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	<title>Comments on: Lessons From the U.S. Stance Towards Iran</title>
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		<title>By: JL Bryan</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/lessons-from-the-us-stance-towards-iran/#comment-45021</link>
		<dc:creator>JL Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 04:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m writing because I found where you discussed one of my articles (&quot;If Iran Were America&quot;) a while ago.

I thought you might be interested in reading my novel Dominion, which is available free at my new website www.JLBryanbooks.com.  

Dominion is set in a near-future totalitarian America, which has continued to expand its foreign wars even as it collapses internally.  The main character is a TV &quot;news&quot; reporter who begins digging for the truth behind the propaganda he reports.  The book builds on existing American culture and Austrian insights into the nature of the state.  You can download the full book as a free PDF

I hope you will visit the site, and you can also look at my other books available there.  

Thanks!
Jeff Bryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m writing because I found where you discussed one of my articles (&#8221;If Iran Were America&#8221;) a while ago.</p>
<p>I thought you might be interested in reading my novel Dominion, which is available free at my new website <a href="http://www.JLBryanbooks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.JLBryanbooks.com</a>.  </p>
<p>Dominion is set in a near-future totalitarian America, which has continued to expand its foreign wars even as it collapses internally.  The main character is a TV &#8220;news&#8221; reporter who begins digging for the truth behind the propaganda he reports.  The book builds on existing American culture and Austrian insights into the nature of the state.  You can download the full book as a free PDF</p>
<p>I hope you will visit the site, and you can also look at my other books available there.  </p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
Jeff Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McNiven</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/lessons-from-the-us-stance-towards-iran/#comment-4979</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McNiven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.iran-bulletin.org/Attack%20on%20Iran/NO%20WAR%20ON%20IRAN.htm</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy R. Hammond</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/lessons-from-the-us-stance-towards-iran/#comment-4890</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy R. Hammond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I can tell, the portion of the article relevent to the discussion here is the authors statement, “I wholeheartedly believe that a US war against Iran will be a catastrophe of unbelievable dimensions.”

As I wrote before in response to the several other links you posted critical of Iran (rightfully), “I wrote an article about US policy towards Iran and its consequences. A number of people have responded pointing out the oppressive nature of the Iranian regime. I agree and also think it’s horrible. Iran is hardly alone in being worthy of our criticism. However, it’s irrelevant to the point, unless, of course, people are trying to argue that US policy is justified because of the lack of justice and democracy in Iran. I don’t assume anyone is making that argument, but otherwise I don’t see the relevancy to the point of the article.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I can tell, the portion of the article relevent to the discussion here is the authors statement, “I wholeheartedly believe that a US war against Iran will be a catastrophe of unbelievable dimensions.”</p>
<p>As I wrote before in response to the several other links you posted critical of Iran (rightfully), “I wrote an article about US policy towards Iran and its consequences. A number of people have responded pointing out the oppressive nature of the Iranian regime. I agree and also think it’s horrible. Iran is hardly alone in being worthy of our criticism. However, it’s irrelevant to the point, unless, of course, people are trying to argue that US policy is justified because of the lack of justice and democracy in Iran. I don’t assume anyone is making that argument, but otherwise I don’t see the relevancy to the point of the article.”</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McNiven</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/lessons-from-the-us-stance-towards-iran/#comment-4884</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McNiven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 07:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please see an Iranian scholar’s view who lives in exile and –based on his own words– cares about Peace and Social Justice in his homeland: 

http://www.losangeleschronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=35885</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please see an Iranian scholar’s view who lives in exile and –based on his own words– cares about Peace and Social Justice in his homeland: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.losangeleschronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=35885" rel="nofollow">http://www.losangeleschronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=35885</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/lessons-from-the-us-stance-towards-iran/#comment-2829</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

Thank you for publishing my comments. I noticed there were few important mistakes and omissions in my last comment. Would be possible to replace it with this one (below)? 

Thank you,

Bob 

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Thank you very much Mr. Hammond for such this deep analytical and reflective article. 

Mr Bryan has also a nice reflective timeline story about the changing the role of Iran and the US, which I thought could be relevant to your article: 

(J. L. Bryan, “If Iran Were America (And We Were Iran): A Timeline”, at 
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/bryan2.html) 


The only missing element in Mr. Bryan article is the story of the shooting down of the civil commercial Iran Air Airbus flight (Flight 655) in the Persian Gulf, killing all 290 passengers including 66 children on July 3 1998, by USS Vincennes. For more detailed facts - even through westerners eyes - please see the documentary called Mayday TV series (Crash Scene Investigation). 

