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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/what-if-nbc-cheered-on-a-military-coup-against-bush/#comment-1488</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Roy. You&#039;re the only one out of all of us who actually knows something about the topic.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Roy. You&#8217;re the only one out of all of us who actually knows something about the topic.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Dickinson</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/what-if-nbc-cheered-on-a-military-coup-against-bush/#comment-1292</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Dickinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In answer to Jeffs question, &quot;what did RCTV do during the coup ?&quot; On April 11, 2002, the day of the coup, when military and civilian opposition leaders held press conferences calling for Chávez&#039;s ouster, RCTV hosted top coup plotter Carlos Ortega, who rallied demonstrators to the march on the presidential palace. On the same day, after the anti-democratic overthrow appeared to have succeeded, another coup leader, Vice-Admiral Victor Ramírez Pérez, told a Venevisión reporter (4/11/02): &quot;We had a deadly weapon: the media. And now that I have the opportunity, let me congratulate you.&quot;
That commercial TV outlets including RCTV participated in the coup is not at question; even mainstream outlets have acknowledged as much. As reporter Juan Forero, Jackson Diehl&#039;s colleague at the Washington Post, explained (1/18/07), &quot;RCTV, like three other major private television stations, encouraged the protests,&quot; resulting in the coup, &quot;and, once Chávez was ousted, cheered his removal.&quot; The conservative British newspaper the Financial Times reported (5/21/07), &quot;[Venezuelan] officials argue with some justification that RCTV actively supported the 2002 coup attempt against Mr. Chávez.&quot;
When Chávez returned to power the commercial stations refused to cover the news, airing instead entertainment programs—in RCTV&#039;s case, the American film Pretty Woman. By refusing to cover such a newsworthy story, the stations abandoned the public interest and violated the public trust that is seen in Venezuela (and in the U.S.) as a requirement for operating on the public airwaves. 
When Patrick McElwee of the U.S.-based group Just Foreign Policy interviewed representatives of Human Rights Watch, Reporters Without Borders and the Committee to Protect Journalists—all groups that have condemned Venezuela&#039;s action in denying RCTV&#039;s license renewal—he found that none of the spokespersons thought broadcasters were automatically entitled to license renewals, though none of them thought RCTV&#039;s actions in support of the coup should have resulted in the station having its license renewal denied. This led McElwee to wonder, based on the rights groups&#039; arguments, &quot;Could it be that governments like Venezuela have the theoretical right to not to renew a broadcast license, but that no responsible government would ever do it?&quot;

McElwee acknowledged the critics&#039; point that some form of due process should have been involved in the decisions, but explained that laws preexisting Chávez&#039;s presidency placed licensing decision with the executive branch, with no real provisions for a hearings process: &quot;Unfortunately, this is what the law, first enacted in 1987, long before Chávez entered the political scene, allows. It charges the executive branch with decisions about license renewal, but does not seem to require any administrative hearing. The law should be changed, but at the current moment when broadcast licenses are up for renewal, it is the prevailing law and thus lays out the framework in which decisions are made.&quot;

Government actions weighing on journalism and broadcast licensing deserve strong scrutiny. However, on the central question of whether a government is bound to renew the license of a broadcaster when that broadcaster had been involved in a coup against the democratically elected government, the answer should be clear, as McElwee concludes:


