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		<title>By: John Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-meteoric-rise-of-a-race-neutered-presidential-candidate/#comment-1267</link>
		<dc:creator>John Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, both Obama and Clinton (and most, if not all, of the others) are great frauds.  Obama and Clinton pursued senatorial careers ostensibly to &quot;serve the people&quot; of their states.  Yet, as soon as they got in (and not bothering to do anything significant while in Senate), they want to be President.  So, the Senate was not about serving the people, but about being the springboard for their ambitions.  It&#039;s not about the people, or the service, it&#039;s all about them and their ambition.  Why don&#039;t they quit the senate (and all the other candidates, too, should quit their &quot;public service&quot; (self-enrichment)  jobs), while they are pursuing this?  You can&#039;t justly discharge your DUTIES as a senator (for which you are paid), while you are pursuing the presidency full time.  Don&#039;t tell me others have done it -- that doesn&#039;t make it right, and it makes it a fraud.  Can YOU keep your job, and get paid for it, while you devote your time and energies full time to something else?  Why are they better than you or me?

I am not picking on Obama.  The use of Air Force One for political purposes, the Karl Rove, a political operative, having an office in the white house and being paid (handsomely!) by taxpayers&#039; money, all these trips (hunting trips, no less!!!!) on govt jets, etc., etc., Republican or Democrat, doesn&#039;t matter, the govt is rotten to the core, and the American people don&#039;t seem to mind.  They want to elect these frauds, who&#039;ll just continue the party.  And the less they mind, the more the cockroaches take over, and the American people are satisfied with less and less; and they get less and less as a result, it&#039;s a vicious circle.  Something that would be unthinkable a generation ago is normal business now.

The readers above are right -- MLK worked in the trenches, and it showed in what he said, Obama did not, he&#039;s just a flash in the pan.  But unfortunately, he (or others like him), may just get elected president, unimaginable as it may be.  Because, we the people have no standards anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, both Obama and Clinton (and most, if not all, of the others) are great frauds.  Obama and Clinton pursued senatorial careers ostensibly to &#8220;serve the people&#8221; of their states.  Yet, as soon as they got in (and not bothering to do anything significant while in Senate), they want to be President.  So, the Senate was not about serving the people, but about being the springboard for their ambitions.  It&#8217;s not about the people, or the service, it&#8217;s all about them and their ambition.  Why don&#8217;t they quit the senate (and all the other candidates, too, should quit their &#8220;public service&#8221; (self-enrichment)  jobs), while they are pursuing this?  You can&#8217;t justly discharge your DUTIES as a senator (for which you are paid), while you are pursuing the presidency full time.  Don&#8217;t tell me others have done it &#8212; that doesn&#8217;t make it right, and it makes it a fraud.  Can YOU keep your job, and get paid for it, while you devote your time and energies full time to something else?  Why are they better than you or me?</p>
<p>I am not picking on Obama.  The use of Air Force One for political purposes, the Karl Rove, a political operative, having an office in the white house and being paid (handsomely!) by taxpayers&#8217; money, all these trips (hunting trips, no less!!!!) on govt jets, etc., etc., Republican or Democrat, doesn&#8217;t matter, the govt is rotten to the core, and the American people don&#8217;t seem to mind.  They want to elect these frauds, who&#8217;ll just continue the party.  And the less they mind, the more the cockroaches take over, and the American people are satisfied with less and less; and they get less and less as a result, it&#8217;s a vicious circle.  Something that would be unthinkable a generation ago is normal business now.</p>
<p>The readers above are right &#8212; MLK worked in the trenches, and it showed in what he said, Obama did not, he&#8217;s just a flash in the pan.  But unfortunately, he (or others like him), may just get elected president, unimaginable as it may be.  Because, we the people have no standards anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: G. A. Richards</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-meteoric-rise-of-a-race-neutered-presidential-candidate/#comment-1215</link>
		<dc:creator>G. A. Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 02:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s obvious this idiot views Sharpton as the messiah. Otherwise, he wouldn&#039;t ask why Obama would have to stare down a Bull Connor before earning his nigga cred. Sharpton is a joke. Too bad your kind don&#039;t get it. I believe I&#039;m one of those non-racial self-loathing types this idiot is talking about. It&#039;s just strange that he never asked why we are the way we are. Here&#039;s why: race has nothing to do with our accomplishments. Hard work did. Studying in school did. Fidelity to family did. I reject the gangsta lifestyle because it is quick sand. I reject everything that has to do with the gangsta lifestyle. If that makes me seen distant and uncaring, so be it. I can&#039;t care -- not when I spend my time being a father to my children, worrying about their education, peer influence, the music they listen to.