The outrageous reality is that (whether it was truly an error or not), Bush (father) said “I will never apologize for the United States of America—I don’t care what the facts are” in reference to the incident. The U.S. government issued notes of regret for the loss of human life but never admitted wrongdoing, accepted responsibility, nor apologized for the incident. 

As if this is not disgusting enough, the men of the Vincennes were all awarded combat-action ribbons. Lustig, the air-warfare co-ordinator, won the navy’s Commendation Medal for “heroic achievement,” noting his “ability to maintain his poise and confidence under fire!!!!” that enabled him to “quickly and precisely complete the firing procedure”. 

But the shocking fact – as you will see in the documentary – is that on the time of shouting, the USS Vincennes was 4 kilometres inside the Iranian boundary and not in the international waters! (Attack someone at home) 

To accommodate this to Mr. Bryan timeline story, the tale would be that Iran sent its navy in the Gulf of Mexico – inside the US waters, and then shut down a 737 Boeing of the American Airline with 300 passengers, flying from New Orleans to Panama for vacation!

The moral in brief, it is always good to look at in the mirror - as Mr. Hammond suggests - and see ourselves true people eyes. The same will be true for Iranian nation with its multiple flaws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>Thank you for publishing my comments. I noticed there were few important mistakes and omissions in my last comment. Would be possible to replace it with this one (below)? </p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
<p>Bob </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Thank you very much Mr. Hammond for such this deep analytical and reflective article. </p>
<p>Mr Bryan has also a nice reflective timeline story about the changing the role of Iran and the US, which I thought could be relevant to your article: </p>
<p>(J. L. Bryan, “If Iran Were America (And We Were Iran): A Timeline”, at<br />
<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/bryan2.html)" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/bryan2.html)</a> </p>
<p>The only missing element in Mr. Bryan article is the story of the shooting down of the civil commercial Iran Air Airbus flight (Flight 655) in the Persian Gulf, killing all 290 passengers including 66 children on July 3 1998, by USS Vincennes. For more detailed facts &#8211; even through westerners eyes &#8211; please see the documentary called Mayday TV series (Crash Scene Investigation). </p>
<p>The outrageous reality is that (whether it was truly an error or not), Bush (father) said “I will never apologize for the United States of America—I don’t care what the facts are” in reference to the incident. The U.S. government issued notes of regret for the loss of human life but never admitted wrongdoing, accepted responsibility, nor apologized for the incident. </p>
<p>As if this is not disgusting enough, the men of the Vincennes were all awarded combat-action ribbons. Lustig, the air-warfare co-ordinator, won the navy’s Commendation Medal for “heroic achievement,” noting his “ability to maintain his poise and confidence under fire!!!!” that enabled him to “quickly and precisely complete the firing procedure”. </p>
<p>But the shocking fact – as you will see in the documentary – is that on the time of shouting, the USS Vincennes was 4 kilometres inside the Iranian boundary and not in the international waters! (Attack someone at home) </p>
<p>To accommodate this to Mr. Bryan timeline story, the tale would be that Iran sent its navy in the Gulf of Mexico – inside the US waters, and then shut down a 737 Boeing of the American Airline with 300 passengers, flying from New Orleans to Panama for vacation!</p>
<p>The moral in brief, it is always good to look at in the mirror &#8211; as Mr. Hammond suggests &#8211; and see ourselves true people eyes. The same will be true for Iranian nation with its multiple flaws.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/lessons-from-the-us-stance-towards-iran/#comment-2770</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, it&#039;s interesting that you should mention it, because Flight 655 and Bush&#039;s response to our having shot down a civilian airliner killing all 290 passengers aboard was actually on my mind as I wrote this article. I had originally intended to include a paragraph about that incident. I didn&#039;t in the end, but I&#039;m glad you mentioned it. I appreciate your comments, which really go to the heart of the matter and address the thesis directly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, it&#8217;s interesting that you should mention it, because Flight 655 and Bush&#8217;s response to our having shot down a civilian airliner killing all 290 passengers aboard was actually on my mind as I wrote this article. I had originally intended to include a paragraph about that incident. I didn&#8217;t in the end, but I&#8217;m glad you mentioned it. I appreciate your comments, which really go to the heart of the matter and address the thesis directly.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/lessons-from-the-us-stance-towards-iran/#comment-2751</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much Mr. Hammond for such this deep antipyretic and reflective article. 

Mr Bryan has also a nice reflective timeline story about the changing the role of Iran and the US, which I thought could be relevant to your article.

The only missing element in Mr. Bryan article is the story of the shooting down of the civil commercial Iran Air Airbus flight (Flight 655) in the Persian Gulf, killing all 290 passengers including 66 children on July 3 1998, by USS Vincennes. For more detailed facts - even through westerners eyes - please see the documentary called Mayday TV series (Crash Scene Investigation). 

