Comments on: Derrick Jensen on Saving the Planet http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/derrick-jensen-on-saving-the-planet-%e2%80%9cwe-need-the-industrial-economy-to-stop%e2%80%9d/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Adam http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/derrick-jensen-on-saving-the-planet-%e2%80%9cwe-need-the-industrial-economy-to-stop%e2%80%9d/#comment-12972 Adam Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:13:21 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/derrick-jensen-on-saving-the-planet-%e2%80%9cwe-need-the-industrial-economy-to-stop%e2%80%9d/#comment-12972 As robin shows in response to Kevin, right-wing propaganda is a machine that attempts to sneak a weak, but power-serving, premise past you in order to put focus on the peripheral and off the radical (root) center -- which right-wing tools are programed to protect and defend. As robin shows in response to Kevin, right-wing propaganda is a machine that attempts to sneak a weak, but power-serving, premise past you in order to put focus on the peripheral and off the radical (root) center — which right-wing tools are programed to protect and defend.

]]> By: robin hood http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/derrick-jensen-on-saving-the-planet-%e2%80%9cwe-need-the-industrial-economy-to-stop%e2%80%9d/#comment-11095 robin hood Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:08:29 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/derrick-jensen-on-saving-the-planet-%e2%80%9cwe-need-the-industrial-economy-to-stop%e2%80%9d/#comment-11095 hmmm Kevin, and what was it that allowed the human population to go from incredibly stable for hundreds of thousands of years to exponential growth? hmmm Kevin, and what was it that allowed the human population to go from incredibly stable for hundreds of thousands of years to exponential growth?

]]> By: Kevin Cornwall http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/derrick-jensen-on-saving-the-planet-%e2%80%9cwe-need-the-industrial-economy-to-stop%e2%80%9d/#comment-529 Kevin Cornwall Wed, 23 May 2007 18:05:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/derrick-jensen-on-saving-the-planet-%e2%80%9cwe-need-the-industrial-economy-to-stop%e2%80%9d/#comment-529 Jensen has got the effects right, but he is off on the cause. The problem is not capitalism or patriarchy. We have always had repressive, wasteful and exploitative societies.. .always! The problem is <i>scale</i>. There are simply too many people. When there were fewer, being repressive, wasteful and exploitative didn't endanger life on the planet. Jensen has got the effects right, but he is off on the cause. The problem is not capitalism or patriarchy. We have always had repressive, wasteful and exploitative societies.. .always!

The problem is scale. There are simply too many people. When there were fewer, being repressive, wasteful and exploitative didn’t endanger life on the planet.

]]> By: sushil_yadav http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/derrick-jensen-on-saving-the-planet-%e2%80%9cwe-need-the-industrial-economy-to-stop%e2%80%9d/#comment-476 sushil_yadav Tue, 22 May 2007 17:23:48 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/derrick-jensen-on-saving-the-planet-%e2%80%9cwe-need-the-industrial-economy-to-stop%e2%80%9d/#comment-476 In response to your post on Civilization, Environmental Crisis and "Saving the Planet" I want to post a part from my article which examines the impact of Consumerism and Industrialization on our Minds and Environment. Please read. <b>Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment.</b> The fast-paced, consumerist lifestyle of Industrial Society is causing exponential rise in psychological problems besides destroying the environment. All issues are interlinked. Our Minds cannot be peaceful when attention-spans are down to nanoseconds, microseconds and milliseconds. Our Minds cannot be peaceful if we destroy Nature. <b>The link between Mind and Social / Environmental-Issues.</b> Subject : In a fast society slow emotions become extinct. Subject : A thinking mind cannot feel. Subject : Scientific/ Industrial/ Financial thinking destroys the planet. Subject : Environment can never be saved as long as cities exist. Emotion is what we experience during gaps in our thinking. If there are no gaps there is no emotion. Today people are thinking all the time and are mistaking thought (words/ language) for emotion. When society switches-over from physical work (agriculture) to mental work (scientific/ industrial/ financial/ fast visuals/ fast words ) the speed of thinking keeps on accelerating and the gaps between thinking go on decreasing. There comes a time when there are almost no gaps. People become incapable of experiencing/ tolerating gaps. Emotion ends. Man becomes machine. A society that speeds up mentally experiences every mental slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety. A ( travelling )society that speeds up physically experiences every physical slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety. A society that entertains itself daily experiences every non-entertaining moment as Depression / Anxiety. Fast visuals/ words make slow emotions extinct. Scientific/ Industrial/ Financial thinking destroys emotional circuits. A fast (large) society cannot feel pain / remorse / empathy. A fast (large) society will always be cruel to Animals/ Trees/ Air/ Water/ Land and to Itself. To read the complete article please follow any of these links : <a href="http://www.planetsave.com/ps_mambo/option,com_simpleboard/Itemid,75/func,view/id,68/catid,6/" rel="nofollow">PlanetSave</a> <a href="http://www.freeinfosociety.com/wforum/viewtopic.php?t=3649" rel="nofollow">FreeInfoSociety</a> <a href="http://www.ephilosopher.com/bb-topic-244.html" rel="nofollow">ePhilosopher</a> <a href="http://www.corrupt.org/transcendence/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1167537083" rel="nofollow">Corrupt</a> sushil_yadav In response to your post on Civilization, Environmental Crisis and “Saving the Planet” I want to post a part from my article which examines the impact of Consumerism and Industrialization on our Minds and Environment. Please read.

Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment.

The fast-paced, consumerist lifestyle of Industrial Society is causing exponential rise in psychological problems besides destroying the environment. All issues are interlinked. Our Minds cannot be peaceful when attention-spans are down to nanoseconds, microseconds and milliseconds. Our Minds cannot be peaceful if we destroy Nature.

The link between Mind and Social / Environmental-Issues.

Subject : In a fast society slow emotions become extinct.
Subject : A thinking mind cannot feel.
Subject : Scientific/ Industrial/ Financial thinking destroys the planet.
Subject : Environment can never be saved as long as cities exist.

Emotion is what we experience during gaps in our thinking.

If there are no gaps there is no emotion.

Today people are thinking all the time and are mistaking thought (words/ language) for emotion.

When society switches-over from physical work (agriculture) to mental work (scientific/ industrial/ financial/ fast visuals/ fast words ) the speed of thinking keeps on accelerating and the gaps between thinking go on decreasing.

There comes a time when there are almost no gaps.

People become incapable of experiencing/ tolerating gaps.

Emotion ends.

Man becomes machine.

A society that speeds up mentally experiences every mental slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety.

A ( travelling )society that speeds up physically experiences every physical slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety.

A society that entertains itself daily experiences every non-entertaining moment as Depression / Anxiety.

Fast visuals/ words make slow emotions extinct.

Scientific/ Industrial/ Financial thinking destroys emotional circuits.

A fast (large) society cannot feel pain / remorse / empathy.

A fast (large) society will always be cruel to Animals/ Trees/ Air/ Water/ Land and to Itself.

To read the complete article please follow any of these links :

PlanetSave

FreeInfoSociety

ePhilosopher

Corrupt

sushil_yadav

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