But maybe in my own small way, I&#039;m doing a service to my race. Afterall, I&#039;m trying my best to raise kids that are not a part of the problem. I live my life in a way that I hope my kids will see me as a good example. I believe that if we all did that, that would be half the  battle. 

You should be attacking the rappers who sell wholesale, a lifestyle that&#039;s so obviously distructive. You should blame  the pro athletes in general (and basketball and football players) in particular, so not being better role models. 

If I had to choose, I would rather my son be like Obama than like Terrell Owens. So yes, I&#039;m far removed from a certain aspect of black culture because it&#039;s ultimately destructive. If I emerse myself in that aspect, I don&#039;t doubt that it would destroy me, just like it did thousands of black men in prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s obvious this idiot views Sharpton as the messiah. Otherwise, he wouldn&#8217;t ask why Obama would have to stare down a Bull Connor before earning his nigga cred. Sharpton is a joke. Too bad your kind don&#8217;t get it. I believe I&#8217;m one of those non-racial self-loathing types this idiot is talking about. It&#8217;s just strange that he never asked why we are the way we are. Here&#8217;s why: race has nothing to do with our accomplishments. Hard work did. Studying in school did. Fidelity to family did. I reject the gangsta lifestyle because it is quick sand. I reject everything that has to do with the gangsta lifestyle. If that makes me seen distant and uncaring, so be it. I can&#8217;t care &#8212; not when I spend my time being a father to my children, worrying about their education, peer influence, the music they listen to.</p>
<p>But maybe in my own small way, I&#8217;m doing a service to my race. Afterall, I&#8217;m trying my best to raise kids that are not a part of the problem. I live my life in a way that I hope my kids will see me as a good example. I believe that if we all did that, that would be half the  battle. </p>
<p>You should be attacking the rappers who sell wholesale, a lifestyle that&#8217;s so obviously distructive. You should blame  the pro athletes in general (and basketball and football players) in particular, so not being better role models. </p>
<p>If I had to choose, I would rather my son be like Obama than like Terrell Owens. So yes, I&#8217;m far removed from a certain aspect of black culture because it&#8217;s ultimately destructive. If I emerse myself in that aspect, I don&#8217;t doubt that it would destroy me, just like it did thousands of black men in prison.</p>
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		<title>By: Hue Longer</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-meteoric-rise-of-a-race-neutered-presidential-candidate/#comment-1196</link>
		<dc:creator>Hue Longer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great article...I talk on blogs relating nothing to politics and angry white men love beating up on Sharpton and Jackson for their phoniness when really it&#039;s the message being to delivered to whites that they hate...here we have a phony who&#039;s status quo, we&#039;re all purple (credit to Quickly) message is loved by non- progressive liberal whites.  Does this sound familiar? ... &quot;Why do African Americans always have to drop the race card?  If they would  just realize that we are all working towards the same things, they wouldn&#039;t be so angry at good white democrats like Bill Maher, Clinton and myself...Look at Obama, he gets it&quot;!  I&#039;ve heard that from white Dems using Colin (he&#039;s so articulate) Powell, too...hell, they were ready to vote for him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great article&#8230;I talk on blogs relating nothing to politics and angry white men love beating up on Sharpton and Jackson for their phoniness when really it&#8217;s the message being to delivered to whites that they hate&#8230;here we have a phony who&#8217;s status quo, we&#8217;re all purple (credit to Quickly) message is loved by non- progressive liberal whites.  Does this sound familiar? &#8230; &#8220;Why do African Americans always have to drop the race card?  If they would  just realize that we are all working towards the same things, they wouldn&#8217;t be so angry at good white democrats like Bill Maher, Clinton and myself&#8230;Look at Obama, he gets it&#8221;!  I&#8217;ve heard that from white Dems using Colin (he&#8217;s so articulate) Powell, too&#8230;hell, they were ready to vote for him!</p>
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		<title>By: CODude</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-meteoric-rise-of-a-race-neutered-presidential-candidate/#comment-1194</link>
		<dc:creator>CODude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 01:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I had to read this twice to even notice the mention of his family.  But then again, I&#039;m not an Obama supporter.  To me he&#039;s just another shallow politician spouting focus group results.  I definitely ask the question this author asks, shouldn&#039;t someone have to DO SOMETHING before they say they should be President?

