with petro. Nothing is not in some way shape or form driven by that black gold. And we have treated this natural non-renewable as if it was a slave to our avarice. But that is about to end. Peak oil began in 1970, and while the oil men scour the planet for a few more drops, like a twightlight zone episode, they&#8217;re travels will take them to a cul-de-sac.</p>
<p>The awakening, for those who needed it, was an inconvenient truth.<br />
Beyond that Gore has begun to wear thin, due, in large part, to his mistaken &#8220;next step&#8221; following that film. The venue and its likeness to all the other meaningless celeb driven &#8220;feel good&#8221; is a magical reality, but nothing more.</p>
<p>The convergence of the problems and the collision that is upon us makes Gore&#8217;s show a last dance on the Titanic, at best. In other words, the cynicism is not Stacie&#8217;s, but Gore&#8217;s. Not, perhaps with intent, but by its sheer lack of congruence with the reality, which demands far more than some minor adjustments (&#8221;all together now&#8221;. </p>
<p>As you&#8217;ve alluded, Adam, we live on borrowed time, borrowed from our continued unwillingness to face the profound limitations of our environment. The truth, the planet is heating up, and the oil is running out, and our economy forces us into wars to &#8220;protect&#8221; the oil.  While with the other hand the economic forces of an overextended empire are collapsing the very system which puts us all in harms way.</p>
<p>Yes, totally unsustainable.</p>
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		<title>By: Hue Longer</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/live-earth-is-doa/#comment-2714</link>
		<dc:creator>Hue Longer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and to those few who wonder...this is definite proof that Selloutica are the same stupid *unts who lost all credibility after &quot;...And Justice for All&quot;.  It&#039;s like their child like rebellious instincts were a fuck of lot smarter than their &quot;realistic&quot; adult passage that came with establishment handlers telling them what to do for maturity and money.  Stay young hippies--no matter how much more experience establishment has at sounding smarter...or you to could end up like the vapant millionares Crapallica became.  God, I hope that wasn&#039;t a sales pitch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and to those few who wonder&#8230;this is definite proof that Selloutica are the same stupid *unts who lost all credibility after &#8220;&#8230;And Justice for All&#8221;.  It&#8217;s like their child like rebellious instincts were a fuck of lot smarter than their &#8220;realistic&#8221; adult passage that came with establishment handlers telling them what to do for maturity and money.  Stay young hippies&#8211;no matter how much more experience establishment has at sounding smarter&#8230;or you to could end up like the vapant millionares Crapallica became.  God, I hope that wasn&#8217;t a sales pitch!</p>
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		<title>By: Hue Longer</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/live-earth-is-doa/#comment-2712</link>
		<dc:creator>Hue Longer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How the fuck did Al Gore become a sacred cow?!  I can&#039;t any more even  get people to listen when I tell them FDR was a fraud.  Gore makes him look like Mother Muhatma Chirista Mary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How the fuck did Al Gore become a sacred cow?!  I can&#8217;t any more even  get people to listen when I tell them FDR was a fraud.  Gore makes him look like Mother Muhatma Chirista Mary.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/live-earth-is-doa/#comment-2709</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this piece, Stacie. 
Long-time performing acts like Metalica and most others on the Live Earth bill have traveled so much that they rightly have their own personal ozone holes. 

To Michelle -- 
 This whole petroleum-fueled system which every U.S. citizen alive today was born into, which provides us with just about everything we know --  from our entertainment to the very food we live on, is totally unsustainable and getting worse and worse faster and faster.  99% of us, including the Al Gore fan-club, are in relatively near complete denial of the severity of our situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this piece, Stacie.<br />
Long-time performing acts like Metalica and most others on the Live Earth bill have traveled so much that they rightly have their own personal ozone holes. </p>
<p>To Michelle &#8212;<br />
 This whole petroleum-fueled system which every U.S. citizen alive today was born into, which provides us with just about everything we know &#8212;  from our entertainment to the very food we live on, is totally unsustainable and getting worse and worse faster and faster.  99% of us, including the Al Gore fan-club, are in relatively near complete denial of the severity of our situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/live-earth-is-doa/#comment-2704</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should anyone accept a regressive Carbon Tax.  The Payroll Tax is clearly regressive and the burden have been increased on the Payroll Tax for nearly 30 years and income taxes and capital gains has been reduced for the rich and corporations.  Why non advocate a stock transaction tax instead and used the money to help reduce pollution.  Clearly Gore will not side against his class interest.  In fact Gore help to set up a lot of environment degradation throughout his political career.  As Senator he was a major advocate of military spending on exotic wasteful military programs such as the MX missile system.  As Veep he supported NAFTA and debated Ross Perot who was against NAFTA on Larry King back in 1994.  NAFTA protected the corporate interest allowing corporations to pollute the environment.

