Comments on: Give War a Chance http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:09:19 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mark Azman http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3465 Mark Azman Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:52:18 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3465 I fail to see the relavance of Mark Allen's accusation that Cindy Sheehan is a danger to this country. What are you basing this comment on, other than your flag waving retelling of her son's death. Your thoughtless retorick is the real danger to this country. Blind patriotism is worse than none at all. I wonder if you even understand or recognize the courage it takes to fight against the larger danger in our government; if you don't have a gun in your hand I suppose you can't really be fighting for something real then. I fail to see the relavance of Mark Allen’s accusation that Cindy Sheehan is a danger to this country. What are you basing this comment on, other than your flag waving retelling of her son’s death. Your thoughtless retorick is the real danger to this country. Blind patriotism is worse than none at all. I wonder if you even understand or recognize the courage it takes to fight against the larger danger in our government; if you don’t have a gun in your hand I suppose you can’t really be fighting for something real then.

]]> By: Hue Longer http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3191 Hue Longer Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:33:17 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3191 Thank God we have someone able to see through veils of lies and hate...who would have thought they trained marines to do that? Frenzy? Lol, you gotta be kidding, son...what kind of preparation do you do before you put your body in harms way? I imagine it would take a few more snakes or rosaries when it's illegal, hostile and unnecessarily taking place in someone else’s country Thank God we have someone able to see through veils of lies and hate…who would have thought they trained marines to do that?

Frenzy? Lol, you gotta be kidding, son…what kind of preparation do you do before you put your body in harms way? I imagine it would take a few more snakes or rosaries when it’s illegal, hostile and unnecessarily taking place in someone else’s country

]]> By: Mark Allen http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3184 Mark Allen Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:25:49 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3184 Cindy Sheehan is a danger to herself and this country. She uses her son's heroic death as a sop box for her demented ideals. She's so far gone that even the real Denocrats (Not the for left) want nothing to do with her. As a Marine I can see through her veil at her hate. Would she be protesting the car makers if her son had been killed in a car accident? It makes me wonder. Army Specialist Casey Sheehan - Someone You Should (Have) Known. Casey Sheehan grew up in a devout Catholic home. He served as an altar boy and then as a key member of his church's youth group for years. When he was old enough, Casey joined the Boy Scouts, becoming the very second Eagle Scout out of his troop. He enlisted in the Army when he was twenty years old. He decided to be a mechanic. He would undergo Combat Lifesaver training - a class on how to give IVs and treat trauma only second in intense learning to combat medic training. He was also certified to assist with giving communion to soldiers while in the field. Specialist Sheehan re-enlisted in the Army in 2004 knowing full well that he could be sent into a combat zone. Casey Sheehan was a Humvee mechanic with the 1st Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment. On April 3rd, 2004, forces loyal to Shi'ite cleric Muqtada al'Sadr stormed police stations and government offices in Sadr City (a city of over 2 million). They knew the Americans would come, and they wanted a fight. Muqtada Sadr was working them up into a religious frenzy. And he had his thugs murder anyone who he thought might stand in his way - even other Shi'ite clerics. His forces were known as the Mahdi Army. American forces quickly surrounded Muqtada al'Sadr's quarters. On April 4th, 2004, al'Sadr's Mahdi forces blocked roadways and bridges with burning tires, vehicles and trash. Visibility was less than 300 meters anywhere in the city. They began to attack American vehicles on patrol throughout Sadr City - some were protecting Shia worshipers (Holy Arbayeen) while others were escorting city government vehicles. A battle raged across Sadr City. Insurgents assaulted American troops while looters and mobs formed and stormed through the streets. Word spread quickly across the American FOBs that there was trouble. Soldiers of the 2nd Battalion, 5th Cavalry Regiment were ambushed with RPGs and pinned down and dying. While fighting off an attack himself, the Commander of the 2/5th, LTC Volesky, called for help. A Quick Reaction Force (QRF) was formed of volunteers - their mission was to go out and rescue the American troops. Casey Sheehan's Sergeant asked for volunteers. Sheehan had just returned from Mass. After Sheehan volunteered once, the Sergeant asked Sheehan again if he wanted to go on the mission. According to many reports and according to his own mother, Casey responded, "Where my Chief goes, I go." The QRF was launched. Not long after entering the Mahdi area, the QRF was channeled onto a dead-end street where the roofs were lined with snipers, RPGs, and even some militia throwing burning tires onto the vehicles. The Mahdi blocked the exit and let loose with everything they had. Sheehan's vehicle was hit with multiple RPGs and automatic-weapons fire. Specialist Casey Sheehan and Corporal Forest J. Jostes were killed. Army Spc. Casey Austin Sheehan rest in peace, sorry your mom's excessive. Cindy Sheehan is a danger to herself and this country. She uses her son’s heroic death as a sop box for her demented ideals. She’s so far gone that even the real Denocrats (Not the for left) want nothing to do with her. As a Marine I can see through her veil at her hate. Would she be protesting the car makers if her son had been killed in a car accident? It makes me wonder. Army Specialist Casey Sheehan – Someone You Should (Have) Known. Casey Sheehan grew up in a devout Catholic home. He served as an altar boy and then as a key member of his church’s youth group for years.
When he was old enough, Casey joined the Boy Scouts, becoming the very second Eagle Scout out of his troop.
He enlisted in the Army when he was twenty years old. He decided to be a mechanic. He would undergo Combat Lifesaver training – a class on how to give IVs and treat trauma only second in intense learning to combat medic training. He was also certified to assist with giving communion to soldiers while in the field.
Specialist Sheehan re-enlisted in the Army in 2004 knowing full well that he could be sent into a combat zone.
Casey Sheehan was a Humvee mechanic with the 1st Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment.
On April 3rd, 2004, forces loyal to Shi’ite cleric Muqtada al’Sadr stormed police stations and government offices in Sadr City (a city of over 2 million). They knew the Americans would come, and they wanted a fight. Muqtada Sadr was working them up into a religious frenzy. And he had his thugs murder anyone who he thought might stand in his way – even other Shi’ite clerics. His forces were known as the Mahdi Army.
American forces quickly surrounded Muqtada al’Sadr’s quarters.
On April 4th, 2004, al’Sadr’s Mahdi forces blocked roadways and bridges with burning tires, vehicles and trash. Visibility was less than 300 meters anywhere in the city. They began to attack American vehicles on patrol throughout Sadr City – some were protecting Shia worshipers (Holy Arbayeen) while others were escorting city government vehicles.
A battle raged across Sadr City. Insurgents assaulted American troops while looters and mobs formed and stormed through the streets. Word spread quickly across the American FOBs that there was trouble.
Soldiers of the 2nd Battalion, 5th Cavalry Regiment were ambushed with RPGs and pinned down and dying. While fighting off an attack himself, the Commander of the 2/5th, LTC Volesky, called for help. A Quick Reaction Force (QRF) was formed of volunteers – their mission was to go out and rescue the American troops.
Casey Sheehan’s Sergeant asked for volunteers. Sheehan had just returned from Mass. After Sheehan volunteered once, the Sergeant asked Sheehan again if he wanted to go on the mission. According to many reports and according to his own mother, Casey responded, “Where my Chief goes, I go.”
The QRF was launched. Not long after entering the Mahdi area, the QRF was channeled onto a dead-end street where the roofs were lined with snipers, RPGs, and even some militia throwing burning tires onto the vehicles. The Mahdi blocked the exit and let loose with everything they had.
Sheehan’s vehicle was hit with multiple RPGs and automatic-weapons fire.
Specialist Casey Sheehan and Corporal Forest J. Jostes were killed.
Army Spc. Casey Austin Sheehan rest in peace, sorry your mom’s excessive.