I&#039;ve been reading the speech of Obama&#039;s that&#039;s been going around the internet.  And if anything, what it tells me is that is image shapers and speechwriters seem to have mastered what both Bush and Kerry mastered.  That is speaking a lot of words that sound good on the surface to the intended audience, but which don&#039;t really say anything.  Read that speech that&#039;s on many websites, then ask yourself what he really proposes to DO. It sounds good till you realize there&#039;s little substance there except maybe expanding the EITC.  Just like Kerry.  Kerry could sound good, but afterwards I&#039;d ask what did he really just propose and it was always little or nothing.

But if you read that speech, you&#039;ll quickly no Obama is no Martin Luther King with his telling denouncement of not only the Vietnam War at the Riverside Church in NYC, but his clearly spelling out of exactly what it is in American society that leads us continually to wars in Vietnam and now Iraq.  Obama mouths nice words against the war in Iraq.  Undoubtably his state senate district in 2002 was so antiwar that it was a political no-brainer to oppose it then.  And today he mouths criticism of the war in Iraq while saying absolutely nothing about what it says about the America that so gladly went to war.  And he seems to vigorously support a war against Iran, apparently showing that he&#039;s learned absolutely nothing from the mistakes we made in going to war in Iraq.

The Democratic Party seems to be pulling a twin pair of cons on the American electorate in desperation of otherwise being revealed they stand for nothing.  They have the candidate that all the women are supposed to vote for just because a woman should be elected.  And they have the candidate that everyone who isn&#039;t white is supposed to vote for if they aren&#039;t white.  But if anyone is so stupid as to vote for a candidate on either basis, then they deserve the same disasterous result that they got when they voted for the candidate they&#039;d most like to go drink a beer with.

Hey Obama, how about actually doing something as a Senator?  Take a stand and wage a fight on something that will improve this country, or maybe change the disastrous direction we are going in.  Do anything, but do something.  Right now he&#039;s just  a bland media creation running around saying what his pollsters tell him to say.  Which to me means he shouldn&#039;t be let anywhere near the White House.

Look deeper than the messages his pollsters give him to recite.  Look for soul.  Look for character.  You should be able to see that.  A US Senator is a powerful person.   You should be able to see amazingly good things being done by him.  But to me he does nothing but mouth lots of vague generalities.