Al Gore also supported the repeal of welfare that the increase of the prison industrial complex.  The wasted human lives in prison is a very much an ENVIRONMENTAL problem.

Before anything can be done about the &quot;environment&quot; you have to deal with human injustices first.   Unfortunately you sound like an empty headed well-to-do liberal living in a bourgeois bubble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should anyone accept a regressive Carbon Tax.  The Payroll Tax is clearly regressive and the burden have been increased on the Payroll Tax for nearly 30 years and income taxes and capital gains has been reduced for the rich and corporations.  Why non advocate a stock transaction tax instead and used the money to help reduce pollution.  Clearly Gore will not side against his class interest.  In fact Gore help to set up a lot of environment degradation throughout his political career.  As Senator he was a major advocate of military spending on exotic wasteful military programs such as the MX missile system.  As Veep he supported NAFTA and debated Ross Perot who was against NAFTA on Larry King back in 1994.  NAFTA protected the corporate interest allowing corporations to pollute the environment.</p>
<p>Al Gore also supported the repeal of welfare that the increase of the prison industrial complex.  The wasted human lives in prison is a very much an ENVIRONMENTAL problem.</p>
<p>Before anything can be done about the &#8220;environment&#8221; you have to deal with human injustices first.   Unfortunately you sound like an empty headed well-to-do liberal living in a bourgeois bubble.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/live-earth-is-doa/#comment-2674</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone who, like me, really detests the cult of celebrity can sympathize with some of the barbs here.

BUT, as to the rest of the post, I really have to disagree with it.  Not only is there a great deal of ignorance on the fact about climate change, but the noise machine that is spreading a great deal of misinformation is not going to back down.  I think Live Earth was simply an attempt to drown out the noise machine.  I cannot say whether it has worked or will work, but I surely do appreciate the fact that there is someone out there who wants to drown out the noise machine and get this problem solved.

Please do not  merely excerpt one or two of the most facile solutions that Live Earth offers in its 7 point pledge, and hold them up to ridicule so that you can dismiss the entire effort.  First, the pledge itself calls for commitment to take action on a grassroots political level to change policies, including &quot;massive corporate waste and pollution&quot; that are at the root of the issue.  If there is anyone who has been vocal in pushing the envelope on these solutions, it is Al Gore.  For instance, he calls for a Carbon Tax to replace the Payroll Tax.  Now one of the candidates for 2008 has included a Carbon Tax in their platform.   Gore is working on many, many, many levels at once.  Please do not pettily, lazily dismiss his impressive policy proposals and extraordinary knowledge base on environmental issues  based on the frivolity on one concert series.  Live Earth is an effort to continue the work in a different sphere and to begin to engage a different group of people in whatever way they can become engaged on this issue.  And no one suggests that the concerts are the end of the effort.  To the contrary; the concert series is conceived as the kick-off to a years-long, sustained political, personal and grassroots effort.

For God&#039;s sake, cynicism is just too easy, isn&#039;t it?  Takes not thought or time to just lash out in ignorance, bash someone, and click to the next page.    Take a good, hard look at yourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone who, like me, really detests the cult of celebrity can sympathize with some of the barbs here.</p>
<p>BUT, as to the rest of the post, I really have to disagree with it.  Not only is there a great deal of ignorance on the fact about climate change, but the noise machine that is spreading a great deal of misinformation is not going to back down.  I think Live Earth was simply an attempt to drown out the noise machine.  I cannot say whether it has worked or will work, but I surely do appreciate the fact that there is someone out there who wants to drown out the noise machine and get this problem solved.</p>
<p>Please do not  merely excerpt one or two of the most facile solutions that Live Earth offers in its 7 point pledge, and hold them up to ridicule so that you can dismiss the entire effort.  First, the pledge itself calls for commitment to take action on a grassroots political level to change policies, including &#8220;massive corporate waste and pollution&#8221; that are at the root of the issue.  If there is anyone who has been vocal in pushing the envelope on these solutions, it is Al Gore.  For instance, he calls for a Carbon Tax to replace the Payroll Tax.  Now one of the candidates for 2008 has included a Carbon Tax in their platform.   Gore is working on many, many, many levels at once.  Please do not pettily, lazily dismiss his impressive policy proposals and extraordinary knowledge base on environmental issues  based on the frivolity on one concert series.  Live Earth is an effort to continue the work in a different sphere and to begin to engage a different group of people in whatever way they can become engaged on this issue.  And no one suggests that the concerts are the end of the effort.  To the contrary; the concert series is conceived as the kick-off to a years-long, sustained political, personal and grassroots effort.</p>
<p>For God&#8217;s sake, cynicism is just too easy, isn&#8217;t it?  Takes not thought or time to just lash out in ignorance, bash someone, and click to the next page.    Take a good, hard look at yourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Bizzy</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/live-earth-is-doa/#comment-2654</link>
		<dc:creator>Bizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha... as her blurb states, Stacy is CLEARLY anti-celebrity and I feel her.  I didn&#039;t catch any of the travesty, but I hear it stunk like garbage truck water.  