The RCTV case is not about censorship of political opinion. It is about the government, through a flawed process, declining to renew a broadcast license to a company that would not get a license in other democracies, including the United States. In fact, it is frankly amazing that this company has been allowed to broadcast for 5 years after the coup, and that the Chávez government waited until its license expired to end its use of the public airwaves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In answer to Jeffs question, &#8220;what did RCTV do during the coup ?&#8221; On April 11, 2002, the day of the coup, when military and civilian opposition leaders held press conferences calling for Chávez&#8217;s ouster, RCTV hosted top coup plotter Carlos Ortega, who rallied demonstrators to the march on the presidential palace. On the same day, after the anti-democratic overthrow appeared to have succeeded, another coup leader, Vice-Admiral Victor Ramírez Pérez, told a Venevisión reporter (4/11/02): &#8220;We had a deadly weapon: the media. And now that I have the opportunity, let me congratulate you.&#8221;<br />
That commercial TV outlets including RCTV participated in the coup is not at question; even mainstream outlets have acknowledged as much. As reporter Juan Forero, Jackson Diehl&#8217;s colleague at the Washington Post, explained (1/18/07), &#8220;RCTV, like three other major private television stations, encouraged the protests,&#8221; resulting in the coup, &#8220;and, once Chávez was ousted, cheered his removal.&#8221; The conservative British newspaper the Financial Times reported (5/21/07), &#8220;[Venezuelan] officials argue with some justification that RCTV actively supported the 2002 coup attempt against Mr. Chávez.&#8221;<br />
When Chávez returned to power the commercial stations refused to cover the news, airing instead entertainment programs—in RCTV&#8217;s case, the American film Pretty Woman. By refusing to cover such a newsworthy story, the stations abandoned the public interest and violated the public trust that is seen in Venezuela (and in the U.S.) as a requirement for operating on the public airwaves.<br />
When Patrick McElwee of the U.S.-based group Just Foreign Policy interviewed representatives of Human Rights Watch, Reporters Without Borders and the Committee to Protect Journalists—all groups that have condemned Venezuela&#8217;s action in denying RCTV&#8217;s license renewal—he found that none of the spokespersons thought broadcasters were automatically entitled to license renewals, though none of them thought RCTV&#8217;s actions in support of the coup should have resulted in the station having its license renewal denied. This led McElwee to wonder, based on the rights groups&#8217; arguments, &#8220;Could it be that governments like Venezuela have the theoretical right to not to renew a broadcast license, but that no responsible government would ever do it?&#8221;</p>
<p>McElwee acknowledged the critics&#8217; point that some form of due process should have been involved in the decisions, but explained that laws preexisting Chávez&#8217;s presidency placed licensing decision with the executive branch, with no real provisions for a hearings process: &#8220;Unfortunately, this is what the law, first enacted in 1987, long before Chávez entered the political scene, allows. It charges the executive branch with decisions about license renewal, but does not seem to require any administrative hearing. The law should be changed, but at the current moment when broadcast licenses are up for renewal, it is the prevailing law and thus lays out the framework in which decisions are made.&#8221;</p>
<p>Government actions weighing on journalism and broadcast licensing deserve strong scrutiny. However, on the central question of whether a government is bound to renew the license of a broadcaster when that broadcaster had been involved in a coup against the democratically elected government, the answer should be clear, as McElwee concludes:</p>
<p>The RCTV case is not about censorship of political opinion. It is about the government, through a flawed process, declining to renew a broadcast license to a company that would not get a license in other democracies, including the United States. In fact, it is frankly amazing that this company has been allowed to broadcast for 5 years after the coup, and that the Chávez government waited until its license expired to end its use of the public airwaves.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/what-if-nbc-cheered-on-a-military-coup-against-bush/#comment-1269</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Joe, you started a flame, but I won&#039;t bite. Especially since I&#039;m not that &#039;type&#039;. I probably have more in common with people on this site than I have differences with them. I like freedom, here and everywhere else. I don&#039;t like to see it decay anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Joe, you started a flame, but I won&#8217;t bite. Especially since I&#8217;m not that &#8216;type&#8217;. I probably have more in common with people on this site than I have differences with them. I like freedom, here and everywhere else. I don&#8217;t like to see it decay anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/what-if-nbc-cheered-on-a-military-coup-against-bush/#comment-1268</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff said:
&quot;1. Very few people have cable.

2. It seems like everyone here is defending Chavez because they’re Chavez supporters, and nothing else (See CH’s comment: “Chavez the enemy? Hardly”)

I don’t think anyone here even knows what RCTV did during the coup. If they really incited people, that would be treason and someone would find some criminal charge, but no one has. Chavez being anti-US/pro-Communism doesn’t make him automatically right.&quot;

Your making assumptions based on your own apparent biases. The argument is larger than a given leader (in this case Chavez). The sources for what happened in Venezuela are many and corroborative regarding the role RCTV played in the attempted coup. I am not aware of the legal particulars in claiming treason in Venezuela.  I think it is more than fair to say that had this occurred in the US, treason charges would have been launched post haste.

