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		<title>By: Alexander Billet</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-anti-bush-band-wagon/#comment-28806</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Billet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

Why does it &quot;tear you up inside&quot; to hear artists speak out against Bush?  Aren&#039;t artists also people who feel the need to voice their opinion when things are going wrong?  Don&#039;t you think that listeners can decide for themselves?  Is it that artists are manipulating the minds of young people, or is it that they are merely validating what most people already feel (that the war, the bailout for the rich while the poor scramble to keep a roof over their heads, the low wages and lack of health care are just fucked up)?

Kids aren&#039;t stupid.  I know I wasn&#039;t.  I&#039;m sure you aren&#039;t.  And people aren&#039;t sheep.  Is a laid-off worker unable to talk about the unfairness of this economy simply because they haven&#039;t had the time to go through the Fiancial Times every day?  No.

In this climate, there are a lot of people with a lot of gut anger against the injustice in this system because they are feeling it personally.  Political art can help validate that anger, take it from being a personal thing into more of a collective experience.  That&#039;s the power of art, and it&#039;s great to see that power being wielded in a more effective way lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>Why does it &#8220;tear you up inside&#8221; to hear artists speak out against Bush?  Aren&#8217;t artists also people who feel the need to voice their opinion when things are going wrong?  Don&#8217;t you think that listeners can decide for themselves?  Is it that artists are manipulating the minds of young people, or is it that they are merely validating what most people already feel (that the war, the bailout for the rich while the poor scramble to keep a roof over their heads, the low wages and lack of health care are just fucked up)?</p>
<p>Kids aren&#8217;t stupid.  I know I wasn&#8217;t.  I&#8217;m sure you aren&#8217;t.  And people aren&#8217;t sheep.  Is a laid-off worker unable to talk about the unfairness of this economy simply because they haven&#8217;t had the time to go through the Fiancial Times every day?  No.</p>
<p>In this climate, there are a lot of people with a lot of gut anger against the injustice in this system because they are feeling it personally.  Political art can help validate that anger, take it from being a personal thing into more of a collective experience.  That&#8217;s the power of art, and it&#8217;s great to see that power being wielded in a more effective way lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-anti-bush-band-wagon/#comment-28797</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out &quot;Thorn In Her Side&quot; by the Subdudes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out &#8220;Thorn In Her Side&#8221; by the Subdudes!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-anti-bush-band-wagon/#comment-26021</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I hear about these artists giving anti-Bush speeches during their concerts, it tears me up inside. Young people are so easily led and willing to adopt whatever stance their favorite artists espouse. There are some who come by their opinions through honest research and soul-searching, but those are such a small minority. The rest ape what they hear from the &#039;cool&#039; people onstage and do nothing more than that. I would liken it to getting financial advice from a poor person, or medical help from a CEO, or claiming you&#039;re now a computer expert simply because you&#039;ve seen Tron. 

Then, sadly, some of them vote. 

These people are not political experts, nor do they base their lives on real life. They are about as connected to the rest of us as Halley&#039;s Comet... yeah, they come round so we can see them for a bit, but the rest of the time they&#039;re way off into outer space. But what really hurts me the most is that now Tori Amos, one of my favorite artists who I saw in concert over 10 years ago or more, is no longer listenable to me. Neither is Coldplay, a new favorite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I hear about these artists giving anti-Bush speeches during their concerts, it tears me up inside. Young people are so easily led and willing to adopt whatever stance their favorite artists espouse. There are some who come by their opinions through honest research and soul-searching, but those are such a small minority. The rest ape what they hear from the &#8216;cool&#8217; people onstage and do nothing more than that. I would liken it to getting financial advice from a poor person, or medical help from a CEO, or claiming you&#8217;re now a computer expert simply because you&#8217;ve seen Tron. </p>
<p>Then, sadly, some of them vote. </p>
<p>These people are not political experts, nor do they base their lives on real life. They are about as connected to the rest of us as Halley&#8217;s Comet&#8230; yeah, they come round so we can see them for a bit, but the rest of the time they&#8217;re way off into outer space. But what really hurts me the most is that now Tori Amos, one of my favorite artists who I saw in concert over 10 years ago or more, is no longer listenable to me. Neither is Coldplay, a new favorite.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Billet</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-anti-bush-band-wagon/#comment-1344</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Billet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a bottom line here: the inclusion of anti-Bush, anti-war lyrics in major music widens the room for debate, and gets people thinking about getting active.  Right now there&#039;s a fifteen year old high school student whose brother is in Iraq right now listening to the new NIN.  He may have never thought about politics in his life, but he&#039;s got a gut instinct that the war isn&#039;t right, and he&#039;s probably fearing for his brother&#039;s life.  He&#039;s hearing the new NIN and perhaps for the first time is encouraged to take up the idea of openly opposing Bush and the war.

I am not saying these new artists are the end-all of great musicianship, songwriting or rebellion.  But our starting point has to be how this music is going to affect the ideas of those listening to them.  Right now, despite the anger at Bush, there is little organized opposition past the dead-end road of the Democratic Party.  This music reflects that anger, and the more people hear songs like this and think about it, the more they are forced to think about possible alternatives to this sick system.  