Not only are the purported solutions (change lightbulbs, more air in tires) known, but they&#039;re stupid and will create little if any gains.   Mr. Gore has no desire to address the massive corporate waste and pollution, the kind that&#039;s at the root of the issue.  That sounds too close to something like government regulation, and that would surely have an effect on his campaign donations, so leave them alone.  Better to tell voters and people to &quot;get their acts together&quot; than to address the real problem.

I wanna see Cynthia Mckinney team up with Nas, Wu-Tang, Talib Kweli, The Roots, Dead Prez, Jill Scott, Immortal Technique and others on an anti-war/power of civil disobedience concert!!    ... I&#039;m there for that one.

No Justice ... No Sleep
&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.SleptOn.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SleptOn.com&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha&#8230; as her blurb states, Stacy is CLEARLY anti-celebrity and I feel her.  I didn&#8217;t catch any of the travesty, but I hear it stunk like garbage truck water.  </p>
<p>Not only are the purported solutions (change lightbulbs, more air in tires) known, but they&#8217;re stupid and will create little if any gains.   Mr. Gore has no desire to address the massive corporate waste and pollution, the kind that&#8217;s at the root of the issue.  That sounds too close to something like government regulation, and that would surely have an effect on his campaign donations, so leave them alone.  Better to tell voters and people to &#8220;get their acts together&#8221; than to address the real problem.</p>
<p>I wanna see Cynthia Mckinney team up with Nas, Wu-Tang, Talib Kweli, The Roots, Dead Prez, Jill Scott, Immortal Technique and others on an anti-war/power of civil disobedience concert!!    &#8230; I&#8217;m there for that one.</p>
<p>No Justice &#8230; No Sleep<br />
<a HREF="http://www.SleptOn.com" rel="nofollow">SleptOn.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Palmer</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/live-earth-is-doa/#comment-2653</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Stacie, i agree with some of your article in as much as their were questionable choices that appeared this weekend, but your cynicism is typical of all media that has commented prior to, during and after Live Earth.  Your assumptions are without foundation, you honestly asked this question:

&quot;What person in their right mind would argue that human beings and all their amenities are not largely responsible for global warming&quot;

Have you even been following the medias dismissive attitude towards the IPCC report on human effect on global warming, the pathetic attempt to cloud the issue by claiming it&#039;s a theory and debateable.  When exactly did it become the accepted norm that we are causing global warming.  I don&#039;t believe it is, and until it is, then attention whores or whatever you want to call Gore and these celebs who attempt to shine light on these really quite serious and fast becoming irreversible problems, are essential... and lets face it preferable to our &#039;elected&#039; officials and business leaders who have to this point done fuck all.

When the sheeple reach your level of consciousness as far as understanding of global warming and how they are exaserbating the problem, then we will probably have to keep putting on shows like this to ensure pressure is brought to bear on the real problem as you put, &quot;a few crackpot nihilists parading as conservatives intent on raping mother earth for fun and profit&quot;.

BTW loved Bill Hicks too... Feb 26 1994 was just a terrible day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Stacie, i agree with some of your article in as much as their were questionable choices that appeared this weekend, but your cynicism is typical of all media that has commented prior to, during and after Live Earth.  Your assumptions are without foundation, you honestly asked this question:</p>
<p>&#8220;What person in their right mind would argue that human beings and all their amenities are not largely responsible for global warming&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you even been following the medias dismissive attitude towards the IPCC report on human effect on global warming, the pathetic attempt to cloud the issue by claiming it&#8217;s a theory and debateable.  When exactly did it become the accepted norm that we are causing global warming.  I don&#8217;t believe it is, and until it is, then attention whores or whatever you want to call Gore and these celebs who attempt to shine light on these really quite serious and fast becoming irreversible problems, are essential&#8230; and lets face it preferable to our &#8216;elected&#8217; officials and business leaders who have to this point done fuck all.</p>
<p>When the sheeple reach your level of consciousness as far as understanding of global warming and how they are exaserbating the problem, then we will probably have to keep putting on shows like this to ensure pressure is brought to bear on the real problem as you put, &#8220;a few crackpot nihilists parading as conservatives intent on raping mother earth for fun and profit&#8221;.</p>
<p>BTW loved Bill Hicks too&#8230; Feb 26 1994 was just a terrible day.</p>
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