What we do know is that the Venezuelan government renews network licenses and did not renew RCTV when it came up for renewal. A tiny price to pay for what we would call treasonous activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff said:<br />
&#8220;1. Very few people have cable.</p>
<p>2. It seems like everyone here is defending Chavez because they’re Chavez supporters, and nothing else (See CH’s comment: “Chavez the enemy? Hardly”)</p>
<p>I don’t think anyone here even knows what RCTV did during the coup. If they really incited people, that would be treason and someone would find some criminal charge, but no one has. Chavez being anti-US/pro-Communism doesn’t make him automatically right.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your making assumptions based on your own apparent biases. The argument is larger than a given leader (in this case Chavez). The sources for what happened in Venezuela are many and corroborative regarding the role RCTV played in the attempted coup. I am not aware of the legal particulars in claiming treason in Venezuela.  I think it is more than fair to say that had this occurred in the US, treason charges would have been launched post haste.</p>
<p>What we do know is that the Venezuelan government renews network licenses and did not renew RCTV when it came up for renewal. A tiny price to pay for what we would call treasonous activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Hue Longer</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/what-if-nbc-cheered-on-a-military-coup-against-bush/#comment-1260</link>
		<dc:creator>Hue Longer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your argument is as follows, Jeff...[If RCTV incited, it is treason, and they would be charged.  RCTV was not charged, therefore they didn&#039;t commit treason ]…  You have a classic invalid deductive argument here, Jeff.  Instead of going in this direction of asserting the inference (they would be charged) as unchallengeable fact (which validates your conclusion),  look at the evidence you seem to think no one but Chavez has and be open to a change of position.  This is a very good site to search concerning what RCTV aired before, during, and after the coup,  but branch out and understand that those talking about free speech or censorship WITHOUT discussing what was actually done, can not simply imply the wrong rhetorical questions based on fallacious reasoning to “win” an argument.  Put the test to ANYONE telling you anything (including this site).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your argument is as follows, Jeff&#8230;[If RCTV incited, it is treason, and they would be charged.  RCTV was not charged, therefore they didn't commit treason ]…  You have a classic invalid deductive argument here, Jeff.  Instead of going in this direction of asserting the inference (they would be charged) as unchallengeable fact (which validates your conclusion),  look at the evidence you seem to think no one but Chavez has and be open to a change of position.  This is a very good site to search concerning what RCTV aired before, during, and after the coup,  but branch out and understand that those talking about free speech or censorship WITHOUT discussing what was actually done, can not simply imply the wrong rhetorical questions based on fallacious reasoning to “win” an argument.  Put the test to ANYONE telling you anything (including this site).</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/what-if-nbc-cheered-on-a-military-coup-against-bush/#comment-1258</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff....I would just like to say that you your self don&#039;t seem to be very objective in your analysis....all you seem to be able to do is attack others for their lack of objectivity...and you offer no supporting evidence..only rhetoric.  We have come to expect this from your type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff&#8230;.I would just like to say that you your self don&#8217;t seem to be very objective in your analysis&#8230;.all you seem to be able to do is attack others for their lack of objectivity&#8230;and you offer no supporting evidence..only rhetoric.  We have come to expect this from your type.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/what-if-nbc-cheered-on-a-military-coup-against-bush/#comment-1256</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Very few people have cable.

2. It seems like everyone here is defending Chavez because they&#039;re Chavez supporters, and nothing else (See CH&#039;s comment: &quot;Chavez the enemy? Hardly&quot;)

I don&#039;t think anyone here even knows what RCTV did during the coup. If they really incited people, that would be treason and someone would find some criminal charge, but no one has. Chavez being anti-US/pro-Communism  doesn&#039;t make him automatically right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Very few people have cable.</p>
<p>2. It seems like everyone here is defending Chavez because they&#8217;re Chavez supporters, and nothing else (See CH&#8217;s comment: &#8220;Chavez the enemy? Hardly&#8221;)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone here even knows what RCTV did during the coup. If they really incited people, that would be treason and someone would find some criminal charge, but no one has. Chavez being anti-US/pro-Communism  doesn&#8217;t make him automatically right.</p>
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		<title>By: jose de PR</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/what-if-nbc-cheered-on-a-military-coup-against-bush/#comment-1254</link>
		<dc:creator>jose de PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They do not comprehend that free-speech is a universal value&quot;- neutral indian.

