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	<title>Comments on: Maoist Homophobia?</title>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/04/maoist-homophobia/#comment-59991</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion. Note that Marxism has its origins in Christian philosophy, with its strongly anti-homosexual attitudes. Homosexual sex is an unproductive, hedonistic act--sex is for procreation only. Christian-socialist groups, like Canada&#039;s old CCF party, were once very homophobic. However, CONSERVATIVE groups in the U.S. had a gay element. Both J. Edgar Hoover and Joseph McCarthy were gay, along with other figures in the Republican, North-East Ivy League establishment. This makes the Republicans&#039; current relationship with the Religious Right--and contemporary, Western leftists pro-gay attitudes--rather ironic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion. Note that Marxism has its origins in Christian philosophy, with its strongly anti-homosexual attitudes. Homosexual sex is an unproductive, hedonistic act&#8211;sex is for procreation only. Christian-socialist groups, like Canada&#8217;s old CCF party, were once very homophobic. However, CONSERVATIVE groups in the U.S. had a gay element. Both J. Edgar Hoover and Joseph McCarthy were gay, along with other figures in the Republican, North-East Ivy League establishment. This makes the Republicans&#8217; current relationship with the Religious Right&#8211;and contemporary, Western leftists pro-gay attitudes&#8211;rather ironic.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/04/maoist-homophobia/#comment-29189</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, to Emile, I just wanted to mention that accusations of &quot;anti-gay rights&quot; are directed just as much at capitalist governments in the Third World, especially Jamaica and most Caribbean countries. In there, gays and lesbians are murdered or imprisoned if they are outed.

In Iran, the same thing happens. Gays and lesbians are executed if outed to authorities. And that country is dominated by a theocratic right-wing government structure; both the left wing and the liberals are under intense and violent pressure from the government.

Same thing in most countries in Africa (save for South Africa and, maybe, Cape Verde). So this is not an anti-socialist issue; furthermore, it&#039;s not an entirely anti-Third World issue, either, as gay rights and same-sex marriage advocates are in open political combat against the right wing in countries like the United States and the United Kingdom.

So are gay rights advocates anti-socialist? At least some organizations like the socialist parties of Scandinavia and the New People&#039;s Army of the Philippines don&#039;t think so.

http://www.workers.org/world/2005/npa_0224/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, to Emile, I just wanted to mention that accusations of &#8220;anti-gay rights&#8221; are directed just as much at capitalist governments in the Third World, especially Jamaica and most Caribbean countries. In there, gays and lesbians are murdered or imprisoned if they are outed.</p>
<p>In Iran, the same thing happens. Gays and lesbians are executed if outed to authorities. And that country is dominated by a theocratic right-wing government structure; both the left wing and the liberals are under intense and violent pressure from the government.</p>
<p>Same thing in most countries in Africa (save for South Africa and, maybe, Cape Verde). So this is not an anti-socialist issue; furthermore, it&#8217;s not an entirely anti-Third World issue, either, as gay rights and same-sex marriage advocates are in open political combat against the right wing in countries like the United States and the United Kingdom.</p>
<p>So are gay rights advocates anti-socialist? At least some organizations like the socialist parties of Scandinavia and the New People&#8217;s Army of the Philippines don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.workers.org/world/2005/npa_0224/" rel="nofollow">http://www.workers.org/world/2005/npa_0224/</a></p>
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		<title>By: emile</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/04/maoist-homophobia/#comment-7015</link>
		<dc:creator>emile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 06:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is completely false.  I am currently in Nepal, and i have met the &#039;Blue Diamond society&#039; . They are a rich NGO that get money from the west and  publicity from the bbc and other western agencies. Why? To try and slander the Maoists. They should not be taken seriously. There is no persecution of gays in nepal by maoists.  But it needs also to be stated, that for most people in the world and in nepal, the issue of &#039;gay rights&#039; is not a real one. Let me be more clear, for most people in the world, the demand for food, shelter, work etc is far more pressing than &#039;gay rights&#039;.  You may or may not like this fact, but it is simply the case. Gay rights is a non issue for most people in nepal, there are more important things to worry about, such as  the US backing of &#039;contras&#039;. Also, how is it that the issue of &#039;gay rights&#039; is always used against socialist and third world movments? Cuba, Iran, now Nepal etc. This is a fake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is completely false.  I am currently in Nepal, and i have met the &#8216;Blue Diamond society&#8217; . They are a rich NGO that get money from the west and  publicity from the bbc and other western agencies. Why? To try and slander the Maoists. They should not be taken seriously. There is no persecution of gays in nepal by maoists.  But it needs also to be stated, that for most people in the world and in nepal, the issue of &#8216;gay rights&#8217; is not a real one. Let me be more clear, for most people in the world, the demand for food, shelter, work etc is far more pressing than &#8216;gay rights&#8217;.  You may or may not like this fact, but it is simply the case. Gay rights is a non issue for most people in nepal, there are more important things to worry about, such as  the US backing of &#8216;contras&#8217;. Also, how is it that the issue of &#8216;gay rights&#8217; is always used against socialist and third world movments? Cuba, Iran, now Nepal etc. This is a fake.</p>
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		<title>By: Nossie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/04/maoist-homophobia/#comment-3719</link>
		<dc:creator>Nossie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 04:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mao was a mass murderer on a worse scale than Hitler. He advocated deadly purges, lethal gulags and forced labor, fatal deportations, man-made famines, extrajudicial executions, show trials, and genocide. That we can still take socialism seriously is the proof many are still trying to sell our individual freedom to  a bunch of dictators. 