]]> By: Hue Longer http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3164 Hue Longer Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:41:28 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3164 Jerry, you seem to put a lot of faith into corporate fame....are you suggesting we stop using the internet and consume with you during newstainment on FOX or CNN? What kind of music is popular right now? I've been out of touch for awhile. Jerry, you seem to put a lot of faith into corporate fame….are you suggesting we stop using the internet and consume with you during newstainment on FOX or CNN? What kind of music is popular right now? I’ve been out of touch for awhile.

]]> By: Daoud Ali Chavez http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3163 Daoud Ali Chavez Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:59:09 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3163 Cindy Sheehan is clearly making a difference. Any time you draw comments like the one above, it is a good sign that your voice and actions are not just reaching the choir. No, they're being heard way out in the cheap seats! Change is hard for people and blind patriots often react violently when diabused of their long held belief in presidential infallibility. Keep fighting, Cindy! Truth is on our side! Cindy Sheehan is clearly making a difference. Any time you draw comments like the one above, it is a good sign that your voice and actions are not just reaching the choir. No, they’re being heard way out in the cheap seats! Change is hard for people and blind patriots often react violently when diabused of their long held belief in presidential infallibility.

Keep fighting, Cindy! Truth is on our side!

]]> By: Michael Rappaport http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3162 Michael Rappaport Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:46:02 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3162 Come on, Jerry. You're falling for the spin. All the attacks on Ms. Sheehan -- who at least has had the courage to put herself out there -- only serve to detract from discussion of the real issue. There is a war going on that serves no purpose other than making money for people who already have more than they can ever spend. We're nothing but the cannon fodder for these people; face it, Our Dubya's only connection with real people is when he scrapes us off his shoes. Stop falling for distractions and remember the real issue. Stop the war now. Come on, Jerry. You’re falling for the spin. All the attacks on Ms. Sheehan — who at least has had the courage to put herself out there — only serve to detract from discussion of the real issue.

There is a war going on that serves no purpose other than making money for people who already have more than they can ever spend. We’re nothing but the cannon fodder for these people; face it, Our Dubya’s only connection with real people is when he scrapes us off his shoes.

Stop falling for distractions and remember the real issue.

Stop the war now.

]]> By: Maurice Verbruggen http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3161 Maurice Verbruggen Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:38:47 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3161 dont give up cindy , keep up the hard good work,because 280.ooo.ooo others are sleeping and dont no whats going on in this country.i am a 15 year legal euro american and love this country and people,hard to watch how we and my dreams go down and nobody cares. Maurice dont give up cindy , keep up the hard good work,because 280.ooo.ooo others are sleeping and dont no whats going on in this country.i am a 15 year legal euro american and love this country and people,hard to watch how we and my dreams go down and nobody cares.
Maurice

]]> By: Jerry Nelson http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3141 Jerry Nelson Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:38:22 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/give-war-a-chance/#comment-3141 Get a life lady...your 15 mins of fame are over. I'm in the Washington D.C. area now and I can tell you the vets don't want you here! Get a life lady…your 15 mins of fame are over. I’m in the Washington D.C. area now and I can tell you the vets don’t want you here!

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