free speech doesnt give you the right to do whatever and say whatever you want. Free speech is not like the &quot;free out of jail-card&quot; from that game or like having a &quot;license to kill&quot; like that superagent spy. Free speech doesnt work like that; it must follow the rules and laws of a society like the rest of us. 

maybe you are confusing the term; &quot;free speech&quot;. i know it uses the word &quot;free&quot; but there are some conditions like we are hold, as citzens, to some conditions.

for example, you are &quot;free&quot; to say the word &quot;bomb&quot; in an airport; you can say it...just a wait a few minutes to see what happens to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They do not comprehend that free-speech is a universal value&#8221;- neutral indian.</p>
<p>free speech doesnt give you the right to do whatever and say whatever you want. Free speech is not like the &#8220;free out of jail-card&#8221; from that game or like having a &#8220;license to kill&#8221; like that superagent spy. Free speech doesnt work like that; it must follow the rules and laws of a society like the rest of us. </p>
<p>maybe you are confusing the term; &#8220;free speech&#8221;. i know it uses the word &#8220;free&#8221; but there are some conditions like we are hold, as citzens, to some conditions.</p>
<p>for example, you are &#8220;free&#8221; to say the word &#8220;bomb&#8221; in an airport; you can say it&#8230;just a wait a few minutes to see what happens to you.</p>
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		<title>By: CH</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/what-if-nbc-cheered-on-a-military-coup-against-bush/#comment-1230</link>
		<dc:creator>CH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 17:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chavez the enemy?  Hardly.  And he didn&#039;t close down RCTV, but banished it to cable and satellite, as Blum said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chavez the enemy?  Hardly.  And he didn&#8217;t close down RCTV, but banished it to cable and satellite, as Blum said.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Cheer it on&#039; and &#039;incite it&#039; are very different things. Are you clear what RCTV actually did? Inciting a government coup seems to be treason, no? So there wasn&#039;t enough evidence to bring criminal charges of any kind against anyone (and they had five years to look for it) but we&#039;ll take President Chavez at his word. What a luxury Chavez enjoys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Cheer it on&#8217; and &#8216;incite it&#8217; are very different things. Are you clear what RCTV actually did? Inciting a government coup seems to be treason, no? So there wasn&#8217;t enough evidence to bring criminal charges of any kind against anyone (and they had five years to look for it) but we&#8217;ll take President Chavez at his word. What a luxury Chavez enjoys!</p>
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		<title>By: neutral indian</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/what-if-nbc-cheered-on-a-military-coup-against-bush/#comment-1228</link>
		<dc:creator>neutral indian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am from India and I have noticed that Americans are not capable of logical analysis. That is why the American left does not defend free-speech, but defends certain people.

They do not comprehend that free-speech is a universal value. OTOH, they are intensely loyal to Communists. In that sense, they are low IQ inferior morons and useful idiots.  Of course, the American right-wing is incapable of ideological positions either. Notice how they supported Osama bin Laden , Saddam Hussein and other dictators and justified it.

I will admit one point though -- the right-wing hates me for my ideas, the left-wing hates me for who I am. In that sense, the American leftists are more racist than their right-wing counterparts.

To answer the question raised here -- what if NBC cheered a coup against Bush? In India, we usually quote Voltaire when we say that we may disagree with you, but will defend you on your right to say something.

I have found that American &quot;liberals&quot; are too dumb to understand this concept. I even tried this test on the so-called &quot;liberals&quot; -- I claimed that Hugo Chavez was accused of pedophilia. The immediate reaction of the &quot;liberal&quot; (so-called) was that the child is at fault. The second reaction was that pedophilia is not really bad. American left is a bunch of low IQ morons who base their position on who says something rather than the merits of the issue.