The outrageous reality is that (whether it was truly an error or not), Bush (father) said &quot;I will never apologize for the United States of America—I don&#039;t care what the facts are&quot; in reference to the incident. The U.S. government issued notes of regret for the loss of human life but never admitted wrongdoing, accepted responsibility, nor apologized for the incident. 

As if this is not disgusting enough, the men of the Vincennes were all awarded combat-action ribbons. Lustig, the air-warfare co-ordinator, won the navy&#039;s Commendation Medal for &quot;heroic achievement,&quot; noting his &quot;ability to maintain his poise and confidence under fire!!!!&quot; that enabled him to &quot;quickly and precisely complete the firing procedure&quot;. 

 But the shocking fact – as you will see in the documentary – is that on the time of shouting, the USS Vincennes was 4 kilometres inside the Iranian boundary and not in the international waters! (Attack someone at home) 

 To accommodate this to Mr. Bryan timeline story, the tale would be that Iran sent its navy in the Gulf of Mexico – inside the US waters, and then shut down a 737 Boeing of the American Airline with 300 passengers, flying from New Orleans to Panama for vacation!

The moral in brief, it is always good to look at the mirror - as Mr. Hammond suggests - and see ourselves true people eyes. The same will be true for Iranian nation with its multiple flaws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much Mr. Hammond for such this deep antipyretic and reflective article. </p>
<p>Mr Bryan has also a nice reflective timeline story about the changing the role of Iran and the US, which I thought could be relevant to your article.</p>
<p>The only missing element in Mr. Bryan article is the story of the shooting down of the civil commercial Iran Air Airbus flight (Flight 655) in the Persian Gulf, killing all 290 passengers including 66 children on July 3 1998, by USS Vincennes. For more detailed facts &#8211; even through westerners eyes &#8211; please see the documentary called Mayday TV series (Crash Scene Investigation). </p>
<p>The outrageous reality is that (whether it was truly an error or not), Bush (father) said &#8220;I will never apologize for the United States of America—I don&#8217;t care what the facts are&#8221; in reference to the incident. The U.S. government issued notes of regret for the loss of human life but never admitted wrongdoing, accepted responsibility, nor apologized for the incident. </p>
<p>As if this is not disgusting enough, the men of the Vincennes were all awarded combat-action ribbons. Lustig, the air-warfare co-ordinator, won the navy&#8217;s Commendation Medal for &#8220;heroic achievement,&#8221; noting his &#8220;ability to maintain his poise and confidence under fire!!!!&#8221; that enabled him to &#8220;quickly and precisely complete the firing procedure&#8221;. </p>
<p> But the shocking fact – as you will see in the documentary – is that on the time of shouting, the USS Vincennes was 4 kilometres inside the Iranian boundary and not in the international waters! (Attack someone at home) </p>
<p> To accommodate this to Mr. Bryan timeline story, the tale would be that Iran sent its navy in the Gulf of Mexico – inside the US waters, and then shut down a 737 Boeing of the American Airline with 300 passengers, flying from New Orleans to Panama for vacation!</p>
<p>The moral in brief, it is always good to look at the mirror &#8211; as Mr. Hammond suggests &#8211; and see ourselves true people eyes. The same will be true for Iranian nation with its multiple flaws.</p>
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		<title>By: bill f</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/lessons-from-the-us-stance-towards-iran/#comment-2741</link>
		<dc:creator>bill f</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is ironic that prior to the invasion of Iraq and during the initial stages
of conflict, The Iranian govertment was strangely silent. No protests coming from the powers that be in Iran at all. Not once did they offer to 
assist Saddam in his struggle with the Imperialists. Oddly enough the same occured in Afghanistan. 
   But now that Irans two biggest threats are defeated, The US is the evil
empire!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is ironic that prior to the invasion of Iraq and during the initial stages<br />
of conflict, The Iranian govertment was strangely silent. No protests coming from the powers that be in Iran at all. Not once did they offer to<br />
assist Saddam in his struggle with the Imperialists. Oddly enough the same occured in Afghanistan.<br />
   But now that Irans two biggest threats are defeated, The US is the evil<br />
empire!</p>
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		<title>By: Binh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/lessons-from-the-us-stance-towards-iran/#comment-2669</link>
		<dc:creator>Binh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush has until Jan. 20, 2009 to attack. My bet is that he&#039;ll do it as he pulls troops out of Iraq, Nixon-style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush has until Jan. 20, 2009 to attack. My bet is that he&#8217;ll do it as he pulls troops out of Iraq, Nixon-style.</p>
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