The history of socialism in Europe is worse than the history of fascism. It lasted longer and killed more people. Both systems crush individuality and destroy the human mind and creativity. Why the hell do you think that the richest culture and most advanced technology is the product of capitalist democracies? China is now finally closer to sexual liberation that it ever was. What has communism done for these people but destroy their bodies and minds in ways we can hardly imagine?

It truly makes me angry when irresponsible intellectuals play delirious ideological games with my life. Queers have had few moments of relative visibility in history and almost all have been linked with regions/nations with a democratic government and a commerce based/capitalist economy. Those anal retentive puritan socialist assholes want to use my genitals for compulsive reproduction. Like the innocent child scribbling twisted swastika like peace signs on the floor, socialism is as murderous as heteronormative  gets. Even fascism allows for some homoeroticism.

I may have hate crimes under a democratic capitalist society, but at least I&#039;m not down in my knees trying to tell the commies why I give pinkos a bad name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mao was a mass murderer on a worse scale than Hitler. He advocated deadly purges, lethal gulags and forced labor, fatal deportations, man-made famines, extrajudicial executions, show trials, and genocide. That we can still take socialism seriously is the proof many are still trying to sell our individual freedom to  a bunch of dictators. </p>
<p>The history of socialism in Europe is worse than the history of fascism. It lasted longer and killed more people. Both systems crush individuality and destroy the human mind and creativity. Why the hell do you think that the richest culture and most advanced technology is the product of capitalist democracies? China is now finally closer to sexual liberation that it ever was. What has communism done for these people but destroy their bodies and minds in ways we can hardly imagine?</p>
<p>It truly makes me angry when irresponsible intellectuals play delirious ideological games with my life. Queers have had few moments of relative visibility in history and almost all have been linked with regions/nations with a democratic government and a commerce based/capitalist economy. Those anal retentive puritan socialist assholes want to use my genitals for compulsive reproduction. Like the innocent child scribbling twisted swastika like peace signs on the floor, socialism is as murderous as heteronormative  gets. Even fascism allows for some homoeroticism.</p>
<p>I may have hate crimes under a democratic capitalist society, but at least I&#8217;m not down in my knees trying to tell the commies why I give pinkos a bad name.</p>
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		<title>By: c.m.</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2007/04/maoist-homophobia/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>c.m.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 22:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See this, which if true, it good news for LGBT people in Nepal:

http://www.pslweb.org/site/News2?JServSessionIdr008=ad1nse9it1.app7b&amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;id=5571&amp;news_iv_ctrl=1242</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See this, which if true, it good news for LGBT people in Nepal:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pslweb.org/site/News2?JServSessionIdr008=ad1nse9it1.app7b&amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;id=5571&amp;news_iv_ctrl=1242" rel="nofollow">http://www.pslweb.org/site/News2?JServSessionIdr008=ad1nse9it1.app7b&amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;id=5571&amp;news_iv_ctrl=1242</a></p>
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