As for the &quot;coup,&quot; if you really believe that the general strike was part of the coup, you are a moron. There was a general strike and the army leaders tried to exploit the situation. They were arrested for it. Also, if you call a general strike as a coup, then the protests in Seattle a few years back would be called a coup.  And the anti-war protesters were carrying pro-Saddam and pro-Osama placards. Their right to express their views was not blocked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am from India and I have noticed that Americans are not capable of logical analysis. That is why the American left does not defend free-speech, but defends certain people.</p>
<p>They do not comprehend that free-speech is a universal value. OTOH, they are intensely loyal to Communists. In that sense, they are low IQ inferior morons and useful idiots.  Of course, the American right-wing is incapable of ideological positions either. Notice how they supported Osama bin Laden , Saddam Hussein and other dictators and justified it.</p>
<p>I will admit one point though &#8212; the right-wing hates me for my ideas, the left-wing hates me for who I am. In that sense, the American leftists are more racist than their right-wing counterparts.</p>
<p>To answer the question raised here &#8212; what if NBC cheered a coup against Bush? In India, we usually quote Voltaire when we say that we may disagree with you, but will defend you on your right to say something.</p>
<p>I have found that American &#8220;liberals&#8221; are too dumb to understand this concept. I even tried this test on the so-called &#8220;liberals&#8221; &#8212; I claimed that Hugo Chavez was accused of pedophilia. The immediate reaction of the &#8220;liberal&#8221; (so-called) was that the child is at fault. The second reaction was that pedophilia is not really bad. American left is a bunch of low IQ morons who base their position on who says something rather than the merits of the issue.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;coup,&#8221; if you really believe that the general strike was part of the coup, you are a moron. There was a general strike and the army leaders tried to exploit the situation. They were arrested for it. Also, if you call a general strike as a coup, then the protests in Seattle a few years back would be called a coup.  And the anti-war protesters were carrying pro-Saddam and pro-Osama placards. Their right to express their views was not blocked.</p>
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		<title>By: Hue Longer</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/what-if-nbc-cheered-on-a-military-coup-against-bush/#comment-1225</link>
		<dc:creator>Hue Longer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before your fallacy is named Jeff, I&#039;ll give you the benefit of the doubt...Are you saying if treason charges were not brought after the coup, then they didn&#039;t cheer or incite it before?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before your fallacy is named Jeff, I&#8217;ll give you the benefit of the doubt&#8230;Are you saying if treason charges were not brought after the coup, then they didn&#8217;t cheer or incite it before?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 13:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They didn&#039;t cheer it on or incite it. If they had Chavez wouldn&#039;t have waited five years to close it. And why close it? Why not just bring treason charges against those responsible? So far, no one has been charged. This is clearly his desire to control the media. He&#039;s replaced it with a socialist channel, clearly aimed at expressing his viewpoint.

You, at this site, are creating a reality that suits you, because Chavez is the enemy or your enemy. Give people the truth. Don&#039;t allude to things that RCTV may have done, spell it out. The problem is you can&#039;t because it wouldn&#039;t be worth writing about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They didn&#8217;t cheer it on or incite it. If they had Chavez wouldn&#8217;t have waited five years to close it. And why close it? Why not just bring treason charges against those responsible? So far, no one has been charged. This is clearly his desire to control the media. He&#8217;s replaced it with a socialist channel, clearly aimed at expressing his viewpoint.</p>
<p>You, at this site, are creating a reality that suits you, because Chavez is the enemy or your enemy. Give people the truth. Don&#8217;t allude to things that RCTV may have done, spell it out. The problem is you can&#8217;t because it wouldn&#8217;t be worth writing about.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Petersen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/what-if-nbc-cheered-on-a-military-coup-against-bush/#comment-1223</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 12:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to the hypothetical question posed by Dershowitz: &quot;What if a bomb has been set to go off, which will kill many people, and only your prisoner knows where it&#039;s located. Is it okay to torture him to elicit the information?&quot;

How about the following asked of him: What if a bomb has been set to go off, which will kill many people, and you strongly suspect your prisoner knows where it&#039;s located. Is it okay to torture him to elicit the information?

Or better yet: What if a professor supports theft of land and apartheid that will kill many Palestinians, and that his support helps to perpetuate the killing. Is it okay to torture him to try and stop the killing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the hypothetical question posed by Dershowitz: &#8220;What if a bomb has been set to go off, which will kill many people, and only your prisoner knows where it&#8217;s located. Is it okay to torture him to elicit the information?&#8221;</p>
<p>How about the following asked of him: What if a bomb has been set to go off, which will kill many people, and you strongly suspect your prisoner knows where it&#8217;s located. Is it okay to torture him to elicit the information?</p>
<p>Or better yet: What if a professor supports theft of land and apartheid that will kill many Palestinians, and that his support helps to perpetuate the killing. Is it okay to torture him to try and stop the killing?</p>
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