Comments on: FDA Protects SSRI Makers With Misleading Suicide Warning http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/fda-protects-ssri-makers-with-misleading-suicide-warning/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:37:35 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: anna http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/fda-protects-ssri-makers-with-misleading-suicide-warning/#comment-37070 anna Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:33:08 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/fda-protects-ssri-makers-with-misleading-suicide-warning/#comment-37070 If psychiatrists were concerned about the truth or a medical aspect of their prescriptions, they would not become psychiatrists. What I observed is this: 1. 99 % of the time psychiatrists are attracted to this type of practice to find the context for their own mental problems. Their problems are REAL compared to their patients! Most of the discoveries are made when they are observed or experienced in the "Self" and it is nothing new; except in psychiatry, the focus is on projecting the psychiatrist's self control or lock of self control (that's why so often they have sexual relationships with their patients or commit different kinds of crimes) on their patients! What APA's diagnostic system represents is THE PSYCHOLOGICAL PICTURE OF THEIR OWN MEMBERS! Studying this system will tell you who they are! If you look at psychiatrists from this prospective you will realize that we are taken over by the MAD MAN ARMY- 38,000 plus PSYCHIATRISTS. 2. What they are really interested in is the control of others not the CURE. Brain manipulating substances are produced to THEIR order. The real margin of possible application of such a chemical is so narrow that it would have to be passed to smallest pharmaceutical companies with a very tiny profit to them. What is expending the application is addictive nature of this medication and madness as a effect of its use use. Therefore the current application is mainly to produce illness not to CURE. From a business prospective PSYCHIATRISTS are a DRUG DEALERS working for a Drug Cartel and should fell legally to the same category as street drug dealers. Until this happens people will be getting mad and will be dying as a result of State sponsored Psychiatry. When you realize this you will understand that Psychiatrist know what we know, but their agenda is not from our world. We want peace and calmness they want the thrill of their own mania. Psychiatrists who can see the truth will not survive within the group. They have to become dissidents because their real characters will be assassinated right away. Psychiatry uses political authoritarian methods of neutralizing their opponents and they are a real POLITICAL MOVEMENT, NOT DOCTORS, and they don't want to have anything to do with medicine. They could read the same books as we do if they wanted to. They are after us ( sane people) because of their desire to control and have power, not compassion and mercy, like a doctors should... not to mentioned "Premium non nocere?: Above all, do not harm. " Psychiatrists' collaboration with the pharmaceutical companies is also misinterpreted. Being a business person I know the limitation of the sales script. Psychiatry WANTS to use pharmaceutical companies to create a public illusion so they can depend on other institutions for their own judgment. They really don't depend on the FDA or Pharmaceutical labels any more then the CHURCH does. Why does the CHURCH today recommend psychiatrists for spiritual problems? The same reason: hierarchy of control. Somehow psychiatry got before the CHURCH. So it is not about medicine, it is about control. My question will be: who hired them and who pays them to abuse us with OUR tax payer's money??? If psychiatrists were concerned about the truth or a medical aspect of their prescriptions, they would not become psychiatrists. What I observed is this:
1. 99 % of the time psychiatrists are attracted to this type of practice to find the context for their own mental problems. Their problems are REAL compared to their patients! Most of the discoveries are made when they are observed or experienced in the “Self” and it is nothing new; except in psychiatry, the focus is on projecting the psychiatrist’s self control or lock of self control
(that’s why so often they have sexual relationships with their patients or commit different kinds of crimes) on their patients! What APA’s diagnostic system represents is THE PSYCHOLOGICAL PICTURE OF THEIR OWN MEMBERS!
Studying this system will tell you who they are! If you look at psychiatrists from this prospective you will realize that we are taken over by the MAD MAN ARMY- 38,000 plus PSYCHIATRISTS.
2. What they are really interested in is the control of others not the CURE.
Brain manipulating substances are produced to THEIR order.
The real margin of possible application of such a chemical is so narrow that it would have to be passed to smallest pharmaceutical companies with a very tiny profit to them.
What is expending the application is addictive nature of this medication and madness as a effect
of its use use. Therefore the current application is mainly to produce illness not to CURE.
From a business prospective PSYCHIATRISTS are a DRUG DEALERS working for a Drug Cartel
and should fell legally to the same category as street drug dealers. Until this happens people will be getting mad and will be dying as a result of State sponsored Psychiatry.
When you realize this you will understand that Psychiatrist know what we know, but their agenda is not from our world. We want peace and calmness they want the thrill of their own mania.
Psychiatrists who can see the truth will not survive within the group. They have to become dissidents because their real characters will be assassinated right away. Psychiatry uses political authoritarian methods of neutralizing their opponents and they are a real POLITICAL MOVEMENT, NOT DOCTORS, and they don’t want to have anything to do with medicine. They could read the same books as we do if they wanted to. They are after us ( sane people) because of their desire to control and have power, not compassion and mercy, like a doctors should… not to mentioned “Premium non nocere?: Above all, do not harm. ” Psychiatrists’ collaboration with the pharmaceutical companies is also misinterpreted. Being a business person I know the limitation of the sales script. Psychiatry WANTS to use pharmaceutical companies to create a public illusion so they can depend on other institutions for their own judgment. They really don’t depend on the FDA or Pharmaceutical labels any more then the CHURCH does. Why does the CHURCH today recommend psychiatrists for spiritual problems? The same reason: hierarchy of control. Somehow psychiatry got before the CHURCH. So it is not about medicine, it is about control. My question will be: who hired them and who pays them to abuse us with OUR tax payer’s money???