Are we in the middle of a new cultural uprising against the tenants of war, racism and neo-liberalism?  No.  But the ground work is being laid, and these artists are thankfully part of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a bottom line here: the inclusion of anti-Bush, anti-war lyrics in major music widens the room for debate, and gets people thinking about getting active.  Right now there&#8217;s a fifteen year old high school student whose brother is in Iraq right now listening to the new NIN.  He may have never thought about politics in his life, but he&#8217;s got a gut instinct that the war isn&#8217;t right, and he&#8217;s probably fearing for his brother&#8217;s life.  He&#8217;s hearing the new NIN and perhaps for the first time is encouraged to take up the idea of openly opposing Bush and the war.</p>
<p>I am not saying these new artists are the end-all of great musicianship, songwriting or rebellion.  But our starting point has to be how this music is going to affect the ideas of those listening to them.  Right now, despite the anger at Bush, there is little organized opposition past the dead-end road of the Democratic Party.  This music reflects that anger, and the more people hear songs like this and think about it, the more they are forced to think about possible alternatives to this sick system.  </p>
<p>Are we in the middle of a new cultural uprising against the tenants of war, racism and neo-liberalism?  No.  But the ground work is being laid, and these artists are thankfully part of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Otherworld</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-anti-bush-band-wagon/#comment-1301</link>
		<dc:creator>Otherworld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Rage Against the Machine has had a pretty consistant record of delivering strong political messeges.  Artists like Trent Reznor are stepping out of their usual formulas to provoke their audience. If these people can get even a small number of their following to think a little harder then I think they deserve a high five or something. The right words can come from anybody. And a few right words can change a lot.

 People followed a slave out of Egypt; A humble man from Galilee has churches built for him in every corner of the world; And a religion was started around a man who sat for a long time under a tree.  So a counter-culture messege from a rough looking musician should atleast be given some consideration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Rage Against the Machine has had a pretty consistant record of delivering strong political messeges.  Artists like Trent Reznor are stepping out of their usual formulas to provoke their audience. If these people can get even a small number of their following to think a little harder then I think they deserve a high five or something. The right words can come from anybody. And a few right words can change a lot.</p>
<p> People followed a slave out of Egypt; A humble man from Galilee has churches built for him in every corner of the world; And a religion was started around a man who sat for a long time under a tree.  So a counter-culture messege from a rough looking musician should atleast be given some consideration.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-anti-bush-band-wagon/#comment-1271</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Sweetpea,

It&#039;s a good thing though, it&#039;s not like having the Democrats in is going to abolish the problems. They&#039;re about as far left as George Bush is intelligent.

Music allows for an expression and communication of frustrations on a personal level. We need it to cultivate a culture of activism and awareness, well beyond the next elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Sweetpea,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good thing though, it&#8217;s not like having the Democrats in is going to abolish the problems. They&#8217;re about as far left as George Bush is intelligent.</p>
<p>Music allows for an expression and communication of frustrations on a personal level. We need it to cultivate a culture of activism and awareness, well beyond the next elections.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweetpea</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/the-anti-bush-band-wagon/#comment-1250</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweetpea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 06:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Bush&#039;s approval ratings in the single digit zone, these artists are hardly breaking new ground, or even taking risks.  With Republican presidential candidates openly distancing themselves from their lame duck leader, and even die hard wingnuts trying to downplay their former pro-war stance, expressing opposition to the current political establishment at this point in the game is a little redundant, to say the least.  When you have Donald Trump blasting Bush and his idiotic war, a smattering of anti-war lyrics in in pop songs is hardly going to establish an artist as maverick, or a risk taker.  Nothing could be less controversial at this point than Britney Spears dedicating &quot;Toxic&quot; to Karl Rove, or Marily Manson making blood drenched  vampire love to Dick Cheney in his next video.  

If Trent Rezner and company had come out with this kind of material. . . oh say, five years ago, the argument could be made that these performers were brave individuals who put principles over profit, and were willing to risk their careers in order to express genuine opposition to the war.  That&#039;s not to say that we should instantly dismiss this recent spate of politically charged lyrics in pop music out of hand on the grounds that it&#039;s too little, too late.  But nor should we applaud their efforts too vigorously, or too unquestioningly since they come at a time when such content merely reflects the consensus view of the American public across the political divide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Bush&#8217;s approval ratings in the single digit zone, these artists are hardly breaking new ground, or even taking risks.  With Republican presidential candidates openly distancing themselves from their lame duck leader, and even die hard wingnuts trying to downplay their former pro-war stance, expressing opposition to the current political establishment at this point in the game is a little redundant, to say the least.  When you have Donald Trump blasting Bush and his idiotic war, a smattering of anti-war lyrics in in pop songs is hardly going to establish an artist as maverick, or a risk taker.  Nothing could be less controversial at this point than Britney Spears dedicating &#8220;Toxic&#8221; to Karl Rove, or Marily Manson making blood drenched  vampire love to Dick Cheney in his next video.  </p>
<p>If Trent Rezner and company had come out with this kind of material. . . oh say, five years ago, the argument could be made that these performers were brave individuals who put principles over profit, and were willing to risk their careers in order to express genuine opposition to the war.  That&#8217;s not to say that we should instantly dismiss this recent spate of politically charged lyrics in pop music out of hand on the grounds that it&#8217;s too little, too late.  But nor should we applaud their efforts too vigorously, or too unquestioningly since they come at a time when such content merely reflects the consensus view of the American public across the political divide.</p>
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