Listen to Obama talk about today&#039;s wars, and then listen to Martin Luther King&#039;s speech at Riverside Church.  I believe it would be obvious who is the person with soul who really gets it and understands what&#039;s going on, and who is the shallow, media-created phony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I had to read this twice to even notice the mention of his family.  But then again, I&#8217;m not an Obama supporter.  To me he&#8217;s just another shallow politician spouting focus group results.  I definitely ask the question this author asks, shouldn&#8217;t someone have to DO SOMETHING before they say they should be President?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading the speech of Obama&#8217;s that&#8217;s been going around the internet.  And if anything, what it tells me is that is image shapers and speechwriters seem to have mastered what both Bush and Kerry mastered.  That is speaking a lot of words that sound good on the surface to the intended audience, but which don&#8217;t really say anything.  Read that speech that&#8217;s on many websites, then ask yourself what he really proposes to DO. It sounds good till you realize there&#8217;s little substance there except maybe expanding the EITC.  Just like Kerry.  Kerry could sound good, but afterwards I&#8217;d ask what did he really just propose and it was always little or nothing.</p>
<p>But if you read that speech, you&#8217;ll quickly no Obama is no Martin Luther King with his telling denouncement of not only the Vietnam War at the Riverside Church in NYC, but his clearly spelling out of exactly what it is in American society that leads us continually to wars in Vietnam and now Iraq.  Obama mouths nice words against the war in Iraq.  Undoubtably his state senate district in 2002 was so antiwar that it was a political no-brainer to oppose it then.  And today he mouths criticism of the war in Iraq while saying absolutely nothing about what it says about the America that so gladly went to war.  And he seems to vigorously support a war against Iran, apparently showing that he&#8217;s learned absolutely nothing from the mistakes we made in going to war in Iraq.</p>
<p>The Democratic Party seems to be pulling a twin pair of cons on the American electorate in desperation of otherwise being revealed they stand for nothing.  They have the candidate that all the women are supposed to vote for just because a woman should be elected.  And they have the candidate that everyone who isn&#8217;t white is supposed to vote for if they aren&#8217;t white.  But if anyone is so stupid as to vote for a candidate on either basis, then they deserve the same disasterous result that they got when they voted for the candidate they&#8217;d most like to go drink a beer with.</p>
<p>Hey Obama, how about actually doing something as a Senator?  Take a stand and wage a fight on something that will improve this country, or maybe change the disastrous direction we are going in.  Do anything, but do something.  Right now he&#8217;s just  a bland media creation running around saying what his pollsters tell him to say.  Which to me means he shouldn&#8217;t be let anywhere near the White House.</p>
<p>Look deeper than the messages his pollsters give him to recite.  Look for soul.  Look for character.  You should be able to see that.  A US Senator is a powerful person.   You should be able to see amazingly good things being done by him.  But to me he does nothing but mouth lots of vague generalities.</p>
<p>Listen to Obama talk about today&#8217;s wars, and then listen to Martin Luther King&#8217;s speech at Riverside Church.  I believe it would be obvious who is the person with soul who really gets it and understands what&#8217;s going on, and who is the shallow, media-created phony.</p>
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		<title>By: shataya</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-meteoric-rise-of-a-race-neutered-presidential-candidate/#comment-1179</link>
		<dc:creator>shataya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this should of never happend</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-meteoric-rise-of-a-race-neutered-presidential-candidate/#comment-1176</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This really is an ugly, pathetic, and hateful little diatribe.  It is vicious slander - this website really can do better than this.  You lost me as soon as you started attacking Obama for his multi-racial heritage.  There&#039;s so much hate here, and almost all of it is unjustified based on Obama&#039;s record to date. It&#039;s pretty sad when you think about it, that someone could feel so much antipathy toward a public figure they&#039;ve never met (besides BushCo).

So tell me, &quot;Nathaniel X Turner II&quot;, what have you done for black people lately, besides concocting little pieces of internet hate speech like this one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really is an ugly, pathetic, and hateful little diatribe.  It is vicious slander &#8211; this website really can do better than this.  You lost me as soon as you started attacking Obama for his multi-racial heritage.  There&#8217;s so much hate here, and almost all of it is unjustified based on Obama&#8217;s record to date. It&#8217;s pretty sad when you think about it, that someone could feel so much antipathy toward a public figure they&#8217;ve never met (besides BushCo).</p>
<p>So tell me, &#8220;Nathaniel X Turner II&#8221;, what have you done for black people lately, besides concocting little pieces of internet hate speech like this one?</p>
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