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]]> By: Chris Davis, MSII http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/fda-protects-ssri-makers-with-misleading-suicide-warning/#comment-972 Chris Davis, MSII Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:27:42 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/fda-protects-ssri-makers-with-misleading-suicide-warning/#comment-972 To Dr. Lieberman: As a Medical Student and as a patient that is on an SSRI. I blame psychiatry, not primary care patients or doctors for this mess. Honestly, how can you expect patients to pay hunderds of dollars per hour to see a psychiatrist? Why should they when someone else can perscribe for less than a third of the price? If we really want medical patients to recieve the proper care we must take cost into consideration. States should follow the current plan in the state of New Mexico that gives psychologist (Ph.D, not M.D. or D.O.) the right to perscribe SSRI's. This would give patients the specialist care that they need while keeping costs down. To Dr. Lieberman:

As a Medical Student and as a patient that is on an SSRI. I blame psychiatry, not primary care patients or doctors for this mess. Honestly, how can you expect patients to pay hunderds of dollars per hour to see a psychiatrist? Why should they when someone else can perscribe for less than a third of the price? If we really want medical patients to recieve the proper care we must take cost into consideration. States should follow the current plan in the state of New Mexico that gives psychologist (Ph.D, not M.D. or D.O.) the right to perscribe SSRI’s. This would give patients the specialist care that they need while keeping costs down.

]]> By: Carole Lieberman, M.D., M.P.H. http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/fda-protects-ssri-makers-with-misleading-suicide-warning/#comment-470 Carole Lieberman, M.D., M.P.H. Tue, 22 May 2007 15:57:20 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/fda-protects-ssri-makers-with-misleading-suicide-warning/#comment-470 As a psychiatrist and NIMH award recipient in public health, I have long studied the problem of deteriorating psychiatric health care in America. The problem is not the antidepressants themselves, but rather who and how they are administered. Too many non-psychiatrists hand out prescriptions for antidepressants and other psychiatric medications like candy, without the years of psychiatry specialization behind them. And too many psychiatrists give out prescriptions, while only seeing patients for brief monthly visits - instead of treating them with intensive psychotherapy along with the medications. It is not a new phenomenon that antidepressants can activate a depressed patient's suicidal thoughts. However, when the patient is being seen in psychotherapy, these can be dealt with appropriately before the patient is in danger. As a psychiatrist and NIMH award recipient in public health, I have long studied the problem of deteriorating psychiatric health care in America. The problem is not the antidepressants themselves, but rather who and how they are administered. Too many non-psychiatrists hand out prescriptions for antidepressants and other psychiatric medications like candy, without the years of psychiatry specialization behind them. And too many psychiatrists give out prescriptions, while only seeing patients for brief monthly visits – instead of treating them with intensive psychotherapy along with the medications. It is not a new phenomenon that antidepressants can activate a depressed patient’s suicidal thoughts. However, when the patient is being seen in psychotherapy, these can be dealt with appropriately before the patient is in danger.

]]> By: Daniel Haszard http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/fda-protects-ssri-makers-with-misleading-suicide-warning/#comment-463 Daniel Haszard Tue, 22 May 2007 12:55:18 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/fda-protects-ssri-makers-with-misleading-suicide-warning/#comment-463 Lilly Zyprexa Lawsuit 8 State Countdown Zyprexa targeted by AG's for Criminal Fraud Utah Latest state to sue Eli Lilly in developing "Viva Zyprexa" Scandal. Side effects to Zyprexa can include high blood sugar levels, acute weight gain and pancreatitis, according to the lawsuit. "Utah has paid millions of dollars for inappropriate and medically unnecessary doses of Zyprexa. As a result, Lilly has been illegally enriched at the expense of the State," the lawsuit said. The state is seeking civil damages and penalties, including $5,000-$10,000 for each prescription that was "not medically necessary." Lilly also faces lawsuits filed by attorneys general of Alaska, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Mexico and West Virginia alleging that it marketed Zyprexa for unapproved uses or hid the risks of weight gain and diabetes. Eli Lilly makes billions on diabetes treatment and also gets $4.2 billion a year in sales of their biggest cash cow Zyprexa which has been scandalized as *causing* diabetes as a major side effect. Not fair! Daniel Haszard www.zyprexa-victims.com (Don't shoot the messengers) Lilly Zyprexa Lawsuit 8 State Countdown

Zyprexa targeted by AG’s for Criminal Fraud

Utah Latest state to sue Eli Lilly in developing “Viva Zyprexa” Scandal.

Side effects to Zyprexa can include high blood sugar levels, acute weight gain and pancreatitis, according to the lawsuit.

“Utah has paid millions of dollars for inappropriate and medically unnecessary doses of Zyprexa. As a result, Lilly has been illegally enriched at the expense of the State,” the lawsuit said.

The state is seeking civil damages and penalties, including $5,000-$10,000 for each prescription that was “not medically necessary.”

Lilly also faces lawsuits filed by attorneys general of Alaska, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Mexico and West Virginia alleging that it marketed Zyprexa for unapproved uses or hid the risks of weight gain and diabetes.

Eli Lilly makes billions on diabetes treatment and also gets $4.2 billion a year in sales of their biggest cash cow Zyprexa which has been scandalized as *causing* diabetes as a major side effect.

Not fair!

Daniel Haszard http://www.zyprexa-victims.com

(Don’t shoot the messengers)

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