Comments on: The Quagmire That Was Supposed To Be http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-quagmire-that-was-supposed-to-be/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:35:22 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: CH http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-quagmire-that-was-supposed-to-be/#comment-1960 CH Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:17:06 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-quagmire-that-was-supposed-to-be/#comment-1960 Not a bad article. The author was succinct and to the point. Don't let the attacks discourage you, Mr. Aleman! You probably know more about this topic than them. Not a bad article. The author was succinct and to the point. Don’t let the attacks discourage you, Mr. Aleman! You probably know more about this topic than them.

]]> By: RLaing http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-quagmire-that-was-supposed-to-be/#comment-1959 RLaing Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:08:03 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-quagmire-that-was-supposed-to-be/#comment-1959 According to a recent article in the NYT, present troop levels can be sustained until about next April, at which point the U.S. military will be forced to start drawing down for the lack of soldiers. If that happens, all the political 'will' in the world won't keep the U.S. in Iraq, and it will matter very little which wing of the corporate party happens to hold power in Washingon. According to a recent article in the NYT, present troop levels can be sustained until about next April, at which point the U.S. military will be forced to start drawing down for the lack of soldiers. If that happens, all the political ‘will’ in the world won’t keep the U.S. in Iraq, and it will matter very little which wing of the corporate party happens to hold power in Washingon.

]]> By: smchris http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-quagmire-that-was-supposed-to-be/#comment-1948 smchris Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:32:33 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-quagmire-that-was-supposed-to-be/#comment-1948 Got some Freeper action here, eh? Yes, there certainly is an apparent ignorance of present and past history. Like the history of GREAT BRITAIN ALREADY TRYING TO OCCUPY IRAQ IN THE LAST CENTURY AND HOW WELL THAT WENT DOWN. Got some Freeper action here, eh?

Yes, there certainly is an apparent ignorance of present and past history. Like the history of GREAT BRITAIN ALREADY TRYING TO OCCUPY IRAQ IN THE LAST CENTURY AND HOW WELL THAT WENT DOWN.

]]> By: bclevlen http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-quagmire-that-was-supposed-to-be/#comment-1923 bclevlen Tue, 26 Jun 2007 03:16:03 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-quagmire-that-was-supposed-to-be/#comment-1923 I agree... this article sounds like it was written by a "book smart" person, with little common sense. The government works fine. As for Cindy Sheehan -- she was nothing more than a woman who wanted her five minutes of fame. If you think it's anything more -- you're crazy. Her son has to be embarrassed looking down from heaven. I know I would sure be. Lastly, as for Iraq in general... the writer obviously is ignorant of how things have gone down in history. It has taken our own Democracy well over 100 years to get to where it is today and yet we STILL have problems. Yet, in less than 10 years -- you expect Iraq to be perfect? Get a clue, man! They say they want the US to leave, which I'm sure they do at some level -- but they also know that they're screwed if the US leaves too soon. Proof of that is recent developments where Iraqi towns are now helping the US to root out the bad guys. They're finally starting to "get it". But, what do you expect from a country that's only known war and fighting for centuries? Sure, they put on a tough face when the cameras are rolling and spew the anti US crap... but they all know deep down that they need the US to survive. I agree… this article sounds like it was written by a “book smart” person, with little common sense. The government works fine. As for Cindy Sheehan — she was nothing more than a woman who wanted her five minutes of fame. If you think it’s anything more — you’re crazy. Her son has to be embarrassed looking down from heaven. I know I would sure be.

Lastly, as for Iraq in general… the writer obviously is ignorant of how things have gone down in history. It has taken our own Democracy well over 100 years to get to where it is today and yet we STILL have problems. Yet, in less than 10 years — you expect Iraq to be perfect? Get a clue, man! They say they want the US to leave, which I’m sure they do at some level — but they also know that they’re screwed if the US leaves too soon. Proof of that is recent developments where Iraqi towns are now helping the US to root out the bad guys. They’re finally starting to “get it”. But, what do you expect from a country that’s only known war and fighting for centuries? Sure, they put on a tough face when the cameras are rolling and spew the anti US crap… but they all know deep down that they need the US to survive.

]]> By: Dr. Derrick Grimmer http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-quagmire-that-was-supposed-to-be/#comment-1905 Dr. Derrick Grimmer Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:42:56 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-quagmire-that-was-supposed-to-be/#comment-1905 The author fails to mention the all important Israeli Lobby card. The importance of the Lobby's influence, through a combination of forms of coercion, e.g., bribery and blackmail, should not be underestimated regarding the American body politic. Any failure of an author/analyst to even mention this established influence on American politics leaves me suspect of that individual's acumen and or honesty regarding the Mideast situation. The author fails to mention the all important Israeli Lobby card.

The importance of the Lobby’s influence, through a combination of forms of coercion, e.g., bribery and blackmail, should not be underestimated regarding the American body politic.

Any failure of an author/analyst to even mention this established influence on American politics leaves me suspect of that individual’s acumen and or honesty regarding the Mideast situation.

]]> By: Carl Richardson http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-quagmire-that-was-supposed-to-be/#comment-1897 Carl Richardson Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:38:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-quagmire-that-was-supposed-to-be/#comment-1897 You write well but you show a decided lack of knowledge about: a. History in general b. Military history c. Economics d. Our republican form of government. (you won't find the word "democracy" in either the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution.) Thus, when you rage on about what the Democrats were allegedly elected to do, you overlook that not enough of them were elected to do what you wish. This and the fact that President Bush was reelected for a full four years, means that our government is working as it should and not in accordance with popularity polls. Your remedy is to get more Democrats elected, even a President. I would think that to do that, you need to study some more. Carl You write well but you show a decided lack of knowledge about:
a. History in general
b. Military history
c. Economics
d. Our republican form of government. (you won’t find the word “democracy” in either the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution.)
Thus, when you rage on about what the Democrats were allegedly elected to do, you overlook that not enough of them were elected to do what you wish. This and the fact that President Bush was reelected for a full four years, means that our government is working as it should and not in accordance with popularity polls.
Your remedy is to get more Democrats elected, even a President. I would think that to do that, you need to study some more.
Carl

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